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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
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The Outsider
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 7:06 pm
Akiro once posted that in Tsuruhimeīs thread:

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AS of now i'm not very happy with her. There is only so much you can do with an archer, i'm worried her mov set will either reflect Ranmaru too much, or be plain boring a la Nouhime.

Anyway, her Dumbfounded "innocent" personality makes it look like she will be a very rash, naive and stupid child. And she will be interfering with Aniki? Great, filler plotline anyone?

They cut a crapload of good people and give us her, not impressed capcom.
Of course she may end up being amazing, but even her outfit leaves me non plussed. SO as of now, she doesn't sit well with me.


I guess that didnīt change much...and I said Iīd wait for her video before I judge her...well...meh.

Maybe they paid some of the guys who write the Bleach/Naruto fillers and they came up with her. :mellow:

Oh well, I said Iīll wait till I judge Kobaīs actions, but even if thereīs huge roster, it wonīt change the fact that her seat couldīve gone to a female character who adds something to the BASARAverse. We allready have a filler girl and that one is by far the funnier one with her Pedo-fanboys screaming IT-SU-KI-CHAAAAAAAAAAN.
Why do we need a second? :huh:
Well, that certainly was'nt good :unsure: . I love my archers personally, so that is the only thing saving her for me right now,if she had absolutely anything else, I would be very disappointed.

And I know the answer to your question. If Itsuki has been removed, there will only now one 'filler' girl, Tsuruhime, and 'Pedo-Fanboys' won't have anyone :XD . Therefore she needs a replacement ^_^ .
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Well, then thatīs a dissapointing replacement. :mellow:

Though I heard that in the SB3 manga Itsuki makes an appearance, so her chance being in as an NPC is still alive, just like our love spreading "NO ZABII NO LIVE"-sama.

Nothing can replace the Itsuki-chan screaming fanboys...they are awesome :XD
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Apr 3, 2010 7:34 pm.
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 7:33 pm
Well, then thatīs a dissapointing replacement. :mellow:

Though I heard that in the SB3 manga Itsuki makes an appearance, so her chance being in as an NPC is still alive, just like our love spreading "NO ZABII NO LIVE"-sama.

Nothing can replace the Itsuki-chan screaming fanboys...they are awesome :XD
Yeah, I got a gut feeling she's NPC. Can just, I dunno ;) . I have never come across an Itsuki-chan fanboy before :XD , I'd like to meet one though :lol: .
Edited by The Outsider, Sat Apr 3, 2010 7:35 pm.
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Well, you can meet them on youtube :shifty:


Itīs a video of Yoshihiro vs. Itsuki.

Go forward to 4:10 and youīll see real hardcore Itsuki-fanboys. :P

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Yeah, I got a gut feeling she's NPC. Can just, I dunno . I have never come across an Itsuki-chan fanboy before , I'd like to meet one though.



IT-SUKI-CHAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

<__< >__> *AHEM*

I would say that I am about as close to an Itsuki-chan fanboy as one can get without going overboard like in the games ^___^. I just love her character <3 . Little hick mountain girl with the huge hammer sent from her god of the land who is just trying to protect her homeland from the ill effects all these rabid wars are bring upon it. I love her moveset and BASARA (ESPECIALLY when I have the havok reeking effects of her Ice elemental weapons), love taking out hordes of enemies via falling snowmen of doom and love using her hammer toss skill both for fast level traversal and boss beatdowns. She is even the first person I make whenever I wander into the CAW sections of Koei games just to test how good the editor is. The fact that she voices Soifon in Bleach makes it even more lulzy for me.
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:lol: , that chant ant 4:10 was disgusting :lol: , in a good way. I can so imagine that happening in 16th Century Japan ;) .

Really AdawgDaFAB, you even make her in Koei CAW. I guess you can always put her in SW3 and give her Yoshihiro's moveset, then you're sorted. No flying snowballs though unfortunately :lol: .

When I first completed Devil Kings and I was watching the credits, a name came up as 'Puff' :lol: , I was so convinced it was gonna be a boy, all sorts of stuff was going through my head. Then I fought her, and learnt she was a girl :blush: . That's just how I discovered her.

