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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,181 Views)
AdawgDaFAB
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:32 pm
*thinks she's the only one not angry about this*

Then again, I don't think my hopes were half as high as some of yours were. Drats...


You aren't the only one. Every new bit of info we have gotten so far I have been happy with. So far I like all the new characters and don't have a huge problem with the roster yet. I mean I will miss some of my fav characters but I don't mind because I am 100% sure we will get an expansion with them down the line. I just want to play a new BASARA game that isn't crap *glares at you SBBH*. Not to mention the new dash feature, the cool base capture and its subsequent effect on boss battles feature, 3 specials at once, expanded story mode, online and offline coop, upgraded moves for returning cast, awesome looking new levels, SB3 has plenty to get me hype.

Maybe I am just more patient than most of the board, but I don't mind having to wait long periods of time for roster announcements because its not like we will have the game to play anytime soon anyways. I have a TON of other stuff to preoccupy me until then and I know I will love the game no matter what and get it day one for both the Japanese and US versions. Therefore any bits of news we do get is just more anticipation building for me and remind me "oh yeah, SB3 is coming out this summer, be excited" lol.
Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:44 pm.
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im likely not buying sengoku basara 3 because of mitsuhide not being playable... it just ruins it for me, its the first game all over again...

...i bet at the last second they'll call this game "demon princes" or something...

guess i'll just stick to koei's games... samurai warriors 3, fist of the north star [if we get it...] and warriors legends of troy... screw sengoku basara now...
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So many rants... don't know if can read... how can you be so energetic at this time of night Devilsking?

Of course we missed you Lady Getsuei ;)

Indeed, the only person gullible enough to believe in that disguise is Yukimura. But I have a feeling that the rest of the cast will fail to notice anything so that "Tenkai" can have his *gasp* BIG REVEAL!

I think Kobapii needs to get his act together. If the game is really as awesome as he says it is, why doesn't he show us just how awesome it can be? Instead of supplying us with menial updates and characters who are either NPC or have no place in the plot, why don't you surprise us with lots of exciting info and a couple of the characters we want to see? If the fans start to lose faith in the game, the only one to blame will be you -_-

But like you say, I have other things to keep me busy. To be honest, this update didn't seem to take forever. With exams, plans and a whole list of anime I need to get round to watching, there's no way I'll give up yet.
Edited by murakumo, Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:00 pm.
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Ouelis, I think we wouldn't all have it in for Koba if it wasn't for this ridiculous info pacing. Announcing the game way too early, and putting fans through harsh waits, only to be let down by lack of info sure doesn't put him in our good books...

If he announced the game at the beginning of this year, and kept the info coming at a nice steady rate, say, every 4 weeks or so, I'm sure we would have been able to handle this batch much, much calmer. But after 2 months of waiting, with no silhouette, and unnecessarily long dragging site updates, we get a joke NPC, a semi new NPC and a returning character... you just gotta ask, what was the bleeding point of announcing the game so early?

But I agree, its only the character updates I've had a problem with so far. Everything else looks pretty much how I'd like a successor to the brilliant BASARA 2/Heroes to look like. The stages, music, Yoshitsugu and the game play automatically make this a day 1 pre-order for me. Its just Koba pulling stupid ass moves that agitate me. Such as characters who got cut for characters who shouldn't be here, or making characters with actual potential to devote something, into jokes (Looking at you Kanetsugu and Kobayacoward) :hmmm:

So I guess, you'll understand if we rant a bit? TBH, the only thing that would truly make me drift into necrosis' anti-Koba camp, would be Hisahide not making it/joining in with the NPCs... but... what are the chances of that happening... right...? :ph43r:

About the newcomers not looking/feeling BASARA enough, maybe we should reserve judgement until we get official art? Still, when Kanbei was labeled as the most dullest character by some members on this forum, I was one, among a few defending him. Sadly, I can't do this for Hideaki or Tenkai. I mean, sure, give him a joke of a personality, give him NPC status, but if your gonna waste a roster slot on such a character, at least give him a half decent design. I mean, what makes him different from a generic? the helmet and his weapon... thats it...

Also, this kids supposed to be part of Yoshi's downfall? At least get Tenkai to do the dirty deed. Theres no way in hell I wanna see this Kobayacoward take out Yoshitsugu. I think in his character thread, DK had a really great idea about Hideaki being a just, indesicive warrior, vanquishing evil(Yoshi)... but instead, he'll probably reflect his orbs back at him using his cooking pot... <_<

Tenkai, well, most people have summed up my thoughts. None of the BASARA-verse warriors know his identity, yet, not only his looks resemble Mitsuhide, but hes also weilding the two trademark scythes...? Sheesh, at least give him a hair cut to make this a little more believable.

