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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
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I definitely enjoy SB gameplay more but sometimes the traditional characters of SW is enjoyable although SB has some bad ass people.

Both games have their ups and downs. When I want to enjoy gameplay, I will go for SB, and when I want to role play, I'll play SW.
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Well, if Oichi doesn't make a return, then maybe Gracia could take her place?


I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Why if she doesn't return does Oichi have to be "replaced"? Are you talking about giving Garasha a similar weapon set like Mitsunari, Maggie or Tsuru? Or are you talking about looks (because Oichi is nothing like a goth loli), or personality?

Just because those characters share similarities in fighting style with cut or NPC characters doesn't make them their replacements. Mitsunari/Kenshin are nothing alike, and neither are Nouhime/Magoichi. Oichi as a character can't be replaced, she's the sister of the Demon King and Nagamasa's wife, it's not like if she doesn't appear they can just create a new character to fit the criteria (especially when both forementioned characters are dead) <_<
Edited by murakumo, Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:46 am.
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Aww what is all this talk about characters being replaced? Please don't tell me characters are being taken out of being played? Man this is a major flaw in the game. I don't believe that every single character has to be unique, just fun to play with.

Oichi is definitely one of my favorite characters. I could not get the edition she was usable in and really looked forward to using her if they had another sequel..

Can anyone tell me the confirmed playable characters and npcs?
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No need to worry Balder, I'm sure I've seen Tsuchi's credits on the main site. Plus, with character designs like Mitsunari, its pretty hard to imagine anyone else being the character designer, eh? :hehe:

Still, now 8 months since the games announcement, lack of official artwork is depressing, especially since Koba stated that we shouldn't expect too many... Wait... its been 8 months already!? Woah, I can still rember arguing over which console it'd be released on. If memory serves me correctly, we first got a leak that it'd be released for Wii, then, when hopes had hit the ground, BAM, Famitsu scans deliver the news of a PSWII multi. Good times!

Anyway, am I the only one thinking we may get a little something extra in our next batch? I know I'm probably getting my hopes up, only to be shot down, but with a 2 month wait between this and the Kanbei + Tsuru reveal, plus no silhouette to ease the draught, maybe Kobas planning to reveal something big? Heck, artwork would be fine with me, but with the game ever closer to its release, perhaps we'll be seeing more new chacters than we think... Of course, this wait could be due that we got Tsuru, as well as Kanbei, and Koba thinks it only fair to "spread out" his reveals...

Also, on the Hisahide discussion, I have a feeling we won't be seeing him until the last batch. To go out with a bang, so to say :sly:
Plus, with Capcom saving him for a true BASARA game, and himself being quite popular among fans, I think its the perfect way to end this long rollercoaster ride.

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No need to worry Balder, I'm sure I've seen Tsuchi's credits on the main site. Plus, with character designs like Mitsunari, its pretty hard to imagine anyone else being the character designer, eh? :hehe:


That's good to hear. I was starting to wonder about that myself. You think that Mitsunari is the character that best defines Tsuchi's design of the current newcomers MP? Not trying to start an argument, just curious :hehe: .

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Can anyone tell me the confirmed playable characters and npcs?


http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6649075/1/#new
That's the sum of all the information that we know at this time.

I've been saying for quite a while now that I'd like Yoshiaki to be held off as long as possible so that we always know that at least one more character is on the way but since Dewa(that's what the region is called right?) was mentioned in the latest manga chapter I think he's included in the next batch. Speaking of which, Itsuki made a appearance in that chapter as well. I guess that she could take up the remaining NPC spot in the upcoming batch, together with Toshiie. Personally I would love if both Matsu and Toshiie were playable but I don't think that going to pan out.

On the topic of gender-ambiguously Gracia, I don't think that is such a good idea for various reasons. As stated previously Kenshin already has that going for him and I don't think that having Mitsuhide voicing him/her would feel very natural. Then again, it's worked in many other instances, with other voice actors sure but still, so perhaps it can be done. In any case, personally I want Gracia to be a fully-fledged woman.