Yoshihiro was in Devil Kings too, he was'nt a PC, but was in Basara. So, by the looks of it, he is the only confirmed one at the moment who I'll be able to play who I should have been able too in DK. I won't be getting Mitsuhide, or probably Toshiie, but I will be getting Yoshihiro and 'possibly' Matsu, that's half at least :) .
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 6:11 pm
I meant that for the female ones. (Hisahide is out of the timeline, just like Motonari...they are immortal :whistle: )

I mean, afterall, we have so many females that were alive during the Sekigahara setting or a bit before it, that have more reason to be in than Tsuruhime...

Gothic Gracia doesnīt sound cool? Cyborg Inahime is boring? Hero of light and darkness Chacha sounds uninteresting?

Well, why not add a small school girl who chases down Motochika because heīs a baddy bad pirate and thus lectures him with a BANG*? :mellow:

Yeah, great. If the BASARA team really is that desperate searching for good female adds, then they shouldīve just asked our LadyGetsuei. She couldīve told them about some additions thatīd make actually sense :hmmm:

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About Hideaki and Motonari...Hideaki is the master of cooking, so it means give troops food. I can allready see Motonari lecturing Hideaki that he should only provide whatīs necessary for his pawns...ah...troops to barely stay alive. Food doesnīt need to taste good, itīs only there to keep them alive till he can sacrifice them in his plans...I mean use them to protect the lands of the Mori clan :ph43r:
Thank you thats so nice. Ahhh I feel so loved here :XD

*sigh* Ginchiyo, Nana(right BK :shifty: ), Inahime, Nene(zombified lol ), Koma, Taiga Gamo, Chiyome, Yae(Ok, maybe not Yae :whistle: ) all great female additions.

With Tsuru in they might as well have put in Tomoe Gozen instead.....Much better choice if they wanted a female that lived long before Nobunaga even ruled. At least Tomoe would have looked cool......

About my absence...Balder half right. I did have to do some(not much though..I'm way to lazy) studying. But I also have volleyball practice(I finally was voted captain this year).And I was watching D.Gray-Man(BEST ANIME EVER!!!!!!) and playing other video games of course :P .
Plus I had a little party. I got my SAT scores back and I did really well!!! I nearly fainted when I saw that I did as well as most high school seniors. I (as well as other 7th graders) got invited to this congratulations ceremony thing in Sarasota. My reading aand essay scores were okay... but my math was freakin skyrocketed. I was surprised by the fact my math score was reeaaalllyyy high, much more than my reading (which is usually a better than my math).

Ah, but I'm sure ya'll don't want to hear about my piss-poor life so I'll spare you the details.

And the argument that Hisahide has as little importance as Tsuru is invalid. Hisahide's "BANG" usually looks epic. Tsuru's "BANG" is made of frickin' pink rainbows and butterflies!
Like seriously........wtf? :blink:

Ukita Hideie is a MUST. Seriously! If he isn't in...then....AAARRGGGFFHHUU.

Oh and for the record BDS female Characters like Itsuki and Kasuga don't usually appeal to us girls for obvious reasons(boing boing?, ITSUUKII-CHANN) Its usually girls like Oichi and Matsu that do (pretty girls that can whoop a**? Hell to the yeah!).


:ph43r: UkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkitaUkita :heart:
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Whenever I hear Ukita I always picture a very femenine man with white skinny jeans. XD

I really can't picture him any way, I always think he is going to be all glamorous. even drew a picture of how I thought he was going to look like

@DK: Why thank you, we can only hope he will be grim and sadistic, he definitely still looks crazy and sadistic. :crazy:
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Didn't we already go through all the whining about Tsuruhime already? And it mostly stopped after her video was released and people explained who she was?
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Ugh, you reminded me I have to study for my exams after Easter *headdesk*

But I agree with Lady G, Kasuga is really pretty and sexy and all and I like her moveset but the boobs and the orgasms aren't for me. Itsuki is cute too, but as far as I'm concerned she's just there to bring out Masamune's caring side. Tsuru I'm not too sure about yet, it really depends on her story, but for the most part she seems to be a comic relief character.