Well, no other batch has made me rant like this one, and I seriously hope this standard doesn't continue. Nevertheless, Tenkai's story may proove to be interesting, so at least I got something from all this... But how are the 2chers reacting?
Edited by Manta Punk, Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:26 pm.
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Manta Punk,
Hideaki wasn't the one who defeated and killed Yoshitsugu. Once Hideaki defected to the East and started attacking Mitsunari's army, Yoshitsugu (who was on the sidelines in his palanquin) realised that the battle was a lost cause and ordered his servant to decapitate him. So while Hideaki's actions may have indirectly caused Yoshitsugu's demise, Hideaki didn't kill him. Just thought I'd say that :)

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Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:18 pm
Well, at least we got on PC....WAIT I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING!

Koba said that we would get new info at the end of March, right? That turned into "new game info in April", but we got new info at the end of March! So this most likely means that we have a better chance of getting new info in April!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY HOPE HAS JUST RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!MAYBE THE UPDATES CAN ACTUALLY START!!!!

Oh, and Eklinage, there's some thinking. More hope for Matsu!
No, this is a famitsu leak, its not the actual thing, this IS the news in april. Famitsu actually comes out Right on april first, in Japan at least, so actually, this is the news, its just a leak that came a day earlier. I guess its slightly in the realm of possible that we will see something else exciting in april, like maybe some more characters or some new features explainqtion, but it isn't likely given the recent patterns for this game's info leaks.
Oh, oh god........ :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:


LOOK WHAT YOU DID TO THE SMILEY KOBA!
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Damn... now i'm impatient for a Oichi gameplay vid. I hope she's faster this time. Her attacks were strong but she was slow. I dunno... i guess her attacks could be stronger cuz let's not forget she is the sister of the Demon King.

Now i'm kinda interested in the costumes and the optional/cameo weapons and junk.
Edited by eklineage, Thu Apr 1, 2010 12:46 am.
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:09 pm


Playable:

Tokugawa Ieyasu - Ishida Mitsunari - Date Masamune - Sanada Yukimura
Ōtani Yoshitsugu - Honda Tadakatsu - Chōsokabe Motochika - Mōri Motonari
Saika Magoichi - Uesugi Keiji - Kuroda Kanbei - Shimazu Yoshihiro
Tsuruhime - Oichi - Fuma Kotaro - Matsunaga Hisahide
Matsu - Miyamoto Musashi - Ukita Hideie - Todo Takatora
Yamanaka Shikanosuke or Amago Katsuhisa or Amago Yoshihisa
Mogami Yoshiaki - Sasaki Kojiro - Hosokawa Tadaoki - Tachibana Ginchiyo
Torii Mototada or Hattori Hanzo - Shima Sakon - Fukushima Masanori

NPC:

Uesugi Kenshin - Kasuga - Takeda Shingen - Sarutobi Sasuke
Tenkai - Kobayakawa Hideaki aka Beetlechiyo - Zabii - Itsuki
Katakura Kojuuro - Maeda Toshiie - Hojo Ujimasa - Kennyo

Leading us to a total of 40 Sengoku BASARA HEROES. Of course thatīs just how it could look, but it looks possible, right? :)\

Sorry for double post, I noticed at the end of my post.
DK, keep this list on a piece of paper or something. This is the list we can hope for. This is the list that we will get if Koba brings us the best roster possible (realistically). I get Musashi/Kojiro, DK gets Hisahide, MP gets Otani, and everybody else (Not that I don't like you, I just can't remember what character you'd want more than anybody) gets waht they want. We have our representation of all clans that should be there, ninjas, a good amount of retainers for every faction, and were all set.

All were missing is Ukita, but we have our crew going to Japan, right? :lol:

Um, yeah I accidentally edited DK's quote, I was the one with the double post, *walks away now*
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Thu Apr 1, 2010 12:48 am.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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I think we wouldn't be so pissed if we hadn't waited 2 months for a meager update like this.

Don't know what Koba and the rest of the Capcom staff thinks, but it looks like they're saying "hey otaku boys and girls, you are all nuts about Mami-Oichi, right??? Here she is then, as tragic and darknessy as ever!!! Rejoice and love Basara even more!!

Plus we got 2 new characters, the mysterious monk Tenkai (no one knows who he is...) and the adorable cutesy gourmet general, Kobayakawa Hideaki! So much content! So much fun! What a roster!