Man, Hisahide better be a playable this time around. I don't get what it is about him that just makes me such a fan of his. He's just such a magnificent bastard :wub: .
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You think that Mitsunari is the character that best defines Tsuchi's design of the current newcomers MP? Not trying to start an argument, just curious :hehe: .
To be honest, I'd love to deny it and declare Yoshitsugu the one who defines Tsuchi's work among the newcomes, but I'm having a difficult time visualizing how he'll get presented without looking too... awkward. Most of Tsuchi's work, as we know, includes a lot of quick brush strokes, and almost portrays a feeling of movement. I think this is why I'm having the easiest time imagining Mitsunari looking the best in this particular art style. So, I guess, with Mitsunari's slender appearance and speedy moveset, I see him as an embodied form of Tsuchi's work, more than I do the others. Not to say hes my favourite design though...

So far, heres my ranking for the newcomers appearances:

1. Yoshitsugu - Yes, I'm a big fan of his, so no matter how he'd be portrayed, he'd most likely be my favourite in the roster character-wise. Though, if his image wasn't up to scratch as the other warriors, he certainly wouldn't be taking top spot here, I'm not that biased :hehe:
Luckily though, he greatly appeals to my tastes. Theres something eerie about his design, and it makes a nice change of pace from the pretty boys the series is flooded with. I suppose, if I was completely unknown to the series, and you showed me all our new characters, I'd naturally pick out Yoshi, mostly because I'd be interested to see how he plays. So yes, a floating mummy-esque character that thrashes enemies with several magical orbs is my kind of character. As I said before though, I'm having a hard time seeing him Tsuchified, I think mostly due to the Basaraquin. Its one of the reasons I get a little impatient due to lack of art, I just really wanna see how it'll work out.

2. Mitsunari - When he was first revealed, I noted how much Tsuchibayashi loves his purple and white characters (Hanbei, Mitsuhide, Motochika and now Mitsunari). I really like how they all share the same colour scheme, yet are totally unique from one another. Mitsunari has quickly become one of my favourite designs in the series, mostly due to his armour. I'm quite a fan of Yoshida Akihiko, and most of his work entails fantasy-like armour, without it being to bizarre. Mitsu's armour, with all its jagged edges, really captures my eye and is one of the reasons he ranks 2nd in this list. Again, if you'd have dumped the characters in front of me, and asked which one Tsuchi designed, my answer would immediately be our Iaijutsu friend.

3. Kanbei - I know some members aren't too fond of Kanbei. Slow and a dull appearance in contrast with the rest of the cast, but its this very same dull appearance that I like about him. I've said it before, but its mostly likely to represent his time spent in a cell. What I enjoy most about his design though, is his grungyness, such as the uneven hair, stubble and tattered overcoat, as well as the shackle around his neck. Plus, I've been excited about his image since he was a silhoutte, mostly due to the ball and chain. I'm still dissapointed it didn't turn out to be Kanetsugu, but at least his design eases the pain, if only a little...

4. Tsuru / Ieyasu - Both of their concepts are really great. A suited up version of Japanese school girl, and the all-fists fighting style of the unifier of Japan. While I don't think their the best of the lot, there are much worse character designs IMO. What attracts me most about them is the modern, yet historical, aspects of thier appearances, such as Ieyasu's hood and Tsuru's whole image. I definitely looking foward to Ieyasu's artwork though. Being one of the main characters of the game and the apparant protagonist, thats got to make for some kick ass pieces :sly:

5. Maggie - While shes at the bottom, it doesn't mean I hate her design... I just think she lacks in comparison to the rest of the new kids. What mostly threw me off guard was her numerous different colours. The rest of the roster appear to be assigned to one-two colours, such as Masamune's blue, Yukimura's red, Ieyasu's yellow and Sasuke's green, while Maggie is doning a number of "warm" colous, such as reds and oranges, she's also wearing blue and such. Though, her design has grown on me greatly since her reveal, and her personality is one of my favourites. Still, I wonder if her artwork will portray more of a femmine face, or if I was correct in believing Tsuchi wanted to convey across a more masculing image, compared to the rest of the girls... I've noticed her face seems quite similar to how Tsuchi illustrates his males, such as the smaller eyes and the more "centered" features, while his girls tend to have larger eyes and more "drawn out" features...

