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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
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It's more of a thing that you have to read into the "intent" with which BASARA Nobunaga uses it. He speaks in a lot of self-exalting mannerisms, so in that respect alone, it makes sense that he uses "Ware" in a way that high-falooting royalty probably would. :hehe: Therefore, I agree with the way Makishima/Oboro translates it as such.

But yeah, seeing how Nobunaga "fell" would definitely make for an interesting story in itself. And like I said, doing such a thing would make for an easy character addition. "Before the Fall!"Nobunaga! Unlock him by beating Regular Nobunaga's storyline! XD
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:09 am
It's more of a thing that you have to read into the "intent" with which BASARA Nobunaga uses it. He speaks in a lot of self-exalting mannerisms, so in that respect alone, it makes sense that he uses "Ware" in a way that high-falooting royalty probably would. :hehe: Therefore, I agree with the way Makishima/Oboro translates it as such.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't mind, in fact I think it's kinda cool. I was just wondering if it was anything in addition or if it was just the use of "ware" alone.

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But yeah, seeing how Nobunaga "fell" would definitely make for an interesting story in itself. And like I said, doing such a thing would make for an easy character addition. "Before the Fall!"Nobunaga! Unlock him by beating Regular Nobunaga's storyline! XD


Hah, yeah. And as long as they're different (hey, they'd have to be if Pre-crisis Nobunaga didn't have his cape yet!) who really cares? I for one wouldn't mind, as long as he wasn't a cheap free-mode/conquest mode only character.

... hm, how would they do Conquest mode with him though? Random? Or maybe depending on the character? Or probably the unfortunate, but much more likely restriction to Evil Nobunaga.
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Who says Nobunaga ever "fell" though?? I just assumed he was always like that, he's depicted as the demon king since okehazama and there's no indication from other SB characters or otherwise he somehow changed, unlike Hideyoshi who has numerous references to his past.

Still an origin story for him would be interesting.

Hopefully we get a story for Matsunaga Hisahide this time around. He still largely remains a mystery, why does he do, what he does?? At the moment his sole purpose seems to be to toy with the lives of others, pushing them to their breaking point. Unlike a lot of other daimyo he doesn't really seem to have any grand plan (at least that we know of) to seize power, he remains a true agent of chaos.
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I live in Asia and so I have a NTSC-J Xbox360.If only this thing if were to come to the X360...*shouts at cousin to get PS3 quickly* LOL.
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Who says Nobunaga ever "fell" though?? I just assumed he was always like that, he's depicted as the demon king since okehazama and there's no indication from other SB characters or otherwise he somehow changed, unlike Hideyoshi who has numerous references to his past.

Still an origin story for him would be interesting.


Well, there is a good deal of ground that could be covered for Nobunaga's sake, in the BASARA-verse. Like for instance, how he "united" the clan after his Pops' death, and consummated all power in the Owari region.

Any one of these types of events, including Okehazama could have told more about Nobunaga's "fall". It'd just be a matter if such stories are meant to be told or not.


As for Hisahide? Well, he's basically the BASARA version of the role that Musou's Fuuma occupies. He's an agent of chaos, yes, but technically (if we go according to history), he stands to be one of the thorns in Nobunaga's side, with his multiple crosses, double-crosses and etc., in the midst of his other dealings.

If they really wanted to play up the angle that they've given him thus far, that's a good place to start. I also hope he could summon the Death Trio as part of his moves. That'd be nifty! :D


Edited by HokutoNoBen, Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:22 pm.
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About Nobunaga: I'm sure you noticed, but in my translations I sometimes translated the subject he uses as "I", but most times as "we".

"I" is when he uses ware (a high-sounding pronoun, but Yukimura, Motonari, Hideyoshi, ecc when they're being serious. Well, the latter two are always serious...but Yukimura uses "soregashi" at times, which is a lot humbler)

When I wrote "We" or "us", Nobunaga says "Yo" (—]), a personal pronoun often used by kings, deities, emperors and other "absolute" characters.

Nobunaga often says that he's a king of demons, so I guess he refers to that when using such a pronoun...(he's the only one in the game to use that btw)

I'll add a "characters' speech" in the next FAQ update...there're many things I can't translate correctly, it's a real shame...

Example: Hanbei's way of speaking has him putting himself above everyone, except Hideyoshi....he's condescending as hell, using -tamae (verb suffix that doctors, directors, etc use when speaking to pupils-patients) and adds -kun to many young chars (Masamune, Yukimura, the Motos, and Toshiie (wtf))

Incidentally, Hisahide is the only one other character to use -tamae. (see a pattern? :P)


I rambled too much....sorry :o
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Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that :D Very interesting stuff, and quite fitting for an arrogant asshole. I love it.

In regards to Hisahide, I agree that he pretty much just exists to cause a disturbance. I mean, his entire encounter with Kojuro didn't really seem to have much of a purpose. He wanted the swords, but for what reason? Leads me to believe he was just bored, because I somehow can't see him getting anything out of owning Masamune's swords except maybe as a prize proving that he bested the One-Eyed Dragon.

