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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,196 Views)
Ouelis
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April huh? Lovely <_< . Not that I'm surprised though. Frankly I don't even care that much anymore. Getting rabid about it isn't going to make the time pass any faster after all. The only thing that really annoys me is that I'm eating out of Koba's hand. Even if there's only 19 characters, and only one play mode or whatever, I'm still going to get SB3 first day since it's one of my favorite franchises. So I can't really denounce Koba and his antics as hard as my raging emotions ask.

Stiff upper lip dames and gents. For now, I'm just going to try to stop obsessing about this for a while and lay my attention elsewhere while Koba and his team continue their work. It's not like I don't have other games to play in the meantime anyway, and March has several titles on the way that I have my eyes on.
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That's gonna be a huge dissapointment...April?? PFFFFFF...i hope that atleast will be a greatBatch of news....Good that i pick Darksiders...
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well, for now, let´s hope we´ll get Tsuru´s and Kurokan´s video with the next two NPC voice updates.

Plus I´ve subbed the Sengoku BASARA 3 Story Trailer (thanks again for the translation, NDY ;) ):



Just if someone wants to put it somewhere were a lot of people can watch AND understand what is being said in it :whistle:

EDIT:

Just finished subbing Maggie´s video:

Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Mar 4, 2010 4:27 pm.
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Ouelis
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Well, for now, let´s hope we´ll get Tsuru´s and Kurokan´s video with the next two NPC voice updates.

Plus I´ve subbed the Sengoku BASARA 3 Story Trailer (thanks again for the translation, NDY ;) ):


Well, first we'll probably see the opening that was shown recently. But I have to say that I BADLY want to see Kurokan's gameplay video so I hope we'll get it sometime this month.

Thanks for the subtitled trailer DK. And of course to NDY for the translation. Also, thanks for going out and getting that JQ info for us NDY ^_^ .
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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No problem, it wasn't wrapped so I could read it without buying it (hehehe...in your face, 7/11 oldbags!)

Good work there DK! If we keep it up like this we're doing a better marketing job than Koba himself, at least in the west!

I too want badly a Kurokan vid...so badly.....
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Here are the subbed videos of Yoshitsugu:



Yukimura:



And Masamune:



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Manta Punk
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I won't rage. Its as Ouelis said, getting mad won't make time fly any quicker. I suppose what dissapoints me most, is that Koba wasn't even generous enough to give us a silhouette to keep us happy. I'm not sure what his game plan is, but recently, I can't help but think hes truly trying to rile us up. :/

I mean, the last batch we saw was during January, and now we wont be seeing more info 'til April? Koba, this is my only question: Why did you bother to announce a game a year before its release, when you clearly don't have enough material to keep the "casual" fans from loosing interest?

Heck, some of us happly smiled through the draught of the Yoshi-Maggie batches, because we knew the end result would be worth it. But now, I'm just guessing we ain't getting as much content as we thought. A 2 month wait? Thats just low...

Anyway, thanks to DK and NDY for the subbed videos! At least the site update was decent over all as well. It may just be me, but as anyone else noticed Kanbei's armour under his coat has changed colour? In the CG, its a sorta golden-brown, but in th event pics, its clearly black...

Also, joining in on the Off topicness, I'm finally a man at age 18 :sly:
P.S - NDY, have you tried Dragon Quest V? Its a great RPG, and probably my favourite DS and DQ game.

EDIT - Heh, with Yoshihro rivaling Kanbei, mayhaps Hondam will be recieving a new sparring partner...?
Edited by Manta Punk, Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:20 pm.
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NDY and DK,
Thanks for the subbed videos. T'were better than most official updates we get.
On a side note, I get the feeling Yoshitsugu, despite his condition, won't be the sympathetic villain type...

And indeed there's no point in being upset over trivial matters we cannot influence.
However, I am left with the doubt whether these erratic updates are intentional or not. Basically I wonder - is Koba a jerk or an idiot?
I mean, why not give just a pair off silhouettes to keep people talking?
As I mentioned before, Tsuruhime was a "poisoned present". We got a new character announced without warning, but I knew we'd be left without any significant updates for a good amount of time.