Erm... sorry for the long reply Ouelis, but I am quite the fan of Tsuchi, so I sometimes go overboard discussing him, as its rare I ever get into a conversation about his work outside this board :/
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Just because those characters share similarities in fighting style with cut or NPC characters doesn't make them their replacements.
This. Dear God, this. It cannot be stressed enough.
It still irks me when I see people saying that pint-sized mini-cab Ieyasu is replacement for the Conqueror King... :huh:


wodash,
I didn't meant that it necessarily had to be a character with oversized sleeves.
A few minutes after making that post I remembered Devilsking "pitched" a similar idea for a Hanzo with several ninja weapons concealled on his body. Could be something to that effect as well.
And on a side note, Lei-Lei is still very much "hip" (as most of the Darkstalkers cast still is, really), especially considering that the franchise hasn't seen a real sequel in over a decade (in light of Ono's latest remarks, that may change in the near future). I admit that perhaps the concept has been ripped off to death though.

Manta Punk,
Thanks for the confirmation. Of all the characters, I thought Maggie was the one that seemed to reflect Tsuchi's style the most, especially her facial features, but I still wasn't certain.
I guess they are saving all the good stuff for the artbook.
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Holy god, I am SORRY. I did not mean to make that post I made before.

Koen,

What I meant it is that she could have a similar moveset like Magoichi-Nouhime. I meant that for this game she could be the one that is MOST SIMILAR to her. I don't mean replace her completely from the series.

And about the SW/SB war, I meant that they cut some cool characters, and the new ones that they added, don't seem that they can make up for them. So far, SB has done that. SO FAR. If there aren't enough good characters to make up for the losses that we have, then we are at a loss. But, if they do come up with some more cool characters, then we have a WIN. That's what I meant.

And BerryBear, yes, there were character cuts. However, we are expecting Capcom to reveal some more new characters that can make up for them. Go to the info thread for more info, lol.

Manta Punk,

You are totally right about the Hisahide thing. I just realized that that would be the perfect way to end this "long rollercoaster ride".
And, I do think that maybe this Famitsu could be the ffirst with SB3 info in a while. Things are looking up, it seems that this would be the perfect time to give some new information.

Oh, DK, I've been meaning to ask you, how com the video post has not been updated in a while??

Well, sometimes all you can do is wait.





Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:57 am.
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New famitsu seems to have leaked, but I can't seem to find any info on it other than Final Fantasy XIV stuff...

I know we shouldn't be expecting anything, but just in case I was wondering if anyone can confirm no new info
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Erm... sorry for the long reply Ouelis, but I am quite the fan of Tsuchi, so I sometimes go overboard discussing him, as its rare I ever get into a conversation about his work outside this board :/


Nothing to apologize for MP. It was just interesting to hear what you had to say on the say on the subject. You mentioned that Tsuchi made art for Devil May Cry right? Is the majority, or entirety for that matter, of his work tied to Capcom? Is the Basara series what he's best known for, or is there some other franchise he has put his distinct stamp on?

Well, only a couple of hours until Tsuru's video is up. Time for some rest. Tomorrow, arrows! Arrows I say!
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yes i forgot the tsuru vid is coming out tommarow ohhhhh i cant wait i hope it rocks i love tsuru-chan :wub:
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Tsuruhime's video came out!!

But for some reason, this site got it faster than the official site (???)

http://g-bri.com/modules/news/?p=5666#more-5666
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She's pretty moé. and her voice isn't earbleeding bad. The stage design look awesome there, reminds of what they were trying yet failed to do in Sengoku Musou 1.
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Tsuruhime's video script


Motochika: Hey, crane girl!! (Tsuruhime's tsuru means crane) (not 100% sure about this. Motochika calls her 鶴の字) Welcome to the Chosokabe's secret hideout!!

