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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,189 Views)
Matsunaga Hisahide
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After the long wait...and we didnīt even get something to look forward too. Not even a small hint. To make up for it, Koba, you better give us the release date of BASARA 3 too. :mellow:

Also, I bet itīs a character, whoīs design, even if we just have a shadow, would give him away the second we saw him.

+ maybe Koba wanted us to further guess who, out of the Maeda couple, gets the playable spot. Since if he shows a shadow of Matsu or Toshiie along with the new character, weīd knew who out of the two is playable :ph43r:

So my guess itīs, as NDY said, is Mogami Yoshiaki, the Maeda Couple and one more. I donīt know if itīs safe to assume that itīs Ukita Hideie, but Iīll just guess him.
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From all the little snips of information that's surfaced over the last couple of weeks, I think it's safe to assume that Yoshiaki will be the first newcomer, Matsu taking the spot of returning and representing the Maeda's and....maybe Gracia? The last one is anybody's guess I feel. Could be Ukita or someone representing the Amago or anything. I really hope we get wind of the batch in next weeks Famitsu.
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my guess is matsu as a returning PC and mogami,ukita, and shikanosuke for new PCs and toshiie for the NPC that would be two thumbs up for me :D
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On the Hanzo disscussion, I feel that they should spice up his character model, make him have some little spikes along his clothing, and give him something of a ninja gaiden feel, I think that would work.

NDY, we could see something about what Mitsuhide's seiyuu said, right? He soaid the he would "reform" or something like that.
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:57 pm.
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I ran through conquest mode as Toshiie today, made me really want him to be playable. I probably shouldn't have done that because I know its not going to happen. If it's anyone its going to be Matsu...
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From the way you're speaking, it seems that Yoshiaki has been pretty much confirmed for the beginning of April. Is this just general consensus, or was there a leak of some sort?
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From the way you're speaking, it seems that Yoshiaki has been pretty much confirmed for the beginning of April. Is this just general consensus, or was there a leak of some sort?
Well, Yoshiaki has been confirmed for awhile, so its just pure speculation, Many people were convinced Kanbei was Yoshiaki for the same reason.

Personally I hope we don't see Yoshiaki for a long while, because the longer he is withheld, the longer we know there will always be more characters. :mellow:
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that Mitsuhide thing. The seiyuu (Hayami, right?) said he would "transform and get into the game", so the most likely possibilities are either Nankobo Tenkai or Hosokawa Gracia.

Personally I hope for the latter, we need more women anyway and she's got potential. Thanks to her character and her daddy.....

Quick summary, in order from strongly hinted to more vague:

Mogami Yoshiaki - Maeda Toshiie & Matsu

Tenkai/Gracia/? - Ukita char - Hojo/Fuuma - Satake char

Amago - Tokugawa retainer


Another week remains.....
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a man voicing gracia is possible?i mean magoichi was a title,gracia was a person.......just saying...

although if that happens its probably the most BASARA thing going on for this game so far.....
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Maybe Gracia is something...special?

You know a man...woman..."it".

Having no real gender, or at least itīs something you can barely tell. Also they gave Magoichi the XX chromosome, so it doesnīt really matter which gender they were in history, right? (even though there was a female Magoichi and it was just a name, most of the time it is assumed that the real and first one was a male)

Also with her...his...itīs daddy being a bit...weird...it would fit to have a non-gender character, right? Like Chrona from the Soul Eater manga/anime...I really thought she was a boy and even the translator of the manga thought she was a male...or Haku from Naruto...never thought heīd be a boy :XD
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:01 am.
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Or Graica will get possessed by Daddy and go local on everyone's ass. I'd much rather see that than a genderless person.
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:22 pm
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Would it be fair assumption to presume you're a fellow P4 fan? :)


Anyway, on the Man-Gracia issue, we're talking about the country that brought us Bridget, heck! the company that brought us Poison so anything's possible really, though I hope quite unlikely.
Besides, judging by those features, we all know Maggie's a man, anyway... *ducks incoming e-projectiles* :P

