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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,187 Views)
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NDY and DK,
Once again, thank you for efforts in bringing some degree of understandment to this madness.

Well, once again the enemy general stole part of the spotlight as much of this video's awesomeness is definitely for Motochika's stage.
All those traps and contraptions were great. If they put up some hidden rooms full of goodies, this one's a winner in my book (I really hope they keep the "explore for loot" element, I loved that SB2H).

As for Tsuru herself, as a full-blown archer, she seems interesting and might be pretty fun (though I imagine she'll be the most annoying enemy general EVER!) but I have to agree with ~in3vitableTIMING~'s analysis, her attacks seem to be lacking a certain "impact", it's more like she moes the enemies to death instead of puncturing them full of holes. And as Devilsking said, she sounds a bit devoid of "purpose".
She seems fun, but to me, not as impressive as Yoshitsugu and Kanbei.
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Hmmm...it could also be the case the Hondam fights against someone that hasn´t been revealed yet.

So could be Motonari, Keiji and Yoshihiro. Maybe they keep Motonari for the Amago represantive and Yoshihiro for a Tachiabana or just someone from Kyushu?

So maybe Motochika´s opponent will be revealed next week, that´s why they are able to show us his video.

I mean the only ones we haven´t seen are Mitsunari (and thus probably Yoshitsugu) and Masamune. Since it´s pretty much safe to assume that if Yoshiaki is really in, they´ll keep Masamune´s stage for his uncle and Mitsunari for some hardcore eastern army supporter...or someone who really hates Mitsunari :XD

Maybe Motochika gets to fight against Matsu and Toshiie? Who knows? :ph43r:

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I did forget to mention that I REALLY LOVE THE MUSIC IN THAT STAGE.

All the new tunes are really beautifull and sometimes even epic (story trailer music) but it´s really nice to see the good old Aniki music back in action...it really gives of the feel of the great ocean and some pirate vibes :lol:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:39 pm.
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Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:18 am
Is the majority, or entirety for that matter, of his work tied to Capcom? Is the Basara series what he's best known for, or is there some other franchise he has put his distinct stamp on?
Yep, there sure is. You know about DMC, but he also worked on Shinobi, an action game developed by Sega, and its sequel Kunoichi which was dubbed "Nightshade" in America. Some of his pieces for both these games are even greater than his BASARA works, so I'd reccomend looking at them :)

Anyway, the first thing I noticed about Tsuru's video was the Onigashima soundtrack is back! One of the greatest pieces of music in the whole series! Also, with all the traps and such, this has potential to be my favourite stage in the game :sly:

Tsuru surprised me quite a bit too. True, she doesn't seem that powerful, but shes a speedy little thing, with a... unique Basara. Still, gotta go with DK here and hope theres a more "bad ass" ice user to be announced. I don't mind Tsuru, but I can see her annoying me often, like the sound she made after she beat Aniki...

Well, the next few week seem pretty exciting. New info and Motochika's vid... Lets just hope the new info was worth the loooong wait!

Thanks to DK and NDY... I feel I say that every week :hehe:
Edited by Manta Punk, Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:45 pm.
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Hmmm...it could also be the case the Hondam fights against someone that hasn´t been revealed yet.

So could be Motonari, Keiji and Yoshihiro. Maybe they keep Motonari for the Amago represantive and Yoshihiro for a Tachiabana or just someone from Kyushu?

So maybe Motochika´s opponent will be revealed next week, that´s why they are able to show us his video.

I mean the only ones we haven´t seen are Mitsunari (and thus probably Yoshitsugu) and Masamune. Since it´s pretty much safe to assume that if Yoshiaki is really in, they´ll keep Masamune´s stage for his uncle and Mitsunari for some hardcore eastern army supporter...or someone who really hates Mitsunari :XD

Maybe Motochika gets to fight against Matsu and Toshiie? Who knows? :ph43r:


Yes, I think it's safe to assume that Aniki is up next time since his opponent is about to be revealed. Which in of it self is a good thing, seeming as that pretty much confirms that the next batch is coming next week. As I wrote earlier, it's could be the Tokugawa retainer that attacked Shikoku that we had discussed earlier. Say that it's Hanzo, do you think that he would then be the one to have Mitsunari's stage in his video? It makes a certain amount of sense if we consider what we've heard so far. The Amago would make sense for Motonari's opponent as well. But who would Keiji face in that case? I just doesn't make sense to me. Oh well, I guess it reveal itself in due time. Why Matsu and Toshiie by the way? Just cause we know they're on the way, or does Aniki have an in somewhere? Oh and thanks for the subbed video by the way!