Now Matsu, Oichi and Maggie, three strong (and slightly crazy) women who can take care of themselves in a fight and lead a province/please their man? AWESOME!! :wub:

If Ginchiyo isn't included I'll be really disappointed, she was a good example of a woman daimyo at the time. And if they're going to include another kunoichi, then they may as well use one that actually existed like Chiyome (unless they pull a SW Nene on us).

Ina I really don't know, though I'm not keen on the idea of her being a robot. Garasha of course, and Yodo or her sisters too, but with Oichi playable I have a feeling their chances have gone down. I'd also love Koma to be referred to at least, since her death was the reason Yoshiaki decided to join Ieyasu.

As for the SB wives, I'm not holding out much hope. Like it or not, the fujoshis make up a good percentage of the fan demographic, and I doubt Kobapii would want to lose them... :rolleyes:

Another girl I think could be an interesting addition is Katou Yashushi, sometimes called Otsune. Her family were good friends with the Maeda, and she became famous for defending her castle against Sassa Narimasa and his 15000 men with only 300. Toshiie even gave her money as a reward for her bravery right before his death. Yes please!! :D
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 9:10 pm
Didn't we already go through all the whining about Tsuruhime already? And it mostly stopped after her video was released and people explained who she was?
*shrugs* other people brought it up.

I certainly don't hate Tsuru I actually REALLY like her. Just saying there are other better female choices to put in than her.
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Mitsuhide's gone so I guess we have room for a new scythe wielder as well as a naginata user.

Can't forget dual swords, claws, and also the traditional sword and shield.

Would be cool if we could have a character that uses weapons like those stylish blades of chaos from the God of War series.
Edited by eklineage, Sat Apr 3, 2010 9:40 pm.
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 9:24 pm
As for the SB wives, I'm not holding out much hope. Like it or not, the fujoshis make up a good percentage of the fan demographic, and I doubt Kobapii would want to lose them... :rolleyes:

Well...he allready skipped the two of the most loved SB character Kojuuro and Sasuke. He even completely cut the allways loved Hanbei and thus his famous voice actor.

And if we look at the newest "manly" additions, they donīt really fit into the whole "what JP fangirls want" cliche.

Itīs good to see that they distance themsevles from that "own religion"...but they shouldnīt really overdo it... :ph43r:

And yes, Seraphil, it was over. But I brought it up again. Sorry about that, but I said I wait with my judgement, untill Iīve seen her video, but totally forgot about it, since I was just glad that her voice isnīt THAT annoying.

Now with the impending "there may be a small roster" thing in the back of our heads, I feel even more, that itīs a wasted FEMALE character spot, as LadyGetsuei and Koen have proven now. -_-

If Ginchiyo isnīt added, than itīs more than a farce. By the way, Tsuruhime was added to fill up regions right? Isnīt the Kyushu region in dire need too? And she would be a strong and interesting female too...ok, letīs wait till the end. Thereīs still time for Ginchiyo, Hideie and Takatora to be added. :whistle:

But times not unlimited Koba. Donīt. forget. that. :mellow:

@eklineage:

Yeah, thought about something like that for Hanzo. Having clawchains or something like that hidden in his sleeve, while keeping poison needles in his mouth and other weapons somewhere in his clothes, body...well...just like the Ninjas in legends.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Apr 3, 2010 9:46 pm.
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Woah, this thread is really booming today! :blink:

Katsuie ?

The image with the supposed Shibata Katsuie confronting Oichi. TBH, I would love to see "Oni Shibata" in the series, especially if his concept is similar to the one in the artwork. I do, however, agree that it'd be a nice change of pace if Ichi wasn't over shadowed by her lover for once, so perhaps he should stay out of this one, just so we can see Ichi evolve without a husband to lean on. And by evolve, I don't mean go pyscho and kill the Demon King of the 6th heaven. I mean, it'd be nice to see her smile on her pretty face for once :/

Still, with Tenkai perhaps manipulating her, and Ichi herself loosing her memories, I don't know if it'd even make any difference. I suppose I'm 50/50 on Katsuie's addition in this game, but I think it'd be more than interesting to see him in future installments. Especially with a design similar to that of the painting above.

