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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,205 Views)
robotzombie
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Well, remember guys, the game as of now is supposed to be coming out during "summer" 2010. Many people instantly say June, but it could be even July or August. That leaves 4-6 months until the game comes out. That really is a long time to go considering the amount of information we already have. And its sure to pick up steam once the game is closer to release. I don't really see a huge threat in terms of not enough content or a really small roster.

Remember, he did say ___ty characters, tons of playable characters, more than any other game, etc. etc. enough so that I really don't think he'd bs it because he'd be eaten alive if he didn't follow through.

The wait for info sucks, but we still have a long wait for the game, so I don't think anyone should be panicking or claiming there's going to be some huge lack of content...
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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So the first reports about the anime event have appeared on 2ch:

It seems they showed the game's opening, which included all 4 main characters and the new characters introduced till now. (I wonder about the other old ones?)

Anyway, judging from the fact that SB2's opening showed a very small part of the roster, this doesn't mean much.....

EDIT: The night event finished too. As mentioned before, all new characters presented until now + Ieyasu/Tadakatsu and the ex poster boys in the opening.

Not much else of importance, but Mitsuhide's seiyuu said (in both events) that he's going to "transform and get into the game".

Nankobo Tenkai?
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:42 pm.
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Yosh, we got something new!

So, the new opening only showcases the new characters revealed up until now, Masamune and Yukimura. Hmm, I know its most likely not the case, but perhaps the newcomers revealed will have more relevance to the story than the ones we have yet to see... Or perhaps they edited out the ones that haven't been officially announced?

Its probably nothing to worry about. As you stated NDY, we only saw Hanbei, Hideyoshi and KG in SB2's. Also, the opening would've probably included T.M Revolution's new song, right?

Oh, and most shocking of all, Nankobo Tenkai!
And the plot thickens... :sly:
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So...another character that doesnŽt really belong into the whole Sekigahara setting? :rolleyes:

Though IŽd love to see Mitsuhide back...although heŽd probably change drastically...meh. :mellow:

LetŽs just wait and see what weŽll get next week with TsuruŽs voice :)
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Hmm, I know its most likely not the case, but perhaps the newcomers revealed will have more relevance to the story than the ones we have yet to see... Or perhaps they edited out the ones that haven't been officially announced?


I reckon they either edited out the parts with the other characters, or the opening simply doesn't include everyone (remember the opening for the first game only had a few characters) and they purposefully only revealed the characters who made an appearance.

I'll be excited to hear more about the new song. Basara really love T.M. Revolution don't they? ;)

And a new Mitsuhide-like character? How interesting. It could just mean Garasha though :lol:

According to the anime event season 2 is scheduled for a July release. What does that say about the game I wonder?
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:13 pm
So...another character that doesnŽt really belong into the whole Sekigahara setting? :rolleyes:

Though IŽd love to see Mitsuhide back...although heŽd probably change drastically...meh. :mellow:
...Have you ever read about him before? Tenkai is a perfect choice for a game focusing on Sekigahara and the events around it.
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And, for those who care, they said in the event that the anime's second season will start only in July. Which means the game probably won't be out until then too.
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The statement by Mitsuhide's voice actor might indeed be a sly reference to Tenkai, but could it also mean he might voice a entirely unrelated character? As in, he's the one to "transform" and not Mitsuhide.
I do wonder how a psycho like Mitsuhide could put on a convincing disguise, though. That oughta be good for laughs...

A July release, uh? If that means more time for adding content and "polishing", so be it. Better to wait a couple more months than complain about the game feeling unfinished. "Tempus Fugit". We'll be there before we know it.
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I know about Tenkai, but he didnŽt fight in Sekigahara.

As IŽve said, before characters like Tsuruhime or Tenkai, they should add characters like Kobayakawa Hideaki, Todo Takatora, Ukita Hideie, Hosokawa Tadaoki, Mogami Yoshiaki, Shima Sakon, etc.

Though IŽd like to see a "TenkaiŽd" Akechi Mitsuhide...since I canŽt really imagine that :lol:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:52 pm.
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:51 pm
I know about Tenkai, but he didnŽt fight in Sekigahara.

As IŽve said, before characters like Tsuruhime or Tenkai, they should add characters like Kobayakawa Hideaki, Todo Takatora, Ukita Hideie, Hosokawa Tadaoki, Mogami Yoshiaki, Shima Sakon, etc.

Though IŽd like to see a "TenkaiŽd" Akechi Mitsuhide...since I canŽt really imagine that :lol:
Who can, especially from what we've seen of him in Basara? :XD

I actually would love to see Tenkai appear in Basara 3. It definitely will be interesting :shifty:
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Hm, I have mixed feelings about Tenkai. On one hand, from the little I know about him he seems like an interesting addition to the cast. But if he were to make an appearance I don't want him to be Mitsuhide in disguise. Mostly because I enjoy Mitsuhide's Basara incarnation and I don't think he needs to be changed. After all, from what I understand, there's no proof that Tenkai was Mitsuhide.

