RWB

Sep 29 2009, 11:22 AM

As in making Tadakatsu own Keiji in a cutscene.

ShojoS

Oct 18 2009, 08:03 AM

By the way, in SW2 Tadakatsu was a useless ally for me, always struggling and asking for help, then when you leave him for two seconds he starts to struggle again.

Hanzo_The_Scorpion

Oct 18 2009, 02:34 PM

ShojoS

Oct 18 2009, 08:03 AM

By the way, in SW2 Tadakatsu was a useless ally for me, always struggling and asking for help, then when you leave him for two seconds he starts to struggle again.

I Totally Disagree On That
Even If Tadakatsu Always Struggling In The Game And Asking For Help
There's No Need To Help Him Bcuz I Always Leave Him Struggling And When I Look On His Health Bar He Will Be Not Hurt Too Much

ShojoS

Oct 18 2009, 06:34 PM

He shouldn't even be struggling in the first place tbh, if he's supposed to be the "Lu Bu of SW", Lu Bu only struggles like once in a battle if he's being swarmed, Tadakatsu struggles like 15 times and then when I find him he's fighting like 2 peasants.

Lord Manshoon

Oct 19 2009, 12:13 AM

ShojoS

Oct 18 2009, 06:34 PM

He shouldn't even be struggling in the first place tbh, if he's supposed to be the "Lu Bu of SW", Lu Bu only struggles like once in a battle if he's being swarmed, Tadakatsu struggles like 15 times and then when I find him he's fighting like 2 peasants.

Well, in all fairness, all the officers have the tendency to panic from time to time, even if the threat is a peon or two with pointy sticks shooting them mean glances from ten feet away. It's just a poor AI set-up that for some reason didn't crop up as much in DW, especially DW6, where your allied generals will steamroll the entire enemy army if you give them an opening. Tadakatsu never really seems to struggle in the battles I fight, so it's really a YMMV situation.

SJFaith

Nov 9 2009, 10:50 PM

In SW3 it'll definately be Tadakatsu i mean if they can make him into a walking tank in Sengoku Basara 3 he's gotta be top dog in this too

takahan

Nov 12 2009, 06:49 AM

I will vote for Honda Tadakatsu.
Personally I feel he is nemisis of Lu Bu,
Someone who is of equal strength and power, but yet of different personalities.

As for Kenji,
He is just a Lu Bu's wannabe.
He is nearly as strong as Lu bu but yet still slightly weaker.

In SW1 since there is no Honda, without challenges the title goes to the wannabe.
But after they introduce Honda , I think every realise that Honda is the most powerful and feared warrior that can match Lu Bu's strength in every way.

takahan

Nov 12 2009, 06:49 AM

I will vote for Honda Tadakatsu.
Personally I feel he is nemisis of Lu Bu,
Someone who is of equal strength and power, but yet of different personalities.

As for Kenji,
He is just a Lu Bu's wannabe.
He is nearly as strong as Lu bu but yet still slightly weaker.

In SW1 since there is no Honda, without challenges the title goes to the wannabe.
But after they introduce Honda , I think every realise that Honda is the most powerful and feared warrior that can match Lu Bu's strength in every way.

Sanada

 

Tadakatsu can match Lu Bu's strength, defensivly. In SW2, Keiji gets more attack, and Tadakatsu more defence of the two, making Keiji the more offensive and Tadakatsu the more defensive.
Personally, I'd say the more offensive is the more Lu Bu like, and the fact he has stuck being the one with the best unique horse in the game (much like another offensive warrior in a certain other game ) I'm still sticking that Keiji was the Lu Bu in the past.

As far as SW3 goes though, I'm unsure if this will stick. His new look certainly does have something Lu Bu-ish about it though, but Tadakatsu's bull horns also suggest he may be a bit more attack based as well. We'll just have to wait and see.
I can see Muneshige being up there in the powerful aura-ish state quite often, however I somehow doubt he'll match up to those two.

Fuurinkazen

Nov 8 2009, 12:43 PM

Equally you could say Keiji is because he has his own horse - I hope SW3 has a Theme for Keiji. Muneshige was compared by Hideyoshi to being a Tadakatsu - but for final proof:

Take One bonkers serpent king:

Then Warp China & Japan Together...

And watch the cutscene!

Tadakatsu vs Lu Bu!

And if you leave on the SW stage were Tadakastu shows up on Warriors Orochi - Tadakatsu will beat Lu Bu without needing ANY assistance.

I think that says everything...

Cerebral Assassin

Nov 13 2009, 05:44 PM

Well, it is silly to compare Keiji and Lu Bu just because they are big and have horses. Lu Bu shares Red Hare with Guan Yu, also.

On the other note, Tadakatsu actually has his horse in the game. Ink Stone is the other name of Three Kingdoms Black/Dynasty Black, the horse he rode at Sekigahara.

RWB

Nov 13 2009, 07:10 AM

Sanada

 

Tadakatsu can match Lu Bu's strength, defensivly. In SW2, Keiji gets more attack, and Tadakatsu more defence of the two, making Keiji the more offensive and Tadakatsu the more defensive.
Personally, I'd say the more offensive is the more Lu Bu like, and the fact he has stuck being the one with the best unique horse in the game (much like another offensive warrior in a certain other game ) I'm still sticking that Keiji was the Lu Bu in the past.

As far as SW3 goes though, I'm unsure if this will stick. His new look certainly does have something Lu Bu-ish about it though, but Tadakatsu's bull horns also suggest he may be a bit more attack based as well. We'll just have to wait and see.
I can see Muneshige being up there in the powerful aura-ish state quite often, however I somehow doubt he'll match up to those two.

WRONG.

Starting Statistics SW2
Keiji vs Tadakatsu
Life 128 128 EQUAL
Musou 82 82 EQUAL
Attack 95 96 Tadakatsu wins(+1)
Defense 95 96 Tadakatsu wins(+1)
Ride 95 94 Keiji wins(+1)
Speed 94 90 Keiji wins(+4)
Dex 86 90 Tadakatsu wins(+4)
Luck 93 93 EQUAL

Tadakatsu wins total stats by 1.

Final statistics SW2
Keiji vs Tadakatsu
Life 317 317 EQUAL
Musou 246 246 EQUAL
Attack 198 200 Tadakatsu wins(+2)
Defense 198 200 Tadakatsu wins(+2)
Ride 185 184 Keiji wins(+1)
Speed 154 150 Keiji wins(+4)
Dex 146 150 Tadakatsu wins(+4)
Luck 190 189 Keiji wins(+1)

Tadakatsu wins total stats by 2. So he increased his lead. XD



But as you can see, Tadakatsu have the maximum amount of offensive power AND defensive power.

Keiji is matched by Kenshin in offensive power(well, before you count the weapon), and by Shingen in defensive power.

Tadakatsu has the highest Max HP(shared by Keiji and Shingen), and NO ONE but him has 200 attack and defense.