[Teach Chosokabe Motochika a lesson!]

Tsuru: A secret hideout...you are pirates through and through!

(While charging the arrow: "Please prepare ourselves!")

(Gate open event: Broken into the first hideout!)

Motochika: Sorry, but this is one of my favourite places...

Chosokabe soldier: Get a taste of the way we Chosokabe like to do things!

Tsuru: I could even become a dancer too, who knows?♪

[Chosokabe Morichika defeated!]

Tsuru: There are so many strong people in the world...really surprising.

[Spinning Trap Stopped!]

[Chosokabe xxxx defeated!]

Motochika: ****...keep your regrets for when you've kicked the bucket!!

[250 units defeated!]

Kouno soldier: Splendid! The space around her is completely under her control!

Motochika: Win, guys...tonight's drinking party is waitin'!

「Kuwana Yoshinari defeated!」

Motochika: Depending on how you act...I might come and crush you myself!!

Chosokabe soldier: Come and get some!! The demon's subordinates ain't ever gonna surrender!!!

(Motochika enters the stage)

Motochika: What's lost never comes back....
Are ya gonna carry the demon's sins upon ya?

Tsuru: What game are we competing in next?
      Sumo, maybe? Or bonito fishing?

Tsuru: From now on, you must treat the sea better!
....I didn't hear your reply!

Motochika: I always pull out all the stops, from the beginning to the end!!

Motochika: Shiiitt, Crane girlie...you better remember this...!!!

(Victory scene)

Tsuru: Come and challenge me whenever you want!
I will blow you away to kingdom come!




Not bad at all, IMO! Some probably will dislike this kinda character, but for me she's 1000 times better than Ranmaru, at least...she looks fun to play with too...well, as Ranmaru was, after all....
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According to the just updated official site, Aniki's gameplay video will come next on 8 April. I wonder if this will have another effect to the update pattern...

Well then, looking forward to 'April Fools' day then. Or maybe the day before it.
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I really liked her gameplay style, should be a ton of fun. S-string looks like she will be a true archer and not a half archer like SB Ranmaru or SM Inahime. I think her voice is pretty good too. I like all her specials shown. Her BASARA attack looks more like a crowd cleaner and huge combo getter than a boss killer, although you might be able to use it to trap them with a wall for huge damage or something.

Honestly tho, I'm loving the stage design most of all from that video. I can't wait to see even more new levels like that one.
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Well, I know who the first new character I'm playing is~

Unless one of the unrevealed guys is awesome, that is.
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tsuru is awsome and her voice really is'nt bad at all her moveset is quick and efective and i love it
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You know, I was kinda underwhelmed when I saw the video the first time. But now that I've watched it through a couple of times she's grown on me that crazy crane girl. Her S-string seemed a bit lacking a first and not very "stylish" but when I remembered that a bow isn't a close quarters weapon it felt a lot more natural to me. Her S-string seems to focus on precision and distance which first felt a bit...off somehow for me but now I totally dig it.

Her specials seem to be really nice as well. My favorite was the charging shot she makes when she sticks the bow into the ground and pulls it back. It seemed to be a very useful crowd clearer and had that "umph" behind it that really appeals to me. And I gotta say, of the newcomers so far, she has easily got my favorite Basara. You have to love the whole "spinning around like a figure skater while shooting arrows all around like a madwoman" thing. Like a top of death. Of DEATH I say!

Not only this but the great Aniki's stage is a true sight to behold as well. I love the look of the place, with the many traps and murky corridors. One of my favorite points in the video is when the first entrance opens and you can see the huge shark they've pined up above the entrance. Get's me pumped I must say. Also, seems like Aniki's men have some firepower. I noticed a larger soldier holding a bazooka near when Tsuru used her Basara. Is he a new unit? I can't remember seeing them anywhere before.

And now Aniki's video is the next one to go up in two weeks. Seems like they're really going with the video every two weeks pattern now. That's good to know at least. And of course, that means there's nothing scheduled for next week, which is a perfect point to unveil the next batch. Seems like the wait is drawing to a close now, eh?

