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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:17 am Post #4201 |
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Old men aficionado
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@ Eklineage: for some reason your idea of a male orgasming ninja is hilarious! I doubt they'll put Aya Gozen in the game, but it'd be nice to see a man drooling over a woman, for a change.... @ FXI: Even if the attacking speed remains the same, this time she attacks only using the demon hands, so it's almost like she switched to a mid-long range weapon...at least judging from the scans. By the way, she's sure Koba's favorite, isn't she...she was put in the game and even given a substantial story-moveset rehaul. Only Ieyasu achieved so much, and he's the main character... |
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| wodash | Mon Apr 5, 2010 12:27 pm Post #4202 |
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undefeated in all directions
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well,since nobunaga,and hanbei is gone and tenkai+sasuke is unplayable,the roster representing dark element is severely lacking,i can see why they revamp oichi so much... anyways,no new scripts for SBBH? |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon Apr 5, 2010 7:34 pm Post #4203 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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Also, if Koba is desperate enough to add Tsuruhime, just for the fun of it...or cause thereīs a lack of female characters, with Noh cut and Kasuga as a NPC + Itsukiīs and Matsuīs fates unknown...then itīs clear that heīll do whatever it takes to keep his promise of adding more females, even if it means to add characters that add not much to the storyline. Also, it would be a shame, "wasting" allready existing and interesting characters, even if it means to "break the rules a bit", again. Though if Matsu really is a NPC, Iīll doubt that Koba is a human being Also, I just came across some interesting history facts (just correct me if I tell something stupid ):Kennyo Kosa and Takeda Shingen were actually brothers-in-law. Thatīs interesting, hope they focus on that a bit more, to give Kosa a good story in the next games, I mean, afterall he was a big enemy of Nobunaga, is brother-in-law of Takeda Shingen and had some relations with the Saika bunch. So itīs possible to make him more serious, ainīt it? Also, about Shingenīs death, I allways heard he died of an illness...but I heard in January 1573, after the battle of Mikatagahara, Shingen laid siege to a fortress called Noda, which lay in Ieyasuīs territory. Shingen was a great fan of arts and heard some beautifull music playing in the fortress so he got closer in order to listen to it, cause he thought, that they wouldnīt guard it that tight, in other words he was a bit careless. But soldiers at their watchpost saw and recognized him and thus started to shoot at him. He later died of those wounds. So that would give some historical backround + hints, why Shingen is bedridden and Yukimura fights against Ieyasu. And the most surprising thing: Matsunaga Hisahide was not only Nobunagaīs ally for a while but also SAVED HIS LIFE IN HELPING HIM TO RETREAT Story is: When Nobunaga started his attack at the Asakura and the Azai (Asai but lets stay with the known name) "betrayed" Nobunaga and threatend his rear, Ieyasu and Matsunaga Hisahide both advised to reatreat now. Hisahide had a friend who was the lord of the castle of Kuchigi in Omi and they went to ask him for a guide who knew the area for possible by-roads that ran through that part to Ohara and Kyoto. Matsunaga even went in fully prepared to kill his old friend if he refused, but didnīt need to since he offered them help immediately and thus they avoided the high roads and got Nobunagaīs forces safely to the capital. So without Hisahideīs help, Nobunaga might not have had such a safe retreat, since it was a dangerous time for him facing the Azai and the Asakura. When I read the part about "went in fully prepared to kill his friend if he refused", I started to smile thinking about, what the SB Hisahide would do? But itīs funny. History-wise Hisahide was, even if it wasnīt for long, Nobuangaīs ally and helped through a dangerous situation. EDIT: About elements: Tokugawa Ieyasu - Light Ishida Mitsunari - Darkness Date Masamune - Lightning Sanada Yukimura - Fire Ōtani Yoshitsugu - Neutral/Uknown? Honda Tadakatsu - Lightning Oichi - Darkness Chōsokabe Motochika - Fire Mōri Motonari - Light Saika Magoichi - Neutral/Unkown? Uesugi Keiji - Wind Kuroda Kanbei - Wind Shimazu Yoshihiro - Lightning Tsuruhime - Ice Light - 2 Darkness - 2 Fire - 2 Ice - 1 Lightning - 3 Wind - 2 Neutral/Unkown? - 2 Even if Magoichi turns out to be Fire and Yoshitsugu (darkness cause heīs evil, wind cause he has the strange air circles?) it looks like they balanced it out a bit, at the moment. If Kotaro and Matsu are added who are both probably wind again, we would have 4 wind users. With the addition of Hisahide weīd have around 3/4 fire users (depends on Magoichi) I mean, in past games we had a 100 lightning users but barely a ice and wind users. So maybe this time they balance it out with say, 3 to 4 characters each element? Thereīs also the chances of non-elemental characters like maybe Yoshitsugu and Muashi. At least I hope itīs like that, since a NPC using ice element like a God...Non-playable character...and a cranie girl using it to shoot sparkly pink ice arrows + the hope of two other ice users who are probably non-playable (old man Ujimasa and cutsie girl Itsuki) isnīt that satisfiying for my favourite element