Secondly, I want to echo DK's oppinion. There's already several important characters to be added that have an actual role in Sekigahara, so I would rather those characters get priority, if this game really is to be centered around Sekigahara as stated. But then again, the majority of them may already be in the cast, and we just don't know about it yet. In any case, I hope we get some new information this week.
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Balder beat me to the punch, but yeah, everyone is sort of glossing over the idea that maybe he just meant he had to transform his own voice in order to play another character, any character which may have nothing to do at all with Mitsuhide.
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I've been keeping up with what's been going on this past week, but I haven't been able to post 'til now. Yay, I get to catch up on........pretty much nothing.

Kanbei voice, meh, I could care less. Buying US version, so I ain't gonna hear it anyway. And ooh, a bunch of Yoshitsugu fanboys ***** about his portrayal in a video game that replaces historical accuracy with crack-induced violence. I think my response should be self-explanatory.

@Xanxus: The problem that people here are having is less focused on the consistency of updates, and more focused on the content. Yes, there is a good amount of time left, but not that much time. Soon, Japanese release date's gonna be around the corner, and Capcom's gonna have to step up their game.

And can someone please explain who Tenkai is?
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@Xanxus: The problem that people here are having is less focused on the consistency of updates, and more focused on the content. Yes, there is a good amount of time left, but not that much time. Soon, Japanese release date's gonna be around the corner, and Capcom's gonna have to step up their game.

And can someone please explain who Tenkai is?
Well I say poeple have to stop concentrating on the content so much. Its fine that someone values Character reveals highly and everything else is mere crap to them, but this is what we have to deal with. When a game gets announced you have to expect some long droughts of no info and some info you may not appreciate. There is only so much info to show, and they're keeping it pretty consistent with an update every week. And since the unveiling of this game was a full year before its release, it was garunteed that we would see this. I know it can get stressful but you just have to wait, each week brings us something new and we are closer to the release date. Plus there is a good 5-6 months left in the release. That is tonnes of time to reveal info. That is how long the game has been announced. ;) So Expect about twice as many characters than we have currently. And the other info, the info people seem to care much less about will come later in snippets. xD

The Tenkai Legend is that Akechi Mitsuhide survived Yamazaki and lived his life as a priest under the name of Tenkai. He later became a part of the eastern side During Sekigahara.

Its just a legend, and its very debatable, so that makes it perfect for Basara xD

it would be really cool, but I get the feeling that Mitsuhide's seiyuu just meant he is getting another role in this game.
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LadyGetsuei,
Indeed it was a rather blunt way to illustrate that the group in question should find better ways to pass time. It was not my intention to pass it off as mysoginistic remark. But yes, it was rather crude, I admit it. So much that like a hole in Silent Hill, it's gone now.
My sincerest apologies if I have offended you, or anyone else for that matter, in any way and my promise of being more thoughtful in the future.
Forgiven and forgotten already ^_^ . Its done and over with but thank you for apologizing. Lets shake hands and get back to the discussion on hand. Just be a eensy weensy bit more careful of what you type :)

Anyway, on topic. If Mitsuhide's voice actor said he is going to "transform and get into the game" there are a lot of possibilities going through my head.

1. That could mean Garasha could be in the game and she will have a lot of flashbacks in the game about him. And midway through the game she might have revived him somehow. Of course he wouldn't be playable and he would only appear in her gaiden mode. She could have a huge a** three-bladed scythe that could literally reap people, like everytime the scythe hits a peon you could see their soul leaving their body. She could have a dissiocative personality disorder or shizophrenia(sp?). You know like having a nice christian side and a evil as sh*t reaper side.

2.Nankobo Tenkai ,you are all saying, is a possibility. If I'm not mistaken Tenkai was suspected to be Mitsuhide in disguise as historians weren't sure if Akechi died at Yamazaki so he was suspected to become a priest under the name Tenkai, correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Its been a while since I read about Tenkai

3.Akechi Mitsuyoshi or Mitsuharu. Hell even Hidemitsu could be in. Whichever one might be included could be a crazy phycopath that is a sadomasochist just like Mitsuhide. They would want revenge for their father's murder, ('cept Mitsuharu, being his cousin and all). If Garasha isn't in they would have the three-bladed scythe. Hell I could even see them looking like Hidan from Naruto (including the scythe). Like Garasha's gaiden idea halfway through the gaiden Mitsuhide could be revived or be in a lot of flashbacks.

Crazy ideas, I know. I would elaborate on it more but I need to take a break from typing.