I don't know about you guys, but he looks pretty "robotic" to me. I could definitely see a Beauty and the Beast theme happening. Maybe people name him "Oni Shibata" for his hideous and unatural appearance, but deep down, he's of gentle nature. I know it sounds corny, but perhaps Katsuie's only goal is to make Ichi smile. A story revolving around this goal could be pretty emotional, a trait which Ichi is known for, especially when Katsuie's end inevitably arrives...

Sorry for going off the Tsuru subject, but I don't really comment on it.

Also, NDY, I've seen your a fan of Kennyo... Sorry if I sound rude, but whats his appeal to you? Did you like him historically, or are you just into his BASARA personality...?
Edited by Manta Punk, Sat Apr 3, 2010 10:20 pm.
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Well...NDY isnīt the only one...I gotta admit...Iīm a anonym Kennyo fan...well...now Iīm not anonym anymore :D

Well, I donīt know whatīs it for NDY, but to me heīs more of a personification of the Ikko Ikki sect. And that one opposed Nobunaga for a veeeeery long time.

I mean even after the things he did to threaten the rebels...they just didnīt stop. And they survived all this time. Kennyo even got his temple back thanks to Hideyoshi.

Also, I like his muscle and money driven character + his muslced monk followers. His taunt, were he digs in the ground for money and just finds a piece of dirt is funny. But sometimes he even finds a piece of gold and is all surprised and then just keeps it :P .
Heīs my favourite "fun" character.

So my top 5 of the three categories Iīve mention constantly in the last few days are:

Man = Hisahide -> Kotaro -> Motonari -> Motochika -> Ieyasu
Female = Matsu -> Oichi -> Kasuga -> Itsuki -> Magoichi
Comic relief = Kennyo -> Ujimasa -> Zabii -> Yoshimoto ->Itsuki (I mostly like her because of her fanboys :lol: )
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What? No Keiji? Damn...
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Why don't you like Magoichi? Is it because of her supposed "man-face"? :shifty:

Also, I watched Ieyasu's gameplay vid again today, and I noticed something. Above Sasuke's head there is a glowing symbol, it looks like a padlock. Do you think this means that defeating Sasuke gives you an unlockable item of some sort (or maybe even a character)? :ph43r:
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don't if i have posted here but really really glad to see oichi here, im glad shes back

And about the whole tsuru thing well, if ginchiyo isn't in and she is i think i will just possibly kill the whole basara time, NO SURVIVORS

But seriously Ginchiyo needs to be in this, and although she would be on the "evil" side i hope she is nice, and kind different than the others, only on mitsunaris team because of loyalty, i can just really see a rivalry between her and Magoichi and/or Tadakatsu :cool:
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Well, heīs not the kind of comic relief character I really like, since he has a serious back story and can become serious if he has to.

But for the tough guys, heīs too soft and too much of a comic relief character.

I mean Hisahide made Hideyoshi into tyrant, burned down a whole temple with a huge Buddha statue and takes hostages.

Kotaro doesnīt even talk. Thatīs how badass he is.

Motonari is an intelligent man and I love his voice + his green outfit. The "donīt give **** about what happens to those that are willing to give their life for me" attitude doesnīt hurt either :shifty:

Motochika is a one eyed pirate. Nuff said.

Ieyasu is a boxer that uses his hands to create a future for the war torn japan. His spot was nearly taken by Masamune, but a selfless hero like the SB3 Ieyasu does deserve a spot on my top 5 list.

As for the girls?