And I gotta agree with Akiro on the Yoshiaki issue. Time is starting to run short. We're either getting a bombardment of awesome updates or get a roster that barely meets what was promised.
Some have said before there's a chance some characters may go unnanounced, but I don't know about that since companies nowadays, and especially Capcom, tend to spoil absolutely everything before the game gets released. Which has gotten quite annoying recently, I must confess. Yes, RE5 trailers, I'm looking at you!
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Would it be fair assumption to presume you're a fellow P4 fan? :)


Anyway, on the Man-Gracia issue, we're talking about the country that brought us Bridget, heck! the company that brought us Poison so anything's possible really, though I hope quite unlikely.
Besides, judging by those features, we all know Maggie's a man, anyway... *ducks incoming e-projectiles* :P

And I gotta agree with Akiro on the Yoshiaki issue. Time is starting to run short. We're either getting a bombardment of awesome updates or get a roster that barely meets what was promised.
Some have said before there's a chance some characters may go unnanounced, but I don't know about that since companies nowadays, and especially Capcom, tend to spoil absolutely everything before the game gets released. Which has gotten quite annoying recently, I must confess. Yes, RE5 trailers, I'm looking at you!
jajaj You prsume well Balder :sly:


If Gracia is posesed by his father...something Like Amakusa of Samurai Spirits????

I really are waiting the next batch of info, when is the Tsusu Video going Out????
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Itīs coimg out this week, on thursday, with the usual update.

Jsun will the rip the video and upload it on youtube (arigato for that ;) )
NDY will tranlslate it (arigato for that as well :) )
And Iīll put in the subs and upload it too, on youtube.

I wonder, if we only get the video...would be a good chance to announce the release date, some other infos on the game, maybe a new mode along the video

I mean the games not only about characters...weapons, skills, levels, gameplay mechanics, music, items, some great Tsuchi artworks...anything would be fine... :ph43r:

Oh well, what am I talking, I bet weīre going to get some screenshots of the gameplay video of Tsuru-chan :rolleyes:
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Besides, judging by those features, we all know Maggie's a man, anyway


*chucks mouse at Balder* Hush, you. I happen to like her looks. :wub:

On the topic of boy-Garasha, I'm not too keen, I'd rather see a cool goth loli chick myself. But then again, I wouldn't put it past Capcom.

I also agree with you on the roster. We've been told countless times how awesome this game is going to be, and in Hack&Slash it's the characters that make the game. So far we've been depraved and disappointed. Really excited about Yoshiaki though!!

With Tsuru's video this week, we'll be up to date, so I suppose the April reveal makes sense. Tread carefully, Kobapii...

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Jsun will the rip the video and upload it on youtube (arigato for that)
NDY will translate it (arigato for that as well)
And Iīll put in the subs and upload it too, on youtube.


Lol, what a happy family we all make eh? :hehe:
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Yeah, this tag team is the shiznit!!!!!


Anyway, I sparked an interesting discussion with Boy Gracia, but what I meant to say is that Hayami-san will transform and get into the game...spoken from Mitsuhide's viewpoint. Ergo, his "spirit" living on in his daughter.


No Bridgets please!!!! (well, he's ok. But he's a rare example of sheboys done well, imho)
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Well, thatīs how things work out in a Nakama ;)

Now Iīm really excited who the next characters will be.
Cause I canīt wait to see how Gracia turns out to be.

I love Mitsuhide and his psychotics, so if only a little bit were to live on in her, sheīd be my instant favourite...as long as she doesnīt have an annoying voice...I mean Tsuru-chan scratches my limit more than she should...I couldnīt take another one... <_<

I mean we donīt really have one of those psycho-females, you know those who are like Kallen from Code Geass or Karin from Naruto. Having a sweet as sugar voice when they are calm, but tending to sound like a demon when they are pissed off. :lol:

Oh yeah...and Bridget...Kenshin was allready too much from some...so a BASARA Bridget would cause even more head shakes, I guess :unsure:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:17 pm.
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Well, if Oichi doesn't make a return, then maybe Gracia could take her place? I gotta go with Akiro, with Mogami held back, we could always know that there's one more character in the game. Anyway, I think that Gracia should use the SW2 Oichi weapons, with spikes on them and fling them around super fast, putting the BASARA touch on SW2, heh heh.

