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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,234 Views)
eklineage
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Despite all the nut twisting news that Basara 3 had lately... I'm still hopeful. After all... they said the same thing with Tekken 3.
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eklineage
Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:29 am
^i dunno. I tried complaining about Yoshihiro and got the lame "well it's cuz of the history" excuse. Basara was never really accurate in terms of japanese history anyway.

It's like wanting to play a DW game as Lu Bu... but you get a half ass substitute like Hou Cheng.

Mitsunari is popular but in no way will he outclass Kenshin in terms of name value... if that makes any sense at all.

Sasuke Sarutobi is also a famous ninja... but he got npc'ified. He said that he will represent a lot of clans but 1 character representing each clan is pretty stupid. I know I'm probably gonna get eaten alive by the Koba lovers lol.
Well, I dunno what your complaint on Yoshihiro(unless your complaint is that he's rather boring, which is true) so I can't comment on that.

I don't think your DW comparison is fair because unlike SW(until SW3 anyway) that series has already had some mid-latter era names like Sima Yi, Jiang Wei and Lu Xun that have been around in DW before SW or SB even existed. SW and SB are only now really starting to expand on post-Nobunaga/Hideyoshi stuff.

But really, Mitsunari is nowhere close to being on the low level of Hou Cheng. He's a very recognized name in Japan, more on the level compared to Sima Yi. He's definitely one of the most recognizable names from that era. In the poll Capcom made for what character Japanese players wanted, Mitsunari beat out everyone else.

I think Kobayashi's idea to have a lot of clans represented is one of his good ideas, I'm just not sure I agree with how he's doing it.

And yes, there are a good number of famous daimyo during the Sekigahara era. One thing that makes character choices difficult for a Sengoku game compared to a Sangoku one is that there's just way more individual forces in Sengoku, many with their own significant battles and struggles with neighboring clans. In Sangoku, there's only a handful of forces even if you include shmucks like Han Fu and Zhao Fan, and it ultimately boils down to just the Three Kingdoms really fast. Pretty ironic considering China's vast size compared to Japan.
Edited by SRS, Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:14 am.
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eklineage
Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:52 am
Jesus... Koba is taking out all of the famous figures. Koba should have used lesser known names in the first two games lol. Are there any major warlords in the battle of Sekigahara that was not introduced in previous games?

I'm guessing this is the wrong place to say such a thing. It seems a lot of ppl here worship the ground Koba walks on lol.
try playing kessen 1,or just looks at the FAQs about it,you'll find pretty much everyone that is famous in sekigahara,too lazy to list it and it'll take quite long for you to browse wiki for that.....

yes,this is the wrong place to say this line: "It seems a lot of ppl here worship the ground Koba walks on lol."

i can assure you,the number of koba worshipers worldwide is on the low these days........
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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http://imepita.jp/20100113/375200


Guys, we even got 3 characters this time!!!


KuroKan, Tsuruhime and Yoshihiro!!
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BlackKite
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Damn, I'm beaten...... orz

But I'm digging Tsuruhime. Nice to see the famous female archer making it in. ^_^

EDIT: Uploaded to more permanent host
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Edited by BlackKite, Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:45 am.
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Blast! Foiled again!

But good stuff all the same! The two newbies look great!
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Hmmmm, Kanbei? I wanted him to be Masanori :( At least he looks awesome. :lol:

Also, any info on Tsuruhime? No idea who she is. D:
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Nice! no silhouettes?
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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But I have to go now, so the bigger scans they'll upload in a while are all yours, Super Kite!

Can't wait to read the descriptions....
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(゚ Д゚)。。。

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(゚ Д゚)。。。

(つд⊂)ゴシゴシゴシゴシ

(;゚ Д゚)

TSURUHIME!? How, wut why when how?? She's from pre-Nobunaga era Sengoku! The head of the Mishima navy!

I'm elated she's in, but BUH!?
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Seraphil
Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:44 am
(゚ Д゚)。。。

(つд⊂)ゴシゴシ

(゚ Д゚)。。。

(つд⊂)ゴシゴシゴシゴシ

(;゚ Д゚)

TSURUHIME!? How, wut why whenhow?? She's from pre-Nobunaga era Sengoku! The head of the Mishima navy!

I'm elated she's in, but BUH!?
Eh?