I wonder if the other veterans will get their videos now. Probably not, since I think that the addition of Aniki in the mix is just to fill in the gaps a bit before the next newcomers are up and running.

As always, big props to Jsun for putting up the video in the channel and to NDY for the translation. Keep up the good work.

EDIT: By the way, I just realized, since Aniki is the next video could it be that one of the next characters that's revealed is a Tokugawa retainer? We've discussed if there was a Tokugawa retainer that took over Shikoku since Koba stated that it was Tokugawa rather than the Eastern Forces right? Maybe in his video we get to see Aniki's quest for revenge against this foe?
Edited by Ouelis, Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:39 pm.
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Well Tsuru's Video come out...ANd what can i say...I'm really impresed,look fun to play, her voice sound good, cool movements and a Impresive BASARA

A Great Newcomer

Second character i gonna use
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Here´s the subbed video of Tsuruhime:


I thought she would be annoying...but actually, during the subbing, where I heard her voice over and over again...and again...it´s really appealing. Even though she´s now the most useless character in the bunch (having no real motive, no real purpose, not even one small sense that she´s in) she´s kinda relieving the seriousness.
Though she kinda seems a bit slow compared to Ranmaru her attacks are pretty neat + her BASARA is a real crowd clearer and her charge shot will be something I´ll use more than once. ^_^

Also did I see that right? Her last attack in her S-string, there´s one time were she shoots that spread shot 3-times in a row instead of just once...if so, that´s awesome. :wub:

Though I just can´t get over the fact that the ice element is wasted on her...I hope there´s a character that really uses ice, like freezing enemys or piercing them with ice spikes, not just sliding on it, or use it to make frozen pink sparkly arrows :hmmm:

Hmmm...so we´ll finally get a video of the two Moto´s, Tadakatsu, Keiji and Yoshihiro?

Though I really wonder what that means for the update pattern... :(

If we don´t get some new characters next week, it´s safe to assume that the roster really is the pitifull size we all fear deep inside of our hearts... :sad:

It all depends on next week´s update...and that´s on the famous 1st April...yay... :mellow:

Also anyone got the new Famitsu? Somthing in there? Is it mentioned that there will be something about BASARA 3 in the next issue? :huh:
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pretty cool but shes no way as destructive as kanbei... i thought i'd like Tsuru more than kanbei but now its the other way around :( lol she seemed to boring? if thats the word.
Her moves are a bit to ill polite for a Basara archer but considering shes a cute little girl i suppose i'll let it slide but Ranmaru's move are a lot more aggressive.

I hope they add more women though (that doesn't mean girls lol) Capcom have some of the best female characters under their belt a little more wouldn't hurt.

Real women FTW! ^_^
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Hmmm...so we´ll finally get a video of the two Moto´s, Tadakatsu, Keiji and Yoshihiro?

Though I really wonder what that means for the update pattern... :(

If we don´t get some new characters next week, it´s safe to assume that the roster really is the pitifull size we all fear deep inside of our hearts... :sad:

It all depends on next week´s update...and that´s on the famous 1st April...yay... :mellow:


I was wondering the same thing when I saw Aniki's video circle, but I don't think we'll be seeing all of the veterans videos at all. Rather, as I said, I think it's just there to fill in the gaps a bit. Besides, if that were the case, shouldn't we be seeing Hondam first since he was announced before Aniki? It's true that I wonder a bit over the roster size now as well, but I don't feel worried about it. I don't think that the size will exceed like 24 or something but I think we'll be satisfied with the outcome. That's just my gut feeling though. In any case, I'm fairly certain that we'll be seeing the next batch next week. Can't be certain of course, but I feel pretty good about it.

So stiff upper lip DK. It ain't over yet!
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If we don´t get some new characters next week, it´s safe to assume that the roster really is the pitifull size we all fear deep inside of our hearts... :sad:


Oh God, just 13 characters? It would be boring to play such a small number of characters :(

Anyway Tsuruhime is awesome, I like her ice skating BASARA :P
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