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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,222 Views)
Balder
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eklineage,
Thanks for the correction on the "port" term. Seriously, I was tossing the term around like crazy salad, I forgot it's actual meaning.
And yes, the main issue with PS3's T6 is the loading times, about three times longer than the X360.
To just finish on my part our small port discussion, I admit that my comments on the X360 getting the better versions was mostly fueled by my great disappointment towards Bayonetta and Tekken 6, the non-Capcom titles I was mostly anticipating as a eventual PS3 owner.


HokutoNoBen,
Even though I have no interest on Nintendo's console, I have to agree with you, most Capcom Wii titles tend to be either lousy ports or games designed with the Wiimote gimmick in mind. If they want to really succeed they need to put some work, even if it isn't some technical magnum opus like SFIV or RE5, and stick what they know what to do - solid action titles.
Every software house has their commercial "sin", Capcom's seems to be quick cash-ins supported on big franchise names. I mean, seriously, at this point who's gonna buy RE0 for the Wii? As much as I support them and still consider them the finest software house, they need to stop and think for a while before blaming consumers.
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well there's TVC,MH3,the previous SB2 bundle and now this game(all of the re-ports from GC does NOT count).surely capcom isn't just throwing random games at wii(or do they?)

its not surprising to see SB3 as a wii game especially since they already did the prequel there

and yeah,most of the wii games that is NOT made by nintendo themselves are usually weird spinoffs of other famous games

-the RE rail shooters
-SW:katana
-DQ swords(or whatever it is called)
-soul calibur legends

is some of the examples,and most of them are no fun to play if you're not a huge fan of the series,and sometimes even the fans usually get pissed,like SW:katana(aside from RE,which is quite okay for rail fans)
Edited by wodash, Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:27 am.
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BlackKite
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Found an article with Tsuru & Kanbei's skill descriptions
http://www.4gamer.net/games/094/G009450/20100125031/

Looks like Tsuru is getting a lot of skills with huge recoil, eh? :rolleyes:
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Recoil? I think that's Tsuruhime's specialty...attacking while increasing the distance between her and her foes. From the special effects in the screens, it looks like she's ice element alright...makes her Basara seem less out of the blue...

And Kanbei looks more and more interesting...can't wait to see a gameplay video....
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wodash,
Yeah, those first titles you mentioned are pretty good, which is why I say Capcom should really stick to what they know.
I have to admit though, I'm not entirely against the RE rail shooters, at least they show some amount of effort and production values, especially DC with it's impressive live orchestra soundtrack.
And dear God...Soul Calibur Legends, why did you have to remind me of that? ;)

BlackKite,
Nice find! They both look bloody good fun. I like the fact that Tsuruhime's not a texture swap of Ranmaru an Kanbei just looks wicked fun! I mean, was he drop-kicking the ball against enemies? And was that a Final Atomic Buster throw I saw? Friggin' A!
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Thanks heaps BK. While I like the look of Tsuru's skills I can't get over the color of her arrows. Pink just doesn't go well with ice at least not from what I've seen so far. That being said I'm still a little skeptical if she really is an ice user. Her latter pictures seem to suggest it but the picture with the bubble-like objects are bothering me. All in all though, she's growing on me.

Kanbei looks fantastic. I was wondering a couple of days ago, do you think he's a wind user? While his skills doesn't strike me as it, his BASARA seems to have some hint of it. Now it might just be me, but who knows? Also for some reason, I kinda like his pony-tail :hehe: .

A question, does anybody know what the marks on the back of his coat/jacket are?
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I wonder what the next updates is going to be O.o
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We.........Need.........A...... NEW GAMEPLAY VID. Really though. I mean Koba can't even give us like, Keiji, or someone!
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:18 am.
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Thanks BK, the scans look wicked awesome.

I guess my theory about Tsu-chan was right, she looks like an ice user. Her skills surprisingly seem like they do quite well in short-range. She looks deadly AND cute at the same time. Sccaaarryyy :hehe:

Kanbei,Kanbei,Kanbei. Something about him creeps me out, but he looks beastly to play as. one of the skills seem to have him planting his metal ball on the ground, then punching(smacking) it even deeper into the ground, causing an earthquake.

Well it seems both Tsu-chan and Kan-Kan(omgroflmao can-can HAHAHAAHA....lame joke I know <_< ) Are both equally badass. Can't wait to see their interactions with other characters.

Oh and does anyone know what side Kanbei will be in. Tsu-chan will obviously be with the Western Army(since Motochika is in the Eastern) but I have yet to find out where Kanbei will be placed.I think most likely Eastern going historically but then again this is BASARA..... :ph43r:
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Those screens officially put me over the top as Kanbei being one of my top characters to play as ASAP. Looks like he does ridiculous things with that ball and chain, seems extremely mobile as well for such a heavy weapon. I cannot wait.
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I hope TsuTsu is our only loli. I don't get why Ieyasu is the only one to get a age make over.

Btw who likes my Kasuga sig XD

Personally I think the ball and chain sounds lame. I would have preferred if it was a mace lol.
Edited by eklineage, Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:57 am.
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BlackKite
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LadyGetsuei
Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:41 pm
Oh and does anyone know what side Kanbei will be in. Tsu-chan will obviously be with the Western Army(since Motochika is in the Eastern) but I have yet to find out where Kanbei will be placed.I think most likely Eastern going historically but then again this is BASARA..... :ph43r:
A bit correction here. Motochika is with the west, so if Tsuru is against him, she should be in the east.
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eklineage
Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:28 am
I hope TsuTsu is our only loli. I don't get why Ieyasu is the only one to get a age make over.

