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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,973,236 Views)
Mr. Kamikaze
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Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:40 pm
Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:39 pm
I keep wanting to play a new Pokemon, but then...never do.

I want mow Fire Emblem AND Mewtwo. I can have both!
I'll take new FE away from you, you can keep cozy with Mewtwo.
The fact Owain isn't going to be in new FE makes that game already less great than Awakening.
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Fräulein
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I like how it was actually nice out today, but supposed to be cold and raining the rest of the week. :tora:
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Angelic Linca
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No rain is always a good thing.
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Eni
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:39 pm
I keep wanting to play a new Pokemon, but then...never do.

I want mow Fire Emblem AND Mewtwo. I can have both!
I'll take new FE away from you, you can keep cozy with Mewtwo.
The fact Owain isn't going to be in new FE makes that game already less great than Awakening.
Don't remind me.
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Rance
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Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:40 pm
I'm not going to continue this.

Just going to say, that I personally very much take offense to it. So... you know, yeah.....
Would you take offense at Koei giving Liu Bei a tanner, darker complexion?
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~Spirited Bellflower~
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Just want to say I've met many African-American people whose skin tones actually are ten shades lighter than Tiana's :o If Disney released a picture of her with her skin ten shades darker, no one would care. That's because of the stereotyping people have in relation to certain races, which is equally wrong as assuming a certain race ought to have lighter skin. Skin color is (or rather, can be viewed as) a part of race, it doesn't define it.

Colorism is about hating a skin color, which, while as bad as racism, isn't the exact same thing at all. Hating a skin color isn't the same as hating a race. People bleach their skin in all parts of the world; it can be because they wish to emulate a certain race, but also because in certain mindsets and certain cultures, lighter skin is considered more attractive. It can have absolutely nothing to do with discriminated against race or ethnicity :o

In any case, people need to understand that color is in no way race-exclusive :asia:

I don't find the picture of Zhu Rong racist, it's just meant to be funny, the way Dian Wei was with hair and Wei Yan was as a girl. They just tried to swap her most defining characteristic, like Dian Wei and his baldness. She sure is a lot less attractive this way, though :asia: Still attractive, but less attractive.

EDIT: Never mind, I'm late to the party and EYS pretty much said most of what I was typing out :XD
Edited by ~Spirited Bellflower~, Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:45 pm.
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I don't find her less attractive, I find her just as attractive. I always thought her most defining trait was her lack of clothing, though, not her skin color. Zhurong wearing a lot of clothes would probably not been as fun, though...
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Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:43 pm
I don't find the picture of Zhu Rong racist, it's just meant to be funny, the way Dian Wei was with hair and Wei Yan was as a girl. They just tried to swap her most defining characteristic, like Dian Wei and his baldness. She sure is a lot less attractive this way, though :asia:
I hope that regardless of our reasons, we can all agree it was an awful April Fool's joke. :asia:
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Eni
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:40 pm
Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:39 pm
I keep wanting to play a new Pokemon, but then...never do.

I want mow Fire Emblem AND Mewtwo. I can have both!
I'll take new FE away from you, you can keep cozy with Mewtwo.
The fact Owain isn't going to be in new FE makes that game already less great than Awakening.
Don't remind me.
We can only hope any of the new people can come close to his bestness.
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Birtkowski
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What?
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Angelic Linca
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May she rest in peace.
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~Spirited Bellflower~
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Eni
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:45 pm
~Spirited Bellflower~
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:43 pm
I don't find the picture of Zhu Rong racist, it's just meant to be funny, the way Dian Wei was with hair and Wei Yan was as a girl. They just tried to swap her most defining characteristic, like Dian Wei and his baldness. She sure is a lot less attractive this way, though :asia:
I hope that regardless of our reasons, we can all agree it was an awful April Fool's joke. :asia:
Yes, I don't seem to recall laughing at it at all :asia:

Full-head of hair Dian Wei, however, was golden :hehe:
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Eni
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I do find her normal skin tone attractive.

