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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| murakumo | Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:19 pm Post #3451 |
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I'd love if all of Oichi's daughters made it in. They could be like rivals for Garasha (assuming she's the psycho little goth loli we desire )But if only Chacha/Yodo is available then we could work with that, since Nene is dead. She could either be madly in love with Hideyoshi or resent him for his cruelty. Depending on her feelings for him she could join either side. And I agree that if the Maeda's are included, either they should both be playable or both NPCs. Like Balder said, it would be sad if they were split up. I'd also like to see Katsuie Shibata, even if he's a bit before the times. But story-relevant characters first. Are you listening, Kobapii? |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:15 pm Post #3452 |
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yea i think story relevant characters first like ukita,todo,or shima and then add some non sekigahara related characters like hanzo i really want hanzo |
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| Manta Punk | Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:25 pm Post #3453 |
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We've been throwing this gothic loli Gracia idea around for a while now and it'll definitely be interesting if this is what Koba and crew have planned. Now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps Tenkai would be too awkward. Say if some fans get attached his character, yet in future when Mitsuhide is sure to appear, how would they get round that? Sure, Tenkai's design could act as Mitsuhide's alt, but I'm assuming their personalities would be totally different... Also, if Tenkai's add nullifies Gracia's chances, I'm not too keen on his appearance anymore. Gracia would be great if our ideas are on target. Preaching about christianity, yet has her father's "hunger". Not to mention her interactions with Zabii (assuming hes in) would be interesting to say the least. I also wonder what Chacha's chances truly are. Koba was pretty secretive about Oichi, especially when he could have blatantly announced "Shes out!". Personally, I wouldn't have been that surprised if she was cut, especially during that time we only thought important Sekigahara generals were going to make it. But now with Tsuru, I'm beginning to think we might see Oichi, and maybe she'll be the one to comment on Nagamasa. I'd love to see Chacha as much as the next guy, but I'm not getting my hopes up ![]() I'd love to have them both. Oichi's mothering personality would be refreshing and a nice break from her gloomyness. Chacha, with the Oda darkness and the Azai light would be beyond words. Great to have the Maeda's officially announed for the party! I still have that uneasy feeling though. Well, now that Kobas revealed them, I suppose its not too long until we see them. Next batch I'm betting, and my anxiousness will finally be put to rest, regardless of the outcome... Well, I wonder if we'll see anything this week. If not, surly next week. Not too long now guys! |
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| Claus | Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:57 pm Post #3454 |
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And If not next week... MARCH 25th!!!! :D Well, its nice to have the Maeda's confirmed. And as long as I can play as one of them I'm cool. Theose two together creates a great atmosphere and thy're good for comedic value, so If one isn't playable its no big deal, one can tell the story for the other. But if both Toshi and Matsu aren't playable.... Well that would just blow now wouldn't it? =/ Gothicloli Graica for the fraking win! :D Kenetecism's(spelling?) idea for Graica is just not for me. IMO turning her into supeh nice magical Lioi would kill the character and I wouldn't touch her. Also making her like that would be wasting such a great oppurtunity for a crazy little demonic Girl... which we all know is one of the most awesome character traits... EVER. |
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| Ouelis | Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:10 pm Post #3455 |
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I can certainly see Gracia as a gothic loli but at the same time, I'm not entirely sold on the idea of her weapon being a scythe. It does fit, and I can't deny that it's a very attractive choice as a weapon, the fact that her father wielded two just seems a bit two little to me. I suppose if it were huge it would work better in my mind but I would rather see something a bit different. Maybe something a bit less...sophisticated? Like maybe a simple two foot-long spike. But if I were to go a bit more strange would like to see her wield a small hammer and a nail in that classic grudge/curse style, with the nail as the main weapon. I know that Oichi has in a way already taken that kind of flavour, but still I would feel it I really hope we get some news this week, especially about the Maedas. I'm a bit torn about them. On one hand, it just seems sad to drive a disruptive "N" between the happy couple by making only one of them playable. But I would certainly take one instead of none. The question is who? Matsu would be a very welcome inclusion, but at the same time I have a huge soft spot for Toshiie. Guess I'll just have to hope for the best. |
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| Claus | Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:19 pm Post #3456 |
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Well, I'm not too keen on a scythe myself I mean her father already weilds two, her having one big one just feels a little copy+paste to me, just the weapon though, the move set wouldn't be copied or even similar at all.Personally I would like her to use either Puppets (heh, that would be my absolute perferred choice ) and not just any puppets, little demonic ones too, or freakishly long mettalic claws that she could use for peircing and heart ripping-out-like attacks.
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| robotzombie | Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:23 am Post #3457 |
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The new famitsu scores are out, which means the mag leaked, but I can't find a topic of it on neogaf and I dont really know where else people look for the leaks. So if anyone does know, start checkin around to see if there's any Basara goodness (probably not, as usual) |
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| BlackKite | Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:33 am Post #3458 |
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Well, since the Jump SQ which publishes SB3 manga said that next issue will also have new game info, and that it is published in the first week of the month, that means if we don't get new info this week, it's definitely next week. That being said, I'm also extending my tolerance level to next week, when the obvious should happen.