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| The Outsider | Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:04 pm Post #4204 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Don't even go there with Matsu being cut, she is the one woman who really, really should'nt be, bias aside . She just, has to be. I'd say 5% chance she's cut, 55% chance she'll be an NPC, 40% chance she'll be PC, I reckon.Is Yoshitsigu actually confirmed as evil then ? I just though he was meant to be odd looking due too his skin disease. Not saying he's odd 'because' of the disease, just explains why he's all bandaged. He looks either darkness or Wind to me though in all honesty. Fire characters are the ones for me , Motochika looks so badass, can't wait to play him, his gameplay video should be arriving soon right . If Itsuki is gone (as she probably is), we really, really need some more ice.
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:19 pm Post #4205 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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Yes, he is definietly one of the bad guys. Well, since "bad" is a harsh word, since it seems that the known "BASARA-black&white"-theme now completely dissapears. Characters like Nobunaga and Mitsuhide screamed: EVILZ! It got a bit blurry with Hideyoshi in SB2 as itīs main villain. While he acts like a tyrant, he does it all for the future of japan. Now we have a character who lost the one and only person he cared for and thus screams around IEYASUUUUUU!!!, gives in to his rage and thus forgets about the future of japan or anyone else as long as he can get his revenge. And Yoshitsugu who has a terrible disease which must not only hurt, but also made him look like he looks now + he canīt walk anymore. Of course the pain and suffering can turn a man crazy and thus he manipulates those around him (not too sure whatīs his relation to Mitsunari though) to reach a world were suffering and death reign. So yeah, those two are probably the tragic villains, that arenīt really "that" bad. Though the recent manga chapter, which NDY told us about, makes me think that Mitsunari was a "little bad psycho" to begin with
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| Ouelis | Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:43 pm Post #4206 |
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That's actually one of the things that I look forward to the most about the story. Everybody rags on Mitsunari for being "emo"(I hate that word, makes me feel sticky typing it) but I find his motivation rather compelling. And not just that he's obviously lost in his rage and despair over losing Hideyoshi and screams Ieyasu's name over and over, even though he certainly does that a lot, but I can sympathize with how he feels. There's a line in the trailer where he says something to the effect of "What did I ever do to you?" that just gives me sort a sad feeling from him. While I doubt that they had a overly friendly relationship, I really want to know more about Mitsunari and Ieyasu's interacting in the days of them serving under Hideyoshi. It'll shine more light on just how betrayed Mitsunari feels. That's what bothers me about Nobunaga and Mitsuhide. While Mitsuhide kinda gets away with it because he's that kind of perverted, deranged lunatic that skates by on the insane card I never liked Nobunaga because he was just so comically evil and it feels so stale and generic.
Yeah, I'd like to hear some more about that as well. I can see that Mitsunari would have bit of that in him, but he strikes me more of a ruthless bastard and not just evil for the sake of evil. |
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| eklineage | Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:48 pm Post #4207 |
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God of the Valkyrur
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If he does put a male ninja like that. He might do something crazy in order to make me rage. Like... make that ninja into Hanzo Hattori himself... *shivers* As for oichi... i hope they still keep her little jump dialogue for the japanese version. I found it adorable how she says "hai" every time you press the jump button lol. Yes... and I'm not afraid to admit it either.
