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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,973,368 Views)
Eni
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I hate gay characters reminding me how gay they are as much as I hate dudebro characters reminding me how straight they are.
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UpInMahBubble
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I want gay characters to remind everyone of how gay they are so everyone still not fully accepting they're gay can learn to love themselves.

How can it be Deadlift if he's dead old man? :tora:
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Angelic Linca
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Sgt. Johnson was gay in Halo games since he knew what the ladies liked.
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OMM: Cannot wait till this vid is uploaded! It took long enough!!
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Fräulein
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orc amber smith is the best gay character

he's so nice
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Angelic Linca
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orc amber smith is the best gay character

he's so nice
Best weapons smith.
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I don't see the big deal about it since most games don't deal with this stuff anyway. A character's sexuality won't change how they kill stuff but that's just me. I just want better character designs. The barbie and ken look has gotten old.

Deadlift forever salty. :asia:
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Mr. Kamikaze
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I would rather a gay character just never mention or allude to how gay they are in the same way straight characters never have to mention how straight they are.

Just let them be what they are and be okay with it. Or don't be okay with it, that's okay, too.
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Angelic Linca
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Marcus Fenix x Dominic Santiago

Now surprised at it. They had to use that Dom's wife was captured by Locust to play it down.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:01 am
the same way straight characters never have to mention how straight they are
:XD Good one.
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The reason why writers feel the need to explicitly state a character sexuality, especially in cases where the characters identify as anything other than straight, is because they don't want the character to perceived as straight since straight is often seen is as the expected thing, this called 'heteronormativity', or the perception that heterosexuality is the default/is normal.

When you have characters who are gay, lesbian, or any other sexual minority, I feel like it's more important to actually... you know, display that, hopefully with no distasteful tropes or anything. But really just for the representation, it's great for everyone to see something of themselves in a game, including sexuality.

I feel like I've stated the representation thing... like 10 times.
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:goodpost:
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I also hate it when writers as a whole don't mention a character's sexuality, and then later on in a panel they're just like "btw _____ is gay". I feel like that is the biggest cop out in the world.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Of course there needs to be mention that the character is gay or not. It's kinda important to their character. But it doesn't need to constantly be brought up, as if people somehow forgot.

There are a lot of ell written gay characters whose sexuality have NOTHING to do with them as a character. They are just people who happen to also be gay, which is what I prefer.

This isn't just a sexuality thing, it happens with race and religion as well, all the time.

Batwoman, for example, is a lesbian. But it's not that important to her character, she is a vigilante, an army brat, and former soldier, who happens to also have a girlfriend. The reader isn't constantly being reminded how she is a lesbian and does lesbian things. We know what she is, now go live a normal life (or as normal as a vigilante in a bat costume can get...)
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ReVeluv

I got a photo booked with Mark Gatiss at Sherlocked!
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Mmn, I can understand why that's upsetting, but I personally never really had a problem with it until people explained why it's bad, so I can get why people would be okay with it.

If that makes sense.
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DMRevolution
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Won't stop people's headcanons. :asia:
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Mr. Kamikaze
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It's just at a certain point, the writer is pushing so hard to remind you said character is gay that that is all that character becomes. Which isn't really doing anyone any favors...

Constantine is another good one. His sexuality is evidently rather ambiguous with people unsure if he's actually gay or just bisexual. Because ultimately, it doesn't matter.

At least that's how he used to be. When he was integrated into the DCU after New 52, he's kinda all kinds of obsessed with Zatanna now.
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Who wouldn't be obsessed with Zatanna though?
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Mr. Kamikaze
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that's a good point. She's pretty amazing.
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OMM: Video has finished uploading and its....oh god awful quality and loads slowly!
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Dear God I wish I could articulate myself as well as I can write my characters articulating themselves.
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How is the character in question flaunting his sexuality? Flirting? That's a really normal thing to do if you find someone attractive. Is he constantly screaming "I'M GAYYYYYYYY" in an over-the-top flamboyant voice? That I could get.

And yes, sexuality does have something to do with their character. Not their entire character, but it is part of it. It effects how they interact with others, romantically and such.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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trying to watch LDZ's time travel but the sound of chalk on a chalk board gives me shivers. So terrible :kurokan:
I just don't like being reminded a character is gay or religious or not white every single time in stupid ways like "oh btw, I like dudes" or "lol slavery joke". Not because I don't like gay characters...I'm probably the most tolerant person you'd ever meet, even though it doesn't seem that way. I just feels it detracts from the story because writer wants to remind everyone "hey look, i'm so diverse"...like I don't give a ****. Make all your characters gay black atheists, I don't care. Just give me a good story and a well written character.

I guess it ultimately comes down to opinion. But that's all I want out of a story.
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:33 am.
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Ae too boss. I'm rather neutral about it in general. I just care about good characters. I just don't see why it's an issue in a game where this stuff isn't brought up. I said game cause it's what I was talking about. :listen:

I have a hard time grasping the hate in general since I don't care if a person is gay or straight. I don't even get why it's even an issue.
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