Btw who likes my Kasuga sig XD

Personally I think the ball and chain sounds lame. I would have preferred if it was a mace lol.
I think the main reason for Ieyasu's redesign is because he's one of the new main characters, and his rule of the Eastern Army is gonna be big. Having him as the same useless kid from the previous games wouldn't look right.

And check the Tsuruhime thread. I don't think she's considered a loli because she looks to be around 15-16, while lolis are under 12. :mellow:

And your Kasuga sig is pretty sick. :XD

@BK: Thanks for those pics. Man, Tsuruhime and Kanbei look like they're gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see them in action. And speaking of that.

@BasaraIsBest: I agree. WE NEED GAMEPLAY VIDEOS DAMMIT.
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looking at the the pics,it seems that tsuru really is "skating on thin ice",literally,she's a surprise pick from capcom,which is not an entirely good one since the negative responses are almost equal and perhaps even more than the positive responses about her,that and she can slide along the ground with her skill,a la iceman....>.<

as for pink doesnt go well with ice?itsuki's 3rd costume was pink IIRC and it fits well with her joke weapon&element
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hey IDK if anyone already ask this but in the NA version will the names bein there japenese names but in english like in SW or DK names like DK
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:25 am
hey IDK if anyone already ask this but in the NA version will the names bein there japenese names but in english like in SW or DK names like DK
Since they've decided to title the game "Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes", it would seem they are smart enough to do the right thing and actually use their real names/storylines.
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DarkMantisTalon
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:25 am
hey IDK if anyone already ask this but in the NA version will the names bein there japenese names but in english like in SW or DK names like DK
Well if this isn't another Devil Kings, then they will most likely be Japanese names such as " Yukimura Sanada " or "Masamune Date". We don't know if they are going to use the Eastern or the Western name order though. If they use the Eastern ( Which is unlikely, sorry BlackKite) it would be "Sanada Yukimura" or "Date Masumune". Hope this helped.
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yeah i sorta figured since in named sengoku basara samurai heroes
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Unless I'm missing something glaringly obvious at the moment, I hope they don't do anything besides translating menus and such. Keep the japanese voice acting and everything.
They can save money AND please the fans!
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:19 am
Unless I'm missing something glaringly obvious at the moment, I hope they don't do anything besides translating menus and such. Keep the japanese voice acting and everything.
They can save money AND please the fans!
Some fans, and most newcomers, will demand nothing short of English voices at least. Dual Audio would be ideal, but all things considered, English audio is a necessity in North America.
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You make a good point, bearing in mind they need to attract newcomers.
Indeed dual audio would be great, but perhaps difficult for a game like Basara with so many characters with multiple lines.
I guess I should start getting used to the possibility of an English dub.
I don't mind it though, as long as it's of consistent quality. Devil Kings was something of a mixed bag, some characters like Q-Ball were amusing but others were nothing short of atrocious.
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:00 am
You make a good point, bearing in mind they need to attract newcomers.
Indeed dual audio would be great, but perhaps difficult for a game like Basara with so many characters with multiple lines.
I guess I should start getting used to the possibility of an English dub.
I don't mind it though, as long as it's of consistent quality. Devil Kings was something of a mixed bag, some characters like Q-Ball were amusing but others were nothing short of atrocious.
Well dual audio would obviously only be a choice for the PS3 version, and I don't know if they would make that option only available to one version, maybe, maybe not. However, japanese voices would only appeal to the hardcore fans, who would buy the game anyway, so there isn't much benefit in Capcom's eyes to use only that option, thus English only may be more likely. On the flip side, if they are just shooting for the niche audience, then no English = cheaper, so you never know.

Wow, I just wrote a whole post and said absolutely nothing :hehe:
Edited by robotzombie, Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:10 am.
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:45 am
DarkMantisTalon
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:25 am
hey IDK if anyone already ask this but in the NA version will the names bein there japenese names but in english like in SW or DK names like DK
Well if this isn't another Devil Kings, then they will most likely be Japanese names such as " Yukimura Sanada " or "Masamune Date". We don't know if they are going to use the Eastern or the Western name order though. If they use the Eastern ( Which is unlikely, sorry BlackKite) it would be "Sanada Yukimura" or "Date Masumune". Hope this helped.
This whole "Eastern/Western order" debate is confusing as hell. Yeah, they'll most likely put it in Western order like how every anime's done it since it became popular. But I would still be more pleased if this were in Eastern order, only to suit the historical context. And don't give me any BS about "Oh, the Westerners don't understand Eastern order." The Tokugawa Shogunate is taught at my school, and everyone knows his name as "Tokugawa Ieyasu", not "Ieyasu Tokugawa". The latter just sounds wierd compared to what we (we being my peers and I) have been taught and the name order isn't a big concern.

@Balder: As KA said, Japanese dub is only gonna appeal to the hardcore fans, because only the hardcore SB/anime fans are gonna appreciate it. For international release, the primary dub is the dub of the respective country. Japanese dub is gonna be secondary outside of Japan, and while giving the option to switch between dubs would be nice, it's not mandatory or guarenteed.
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im just happy there releasing it in NA unlike SB2
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Sengoku Basara 3 - Brandnew Screenshots released

Here are the new Screenshots:
1- http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2010/01/26/sengoku_basara_3/
2- http://www.famitsu.com/image/6212/tGEh3R3QALEdPRiZ8971AA5bojWoh9dR.html

source and info:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1231505_1124.html




Edited by Andreas-andi, Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:54 pm.
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