Ultimately, I think this relates to a discussion we had some pages before when NDY posted the Basara games' sales figures.
In my ignorance, I asked if Capcom might can the franchise if SB3 flopped, to which I was assured by more knowledgeable members of this illustrious board that Basara still made a lot of cash thanks to various paraphernalia.
Basically, I'm starting to think Koba knows where the big money comes from so he's more worried catering to the fujoshi than the people who'll just buy the game. Leading to assume his only concern regarding the game is just adding more pretty boys (I mean, Hanbei and Akechi aside, it's no coincidence the excluded are mostly fujoshi fetish retardant).

I guess this is a matter of professional ethics. If so, Koba needs to take a walk around the Capcom building and see his colleagues at the SF and RE dev teams.
Pardon this little rant but, assuming I'm right, I can't stand condescendence towards consumers/fans. I'm not saying he should be slave to our whims, but some consideration would be nice!
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Ouelis
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As I mentioned before, Tsuruhime was a "poisoned present". We got a new character announced without warning, but I knew we'd be left without any significant updates for a good amount of time.


Personally, I think it was even worse then that. For each normal batch, we got 4 characters. One was the revealed silhouette from the previous batch, one was the returning character we already knew about and the silhouettes always provided two more for a total of four. So logically speaking we actually got ripped off when we got only 3 characters in the Kanbei/Tsuru batch.

I'm going to go ahead and play devil's advocate for a moment here. I'm not defending the fact that we are getting jerked around by this whole process but the thing is we don't have any idea what's going on inside that building. For all I know, they might be in a mad scramble right now trying to get everything together. Sure, it sucks that we suffer in this rather annoying roller-coaster of a development schedule but I feel that we should reserve judgment until the game is finally released. Because frankly, we don't really know what to expect. Maybe there's close to no characters left in the game? Or perhaps the final two months coming up on the release we'll see a flood if information? My point is; who knows? Let's just try to calm down a bit and realize that there's still a fair amount of time left, and for that matter, is there really any reason to feed us anything yet anyway? Sure, it would stoke the fire in the hype train a bit more, but isn't that a preferable strategy when the game is actually nearing release rather than almost 6 months before that?

Trying to find a pattern in all this smacks me as just wasting your time. I wasn't part of the SW3 equivalent to this process but from what I understand Koei announced a great number of characters right at the end of the line right? What's there to say that this isn't happening right now as well?

Don't get me wrong this whole thing is working me up in a lather as well, but let's just stop for a moment, catch our breaths and think about this. That's all I have to say about it at the moment.

Can I ask a question to everyone here? Just what amount of content do you want in this game anyway? Personally, I've never been much for the multiple modes thing in games like Survival or Time Attack and such. As long as there's a somewhat engaging story mode and a free mode, I'm good. And sure, I'd be disappointed as well if the final rooster is around 19 characters, but it doesn't really annoy me to much. After all SB2 only had 21 playable characters right? I'd like more characters then that to be sure, but I'm just saying.

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P.S - NDY, have you tried Dragon Quest V? Its a great RPG, and probably my favourite DS and DQ game.


Hey, funny that you would mention that MP, I'm actually playing it right this moment ^_^ .
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Thu Mar 4, 2010 6:29 am
Thanks for the tip, rob! I think the same as you anyway...the only game that could ever top Basara for me is a proper sequel of the Suikoden series, and we know what Konami did with that.....
Wow, now you just spoke directly to my heart :D If there is one series that could get me more excited than Basara, it would be Suikoden. A proper S6 would be the greatest announcement I could ever hear. Its a shame what had to happen with Tierkreis and all...
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Well, I guess I am the only who still has their patience.( Don't flame, haven't read all of the posts before me if your not going to freak as well) But, Koba has let me down. We have been waiting for ever. I remember the first post I read here in the BASARA forum. DK- Hey, well while were getting little bits and pieces of info now, Koba has said that we will get ALOT of stuff in March.......the END OF MARCH (not sure if thats word for word) Now, it's here and we definetly got some info, that more info is coming in April ( and that info could be that more info is coming in May, or June) Well, anyway I will be staying here, if anybody else is at all........=(