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Yep, there sure is. You know about DMC, but he also worked on Shinobi, an action game developed by Sega, and its sequel Kunoichi which was dubbed "Nightshade" in America. Some of his pieces for both these games are even greater than his BASARA works, so I'd reccomend looking at them :)


You know, that makes some sense to me. I remember playing Shinobi very briefly many years ago and noticing that the characters seemed very well designed. I might have to track this down further. Thanks MP!


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Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:49 pm
Anyway, the first thing I noticed about Tsuru's video was the Onigashima soundtrack is back!
Damn...I knew I forgot to mention something. Epic theme indeed. Very "piratey", if that makes any sense.

Anyway, anyone think Tsuru is getting her own squad of perverts like Itsuki had?
TSUUUUURUUUUUU-CHAAAAAAANNNNNN!! WOOOOOOOO!!! *fireworks*
That scene always cracks me up even though it's just so wrong.


Ouelis,
Apologies in advance if I sound like I'm stating the bleedin' obvious, but have you checked www.dokuganryu.com ? Besides the Basara artbooks, the site owner has the Makoto Tsuchibayashi Design Works and Shinobi artbooks as well.
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Tsuruhime is the best out the new characters revealed in my opinion. She looks like loads of fun. However i cant exactly call her my favorite until ALL the new characters are revealed. Then ill decide. :)
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Well, Tsuru doesn't dissapoint. I love Motochika's stage. I like a lot of her moves, and when she is leveled up, it seems that charge shot may.........come in handy, heh heh.

Well, They made up for Not having Ranmaru, that's for sure.


If the batch doesn't come this week, then were either screwed, or Kobas gonna release everything at one time, but I doubt that. So we can hope. Pretty wierd though. It all comes down to April 1st, this is pretty epic in itself.


Gonna go play conquest with Motochika now!
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I had my doubts about Tsuru at first, but now they've all disappeared. I find I do quite truly love her. Not only is she cute, but her moveset looks really cool and fun to use (particularly her Basara, blimey that's... unique). I have a feeling she may provide us with a break from all the suffering, betrayal and angst that promises to accompany this game.

I also really like her relationship with Motochika. As seen at the end, she didn't kill him and he just walked off, like he wasn't taking her seriously. It seems that for all her talk of defeating her enemies and protecting her sea, all she really did was "teach him a lesson". It's like a game to her. But I feel she may suffer a rude awakening at some point.

But the music is beautiful, and Motochika's decorating skills do not disappoint.

Thanks so much for the video, translation and subs everyone! :heart:
Edited by murakumo, Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:19 pm.
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She's pretty moé. and her voice isn't earbleeding bad. The stage design look awesome there, reminds of what they were trying yet failed to do in Sengoku Musou 1.
I was thinking the same thing (about the stage designs). I got to say, though... I'm digging that castle more than I'm digging Tsuru... I can't wait to do that level!

As for Tsuru... eh, she's cute, and her attacks actually look pretty useful as opposed to other bow movesets I've seen in other games, so I'll give her a go. I especially like how she drives it into the ground to reel back for that really strong attack.

