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| Topic Started: Jun 26 2009, 12:46 PM (39,706 Views) | |
| BlackKite | Jun 26 2009, 12:46 PM Post #1 |
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object.
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/1560/ This mysterious site appears all of a sudden. First found it at Kobayashi's blog. At first I wonder if it's just a random new Capcom game teaser, but seems like all descriptions in the Capcom site point that this will be related to the SB series. But... why 1560? 
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| Crimsondramon | Jun 26 2009, 01:03 PM Post #2 |
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1560 is the year Okehazama took place is it not? Could be a hint to that, or a new Onimusha based around Okehazama 
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| Makishima! | Jun 27 2009, 01:06 AM Post #3 |
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1560....Okehazama? If it is so, it'd mean....young Nobunaga? His rise to the throne of "Devil King"? ...the relation with the Saitos, the marriage with Nohime? 1560 could also mean...the Amago still strong in the Chugoku region. Kyushu enveloped in that 3-way conflict....the Shikoku not yet unified. Hideyoshi still a mere soldier....Hanbei still under the Saitos? Keiji hanging out with them and Nene? ....the Kanto rivalry becoming more seriously a 3-way conflict, since Ujiyasu is still alive? Masamune struggling his way to the top? (the Mogami?) Hisahide nasty as usual....but maybe somewhat greener, and still fighting his "personal demons" Yoshi teru and Nagayoshi? Kasuga still under her previous employer...? (that'd give leeway to a certain new character for becoming more important...) A young Mitsunari under Nagamasa? (This is probably stretching it...) Damn...the possibilities just race through my head. I'm a hapless victim of the hype machine...and it's just 4 digits. Lol. Anyway, trying to thinking about it calmly..... - Kobayashi posted this in his Basara blog, so it has a 99% chance of being Basara related. - The year given is a huge turning point in Sengoku history. Applied to the characters we have, it would give much needed insight on their earlier years, - A spin-off just came out, so I think it's safe to say this won't be too... - the URL is http://www.capcom.co.jp/1560/ ....a place where a game would be. So musicals and other offshoots are out of the question, I'd wager. - Sengoku Musou 3 comes out this year (right? I saw an ad for this at a game store the other day), so I guess Capcom wants to start fighting the opposition? I can't think of anything else right now....but this looks bigger than the way SBBH was announced. Gonna keep my fingers crossed. And you bet your a** I'm going to the TGS next september..... ...If this is a new Onimusha....I think I'll speak in asterisks for a couple days.... |
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| Divine Justice | Jun 27 2009, 02:11 AM Post #4 |
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Thisthisthis PLEASE CAPCOM, this  If we're starting in 1560 this time, there's a slim chance we could see Dousan D: (yes, I know he died before 1560. But it's not as if SB sticks to the history). Basically what I'm trying to get at here is that if they try to sell this as a prequel to Sengoku BASARA, there's a good chance they'll want to show Dousan, because there's oh so much story potential between him and Nobunaga. Source of the Demon King's evil ways, plz?  Yes, I know I'm essentially hoping for the impossible, but I think it would be cool....
This too, please. I'm kind of tired of Ujiyasu getting the shaft. Though this isn't nearly as important to me as the above.
.... eh? Where'd you see this? You've said you're in Japan right now, right? Either way, quite interesting. Next time you go you'll have to get a picture, assuming it's still there. Kinda strange we haven't seen anything of the sort yet though... |
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| BlackKite | Jun 27 2009, 03:07 AM Post #5 |
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Anyway, I don't think this would be related to Onimusha. Because even in Capcom's main game portal at http://www.capcom.co.jp/game the update is specified as 戦国BASARAシリーズ 公式サイトスペシャルサイト公開！ Which is why this Has to be related with Sengoku Basara series. And also, some more things I found out about 1560. It's the birthyear of Ishida Mitsunari and Naoe Kanetsugu The Battle of Nagahama, Chousokabe Motochika's first battle, and also the year the rule of Chousokabe clan was transferred from Kunichika to Motochika. Like any other facts though, there's no guarantee whether these could light up any new hints... just keep praying. |
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| Makishima! | Jun 27 2009, 03:12 AM Post #6 |
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I haven't seen anything conclusive, really. But in a game store near where I live, this was written: "That Sengoku Musou is coming back soon too...." Don't remember if there were dates or anything....GameFaqs says 2009 too, doesn't it? Is it doubtful? Sorry, I don't know much about the franchise. Anyway, back on topic. I agree with everything Divine Justice said. If we need to explore Nobunaga and Nouhime's past, the Saitos are essential. Especially Dosan. As not to make him just a "bonus" attached to them, add Yoshitatsu too and a family (real or false) story basically builds itself... Hell, he and Ujiyasu are the only characters the game mentions but doesn't show, IIRC. The Saitos were even mentioned in the anime!!! Edit: You bet I'm gonna pray my ass off...chanting Kobayashi, Saito, Asakura Otomo etc like a real mantra.... I haven't been this excited since the SBBH "surprise" announcement. C'mon Capcom!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited by Makishima!, Jun 27 2009, 03:15 AM.
