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Assassin's Creed 2
Topic Started: Tue Apr 7, 2009 4:21 am (3,010 Views)
SmitanSaxon
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:14 pm
Whats the point on having Desmond look like his ancestors from hundreds or years ago, in reality that wiould be impossivle because of DNA makeup Desmond will look like the mx of his parents not Ezio, Altair etc cos in reality that would be impossible
Its probably to show a connection between Desmond and his ancestors. Although...

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Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:13 pm
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I don't find any of the game dull, it can be slow paced but you're on such a journey with the characters. It can be hugely entertaining just to look around in the game sometimes and see the scenery with the graphics and stuff, like I said, everything you do is really felt. I really don't find it boring.

And too just add, for gods sake will people stop thinking the last game will be Japan, because It won't. Each game shows a decendant of Desmond right, so how the hell would bloody Japanese bloodline gotten into him, when each look alike appears to have some facial recognition to him. Does he have a Japanese face, I don't think sooo :lol: .
Of all the arguements against the concept of AC3 in feudal Japan, "his face not looking Asian" is one of the weakest arguements. The ancestor's face can be easily tweaked to suit the culture, and Altair doesn't exactly look Middle Eastern at all compared to the others. And Desmond's all-American face doesn't mean jack, because he could still have some Japanese blood, just so little that it doesn't show. And it only strengthens Desmond's character, as the member of a long bloodline of assassins spanning many eras and cultures but all focused on a single goal.
He looked like Altair AND Ezio, and trust me, this aint no Asian face (is Japan Asia, I dunno :lol: ) . Trust me, there will not be an Assassins Creed in Japan, and with the Assassins clothes all looking similiar, they just don't remotely look Japanese potentially even. Trust me, Japan is not gonna happen, plus, it's predictable. I'd even go far enough to say ACIII won't be in Japan 100%.
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I don't really see the reason for the 100% it won't be in Japan.. I dunno about you but when I hear "Assassin" I think Japan. I think it has a high chance of being there, I know that being AC II came out, there were rumors that the next AC will feature the Ming dynasty in China and people didn't think of it that way, besides, it still can be a female assassin and doesn't have to look a lot like Desmond anyways.Both Altair and Ezio aren't exactly copies of Desmond in my eyes anyways.
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:00 pm
I don't really see the reason for the 100% it won't be in Japan.. I dunno about you but when I hear "Assassin" I think Japan. I think it has a high chance of being there, I know that being AC II came out, there were rumors that the next AC will feature the Ming dynasty in China and people didn't think of it that way, besides, it still can be a female assassin and doesn't have to look a lot like Desmond anyways.Both Altair and Ezio aren't exactly copies of Desmond in my eyes anyways.
Exactly, and I don't think Ubisoft would really want predictability in their very successful franchise. It's done rather well, and to give the game a complete different feel of Japan wouldn't work, you have to think would it work in terms or production. I doubt it would be a girl because the movement and facial characteristics are essential to the game, that is why movement wasn't re-created for the character Ezio, he moves exactly like both Altair AND Desmond, it's entirely the point. Same push, same walk, same run, same fricken roll, that Japanese lady will be very masculine my friend :lol: .

The only way Japan would work is if one of his decendants travelled to Japan and became an Assassin over there. He aint being all Ninja like Assassin, telling you now.
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I don't find any of the game dull, it can be slow paced but you're on such a journey with the characters. It can be hugely entertaining just to look around in the game sometimes and see the scenery with the graphics and stuff, like I said, everything you do is really felt. I really don't find it boring.

And too just add, for gods sake will people stop thinking the last game will be Japan, because It won't. Each game shows a decendant of Desmond right, so how the hell would bloody Japanese bloodline gotten into him, when each look alike appears to have some facial recognition to him. Does he have a Japanese face, I don't think sooo :lol: .
Of all the arguements against the concept of AC3 in feudal Japan, "his face not looking Asian" is one of the weakest arguements. The ancestor's face can be easily tweaked to suit the culture, and Altair doesn't exactly look Middle Eastern at all compared to the others. And Desmond's all-American face doesn't mean jack, because he could still have some Japanese blood, just so little that it doesn't show. And it only strengthens Desmond's character, as the member of a long bloodline of assassins spanning many eras and cultures but all focused on a single goal.
He looked like Altair AND Ezio, and trust me, this aint no Asian face (is Japan Asia, I dunno :lol: ) . Trust me, there will not be an Assassins Creed in Japan, and with the Assassins clothes all looking similiar, they just don't remotely look Japanese potentially even. Trust me, Japan is not gonna happen, plus, it's predictable. I'd even go far enough to say ACIII won't be in Japan 100%.
Look man, I really don't want to make this a big deal. All I'm trying to say is that the "Desmond/Altair/Ezio don't look Asian lololol" arguement is weak and unsupported, and to denounce the possiblity of AC3 taking place in Japan using said arguement is insane. But I digress. As long as AC3 is good, I could care less about whether or not Japan is involved. -_-