I'm satisfied at the moment.
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Also, with Motochika´s video (on 8th April BTW, means two weeks) we´ll see if the old "problems" are out of the world and they really got to the weaknesses, some of the old vets had or if he still has all those flashy but pretty much useless moves. <_<

And I thought of Toshiie and Matsu cause A) My guess is they might be on the eastern side
B) Have the highest chance of appearing in the new batch
C) Casue I´ve recently watched the 13th episode/OVA of the Sengoku BASARA anime and it seemed as though they had a pretty neat friendship and also experienced a lot together. :lol:

It seems they take some parts from the past games and things from the anime to "make up the past of the BASARA 3 cast", so I might not be surprised if Toshiie and Matsu try to, once more, talk to Motochika and try to convince him to join their cause (this time for a good guy, not for the Oda)

I just guessed them cause I have no idea who else might be a fitting opponent for Motochika, given that he´s on the eastern side and has a small grudge against Ieyasu. But since Motonari and Ieyasu are allready "occupied" and Tsuruhime would be a bit strange, so all of his biggest realtions/rivalries are gone.

Though we´ve seen in the story trailer that Motochika fights Mitsunari and the latter kneels before Aniki, probably meaning that he defeated him. Also, even though they are on the same side, Yukimura got Motonari as an opponent, so Motochika might get to fight Mitsunari in his video...then again, I wouldn´t know what kept them so long from releasing the old pirates video. :huh:

Though at this point those are just assumptions ^_^

So...did anyone see if there is any record in the recent Famitsu? Normally there´s at least a brief preview list of which games are to be expected in the next issue...anything noted about BASARA 3?

Though Koba might not give them infos and scare us that there are no infos at all next week and then on the 1st he surprises us and says:"HA, GOT YA! And you wanted to curse me for not releasing infos, ey? WROOOONG!"
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And I thought of Toshiie and Matsu cause A) My guess is they might be on the eastern side
B) Have the highest chance of appearing in the new batch
C) Casue I´ve recently watched the 13th episode/OVA of the Sengoku BASARA anime and it seemed as though they had a pretty neat friendship and also experienced a lot together. :lol:


Hm, yes, you have a point there especially with the last one. That seems like something that might spill over to SB3. In any case, I'll, just be happy to see the Maeda's back. I just pray that they're both PC. It's a pipe-dream I know, but I just can't choose between them.

So gut feeling DK, you think we're in trouble on the roster/content front? I'd like to hear what everybody has to say about this.

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Though Koba might not give them infos and scare us that there are no infos at all next week and then on the 1st he surprises us and says:"HA, GOT YA! And you wanted to curse me for not releasing infos, ey? WROOOONG!"


He would get a laugh out of me if he does, and attaches the Luthor clip to the update. Actually, I can see it going down like that. Something is obviously coming up, and is there really a reason to let Famitsu break the news first? Do they have some kind of contract to that effect?

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Ouelis,
Apologies in advance if I sound like I'm stating the bleedin' obvious, but have you checked www.dokuganryu.com ? Besides the Basara artbooks, the site owner has the Makoto Tsuchibayashi Design Works and Shinobi artbooks as well.


HOW. DARE. YOU!? I have never, NEVER in all my life been taken for such a fool! This is the greatest insult I have ever naw, I'm just messing with you. I wasn't aware of the site at all, and it seems like it has plenty of art to me to drool over. Thanks a lot Balder!
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Well, of course quality > quantity.

And as far as I can tell, the character have become "deeper" and more unique to play as.

But I´d like to have at least slightly more characters than BASARA 2 had. After all it´s a follow-up game and after such a long time, they should´ve been able to create more than 21 characters. It should at least have as many playable characters as SB2:H had.

With Mushashi included that´d make 26 playable characters(I don´t count in the clones + Ujimasa and Yoshimoto)

So far we have 13. We "only" had 5 newcomers for now and one isn´t even related to Sekigahara (and because of that some of our favourites had to go, so take that Seki-setting serious Koba :mellow: )
There´s still the possibility of Hisahide, Kotaro, Matsu/Toshiie, Oichi, Zabii, Itsuki, Musashi to be playable. I´d say at least 5 more "old" characters are going to be playable. So they´d "only" have to add 8 new characters.