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| Divine Justice | Jun 27 2009, 03:57 AM Post #7 |
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Well, it's certainly possible. It's just that we haven't had anything at all since quite a few months ago, IIRC. They usually like to give it a few months of scans. So assuming they start this summer it could happen, I guess. Otherwise I wouldn't count on it.
Wow, finally found someone who agrees with me here. I'd love the both of them (Dousan has been my most wanted inclusion in Musou and BASARA since I got into the Sengoku era), but I'm going to try and stifle my excitement about this for now since we don't really know for sure exactly what the 1560 is referencing. I'll be sure to keep my fingers crossed though
I'm right there in the same boat 
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| Crimsondramon | Jun 27 2009, 04:09 AM Post #8 |
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A prequel to the regular Basaras? That could be interesting. I'd love to see that, then again I'd like to see anything at this rate 
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| wodash | Jun 27 2009, 04:46 AM Post #9 |
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it goes without saying,they even made a young nobunaga artwork back in SB1 nobunaga,even though not blatantly stated like the masa~yuki thing,is also a firm trademark of the SB franchise,but as you all know he dies in almost every game/story ever(with a bang of course),so in order to make a new game with nobunaga in it WITHOUT having him dead AGAIN is a prequel i've discussed this possibility over and over again at GF and it seems that the hunch of the crowds are about to come true.... |
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| Kratos Aurion | Jun 27 2009, 05:22 AM Post #10 |
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:O SAITOU PLEASE! Seriously..1560, first thing that popped into my head was Okehazema. But remember Mitsunari got #1 in the polls? He was born in this year..hmm. |
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| Raiga Kagekami | Jun 27 2009, 02:38 PM Post #11 |
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OMG!Why do I feel so excited?Must be the hype of this thread.Its great if they're gonna make a prequel.Expecting lots of news of SB soon....the only thing is that I hope they turn it into english...wait Im dreaming the impossible...also seeing where Capcom's gonna port this game to...Now i feel tensed. |
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| Neo Juste Belmont | Jun 27 2009, 03:56 PM Post #12 |
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1560 Which means, once again, we're not on any part where Tokugawa does something awesome... GOD DAMN IT CAPCOM, SCREW THAT TAKECHIYO STITCH AND LET HIM EVOLVE INTO GOD DAMN IEYASU ALREADY! IT'S THE TAKECHIYO STITCH THAT IS MAKING IEYASU PATHETIC IN THE SERIES! WHAT DO YOU SEE THE TOKUGAWA AS, A CLAN FULL OF PUNCHING BAGS!? Edited by Neo Juste Belmont, Jun 27 2009, 04:00 PM.
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| Raiga Kagekami | Jun 27 2009, 04:12 PM Post #13 |
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Woah,what's with the flame there?Cool down.....that doesn't mean Tokugawa won't be included in the game. |
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| Devilsking | Jun 27 2009, 05:03 PM Post #14 |
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I donīt quite get it. Why does everyone say young Nobunaga...and story before SB? A date, even if itīs 1560, doesnīt really mean a thing in SB. If they want to include characters that were before the SB story, or even after, theyīll just do it. If they want to tell the story of Nobunaga, theyīll make an alternate outfit for him, just like they did with the Keiji-Hideyoshi Gaiden story. They can just go on as ever. And also, if itīs really the site for SB3, I belive that itīs really just the birth year of Mitsunari and Kanetsugu. Maybe some funny slogan flashes in like: "They were born in 1560...and are now reborn in 2009!" And then the usual BASARA trailer comes in, showing of Masamune Yukimura Keiji and then Mitsunari and Kanetsugu....or those two at first... And guys/girls...what makes you so sure this is SB3? I made the same fuss a long time ago and then it turned out to be the PSP SB. Maybe itīs a DS game? Or just a Wii party game? Or just a handy game? I wonīt get my hopes up as long as thereīs no trailer.  No dissapointment this time 
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| Kratos Aurion | Jun 28 2009, 01:05 AM Post #15 |
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As much as I personally dislike the Tokugawa, I agree with you. They need to either remove the Li'l Takechiyo thing altogether, or have "Takechiyo" as we know him just a kagemusha for a real, secretive Ieyasu (Kotaro? LOL) Seriously though, Tokugawa needs to be portrayed differently. |
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| Neo Juste Belmont | Jun 28 2009, 01:07 AM Post #16 |
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Not that. I mean, that means once again, even if the Tokugawa gets included they will get the shaft of being unimportant and looking pathetic. And that's what I hate. If only they'd make Tokugawa more respectable, that'll finally make me calm down. I've tried to take the approach like Ieyasu, patient as ever, hoping that one day Capcom will give him the glory he deserves. But after the anime... let's just say I have reached my limit of patience and I'm pretty sure Ieyasu was just human and has his own patience limit. |