@SmitanSaxon: I agree; the only strong reason that Altair and Ezio look like Desmond is to show their shared bloodline, especially since Desmond is the main character. However, your theory regarding what's on the Codex does sound somewhat possible, given the power the Apples possess. Another theory I have is that maybe the Animus is purposefully making Desmond's ancestors look like him to establish the ancestor he's observing. :wacko:
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Look man, I really don't want to make this a big deal. All I'm trying to say is that the "Desmond/Altair/Ezio don't look Asian lololol" arguement is weak and unsupported, and to denounce the possiblity of AC3 taking place in Japan using said arguement is insane. But I digress. As long as AC3 is good, I could care less about whether or not Japan is involved. -_-

@SmitanSaxon: I agree; the only strong reason that Altair and Ezio look like Desmond is to show their shared bloodline, especially since Desmond is the main character. However, your theory regarding what's on the Codex does sound somewhat possible, given the power the Apples possess. Another theory I have is that maybe the Animus is purposefully making Desmond's ancestors look like him to establish the ancestor he's observing. :wacko:
You don't think I'm arguing do you :huh: , 'cause I'm not, I'm just quite simply saying I 'personally' don't think it will happen, and you gotta see the reason why it can also, well, not happen. I've stated other reasons than his face :huh: . The way you started your reply made it seem like I'm gettin all pissed. And me too, so long as they make it work, I couldn't care less. If it's involved for the sake of it, then I'll be angry. But if it works, like I know anything they do will be anyway, then I'm happy :) .
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The only way Japan would work is if one of his decendants travelled to Japan and became an Assassinover there. He aint being all Ninja like Assassin, telling you now.
That is the same explanation I have thought of with the Japanese setting. However the problem is the timeline. Ezio's final assassination took place in 1499. The Europeans didn't arrive in Japan until the mid-1500s. And only a few decades later was Japan isolated by the Tokugawa. So unless one of Ezio's children or grandchildren were able to get to Portugual, because they had the most dealings with the Japanese, then for some reason sail to Japan and get caught up in a plot involving the Piece of Eden. Also they probably wouldn't be trained by an Assassin over there, Ezio would most likely do it for them. Thats just my opinion, far-feched thought it is but so is Desmond having a Japanese ancestor.
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tbh i'd say that in AC3 it would just be about Desmond himself, may seem a bit basic idea but with different things happening in ac2 it seems likely to me

i do like the theories that people are coming up with though ^_^

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There are lots of games coming soon and I dont want to spend money on the DLC, so only way I am getting the first one is if someone can confirm that you can kick a guard on the flying part and it will unlock a trophy. *looks at LDZ* :whistle: you be my patsy, yes?
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:36 pm
tbh i'd say that in AC3 it would just be about Desmond himself, may seem a bit basic idea but with the whole truth and ezio in the tomb at the end sort of hints that desmonds training may be complete

i do like the theories that people are coming up with though ^_^
Dude :realangry: , got halfway down your post and had to stop, please put that stuff in a SPOILER tag please, I said this to you before in the Dissidia section. Thanks ;) .
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:36 pm
tbh i'd say that in AC3 it would just be about Desmond himself, may seem a bit basic idea but with the whole truth and ezio in the tomb at the end sort of hints that desmonds training may be complete

i do like the theories that people are coming up with though ^_^
Dude :realangry: , got halfway down your post and had to stop, please put that stuff in a SPOILER tag please, I said this to you before in the Dissidia section. Thanks ;) .
changed >_> despite there hardly being any spoiler but nm ^_^

anyway, the second one was awesome, i hope whatever they do for the third game will be great.