Um, I gotta say, I really can't seem to make any speculation on what Mitsuhide's seiyuu thing could turn out to be, or how Tsuru will play....

By the way, has it been confirmed that Hisahide Matsunaga will be playable or not?
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:10 am.
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concerning mitsuhide,since the seiyuu himself that was talking i'm taking that he's saying "i'll still be in SB3 as a VA,but as someone else",so i thought the gracia thing was a bit....weird if that's the case,since his voice is so manly

the likes of bridget/kenshin/loran cehack/SW ranmaru was a male voiced by female,that,is "normal" in japanese market,what i meant in my previous post was mitsuhide's VA voicing gracia,as a true girl,not half&half,now that's unusual......
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By the way, has it been confirmed that Hisahide Matsunaga will be playable or not?
first of all,its hasn't even known yet whether or not he's IN the game,let alone playable or not,there are a lot of old casts that has yet to be confirmed whether they're still in or not,like itsuki,zabii,musashi,fuuma,etc.

and believe me,the majority here will start a "hail koba" campaign that you WILL notice if matsunaga is confirmed in AND is a playable character

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...and I just remembered what THAT Basara fandom would think of a boy Gracia in drag. Oh dear God, what hellish crossdressing vision have we wrought?
But if proper gothic lolita Gracia makes an appearance, Rie Tanaka is the way to go.

Anyway, a bit of a silly question since his name was brought up: was there any official confirmation that Tsuchibayashi is working on this title?
I ask because besides not having seen a single artwork of his, I don't think it's entirely impossible for him to have left the team (for instances, I think he only worked on DMC1 and "left").
I've seen this matter discussed in other places, so it got me wondering...

Btw, a little random idea that just popped up while checking the Darkstalkers Tribute artbook - what do you think of a character like the ghost girl Lei-Lei?
Not supernatural and not necessarily female but a character who basically pulls all sorts of weapons from his/her sleeves. Think of it as a melee version of Maggie.
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Btw, a little random idea that just popped up while checking the Darkstalkers Tribute artbook - what do you think of a character like the ghost girl Lei-Lei?
Not supernatural and not necessarily female but a character who basically pulls all sorts of weapons from his/her sleeves. Think of it as a melee version of Maggie.
nope,its too "generic" in gaming world today,lei lei was hip in the 90's but nowadays there are so many that looks like her,especially the "extremely long sleeves to hide what's inside" costume

lets see,for the girls there's
-bloody roar's uriko
-blaz blue's taokaka
-tsukihime/meltyblood's kohaku
-that-girl-that-looks-like-a-child-version-of-chun li-from-naruto

for the boys

-KOEI has a dude that shoves random melee weapons from his backpack though,albeit only in concept,since the execution is nothing like maggie's(he's not using them,just throwing them around)

-there's also dissidia's frionel/firion/FF2 guy/whatever you call him

-fate/stay night had 3 characters that can use gazillions of melee weapons which they store in another dimension......

and many more.....

so yeah,if SB is going to make one they better be a LOT different from these stereotypes...........
Edited by wodash, Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:18 am.
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concerning mitsuhide,since the seiyuu himself that was talking i'm taking that he's saying "i'll still be in SB3 as a VA,but as someone else",so i thought the gracia thing was a bit....weird if that's the case,since his voice is so manly

the likes of bridget/kenshin/loran cehack/SW ranmaru was a male voiced by female,that,is "normal" in japanese market,what i meant in my previous post was mitsuhide's VA voicing gracia,as a true girl,not half&half,now that's unusual......
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By the way, has it been confirmed that Hisahide Matsunaga will be playable or not?
first of all,its hasn't even known yet whether or not he's IN the game,let alone playable or not,there are a lot of old casts that has yet to be confirmed whether they're still in or not,like itsuki,zabii,musashi,fuuma,etc.

and believe me,the majority here will start a "hail koba" campaign that you WILL notice if matsunaga is confirmed in AND is a playable character

Yeah, well sorry for being stupid about the whole Matsunaga thing. But I could've sworn that the guy with the DBZ picture/avatar, could've said that he was in the game....Sorry for forgetting your username,lol.