So yeah, I could see his story being all about him screwing with random people just for the hell of it. :sly: It'd be a nice change of pace to have a sort of "Joker" character who really just exists to throw a wrench in your plans simply because he can.
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Oichi looks like a very powerful character when strengthened. I wish I could play as Muri ;_;
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So I'm guessing no SB3 info in Famitsu this week since nothing has popped up by now. Hopefully we still get a site update on friday though.
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So I'm guessing no SB3 info in Famitsu this week since nothing has popped up by now. Hopefully we still get a site update on friday though.
Tell me about it.
I got up at 8:00am to check if there was any news :hehe:
Well,heres hoping for the site update.
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Same here....no news doesn't mean good news....let's hope the day after tomorrow brings good news!!

As the prophet predicted....
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Still nothing new.

Oh well, maybe tomorrow...hopefully. Untill then, I´ll gonna play some Fat Princess ;)
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:18 am
Still nothing new.
Site updates are always friday (Japan time. Usually around the afternoon), with famitsu info on wednesdays (again, japan time) so don't expect anything on the off days.

Anywho...any bets for the (hopefully!) update tomorrow? I'm still holding that they'll reveal the two new guys plus the main trio, or maybe even a full trailer (what a tease the last one was!). Also, hopefully koei's revelation about SM3's release date will spur more SB3 info in the coming weeks as well. Go go company competition
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:51 am
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:18 am
Still nothing new.
Site updates are always friday (Japan time. Usually around the afternoon), with famitsu info on wednesdays (again, japan time) so don't expect anything on the off days.

Anywho...any bets for the (hopefully!) update tomorrow? I'm still holding that they'll reveal the two new guys plus the main trio, or maybe even a full trailer (what a tease the last one was!). Also, hopefully koei's revelation about SM3's release date will spur more SB3 info in the coming weeks as well. Go go company competition
its still too early for that, but maybey we will get something.
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To be honest, I'd settle for one character, a release date, or even just confirmation of what console it's on... anything essentially.
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I feel you all...especially DJ (we think alike many times, it seems! Next update--> change silhouettes to Dosan and Yoshitatsu, amirite?)

I'm hitting F5 at 10 minutes intervals here....


Edit: Comics update today....damnit...

Looks like the Basara's anime will have its comic form on Dengeki Maioh from next week or whatever.

What I can say is that I'm frikin tired of waiting...and that colored illustration's Yukimura looks horse-faced...
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:35 am.
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Meh. Well, on to waiting for next week. :/

Like I said earlier, hopefully we get some famitsu batches soon since Koei has apparently started their drive.

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its still too early for that, but maybey we will get something.


I wasn't saying like a full on trailer for the game, of course we have awhile to wait for that. I meant like one of those character trailers they usually put up. I forget if they had everyone revealed before they started showing those on SB/2/H, but eh. One can wish for it.
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That´s all?

Wow...teasing. Is that some kind of sick joke nowadays?

Releasing a site were allmost nothing´s there and then update it after an unbelievable time, just to say, YES HERE IT IS.

At least they don´t have that stupid countdown...though that would tell us when they finally update something.

As for a REAL trailer, I bet as BK said, they´ll show it on the TGS. And that´s a long time to go. <_<
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:33 am.
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I got up at 8:00am again for nothing :meantongue:
I was honestly hoping for something today,even if it wasn't anything special.
Oh and Devilsking,if your talking about the teaser trailer,that was updated two weeks ago :hehe:

Oh well,maybe we'll get a Famitsu scan next Wednesday...hopefully.
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Yeah, talk about teasing...sigh.


I love your AV Devilsking! Can't wait to see it colored....
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Well,the TGS is towards the end of September,right?
That isn't so much of a wait for me,I mean,we are basically at the end of July and we'll surely get some sort of information before September.

Just as long as we get something before Christmas,I'll be happy :hehe:

I've currently been reading about Tachibana Muneshige.I'd think he'd be a great add along with Ginchiyo and could rival Yoshihiro.
For some reason,the whole Yoshihiro vs Tadakatsu doesn't do it for me :unsure:
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Thanks Makishima!

It´s a constant reminder, that we still don´t know who that is :P

@MP

I allready so the Teaser (even put it on my youtube favourites...well...I guess I´m to blame myself for teasing myself :rolleyes: )

I meant the character trailer Krat spoke about.
And that´s the one I´m waiting for.

...TGS...two months to go...
Well...as long as we get something for christmas...you´re right ;)

And looking at my signature and at yours...I guess I have too many characters -_-
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:24 am.
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I meant the character trailer Krat spoke about.
And that´s the one I´m waiting for.
Those are site updates though, showing off the characters and usually 2 or so of their special moves, which is why I'm expecting we might get at least one soon. A full on game trailer (showing more than just the characters) is what will be awaiting us (hopefully!!) at TGS.
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Maybe he´ll look like that :XD

The new Ieyaswukong!
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Maybe he´ll look like that :XD

The new Ieyaswukong!
:crazy: oh i hope not.... :XD
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