Anyway. Everyone else beat this horse to death, but selectively cutting chars like this smells too much of fanboyism. Now if they don't treat other fan-faves like Hisahide well....


Guys, you can use my house as HQ for the punishing raid. I'll try to get enough supplies and weapons, anything. That man has to go down. Give Basara another producer, and I'm sure so many things will change for the better....



Anyway, I decided to not get worked up about this anymore...whatever comes, comes. like BK, I'll just set my expectations level to 0....



We had confirmation of offline co-op.

Oichi's back, and her new moveset seems intriguing.

Tenkai might be an interesting char too.

Hideaki....could be a fun character too. The potential is there.


As soon as other info surface, I'll translate them...that's it. Just business! (Goldberg, hell yeah)
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:32 pm
*thinks she's the only one not angry about this*

Then again, I don't think my hopes were half as high as some of yours were. Drats...
You're not alone on that. :)

Anyway, probably I may get flamed on this, but... <.<;
TBH, I don't quite get why people get so worked up on Tenkai and him not being playable.
When it was first mentioned in the first info batch of SB3 that 'Akechi Mitsuhide is dead', we thought that he, like all other characters already dead, would not appear in the game at all. So even when Show said he will 'transform' in this game, my impression is that if there's really a Tenkai, he would be just an NPC. Definitely never thought he would make it to the playable roster, after knowing that the likes of Kenshin & Sasuke got downgraded to NPCs.

So I thought people would be a bit happier now that it is confirmed that Mitsuhide isn't really dead.
Edited by BlackKite, Thu Apr 1, 2010 2:26 am.
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Thu Apr 1, 2010 1:52 am
Guys, you can use my house as HQ for the punishing raid. I'll try to get enough supplies and weapons, anything. That man has to go down. Give Basara another producer, and I'm sure so many things will change for the better....
But if we change to a new producer, BASARA might go even worse than Koba-era. It's a very risky gamble.

I think that rather than getting so overly pissy about this, just be glad that there's an update, not demanding way too much. BK made the right decision, don't treat BASARA 3 like the second coming of Jesus. If the update isn't like what you wanted, then you get pissy like hell. Such childish attitude.

Just be glad that there's an update, PERIOD. You don't want an announcement where Koba says "NO MORE CHARACTERS, PERIOD!", right?
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:32 pm
*thinks she's the only one not angry about this*

Then again, I don't think my hopes were half as high as some of yours were. Drats...
You're not alone on that. :)

Anyway, probably I may get flamed on this, but... <.<;
TBH, I don't quite get why people get so worked up on Tenkai and he not being playable.
When it was first mentioned in the first info batch of SB3 that 'Akechi Mitsuhide is dead', we thought that he, like all other characters already dead, would not appear in the game at all. So even when Show said he will 'transform' in this game, my impression is that if there's really a Tenkai, he would be just an NPC. Definitely never thought he would make it to the playable roster, after knowing that the likes of Kenshin & Sasuke got downgraded to NPCs.
I'm not angry, just worried what might become of this game if this is all they've got. >.<

And I'm warming up to the htought of Tenkai. :shifty: As long as he delivers me my phsycotic fix I'm fine with him, and I KNOW his seiyuu can deliver. ^_^

But I've been on the 'sit back and see what happens' train for awhile know, whatever info comes will come, no use fretting over it.
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Maybe it would of been better if Tenkai wasn't revealed at all, kept him as an in game surpise . And I agree they could of altered his appearence a bit more like at least tying his hair in a pony tail or something because at the moment this is more like an alternate Heroes costume then a new character...

And you guys are starting to get me worried this can't be nearly the completed roster can it?! I mean it feels like it is missing so much still, it doesn't even feel like it's based on Sekigahara more a Sengoku remix what with characters from different time periods scattered all over the place. The only new characters we have got who are even relevant to Seki are Mitsunari, Yoshitsugu and now Hideaki, who's NPC anyway.
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Maybe it would of been better if Tenkai wasn't revealed at all, kept him as an in game surpise . And I agree they could of altered his appearence a bit more like at least tying his hair in a pony tail or something because at the moment this is more like an alternate Heroes costume then a new character...