I havenīt played as Magoichi yet and her colors are a bit bland for my taste, thatīs why she only got the 5th place. Also I like strong women (Kasuga is a strong women too, she fights for the man she loves, just like Matsu and Oichi) with Itsuki being the exception because sheīs not only cute with her voice and the snowman attacks + the fanboys(damn she voices Soifon? :OMG: )
But Magoichi might still get the axe when we see the SB version of (hopefully) Ginchiyo. :shifty:
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 10:58 pm
Why don't you like Magoichi? Is it because of her supposed "man-face"? :shifty:

Also, I watched Ieyasu's gameplay vid again today, and I noticed something. Above Sasuke's head there is a glowing symbol, it looks like a padlock. Do you think this means that defeating Sasuke gives you an unlockable item of some sort (or maybe even a character)? :ph43r:
Probably her "man face" lol. Oichi, Kasuga and Tsuru have very feminine faces. I dunno.. she looks different from the side than she does in the front. She may not have the best face but the rest of her physical qualities are superior to the current basara female cast :whistle:

Anyway I really hope they add some cool costumes. I love playing my favourite characters in different skins.
Edited by eklineage, Sat Apr 3, 2010 11:36 pm.
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Manta Punk
Sat Apr 3, 2010 10:18 pm
Woah, this thread is really booming today! :blink:

Katsuie ?

The image with the supposed Shibata Katsuie confronting Oichi. TBH, I would love to see "Oni Shibata" in the series, especially if his concept is similar to the one in the artwork. I do, however, agree that it'd be a nice change of pace if Ichi wasn't over shadowed by her lover for once, so perhaps he should stay out of this one, just so we can see Ichi evolve without a husband to lean on. And by evolve, I don't mean go pyscho and kill the Demon King of the 6th heaven. I mean, it'd be nice to see her smile on her pretty face for once :/

Still, with Tenkai perhaps manipulating her, and Ichi herself loosing her memories, I don't know if it'd even make any difference. I suppose I'm 50/50 on Katsuie's addition in this game, but I think it'd be more than interesting to see him in future installments. Especially with a design similar to that of the painting above.

I don't know about you guys, but he looks pretty "robotic" to me. I could definitely see a Beauty and the Beast theme happening. Maybe people name him "Oni Shibata" for his hideous and unatural appearance, but deep down, he's of gentle nature. I know it sounds corny, but perhaps Katsuie's only goal is to make Ichi smile. A story revolving around this goal could be pretty emotional, a trait which Ichi is known for, especially when Katsuie's end inevitably arrives...

Sorry for going off the Tsuru subject, but I don't really comment on it.

Also, NDY, I've seen your a fan of Kennyo... Sorry if I sound rude, but whats his appeal to you? Did you like him historically, or are you just into his BASARA personality...?
cool i never seen tsuchi art with characters that didnt appear in the game is it confirmed to be katsuie and is there any other art with characters who didnt appear



ohhh and koen i watched the vid and i dont see what you are talking about but that would be cool to get a character from defeating one
Edited by DarkMantisTalon, Sun Apr 4, 2010 12:13 am.
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Sat Apr 3, 2010 10:18 pm
Woah, this thread is really booming today! :blink:

Katsuie ?

The image with the supposed Shibata Katsuie confronting Oichi. TBH, I would love to see "Oni Shibata" in the series, especially if his concept is similar to the one in the artwork. I do, however, agree that it'd be a nice change of pace if Ichi wasn't over shadowed by her lover for once, so perhaps he should stay out of this one, just so we can see Ichi evolve without a husband to lean on. And by evolve, I don't mean go pyscho and kill the Demon King of the 6th heaven. I mean, it'd be nice to see her smile on her pretty face for once :/
:OMG: :OMG: :OMG: , are you suggesting a possible Katsuie :OMG: , after what I said earlier wishing he was in. If he was, I would just cry with utter happiness. Is that a 'joke' image or a genuine possibility. I don't care if he was robotic or not, or if he was dead at that point, I really don't care. Just imagine Katsuie, Oichi and Matsu together :XD (faints).
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Manta Punk
Sat Apr 3, 2010 10:18 pm
Woah, this thread is really booming today! :blink:

Katsuie ?