I thought this Tsuruhime was the daughter of Nobunaga, himself and wife of Nakagawa Hidemasa. Unless I'm mistaken...?
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Kuroda Kanbei's seiyuu is Koyama Rikiya,
and Tsuruhime's is Koshimizu Ami!?!? OMG, Kallen's seiyuu!!! (゚∀゚)
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Non non.

This is the Tsuruhime that led the Mishima navy and served the Kono clan of Shikoku, and I believe fought with the Ouchi/Mouri in naval combat. She died in 1543!

You can see the Kono crest next to her name in the scan.
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eklineage
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Where are the silhouettes? =X
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Let me guess. Tsuruhime is supposedly the replacement for Ranmaru just like how Mitsunari for Kenshin and Magoichi for Nouhime?

Kanbei's moveset looks really wide ranged! And on the very bottom of the page, I think it shows screenshots of Conquest Mode?
Edited by RoyalRocket, Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:02 am.
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eklineage
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Hmm... Tsuruhime could have looked better with long hair =P

Now where is my kunoichi replacement?
Edited by eklineage, Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:06 am.
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BlackKite
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I guess as a consequence of introducing one more new character we don't get silhouettes anymore? w
But with this I hope the update pattern will be shorter and more stable.

Anyway, here's a JP Wiki article on Tsuruhime.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%B6%B4%E5%A7%AB_%28%E5%A4%A7%E4%B8%89%E5%B3%B6%29

And a bit bigger scans
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BlackKite
Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:54 am
Kuroda Kanbei's seiyuu is Koyama Rikiya,
and Tsuruhime's is Koshimizu Ami!?!? OMG, Kallen's seiyuu!!! (゚∀゚)
And Kanbei is played by the same guy who did Zeppeli from the recent Jojo's Bizarre Adventure movie, as well as played the JP dub voice "Jack Bauer" from 24 (and a similar character in the 08 Yatterman series).

Heh, not bad!

And yeah, I see your point, Seraphil.
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Maybe Tsuruhime lived past her death in Basara and fought in Sekigahara?
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HokutoNoBen
Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:06 am
BlackKite
Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:54 am
Kuroda Kanbei's seiyuu is Koyama Rikiya,
and Tsuruhime's is Koshimizu Ami!?!? OMG, Kallen's seiyuu!!! (゚∀゚)
And Kanbei is played by the same guy who did Zeppeli from the recent Jojo's Bizarre Adventure movie, as well as played the JP dub voice "Jack Bauer" from 24 (and a similar character in the 08 Yatterman series).

Heh, not bad!

And yeah, I see your point, Seraphil.
Also Wukong from Maou Sairin and Shinigami from Soul Eater. :hehe:
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Man, it's so bizarre for me that Basara would beat Sengoku Musou in introducing pre-Nobunaga era characters.

Holy crap, maybe this means Sue Harukata might appear!! And then Tachibana Dosetsu! Do it Kobayashi and I can forgive your previous screwball decisions!

The thing with Tsuru is that she committed seppuku at a mere age of seventeen due to the lose of her brother and her lover as well from fighting the Ouchi invasion. I guess Kobayashi's just going to ignore that part of her legend and have her live on through the era.
Edited by SRS, Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:13 am.
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Ok... I guess it's not impossible for Nene to appear lol. Iirc she died when Sekigahara took place right?

Hear that guys? It's all the fangirls crying. But at what cost.... AT WHAT COST. I LOVED YOU... YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT IN SEKIGAHARA.. NOT JOIN THE NPC LIST!
Edited by eklineage, Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:12 am.
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I'll have to cross poor Dish-Head Nagamasa off my wanted list since his daddy is confirmed. Darn.
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eklineage
Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:11 am
Ok... I guess it's not impossible for Nene to appear lol. Iirc she died when Sekigahara took place right?
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I'd say she's still impossible here. If they loosely followed the SB2 background, then Hideyoshi should still have killed her when he began the power conquest.

Oh, and a while ago someone mentioned about HM contents not updated yet. Sorry, last week I've been busy since college chores were at climax. I hope to be able to add them later this evening perhaps.
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Tsuruhime.... those pink stuff around her. Is that her arrows? That's pretty sick. I wish they worked more on Kanbei's clothing though. Looks sorta bland... but that's what alternate costumes are for I guess.
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