Hmmm maybe I (or anyone for that matter) should make a topic on this. What Mitsuhide's seiyuu (whose name escapes me for some reason, which is unusual seeing as I usually remember big name seiyuu's names') said is very mysterious and could hint a lot of things hmmmmmmm :/ .

Edit: I just read Xanxus's post after I posted, so I see I was right about Mitsuhide being suspected to be Tenkai.
Edited by So Nyuh Shi Dae, Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:44 pm.
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yea thats what i think he only meant he was playing another characters seiyu but tenkai is my fav onimusha character so it would be cool to have him in SB3


i also want to see a sumo wrestler like maybe mataichiro but he was a good bodygaurd in SWXL2 or a fire ninja i like rokuro too



ohhh and does anybody have a link to that new trailer
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Mitsuhide's voice actor returns?

Hehehe, the plot thickens! :hehe:

Any way, the way I see it, it could make perfect sense for BASARA Mitsuhide's character to end up like this. In a lot of his various storylines, it usually ends with Mitsuhide slaying Nobunaga n the crew, then..."nobody ever seen or heard from him again."

So, assuming Mitsuhide didn't meet an end at the likes of Hideyoshi's hands, that would leave him plenty of time to possibly mellow out, and eventually transform into Tenkai. Seeing how he fulfilled his heart's desire for that one "banquet" he wanted so much, that could be all the reason for him to put down the scythes and maybe become something similar to "normal".

As proposed above, maybe this might be the means that Gracia could be introduced. A daughter who is blissfully unaware of the things that perhaps her Daddy did in his "past life", even though the original darkness that was a part of Mitsuhide's character is definitely within her, too. :hehe:

Any way, this could be all very interesting. Especially since, the "batshit insane murderer" was only half of what made Mitsuhide so interesting. The other part was how he was able to see through people in a brilliant yet aloof way, possibly to a point that may surpass Hisahide.

So, could be very to see how this works out...hopefully Koba won't disappoint.
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Perhaps they'll add Gracia, but give her Mitsuhide's VA. That would be lulful.
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ohhh and does anybody have a link to that new trailer


I don't think it's on the internet yet. We may have to wait a while :/

Hayami-san as Garasha? What? :blink:

Wonder if famitsu will have any info this week? We haven't had anything Basara related the last few issues.
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I really hope Gracia is added into the game. However, since she is a christian and woman of faith don't expect her going around being evil like mitsuhide was, cause thats not how a christian should act. Also, i expect her to have a petite, magical weapon, not some extra large 3 headed scythe thingy. lol :rolleyes:
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Looks like in the event it is also mentioned that the Maeda couple is confirmed to be alive and appearing in SB3. But anyway, the people at 2ch are also having the same hunch. Most likely only one of them might stay as a PC, with a worst case scenario of both of them turning NPCs.

Regarding the Tenkai speculation though, I don't have much to say about that, since I'm more into hoping Gracia to be added here along with the Hosokawa clan. But then again they didn't explicitly show how Mitsuhide got killed in the manga, did they?
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Regarding the Mitsuhide thing, Kobayashi was reported saying this at the event:

"His spirit will live on in SB3".

So if we take the seiyuu's "I will transform and be in the game" as to mean that Mitsuhide himself will transform....


I'm going with Gracia, peoples. Having Tenkai around would make it difficult to make return Mitsuhide in the later games anyway....

*dreams about a scythe wielding goth-ish girl laughing like Mitsuhide"

I better cross my fingers here....
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Having Tenkai around would make it difficult to make return Mitsuhide in the later games anyway....

*dreams about a scythe wielding goth-ish girl laughing like Mitsuhide"

I better cross my fingers here....
Not if he's a reskin. Then Tenkai can just be an alt costume or something in other games.


Hey, I'm all for gothlolis, though. :wub:
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Soryy guy's I have been a bit off to the BASARA news...i asume that nothing new has come since Tsuruhime, Kanbei and SHimazu???

Sorry for offtopic....
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:03 pm
dreams about a scythe wielding goth-ish girl laughing like Mitsuhide
That's what I've been saying people! :D
And with the Christianity pretext, she can be fashionably "westernized" with a Gothic-Lolita attire. Suigintou rip-off anyone?

Anyway, isn't this now the second character (the first being Nagamasa) whose "spirit" will live on in SB3?
ChaCha AND Gracia? :OMG:
*braces for eventual disappointment*

Anyway, maybe in a week or so we might get silhouettes of the Maeda couple. I think that by that time we'll know their fate.
I hope both are playable, it would be cruel to divorce such a happy couple against their will.


Jonathan Joestar,
Those were the last characters announced.
So far, it's been updates like screenshots and voice files of already confirmed characters. There's also the gameplay videos of Yoshitsugu and Magoichi, but I assume you saw those in the KW main site...
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