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| Flashbang Incentive | Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:59 pm Post #4208 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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I also find Mitsunari's motivation awesome. I like that, the revenge thing he has going on. I always hate when they make a character lose everything, go for his revenge, and then at the end, the writers make him regret going for his revenge. It just doesn't make sense. Let's say one of the characters loses all of his family by one person, the series, or movie, is about this character trying to kill the person because he killed his family. He kills him, then gets mad because of it. I just don't get it, at the end I'm always like, um.....wtf? Anyway, I am going to make the Western side, my favorite side. I always gotta pick a side when I'm going into a game for the first time, heh heh. But it's hard for me to pick a side because Masamune is on one and Yukimura is on the other. But the best thing about their characters is their rivalry, so I can't complain. I'm sorry for making that stupid post about that huge guy in the HD scans. It's probably because I am 11, lol! |
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| Watchtower | Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:02 am Post #4209 |
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A True Musou Star
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Oh GOD, weeks spent trying to repair and restore my computer after a TV Tropes link led me to a virus-infected DeviantART page (btw, when did THAT happen), and hours spent trying to catch up with the 15+ pages that I've missed, and what do I find? The Basara page going through an emotional roller coaster that's left me confused and questioning the board's sanity. Sorry to sound harsh, but I'm just a little PO'd today. So let's catch up: Let me bang this outta the way: I am satisfied with Kanbei and Tsuru's gameplay vids. Kanbei looks like a freakin beast, and Tsuru brings a nice touch to the archery style. And Motochika's fortress looks amazing. Now for the characters. I'm glad that Oichi's in. Her new dark hand weapon seems like a nice touch going for a more characteristic approach, and the whole "amnesiac" schtick is cliche, but can be a cliche done right. Hideaki looks f***ing hysterical, and I'm gonna enjoy kicking his ass. Tenkai's also nice, but the "disguise" could use work (Seriously, Mitsuhide, you're not fooling anyone). I just hope he stays the sadistic psychopath that we all love. I'm actually shocked that all of the info's already up, and that we could see a bi-weekly or tri-weekly pattern. What are you up to, Koba? And while everyone's busy speculating, who was the one who suggested showing Oichi's daughters as identical triplets? I STILL SUPPORT THAT IDEA DAMMIT! |
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| Mo Hae | Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:55 am Post #4210 |
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Han's Unifier
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That triplet idea would be great!Its not historical, but Capcom does a great job with making up new storylines with these games.Chacha would be the dark one of course( with a touch of hero/tragedy in her), just like Oichi!Afterall, she was said to have looked just like her mother. The middle daughter, Ohatsu could be the one who kind of takes in everything thats going on, and tries to help everyone around her.She witness Chacha's mental breakdown, while not letting the youngest sister Ogo know whats going on. Ogo would be, I guess the new Itsuki?Energetic, happy-go-lucky.She would try to block out the past, and doesnt want to have any pain in her life. |
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| Watchtower | Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:35 am Post #4211 |
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Interesting, the "Different as Day and Night" twin scenario, modified for triplets. A Day, a Night, and a Midday (half-and-half), so to speak. I had actually forgotten about that. I support the triplet idea only because identical characters aren't done that much, and this seemed like a realistic "history with a twist" thing that Capcom's going for. Ah well, sounds like a bit of a stretch, though. I have absolutely no clue how it would fit into the anime/manga, let alone the game itself. |
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:02 am Post #4212 |
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The one who suggested the idea for triplets would be me. Anyway.. they would have to be... since well... how else are we gonna explain 3 daughters just appearing out of nowhere AND they are all different in age. It's just easier to say they are triplets. Also for the fact that Oichi deserves SOMETHING to remember Nagamasa by. |
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| Jonathan Joestar | Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:20 pm Post #4213 |
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Hamon User.