Given that there is still a noticable lack of:
- Another Tokugawa retainer, I mean c´mon Nobunaga had at least 2.
Hideyoshi now has two. Why shouldn´t Ieyasu "only" have Tadakatsu?
- Then there´s still a lack of females, which could be balanced out with the inclusion of Gracia or Chacha.
- There´s still a lack of Sekighara key figures like Kobayakawa Hideaki (the man who actually decided the tide of the battle) and Ukita Hideie (the one who actually led the army into Sekigahara...also 2nd in command)
- The long ago spoiled Mogami Yoshiaki
- Sasaki Kojiro for Musashi. We all want him, admit it :P
- Then there´s the hint of an Amago represantive
-and there´s still a lack of the most loyal and notable eastern supporters like Todo Takatora or Hosokawa Tadaoki.

There´s tons more, but those are the ones we know of or have been promised to get or are actually a MUST in the whole Sekigahara battle.

Keep your words Koba. More characters than ever. Lots of characters. Only 1/3 of the whole roster. More females. Don´t forget those words. :hmmm:

Also you killed off some characters to give birth to a realistic Sekigahara setting, so honor the sacrifices you made and give us a real Sekigahara battle with all the key figures present...or at least the most important like the commander...well...in history it was Ukita Hideie who did most of the fighting...of the western army and the one who decided it.
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Well, of course quality > quantity.


Absolutely. Also, I agree with you that Koba needs to heed his own words and make good on his promises. And there really needs to be more key Sekigahara figures. Quick aside, is there any reason to doubt Koba's statement of roster size? I haven't exactly kept my eye on him in the past so I don't know if he has a history of promising the world. Like Molynuex, or however you spell that, that runs Lion Head. Every time he's making something he hypes it up into enormous sizes and it never pans out. Is it like that?
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Well, of course quality > quantity.


Absolutely. Also, I agree with you that Koba needs to heed his own words and make good on his promises. And there really needs to be more key Sekigahara figures. Quick aside, is there any reason to doubt Koba's statement of roster size? I haven't exactly kept my eye on him in the past so I don't know if he has a history of promising the world. Like Molynuex, or however you spell that, that runs Lion Head. Every time he's making something he hypes it up into enormous sizes and it never pans out. Is it like that?
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. I've never really followed Koba before like this so, is it like him to say false things? We know that it's possible to have this many characters, SB2H. We know that they can add many new characters will keeping them unique, the new characters we've gotten so far. So, is there a reason to doubt it? I mean really, maybe were just overreacting because of the long wait we had. Like I've said many times before, this is the climax of info. April 1st is where it will start or end. This is it. We either start the info pattern there and Koba make sure that we see the most satisfying game ever, or we get very angry.






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Once again thank you to the Trio of Awesome for the video rip (Jsun), translation (NDY), and subs (DK). *Adds video to my SB3 youtube playlist and begins IMing friends to spread hype* lol.

The more I watch this video, the more I think I will be having a ton of fun with her ^__^.

And DK about the Ice Element, I do hope we get more Ice users, it might be my favorite element in BASARA. However, don't you think Tsuruhime could be pretty damn deadly with it? Just imagining using an elemental weapon with the ability to potentially freeze entire crowds with icy spread shots (like the end of ther S-string) makes me really anxious to play her.
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I have no interest in Tsuru, but that was to be expected because I never like characters like that. However, within that mindframe, they actually did a really good job with her and her special where she pulls back and launches a super powerful shot is just way too awesome. For those who like these types of characters, she seems really well done.

I am VERY happy we got to see Motochika and his stage in action. Both are severely awesome and he'll probably once again be the first character I play as.

What I am concerned about however, is that Motochika is the next video. I was always under the assumption that the rest of the vids would be of brand new characters, which would mean we have 8 more to go if they were going to fill up the slots. Now that we can expect more returning character vids, I have no idea if Kobayashi is going to fulfill his promise of "tons of characters". The only saving grace of Motochika being the next vid is, as some have said, hes fighting a brand new character...

Either way, I can't wait til next week (speaking of which, yeah, Famitsu usually lists what you can expect in the next issue, so if anyone can get that info, it would be greatly appreciated)
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Guys. Motochika's vid will simply be him fighting...Tsuru. It will be more of Kobayashi stalling and refusing to show anything new. That's just how he rolls.