On other topics, I think that BASARA is going to win the Koei/Capcom war this year. I mean, I always thought it was going to turn out this way, ever since SW3 was announced as a Wii exclusive. I'm saying this because the graphics suck, obviously, and they cut MUSASHI AND KOJIRO. The gameplay looks slow and it lags up. So, unless there is some kind of port with a major graphics/gameplay update, and new characters with SW3XL, the game can't match with BASARA. Simply, you can see that we WIN in everything, except maybe amount of characters.....yet :ph43r:
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^that would be the sunwukong dude?IIRC he uses a goku avatar......

as for the KOEI/capcom war.......i don't take sides,mainly because i support both>.<,especially because this site is called KW,not CW.....

and after all,SW's existence helps the competition going,surely its on the slow side on creativity,but it has an advantage of its own,like an earlier US version,and CAW which most US players LOVE(i dunno what's the fun in them,but its highly popular and demanded,even by several SB fans)

i do admit that being wii exclusive is a bad move since it limits its popularity,unlike a PS3 exclusive,or 360,or even PSP(the 3 major gaming platform nowadays)

but hey,that doesn't mean the inevitable XL&empires version won't be coming to PS3 or 360,and that some sort of port wont be coming to PSP(and for extra lols,PS2),KOEI always have a way to milk their franchise,even the ones that FAILS,and as much as fans hate them for doing that,they'll buy them anyways>.<
Edited by wodash, Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:33 am.
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On other topics, I think that BASARA is going to win the Koei/Capcom war this year. I mean, I always thought it was going to turn out this way, ever since SW3 was announced as a Wii exclusive. I'm saying this because the graphics suck, obviously, and they cut MUSASHI AND KOJIRO. The gameplay looks slow and it lags up. So, unless there is some kind of port with a major graphics/gameplay update, and new characters with SW3XL, the game can't match with BASARA. Simply, you can see that we WIN in everything, except maybe amount of characters.....yet :ph43r:
Yeah, Koei cut Musashi, Kojiro, Gracia and... is there anyone else missing? In any case, take those and then compare them to who was cut in SB3. I'm not saying what Capcom is doing is way worse as they're making it up with cool new characters. SW3 added cool new characters as well as updating a few returning ones.

Gameplay-wise I'll agree that it was slow when I first started playing it but then you get used to it. Honestly, I don't even notice it anymore. As far as lagging goes... come on, you're playing a Warriors game, if you don't expect some amount of lag by now something's up.

As far as graphics goes, if you're going by what pictures the SB3 site's been showing I believe those are PS3 screens anyway so it's not really a fair comparison. I usually refer to the Wii's graphic capapbility as high-end PS2 graphics but I'm not some grpahics-w**** so I don't really mind. Just so long as it doesn't look like Strongbad's "Secret Collect" game (I think that's what it was called) :XD .
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I don't give a rat's ass which game is technically better, as I'm getting both. To worry about such things are trivial, unless you only had enough money for one. That be the case, pick whichever one that screams to you. To each his own.

Between the two, both have their share up updates and even their share of disappointments. No matter how much Koba tries to justify cutting out characters or NPCifying them, the simply fact that they've done it is going to leave a sour taste in my mouth, as a lot of them I never got to try before (and will have to resort to modding, something I don't feel I should have to do in order to enjoy a game). Just as irritating to see Koei put in so many FMO characters, though, at least you can play them.

Seeing the characters there but not being able to play them HAS to be painful... I feel more for Basara fans over their cuts than I do for SW fans. At least Nouhime is alive and playable in SW3... more then what we can say for Nouhime in Basara. Poor gal, but at least Mago makes the sting of her loss hurt a little less, right?

I'm looking forward to both...
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