With different things being mentioned i can't see it being set in japan but it may be possible if like others have said, a decendent of ezio went there. Would be some interesting weapons if it was ^_^

however about the faces all looking the same
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"The Battle of Forli is built out of existing Assassin's Creed II components: that means no new locations, enemies, or weapons. There aren't even new achievements or trophies to earn. It does open a "special mission," however, that grants you access to Da Vinci's flying machine whenever you like. This gives you a second chance at getting that achievement/trophy for kicking a guard while flying. But really, we shouldn't have to pay four bucks to take another crack at an achievement."

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/106/1063749p1.html
from IGN's review of the DLC. :/ and that is basically the only reason I want to buy it. But he is kind of right, 4 bucks just for another chance at the trophy. I suppose there still is the mission though.
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tbh i'd say that in AC3 it would just be about Desmond himself, may seem a bit basic idea but with different things happening in ac2 it seems likely to me

i do like the theories that people are coming up with though ^_^

I'd have to agree that seems likely
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deffianatly sanada - if they have those sorts of things within ac3 it would make it really interesting ^_^
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but anyway what realy kills the game is not bieng able to replay sequences :realangry: and not only that uk gamers got charged more on dlc U.S paid £2.40 worth and we paid £3.16 this is ridiculous :realangry:
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Well, I downloaded the Battle of Forli. Just about an hour of gameplay for 4 bucks, not exactly worth it for something that could have been part of the game in the first place, but I got the platinum trophy now, so Im happy about that :whistle:

With PSN making you add a minimum amount of funds of 5 dollars, in reality this dlc costs me that, since I dont have anything really to do with 1 dollar on the store.
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Well, I downloaded the Battle of Forli. Just about an hour of gameplay for 4 bucks, not exactly worth it for something that could have been part of the game in the first place, but I got the platinum trophy now, so Im happy about that :whistle:

With PSN making you add a minimum amount of funds of 5 dollars, in reality this dlc costs me that, since I dont have anything really to do with 1 dollar on the store.
Yeah, I haven't downloaded it yet, but I heard the content wasn't much. I think one of the things added was that you could now use the Flying Machine whenever you wanted to in Romagna, right? Or did I read that wrong?
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Well, I downloaded the Battle of Forli. Just about an hour of gameplay for 4 bucks, not exactly worth it for something that could have been part of the game in the first place, but I got the platinum trophy now, so Im happy about that :whistle:

With PSN making you add a minimum amount of funds of 5 dollars, in reality this dlc costs me that, since I dont have anything really to do with 1 dollar on the store.
Yeah, I haven't downloaded it yet, but I heard the content wasn't much. I think one of the things added was that you could now use the Flying Machine whenever you wanted to in Romagna, right? Or did I read that wrong?
No, its true. Its in the upper, right far tower. It gives you another chance at getting the trophy/achievement for kicking a guard while using it. Its the only one that is missable in the story. It happened to me, so I was able to get platinum today because of it ^_^
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Desmnds ancestors don;t have to look like him, like there is a big difference form Altair and Ezio, but the one thing they all have in common is the scar in the right cheek, so if the next one is in japan and turns out to be a female or male just have the scar so it roots back to Desmonds ancestry.

I am not going to download the DLC even though i need the achievment ans they look fun, i just cba and sicne it costs koney which is worse :/ so doubt ill ever get the achievement, but im not really bothered about achievements :/ just paying the game how i like is fine for me
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i mentioned above a theory about why the look the same in a spoiler tag, involves the animus but if interested have a read. What Smitansaxon wrote about the info is correct but i'm not 100% sure whether it is the main reason

although we'll never know until it is explained in the game or by producers xD

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thanks for the reply SmitanSaxon, that clears a few things up ^_^

be interesting to see where they go with AC3

at the moment i'm still debating on

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thanks for the reply SmitanSaxon, that clears a few things up ^_^

be interesting to see where they go with AC3

at the moment i'm still debating on

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great i sold my game too soon. I've heard it's a waste of money and that you finish the mission faster than it downloads. but i've gotta buy it again and hold on to it to do forli and the vanities DLC. sigh... broke. spent my money on mag and i bought that game in quarters.... ubisoft why are you being such leechers? don't follow koei on this path!!
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Played the DLC recently and beated it, even got the achievement that l wanted. The DLC was fun but short, l really wish Ubisoft can expand it.

"l have the instrument to make more" line was funny but at the same time sexy. :whistle:
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