So, for now I'm gonna keep my patience and not freak out about it. Didn't really have my hopes up that much anyway.........well, to anyone is gonna stay, um.......
the translated trailer is great and so I guess we did get something new right=)

One of the reasons I am not really mad right now is probably because I..........AM.......ABOUT TO GET............................YAKUZA 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MARCH 9th

Knowing what the story trailer said, I just got my hype back up. Honestly, this game has a great story. I am all for the seriousness.
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Fri Mar 5, 2010 1:37 am.
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well those vids are nice i can finally understand them but im starting to get tired with this so im gonna start posting on SF 2 but im always gonna love SB so when we get some big news which i think you guys said in april ill BE BACK lol so see ya!!
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hmm,april is still quite far away...so off topicness will crowd the board for a while i guess

BK is 20?! and he was a "senior" in about any message board i've seen him in,okay,NOW i feel old......

@HnBen:well if you squint REALLY hard around the web and had more than 2++GB ish space in your disk you can pretty much play BB:CS in YOUR PC for a while now.....
i dunno if that kind of talk and link is allowed here so if you want the links just PM me :XD


@NDY:well,ace attorney investigations?that's the only DS game that i play in these few days,haven't played any other DS games after i bought a PSP(but perhaps you've already played the JP version i guess),i was really hoping they'll release a US version of saihai but i guess its a no no...........
Edited by wodash, Fri Mar 5, 2010 3:05 am.
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Jonathan Joestar
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Thanks for the subbed videos!!!!!
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Thanks for the subs. I'm not going to bother getting angry, probably concentrate my energy elsewhere. I agree that Koba should at least give us something to talk about, I can't understand the lack of sillouhettes...
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well here are:

Mitsunari´s subbed video:



Ieyasu´s subbed video:


The SB3 characters trailer subbed:


PLUS a little bonus, I know it´s late, but all of Oichi´s gaiden cutscenes subbed:

Part 1:


Part 2:

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Yay! finally got to use my "Oichi Exploitable". :P
Seriously, many thanks for the subbed SB2H story. For a humble non-japanese speaking commoner, t'was very much appreciated.
Understanding the language or not, I always love that cutscene when she snaps for good (you know, before chopping Noh and Ranmaru into confetti).

Ouelis,
To answer your question, my expectations are similar to yours - Story and Free Mode and it's all good for little old me!
I expect the game to have those, plus Unification and some "gimmicky" mode like the Tournament that people usually don't play but have to in order to unlock stuff.
As for character numbers, I expect the game AT LEAST matches Basara 2 in terms of playable characters. But I think 25 would be a reasonable figure.
Edited by Balder, Sat Mar 6, 2010 4:53 am.
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Thanks for adding the subs DK. I made a playlist with all the trailers and been sending it to friends to get them hype, lol. Already working too, doing some 2H coop this weekend with some friends who never played SB before ^__^. Eventually I'm build some huge Orlando SB community, at least that is my goal lol.
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Well, I must keep on thanking you for the subbed videos, they 're great! I also must agree with Quelis. I also never really like the extra modes like time trials or whatever, especially in a hack n' slash game. So, all I want is Free Mode, Tournament Mode (Daibudokai mode), Story Mode, and a branching story mode. I think it would be cool if they separated them because then you could make things happen that really didn't in the normal story mode. Like saving someone from dieing, changing the rest of the story. (That would be some work though) If they brought that in then I would most certainly forgive them for not giving us any info. That would be really cool. i would hugely prefer that over that over Koei's way of changing the story. Which is- If you play as one character, the story totally different then when you play as someone else, or there would be two characters in a battle at the end of the story, this battle would be in of the characters story, but isn't even mentioned in the other character's story. ( In SW2's case, the battle of Edo Castle, Musashi and Yukimura must Hediyori Toyotomi to the escape point. This is a big battle in Musashi's story, but ins't even mentioned in Yukimura's story.
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Laughing contest, the Oda family's greatest passtime event. Both are equally terrifying as they are a little annoying. Seriously, just fight each other, your laughter grinds on my nerves.