And you guys are starting to get me worried this can't be nearly the completed roster can it?! I mean it feels like it is missing so much still, it doesn't even feel like it's based on Sekigahara more a Sengoku remix what with characters from different time periods scattered all over the place. The only new characters we have got who are even relevant to Seki are Mitsunari, Yoshitsugu and now Hideaki, who's NPC anyway.
CORRECTION kanbei is also new and related to sekigahara just thought i had to say it
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Plus we got 2 new characters, the mysterious monk Tenkai (no one knows who he is...) and the adorable cutesy gourmet general, Kobayakawa Hideaki! So much content! So much fun! What a roster!
NDY, that just made my day. Really. I couldnīt stop laughing, donīt know why...but it sums it up pretty good. :XD

BBX, thatīs the roster of my dreams, Iīve allready written it down in my heart :heart:

MP, we both wanted Hideaki to be more than that. First they turned Kanetsugu into a joke character and now Hideaki...I guess we shouldnīt post the characters we donīt want to turn into joke characters...it seems Koba has a liking in breaking our hopes :mellow:

Koen, if after two months of long waiting, I A) still see no sign of Hisahide B) Koba still tramples on the feelings of the persons who admire what he and his crew have created and C)...thereīs a freaking Bettlejuice NPC and a NPC Mitsuhide, trying to hide behind a piece of grass while screaming heīs cured and now called Tenkai then I canīt sit still and let Koba have his way.

I allready have the Kobaīs adress, a blueprint of his house and found an insider in CAPCOM who knows how we can easily approach Koba. The Hanbei fan group is ready to march whenever I call them, the Nagamasa, Mitsuhide and Kojuuro fans are allready hiding in Kobaīs garden and cellar, watching every movement of him.

Weīll get him. :ph43r:

eklineage, Iīm with you there. I allways used her "hand skills", but they just took to long and were interrupted most of the time.

Now with them being her main aspect, I hope thatīll change.

NJB, Iīve allways been like this, you should have known itīd come to this. But damn, that pissed me off. Really.

The reason why, thatīs also to explain it to BK, Iīm upset about Mitsuhide...Tenkai...whatever...is that Iīve got used to the idea that Mitsuhide is dead. I canīt play as him cause heīs dead. I canīt play as my favourite character from SB1, cause HE`S DEAD.

Okay. I got it. Itīs not as bad as having Kenshin dancing around as probably the only "cool" character to use the ice element, like it should be used, but canīt be played as.

And now they tell me that heīs IN the game afterall...but as a NPC?
Itīs like parents telling a kid that itīs dog got rolled over by a truck and died. After it mourned for him and it accepted that the dog is gone, they tell him that heīs not dead and the childs all happy and excited only to see that itīs just the stuffed body of him...thatīs the lowest of the lowest teasing.

And the fact that weīve waited two months for THAT and also for Beetlejuice and THANKFULLY one playable character... <_<

I bet thatīs the joke right? For 1st April? That he teased us so long, to give us something like that. :mellow:

LadyGetsuei, where have you been? What kept you distracted so long?
Maybe I should do the same and chill out a bit to swallow this newest update.....

Hmmm...I wonder that HnB thinks about this update... :huh:

Oh well, letīs see what the update plan of Koba holds in for us. Maybe weīll get the NPC voice updates in one day this time to shorten the wait or the useless updates?
Oh, wait...expactations to level 0...no hoping, anymore...so letīs expect something around Juni. :whistle:
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Actually...

Did they say for SURE that "Tenkai is an NPC?
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^err....yes?its right there in the scan..

whoo,the wall of text of angry mobs>.<,why can't everyone be like BK?,at least he's calm(probably banging his head IRL,but he's calm!),so what if there's many NPC's?

that's one of the main selling point of SB,since it serves as a unique sort of preview for the next expansion(except for matsunaga apparently),as long as the gameplay is not screwed i won't have qualms with this game,period.

and i love the kobayakawa design,and the way he's pictured>.<

and about the kobayakawa seiyuu thing?well its just shows that a VA does not need to stick to one role only,look at ieyasu's VA,and compare the SB1/2/H version with godannar's ken........
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Y'know, we get worked up because we're fanboys and all, but there also was lots more hype than content in this marketing campaign. We're all helpless victims of the hype train! Wish I could suplex that bastard!


But anyway..I took a glance at Famitsu, apparently Oichi lost her memory. But expect a more complete report later.
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But anyway..I took a glance at Famitsu, apparently Oichi lost her memory. But expect a more complete report later.
Oh, no, PLEASE NO!

Of all the things that they could've done to poor Ichi (including having her sit out for whatever reason), this was a thing that I could have gone without. I wanted her to be a young woman who has to try and find her own way, even as her boo, Nagamasa, is no longer there. (Of course, on some levels, that could be a good thing, for her sake! :hehe: )

But this amnesiac thing sounds like just another excuse to utilize the "Cammy Amnesia Syndrome" for the umpteenth time. Blargh. 8D

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I love that Oichi is back! ^_^ I dont really like Mitsuhide's design, but he seems like he will be alittle more interesting now that he is the famous ''monk'' people claim him to be after Nobunaga's death.