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:09 am Post #3459 |
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Oh, that's great to hear....will we get another 3 characters? I surely hope so.... The NPCs introduced will probably the Maedas then....? |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:32 am Post #3460 |
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and then HANZO HATTORI well i really hope so
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| wodash | Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:29 am Post #3461 |
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tenkai would satisfy "i'm the ones behind the scenes of sekigahara!" thing that people buzzes around,without reviving matsunaga in the "future timeline" his weapon could be ike a combination of oichi's concept+mitsuhide's weapon,so he starts with a monk staff which in several moves can split into his old twin scythes,plus a second S string,which is his "mitsuhide" one,wielding the scythes 24/7(until hit/skill time over,like all other 2nd S strings in the game) unlike matsunaga,tenkai can waltz around and talk with the characters while keeping a secret of his true identity so yeah,tenkai FTW..... |
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| Keneticam | Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:09 am Post #3462 |
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WTF! Gracia is a christian for crying out loud. Do u know nothing about her history? WTH would she be summoning demons and using super dark sadistic scythes for? Huh...u people are rediculous! They would have no reason to present Gracia as some sadistic demon spawn of mitsuhide. If anything, I could imagine her character resenting her father for being so evil and her weapon of choice being a Book or a crucifix of some sort that emits magical powers. A strongly devoted christian running around acting and dressing like a goth carrying a large demonic scyth couple with her demonic powers. HAH! Give me a break!
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| Claus | Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 am Post #3463 |
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So every christian is a world loving nice person who would never hurt anyone and is a good well spirtited person? Give me a break. Ever heard of the crusades? Ever heard of those christians who believe in world Genocide? Not every christian is a good person, there are sick people everywhere no matter what religion they're a part of. And yeah, I for one know lots about her history, I have an entire 300+page book all about her and the Hosakawa clan, And I'm sure a few other people here know lots about her history aswell. The reason why she would be a demonic crazy girl is because Mitsuhide is her FATHER! Have you even played the other games? Anyone with his blood is gaurunteed some crazy in them, I mean Oichi is just Nobunaga's sister and even she has some demonic stuff about her. Whatever, I just think DemonicFun Loli would be a way for interesting character that A Do-good-earth-Loving joke. This is Basara, history barely means anything, they don't even have to make her a Christian. |
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| So Nyuh Shi Dae | Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:41 am Post #3464 |
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Keneticam, THIS.IS.BASARA. Anything can happen. Unlike SW, this game hardly follows history. Yes Koba could make her a sadistic,reaping killer. Or he could make her a sweet wittle Christian stereotype thats all happy-go-lucky. Its all his and the Basara teams' choice. Not yours, not mine's, not anybody's. To me the gothloli sadist Gracia is a LOT more interesting than another goody-two-shoes. And like I stated in my last post she could have a dissiocative personality disorder. One minute she could be all nice and holy, then the next minute she could be just like her father. So,uh, yeah history doesn't exactly play out in this game. And FYI yes I have read her history.Plenty of times really. You DO know that she was baptized and became Christian at age 24. In this game she could be 30 or 19 or 13. We don't know. And even if she was 24 like we all know this game follows hardly any history, so yeah. Along with that. If they turned Mitsuhide, who is usually depicted as the kind charming hero into the one man you'll NEVER want to meet. They can sure as hell make Gracia the holy-and-sweet Zabii mini-me into the she-devil. Personally I want a mix of both. Half-Christian half-sadomasochist. Either way as long as she's in, regardless if she'll be good or evil, I'll still play as her. Because, like Keneticam, I love Gracia too . So bring on the GraciaMcLovin Koba.