Crazy lunatics.

Honestly, though, this Oichi seemed much more entertaining that SW2/3 Oichi. Anything's better than 'woe is me, destiny cannot be changed' garbage, even if it meant killing poor Nouhime and Ranmaru. Some sacrifices for character have to be made, I suppose.
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Well, I must say I like Basara's Oichi more than SW's Oichi. Cooler design, more badass weapon, deadlier moves (those dark hands, just lovely). Not to mention she is hotter here. Overall, my favourite female character.

Hope she will be in SB3. I'll be sad if she wouldn't.
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Sat Mar 6, 2010 9:11 pm
Honestly, though, this Oichi seemed much more entertaining that SW2/3 Oichi. Anything's better than 'woe is me, destiny cannot be changed' garbage, even if it meant killing poor Nouhime and Ranmaru. Some sacrifices for character have to be made, I suppose.
Which is exactly what SW3 Oichi is NOT. :/

I have to say it bothers me when I go to lengths to explain how much better SW3 Oichi ihas improved over her SW2 incarnation and I still see people saying this.

My rating: SW3 Oichi > SB Oichi >>> SW2 Oichi

I'm giving SB Oichi a bit of a pass here, because she rather annoys me with her personality/lines when I try playing as her in SB2H. Definitely not a Matsu-tier female for me.
Edited by SRS, Sat Mar 6, 2010 9:47 pm.
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Sat Mar 6, 2010 9:11 pm
Honestly, though, this Oichi seemed much more entertaining that SW2/3 Oichi. Anything's better than 'woe is me, destiny cannot be changed' garbage, even if it meant killing poor Nouhime and Ranmaru. Some sacrifices for character have to be made, I suppose.
Which is exactly what SW3 Oichi is NOT. :/

I have to say it bothers me when I go to lengths to explain how much better SW3 Oichi ihas improved over her SW2 incarnation and I still see people saying this.

My rating: SW3 Oichi > SB Oichi >>> SW2 Oichi
Actually, I meant only SW2. I think I had a serious typo when writing my post (which, given my state of mind at the moment, isn't too faretched) and hadn't noticed that until you pointed it out.

Still, leagues better than SW2 Oichi. She disgusts me, even without SW3 or SB comparisons.
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Thanks for adding the subs DK. I made a playlist with all the trailers and been sending it to friends to get them hype, lol. Already working too, doing some 2H coop this weekend with some friends who never played SB before ^__^. Eventually I'm build some huge Orlando SB community, at least that is my goal lol.
You got Orlando? Haha, I've already got Tampa and Sun City accounted for.

Now all we need is Tallahassee and we've got Florida hooked :shifty:

Thanks for the great subs DK. Got me lovin' Oichi more and more. I want her in the game, but I want ChaCha too. As playable characters. But I got a feeling in my stomach that Oichi will be playable. Thats good, but a slight letdown for ChaCha.

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Final Fantasy 13 comes out in Tuesday!!!!!!! AH! I'm soooo freakin excited. Anyone else getting the game. I swear if I get this game AND SB3...my social life is over :ph43r: .

How funny would it be if April's SB3 info said we'd get a batch in May. I'd laugh(Oichi style) :XD ......Then I'd cry :sad: .
*sigh* in fact my whole reaction would be just like Oichi's in her ending :ph43r: .
Edited by So Nyuh Shi Dae, Sun Mar 7, 2010 3:10 am.
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Sun Mar 7, 2010 3:07 am
How funny would it be if April's SB3 info said we'd get a batch in May.
Don't you be jinxing this game more than it already is!
Besides, Koba might actually read this topic and...OH SHI- :lol:


Nagao Kiheiji,
Subscribed on the Oichi debate. That, and bearing in mind how miserable she must have been in real life, her representation in Basara feels a bit more "accurate" to me.
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