The image with the supposed Shibata Katsuie confronting Oichi. TBH, I would love to see "Oni Shibata" in the series, especially if his concept is similar to the one in the artwork. I do, however, agree that it'd be a nice change of pace if Ichi wasn't over shadowed by her lover for once, so perhaps he should stay out of this one, just so we can see Ichi evolve without a husband to lean on. And by evolve, I don't mean go pyscho and kill the Demon King of the 6th heaven. I mean, it'd be nice to see her smile on her pretty face for once :/
:OMG: :OMG: :OMG: , are you suggesting a possible Katsuie :OMG: , after what I said earlier wishing he was in. If he was, I would just cry with utter happiness. Is that a 'joke' image or a genuine possibility. I don't care if he was robotic or not, or if he was dead at that point, I really don't care. Just imagine Katsuie, Oichi and Matsu together :XD (faints).
That was Oichi's concept art for SB2:H I think, so its genuine. :mellow: I don't know if that was confirmed as to be Katsuiie, but its highly possible. It doesn't mean he will be in the game though, it could just have been Tsuchi (the head designer and concpet artist for BASARA) fooling around and sticking what he wants KAtsuiie to look like in there. :mellow: Would be cool if he was in though.
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That was Oichi's concept art for SB2:H I think, so its genuine. :mellow: I don't know if that was confirmed as to be Katsuiie, but its highly possible. It doesn't mean he will be in the game though, it could just have been Tsuchi (the head designer and concpet artist for BASARA) fooling around and sticking what he wants KAtsuiie to look like in there. :mellow: Would be cool if he was in though.
Even if it was for then, a possibility is a possibility right :XD ? He could be in and just be a NPC, I would'nt care, just Katsuie being there would be cool. Knowing Basara though they would probably make him to be some right evil guy though as Basara thrives off exaggeration. He would probably literally be a 'Devil' and be real mean :meantongue: . Not like I'd care, Katsuie, 'IS' Katsuie ^_^ .
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Well, for now, I know we say that often, but credit goes to the secret keeper McScrooge Kobayashi, we donīt know.

We can only speculate. There has been a Tsubayashi art of Nobunaga, in his young days, before he wore his 6th Demon King cape and armor and before he got all...well...posessed, indicating a "how did Nobunaga become like this"-story themed game.

And thereīs also been this:

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showing Musashi, facing a warrior on a horse and a lot, myself included, assumed it indicates that Sasaki Kojiro mightīve been planned as one of the SB2 or SB2:Heroes characters, just like Katsuie, since those are SB2 Tsuchi arts.

Musashi faced Kojiro in Sengoku BASARA Battle Heroes but it turned out to be the NPC Naoe Kanetsugu. So that indicated that they are allready aware that Musashi misses something or someone. But even a headless bird wouldīve guessed something obvious like that and now with the Sekigahara setting it would be the best chance to exactly do that. Though the chances stay dim for now <_<

Same for Katsuie, even so Nagamasaīs out of the race and Oichi would need something to enhance her story, Katsuie shouldnīt be around that time anymore and Iīd say, Katsuie should be added another time, best when they finally make a game about Hideyoshiīs era, explaining his past and future and who would make a better rival for Hideyoshi than Katsuie? :sly:

So they should wait with his inclusion for a more appropriate time. I mean afterall that would be the time for Maeda Keiji and Toshiie to shine also others like the Mori and those who lived on Kyushu and Shikoku.

BTW...early may...isnīt there the E3? Do you think CAPCOM makes a move and finally announces SB:SH? I mean just announce it with maybe some english trailer or at least subtitles so people understand what the game is about? So people know it actually still exists and comes out sometime? Whoīd remember some japanese game that was announced back then at the TGS09, when even we, the hardcore fans, had to keep ourselves up with fantasy scenarios, so we wouldnīt lose interest? :/

I just got to that point since Iīm waiting for a Twisted Metal announcement and I just heard they wonīt do it on E3. I think something like that is pointless. At such big conferences, all eyes are set upon it and every, even if itīs pointless, information will be sucked up by the stunned gamers.

Itīs a perfect chance to showcase a new game. Especially if you count in that itīd be around 4 months till the game probably comes out, if we can believe Amazon.com. -_-
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sun Apr 4, 2010 1:25 am.
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