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| Flashbang Incentive | Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:45 am Post #3465 |
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And then......A new redone Musashi and a Kojiro who matches my design idea.......and, oh sorry. Better stop now..... |
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| BlackKite | Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:57 am Post #3466 |
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Well it's confirmed. No SB3 in this week's Famitsu. Looking forward to next week. |
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| Balder | Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:26 am Post #3467 |
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That reminds me of the Sparda sword in DMC1 which shifted between sword, spear and scythe depending on the move used. And on the Gracia debate, well, Basara takes the "loose" in "loose adaptation" to a impressive degree, giant Hideyoshi should be sufficient proof of it (though it's a very accurate portrayal, symbolically speaking, and perhaps the same could be said of Mitsuhide as well, if we believe the theories about the motives for his betrayal being less than noble...) LadyGetsuei, I agree with the dissociative personality disorder idea, to which I would add heterochromia for optimal aesthetic cue. Sorry people, I got crummy ideas and am not afraid to post 'em! Anyway, looks like next week's the real deal most likely. Brace for impact ladies and gentlemen. We're getting big news and I'm crossing fingers we'll all like them. |
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| Keneticam | Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:49 am Post #3468 |
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Well....i guess u guys make some valid points...this is however how i imagine Gracia if she were added. Garasha Hosokawa Age: Mid 20s Gender: Female(DUH!) Bio: Devoted Christian and daughter of Mitsuhide Akechi. When all is said and done she joins the Eastern Forces against Mitsunari at Sekigahara. Personality: She is very sympathetic towards others emotions and has a very wise and understanding mind. However, she resents her father for how sadistic he was and fears that some of his sadistic spirit resides within her and she sometimes has an sinful urges and "dark" tendencies(And the plot thickens ).Weapon: Crucifix Charm(Holy Magic), and Spell Book(Black Magic, which she uses when she feels controlled by "darkness") Appearance: Not sure! |
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:11 am Post #3469 |
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Christians can be quite the evil folk, if you don't agree with him, and some are more extreme then others. I mean, Spanish Inquisition, anyone? Gothic psycho, bent-to-kill everyone who doesn't agree with her Gracia would fit, I'd think. Or she can have a split personality. To say 'all Christians' are good, little angels if a lie, and I can attest to that! I mean, I'm Roman Catholic! |
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| Manta Punk | Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:50 am Post #3470 |
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No matter, next week isn't that far off! I'm sure, if Koba is feeling like a nice guy, we may even see a trailer in the site update tomorrow, but which one? Jump Festa or the opening? Well, in any case, along with Tsuru's voice, the update may be able to hold us until the dawning of our new batch. Plus, if we do indeed get the opening, we may finally be able to hear 'Naked arms' ![]() My predictions for next week: --PCs-- Ukita Hideie or Mogami Yoshiaki Gracia or Mogami Yoshiaki (providing we get Hideie instead) Matsu --NPCs-- Maeda Toshiie (sadly )Zabii I may be waaaay off, but my moneys still on it. Hopefully, after this batch, Koba will keep it to a nice 4 week system. Though, something in my gut says he won't... |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:59 am Post #3471 |
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Gracia could be very well a demon. I´m all for the split personality cliche anime type. You know were the one half of the character is kind, caring and cute and the other half is a sadisitc, blood loving killing machine. She could be handled like two-face from Batman were one half looks like an angel and one like a devil. And I like Xanxus´ idea of her fighting with puppets. The left puppet is an angel and the right is a little demon. (also a Sasori fan, ain´t we, Xansus? ) My prediction for next week: Either nothing, again, or we finally get to see Mogami Yoshiaki, Matsu and for the NPCs Toshiie and Ujimasa. Like MP, I could be very off with my prediction, but I´m all for some Yoshiaki action
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| necrosis | Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:40 am Post #3472 |
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Someone is complaining about artistic license in a series that is nothing but artistic license? What amazing double standards. But that's to be expected from a stone that fell from the moon.
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:00 pm Post #3473 |
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Keneticam, I kind of understand your arguments but...Xanxus, Lady and Gingi already explained it better than I could, and well...just look at Zabii. I honestly would prefer they just ignored the whole christianity thing and make her a complete demon, or anything else...I'd feel more annoyed by an half-assed christian portrayal than anything else. Let religion out of games, I say. They did a good thing in making Zabii a semi-fictional character, after all... So, let's start speculating people! Assuming we'll get 3 characters and 2 NPCs next time, who are they gonna be? As there was no apparent connection between Tsuru, Kurokan and Yoshihiro it's safe to suppose that the next ones could be unconnected as well. Here's my idea: Hosokawa Gracia (event alert) Ukita Hideie (for the west) Miyamoto Musashi / Fuuma Kotaro? (not sure, but there aren't many other possibly returning characters, are they...Matsunaga would make the update too explosive!) NPCs: Toshiie & Matsu. OR, if they add 3 chars and only one NPC, Hojo Ujimasa (paired with Kotaro) What do you think? I wanted to put Tadaoki in too, but I'm afraid the no-same-surname rule will screw with him.... |
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| BlackKite | Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:02 pm Post #3474 |
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Well, as for Tadaoki, I believe there's still a possibility for him. They could always put Gracia in without the surname (ガラシャ), so probably that rule shouldn't affect him.
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| Kiheiji | Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:14 pm Post #3475 |
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Just "Gracia" instead "of "Hosokawa Gracia" won't be too bothering, I say. Well, here's my prediction for next week: 2 new PCs, 1 old PC, 2 old characters being NPCs or 2 NPCs with one being a newbie. I'm not sure who's who though. |
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well i really hope so
Gracia is a christian for crying out loud. Do u know nothing about her history? WTH would she be summoning demons and using super dark sadistic scythes for? Huh...u people are rediculous!
Give me a break!

. So bring on the GraciaMcLovin Koba.




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