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| Makishima! | Jun 28 2009, 02:54 AM Post #17 |
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The last two releases of the franchise have been spin-offs...one more would be overkill. If they let me down one more time I'm seriously losing faith.... @ Belmont: As Devilsking said, years don't matter much in SB: so nothing's stopping them from changing the Tokugawa (adding more allies or reinforcing Ieyasu's character) since it's not like all characters will definitely have prequels...or they might just retcon him again...who knows. |
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| Neo Juste Belmont | Jun 28 2009, 04:42 AM Post #18 |
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Not 'adding' characters. You do know that 1560 means Ieyasu is still a hostage under Imagawa, right? Well that would mean they'd amp up his already embarassing traits of being kidnapped all the time. They need to learn that they have to move on from things that are embarassing and let it be just reminders, rather than amping it up to eleven. |
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| Raiga Kagekami | Jun 28 2009, 04:48 AM Post #19 |
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So you want the Tokugawa to get more respect,eh?I don't believe Capcom's gonna do that...Are they biased or what? |
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| Devilsking | Jun 28 2009, 08:40 AM Post #20 |
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You do know that 1560 means Ieyasu is still a hostage under Imagawa, right? Well, if we really assume ( which it probably isnīt) that this date has something to do with the SB story and plays a major part in the game...couldnīt this mean something else? Yes Nobunaga killed off Yoshimoto in this battle...which means that someone wasnīt a hostage anymore...couldnīt it mean Ieyasuīs story, starts with him being an underling, then battle after of Okehazama and battle after battle rising to an capable leader? If they really go the "three rulers, three villains"-law then this could mean itīs the rise of bad boy Ieyasu, the day Ieyasu wasnīt a hostage anymore. EDIT: I just noticed something on the site. The sound effects. It sounds like itīs night and someone is breathing calmly. This could really mean someone is waiting at night, for his enemy to come. To start of a battle the will determine the fate of Japan...nah, I just jump to conclusions...this is BASARA...a year means nothing... Edited by Devilsking, Jun 28 2009, 08:59 AM.
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| Hondam | Jun 28 2009, 08:58 AM Post #21 |
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I agree with devilsking on pretty much everything. Dates have never meant anything in the SB-verse. A pre-quel would be cool, but I think in the end they would have to cut and add way too many character changes resulting in a completely changed look of SB, both cast and the game itself. I guess I just don't see capcom going down that way, especially when (after what, 5 titles in the SB franchise?) the characters have remained stagnant for the most part. I guess I just don't see this 1560 thing as being SB3? They'd have to completely re-do the foundation of the previous SB games, killing off momentum 5 titles in the making. And besides, starting in 1560 would mean Capcom would lose their two biggest poster boys. I certainly don't see that happening... Either way though, I'm just glad the ball is finally rolling on something new. We've gone way too long without a full-on SB game in all its greatness. |
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| Neo Juste Belmont | Jun 28 2009, 09:03 AM Post #22 |
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You know, I wish this is true. But I shouldn't keep such high hope. Capcom knew this would happen, so they would hype up with "Here's finally a chance of Ieyasu to become awesome!" ... only to reveal that "Nope, we'd like Ieyasu to be an eternal weaksauce! HA HA HA!" It happens in the anime. It could happen again here. Edited by Neo Juste Belmont, Jun 28 2009, 09:05 AM.
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There is credence to this "prequel" thing though. There is an official art of young Basara Nobunaga (loking quite shirtless and badass) out there. Am I the only one who knows of this? O_o? |
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| Devilsking | Jun 28 2009, 09:17 AM Post #24 |
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Someone allready stated it: http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-09/sb-oda-nobunaga2.html He looks pretty cool. But I hope itīs really not a prequel. First, Ieyasu will be even younger and a lot of our characters werenīt even born (like Mitsunari and Kanetsugu...I want them in) If they make a two part BASARA no problem, meaning thereīs the past and the future storyline, with some characters having two versions. But I donīt think it would be like that.... EDIT: http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_sengoku-basara_a.html http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_sengoku-basara-2_a.html This is a nice site with game artworks. First one is for SB arts, second for SB2 arts. Edited by Devilsking, Jun 28 2009, 09:21 AM.
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| Hondam | Jun 28 2009, 10:36 AM Post #25 |
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Those were concept art/illustrations done a long time ago for SB and SB2, they don't really mean anything. They are very awesome though, and Capcom should've stuck with a lot of the concept designs for some characters.. |
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