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hmmm..someone to inherit Nagamasa Spirit as a Hero of Justice(I'm a Sentai fan) and the idea of a Female ranger sounds nice to me.... |
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:33 pm Post #4214 |
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God of the Valkyrur
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Considering she is the daughter of a female Demon and a Power Ranger. A fitting move set would be to summon phantom swords. She's not holding anything. When she makes a striking movement with her hand.. a blue flaming phantom sword appears out of nowhere, momentarily on contact and disappears shortly after. Basara can be growing glowing wings and while she floats in the air... swords start flying all over the arena like a sandstorm. Kinda like Vergil's little "glass" swords. I'm wondering if this is easy to visualize lol. I would have said sword and shield but that weapon choice seems ideal for Ginchiyo. I also had an idea that it would be cool if Basara could add a character like Chiyome and give her the moveset of Mokujin from Tekken lol. The twist is... she randomly copies the moveset of any of the NPCs. The moveset is randomly chosen every stage. Edited by eklineage, Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:47 pm.
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| Jonathan Joestar | Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:47 pm Post #4215 |
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Hamon User.
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"HIkari to Yami" Hmmp I like the Idea of the sword and shield, it represet perfect the balance beetwen Light and darkness,the evil sword and the justice shield!!!!! Well if Ginchiyo make to this game...I seriously can think in a weapon for her...the only think i want is she is not represented as a Female Knight(aka KOEI Ginchiyo) Edited by Jonathan Joestar, Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:50 pm.
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:50 pm Post #4216 |
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That would be a twist. First dual element character of basara mainly cuz she would be holding a darkness sword and a light shield. She could wear the Azai crest to try and bring her mother's memory back. She could later on fight Mitsuhide...errr.. Tenkai who seems to be manipulating her. I will lol if she wears her father's helmet. I dunno... maybe she can team up with Gracia along the way lol. Gracia could... just.... wield one really really really big scythe? No loli please. Edited by eklineage, Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:59 pm.
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| Jonathan Joestar | Tue Apr 6, 2010 5:57 pm Post #4217 |
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Hamon User.
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She can Transform with the Azai Crest!!!!!! Sorry fanBoy Dream Yeah...Loli Gracia is just to Meh.... Maybe a Rival Between Light and Darkness???? hmmm SOunds goo to me |
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 6, 2010 6:53 pm Post #4218 |
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@Jonathan Joestar Lol... it could be a 3 man...err woman... er... girl team of Gracia, Ina, and Ichi's daughter. Ina could shoot a particle beam out of her mouth... or a... a....dual chest particle beam cannon.
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| Zankai | Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:14 pm Post #4219 |
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私はここですよ......
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Agreed, dual chest particle cannon = epic win
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:53 pm Post #4220 |
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that does sound cool but i perfer ina as a double crossbow wielder or just a regular archer i can see a 3 girl team of a giant sythe wielding gracia, a cyborg archer ina, and a light and dark sword summoning chacha
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| Gakupo | Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:58 pm Post #4221 |
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If Ina made it in and had a move like that I'd be calling out "Giga Smasher" everytime she used it
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| necrosis | Tue Apr 6, 2010 9:19 pm Post #4222 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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So in the midst of all this dreaming and speculation, does anyone out there think you'll get more info in famitsu this week? : P |
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 6, 2010 9:21 pm Post #4223 |
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@DarkMantisTalon What if the 3 girl team starts crap with the current cast. I could see Gracia trying to pick a fight with Mago telling her that she acts like an barbaric cavehag. @Gakupo Gigaaaa Drilllllll Breakkkkk!?? |
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| Claus | Tue Apr 6, 2010 9:22 pm Post #4224 |
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Wasn't Ichi just shown last Week? If My memory is right she was, so I say no.
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| Ouelis | Tue Apr 6, 2010 10:08 pm Post #4225 |
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I don't understand why anyone would expect anything in this weeks Famitsu. Not saying that I'd turn it down were it to actually happen but we just had a update in it last week, and we have Tenkai and Kobayakawa's voices going up on Thursday together with Aniki's video so there's not an open slot this week like last week. At the very earliest we might see something next week, if we're VERY lucky. That's my take at least. |
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. She just, has to be. I'd say 5% chance she's cut, 55% chance she'll be an NPC, 40% chance she'll be PC, I reckon.
? I just though he was meant to be odd looking due too his skin disease. Not saying he's odd 'because' of the disease, just explains why he's all bandaged. He looks either darkness or Wind to me though in all honesty. Fire characters are the ones for me
, Motochika looks so badass, can't wait to play him, his gameplay video should be arriving soon right
. If Itsuki is gone (as she probably is), we really, really need some more ice.







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