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As seen at the end, she didn't kill him and he just walked off, like he wasn't taking her seriously.
The walking off part he did was part of his death animation. He's supposed to fall down once he turns around.

In regards to Tsuru's video... I thought there was an 'OOMPH' factor lacking in a few of her attacks but I liked her Basara attack if only for the fact that the combo count sky rocketed near the end of it.

So far I look forward most to playing Magoichi and Vergil-nari. Man, Hopefully he'll have an alt. outfit where he's got Vergil's hair.
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So far I look forward most to playing Magoichi and Vergil-nari. Man, Hopefully he'll have an alt. outfit where he's got Vergil's hair.


Yeah, that would be AWESOME. He's already got the white hair so, maybe they could give him his costume, actually putting him IN THE GAME. A lot of people won't like this idea because, well, not everyone's' a hard-core DMC Fan, or just don't think it will work.


Necroisis, can't you have any positive comments?
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As seen at the end, she didn't kill him and he just walked off, like he wasn't taking her seriously.
The walking off part he did was part of his death animation. He's supposed to fall down once he turns around.

In regards to Tsuru's video... I thought there was an 'OOMPH' factor lacking in a few of her attacks but I liked her Basara attack if only for the fact that the combo count sky rocketed near the end of it.

So far I look forward most to playing Magoichi and Vergil-nari. Man, Hopefully he'll have an alt. outfit where he's got Vergil's hair.


Yeah, that would be AWESOME. He's already got the white hair so, maybe they could give him his costume, actually putting him IN THE GAME. A lot of people won't like this idea because, well, not everyone's' a hard-core DMC Fan, or just don't think it will work.


Necroisis, can't you have any positive comments?

I also just noticed the sprint affect she had. wonder if that will be an unlockable skill for all characters, cause that would be awesome! I don't think that was in any of the other BASARA games.
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Yay for Aniki action, agreat stage designs, and epic music. ^_^

But I'm going to be the most negative towards Tsuru, so if you can't handle that, just skip my post.

Wow.... She was overwhelmingly boring. Her voice did improve, but throughout the video i found her.... empty. I don't know, she just seemed to not have any personality to what she said, it was just, so generic. Also, her moves seem so stressful to use, I've always hated it when characters lacked some proper melee attacks, it looks like for her she has to line up to hit them, it just seems dificult. I just really didn't like her, she came across as empty, gimmicky and rather boring.

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The stage was excellent though, nice traps and great music. I can't wait to see an Aniki vid, i'm glad he gets one at the very least, I couldn't care less about who he faces. I just want to see a torpedo smash some grunts in the face. :sly:
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Yeah, that would be AWESOME. He's already got the white hair so, maybe they could give him his costume, actually putting him IN THE GAME. A lot of people won't like this idea because, well, not everyone's' a hard-core DMC Fan, or just don't think it will work.
Pshh, don't think it'd work? I've seen the guy using a crap-ton of Vergil's moves already so why not give him the clothes to match? :P Then I could find someone to play with and have him run around with Dante Masamune lol.

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Guys. Motochika's vid will simply be him fighting...Tsuru. It will be more of Kobayashi stalling and refusing to show anything new. That's just how he rolls.

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I've got this nagging feeling you're right about who Motochika will be fighting in his video necrosis. And if you DO call it then the only thing new in that video will be his skills (either new ones or new situations he can use them in) and what Tsuru's stage will be like.
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Well, in a way if they showed us lots of new stages, new things etc in the vids we'd have less to be surprised about in the game itself....so I'd like them to reserve them for the new characters, honestly.....

Even though I'm obviously looking forward to Aniki's vid.

Will Kobaman's update be next week...? Gonna keep my fingers crossed.....
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Any chances that the other characters are Unlokables??? pretty much in the SB2????
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Any chances that the other characters are Unlokables??? pretty much in the SB2????
Of course. It'll always be like that. Sis you think we'd have everyone from the beginning?
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