Lack of clothing just doesn't really cut it everytime. DW7 Lianshi is an example for me.
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Eni
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:42 pm
Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:41 pm
Eni
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:40 pm
Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:39 pm
I keep wanting to play a new Pokemon, but then...never do.

I want mow Fire Emblem AND Mewtwo. I can have both!
I'll take new FE away from you, you can keep cozy with Mewtwo.
The fact Owain isn't going to be in new FE makes that game already less great than Awakening.
Don't remind me.
We can only hope any of the new people can come close to his bestness.
Perhaps we'll be graced with someone one bit as awesome as Owain is.
Edited by Eni, Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:47 pm.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Koei just doesn't go all out with their April Fools jokes. Taking a character into photoshop and changing them up isn't really an April Fools thing...but it's at least not mean spirited like other people would do, so that's fine.

Wei Yan as a girl is still the best, though.
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Rance
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I agree mostly with what Spirited Bellflower said above, with the caveat that I do think there is a major problem with the way society defines beauty. It is kind of problematic to me that a society would highly encourage people to bleach their skin or straighten their hair. I think these are problems that individuals who do not fit a highly subjective standard of beauty often face. Discrimination based on skin color is prevalent as well.

HOWEVER: None of these things have anything to do with the skin color of a fictional video game character whatsoever. The articles you posted talk about discrimination in employment depending on skin color. They are red herrings when it comes to whether or not lightening the skin color of a fictional video game character is "racist."

As Spirited Bellflower pointed out above, it definitely isn't racist. It is, however, a very terrible joke and lame design on Koei's part.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:44 pm
I don't find her less attractive, I find her just as attractive. I always thought her most defining trait was her lack of clothing, though, not her skin color. Zhurong wearing a lot of clothes would probably not been as fun, though...
The thing is, a lot of the female cast has lack of clothing now. :XD DW8 Diaochan immediately comes to mind, I think she's wearing even less clothing than Zhu Rong now.

Her darker skin is what sets her apart, along with her tribal tattoos perhaps; probably why they removed those as well (if I remember correctly) :P
Edited by ~Spirited Bellflower~, Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:51 pm.
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Eni
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Girl Wei Yan was cute.
Actually something funny came out of that Zhurong picture. People on twitter going OMG DW9 ZHURONG SO GOOD.

I mean come on now...
Edited by Eni, Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:50 pm.
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Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:49 pm
Girl Wei Yan was cute.
Actually something funny came out of that Zhurong picture. People on twitter going OMG DW9 ZHURONG SO GOOD.

I mean come on now...
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Wed Apr 1, 2015 10:49 pm
I do think there is a major problem with the way society defines beauty. It is very problematic to me that a society would highly encourage people to bleach their skin or straighten their hair. I think these are problems that individuals who do not fit a highly subjective standard of beauty often face. Discrimination based on skin color is prevalent as well.
Just want to clarify that I completely agree with this (as I'm sure most people would) :P
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Rance
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Screw it, I'll just make a new topic about this April Fool's Day Joke in the Koei Heroes section. Does anybody have a direct link to where Koei posted this "joke?"
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~Spirited Bellflower~
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I really don't think that's necessary, EYS :XD

It's just going to turn into another race/color debate, which would be seriously off-topic for both the thread and subforum :ph43r:

The debates and discussions thread would be more appropriate for that, but there are already like topics for that discussion.

If the discussion and topic subject stays centered only on people's opinions of Zhu Rong's picture, that would be fine, but I have a feeling that won't be the case. Honda-san gets the final say, though, of course :P
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I think Koei posted it on their facebook
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I don't have any motivation today :kurokan: maybe tomorrow
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Screams internally where the frick is the Nintendo Direct stream
Oh bull**** it just started.
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i think i little someone should get a ps4 ASAP because borderland is boring alone :nope:
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