I really thought Yodo-Dono would be in this game.I really want her to make an appearance, and im SURE she will.I just hope sometime in the future.
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Oh dear god...Happy April 1st to me!!!

Now, assuming this isn't an April Fools joke (which I doubt it is :ph43r: ), this just became the most awesome Thursday ever.
I literally jumped for joy when I booted up the official site 2 minutes ago.

I'm so happy just to see Oichi returning, the fact that she is playable is all the sweeter. Interested to see what they do with her storywise, since her main motivation from SB2H is pretty much resolved (from a point of view), so hopefully it won't just divulge into "she's still insane and starts cutting up people left and right". Guess it'll likely involve Tenkai in some way, since in her story Mitsuhide was defeated but wasn't really "dead" in the same way as Ranmaru and Nouhime.
Can't wait for screens and video to see how her new moveset works.

Kind of disappointed that "Mitsuhide" and Kobayakawa are NPCs, though, but I'm on such a high right now that it'll take a while for that to sink in.

...
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THIS IS DELICIOUS! YES! YEEES!!!
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Um, guys, here is some potentially awesome news. The website updated with the three characters that were revealed in Famitsu. The interesting part is that ALL of Oichi's information is displayed, and the other two's voices will BOTH be coming on 4/8 along with Motochika's video.

If the update schedule follows the common theme of new characters introduced after all the website updates finish, looks like we should be getting more info in two weeks :OMG:

Maybe this is such a small update because Koba is moving to a 2 week schedule now that Hokuto Musou is released!

This just might finally be the beginning of the REAL hype train...
Edited by robotzombie, Thu Apr 1, 2010 8:12 am.
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SB3 Renders Have Been Updated With Latest Characters!
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Thanks as always, Jsun!!

And as Robotzombie said, already having almost all content revealed is great. More gameplay vids, more characters, more system info? We don't know what, but we'll be seeing new stuff from next week onwards. Great!

Now let me decipher the nasty moonspeak!


Oichi

Weapon: Demonic Hands

Quote: Who...are you...? Do you know...Oichi...? Are you all alone...? Ichi...too...."

Info: Sister of the now deceased Oda Nobunaga. She was brought back to the Oda house after the Azai's fall, and forced to go from battle to battle. She was the only one to survive the Honnoji incident. In order to avoid the cruel present reality she became spiritually detached from the present. She has lost many memories, and acts as those around her order her to (basically, nothing much changed? But looking at the pics, she's much cuter than before. Or is it just me? Anyway, no Yodo-dono impersonation. Good.)


Skills


Crush, Dream of Sorrow

The Great Demon Hand appears and grabs enemies. If you hold down the button, the enemies will be smacked on the ground repeatedly.

Dance, Arms of the Dead

Countless demon hands appear, grab surrounding enemies and toss them away. Not only is it possible to hit enemies in a large radius, you can also absorb energy from the enemies grabbed by the hands.


Carve, Wounds of Pain

Two Great Demon Hands appear in front, pincer the enemies from the left and right sides and crush them. It is possible to perform normal attacks while this skill is in effect


Basara attack

All demon hands unite to form a giant demon hand, gather the panicking enemies and beat the livin' crap out of them.


NDY note: Is anyone else reminded of Jedah? (especially the first skill) Anyway, I'm sold! Viva la Oichi!

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Thu Apr 1, 2010 1:52 am
Guys, you can use my house as HQ for the punishing raid. I'll try to get enough supplies and weapons, anything. That man has to go down. Give Basara another producer, and I'm sure so many things will change for the better....
But if we change to a new producer, BASARA might go even worse than Koba-era. It's a very risky gamble.

I think that rather than getting so overly pissy about this, just be glad that there's an update, not demanding way too much. BK made the right decision, don't treat BASARA 3 like the second coming of Jesus. If the update isn't like what you wanted, then you get pissy like hell. Such childish attitude.

Just be glad that there's an update, PERIOD. You don't want an announcement where Koba says "NO MORE CHARACTERS, PERIOD!", right?
Then ppl wont buy the game. If Koba's sick idea of a big roster is including npcs.. then the guy needs his head checked.

Anyway... Ichi lost her memory? Oh dear lord. Next thing you know she'll grow two heads and shoot fire out of her ears.
Edited by eklineage, Thu Apr 1, 2010 9:53 am.
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