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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,169 Views)
AdventGreatness
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robotzombie
Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:00 am
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 12:58 am
Hmm, I wonder if we'd see a new character from Moto's vid.
I was just going to ask, anyone got any guesses on who we'll be seeing in Motochika's vid?

Possibly the Maeda's, which would give a reason for their announcement this week?
I was thinking of the Mori's ?
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 12:45 am
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 12:39 am
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 12:25 am
Well obviously there are going to be more characters that we can play as right ? There are still more news in the weeks to come


I'm dissapointed in *B*DS' post, I was expecting Ragestorm suppreme. :mellow:
It's because I was expecting it half and half. I knew about Toshiie, just had a feeling so don't really care. Matsu, well yeah, she's an NPC, personally I'm very, very peed, but nothing I can do about it. It is wrong and un-necessary, she could have really flighted in this game, but at least I have Keiji for my Maeda goodness.

EDIT: Plus, this game is known for 'Heroes', a fulfilling expantion game. All I can do is keep optimistic and hope for that day, something I believe to be possible.
Thats very mature of you =D

@Blesside Pride: Swearing IS against the rules buddy. Also, What do you mean by "People Draw Too many Conclusions here"> Of course we're going to, we have nothing better to do. And fat chance on the Motochika Vid, if Koba was going to release a character he would show us in our face and be "Look! Here! A new character to sugar coat the NPCs!"

And we have already Seen the Mouri, so I wouldn't think we would see them again. :mellow:
Edited by Claus, Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:04 am.
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 12:56 am
BDS, I was disappointed too, lol.
In a way, Sarutobi Sasuke's NPC-ness is just as bad as the loverly couple's, but I think this game seems to be keeping to "one player per clan" it seems. So I'm just gonna use Keiji to clear the way, and adore all the cutscene's of Matsu I can get. In a way, like I always say, I like how some DW6 characters are clones, just gives more excite for the future, but that has just been the case for 2 years. I have been waiting for Matsu for 5 years (at minimum) and still my time has'nt arrived, just gotta look into the future and hope for another chance and get excited all over again :/ . Ah well, more appreciation when (and if) it happens, I'm too bummed to go off on one -_- :sad: .

Sorry :lol: .

EDIT: Thanks Akiro aswel ^_^
Edited by The Outsider, Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:05 am.
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Mouri has already been raped by Yuki
Crane girl is a choice but I prefer Ichi right now
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eklineage
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Am I missing something here? Why would ppl get angry if we talk about Koei in this thread? I know... I haven't been here too long.
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i didnt expect such a horrible update well im not to disapointed as most of you i just wanted to play as matsu or toshiie because ive never played SB2H so i was hoping to play them this time around well at least we can wish for some PCs on the 15th atleast 3 of them *cough*ukita*cough* well i can only hope after the move koba just pulled i will most likely buy SB3 to hold me over for the expantion
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:13 am
Am I missing something here? Why would ppl get angry if we talk about Koei in this thread? I know... I haven't been here too long.
I'll put it simply.

Random person makes remark about Koei, could be insulting it, could be a Koei fan using it to insult Basara
Random person #2 gets angry at said remark for insulting Either Basara or Koei, it depends on the situation
Random person #3 is also angry and makes a very long and very flawed and angry post that makes no sense in retort to Random person #1
Random person #4&5 get involved and call out Random Person #3's bad argument and points, ad they add some insults about what Random person #3 likes.
Random person#3 gets more angry and responds to random Persons #4&5's response and makes a very hate filled post full of insults angainst them.
That post gets Many more poeple involved and in the end it only leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouth. :mellow:
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:19 am
eklineage
Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:13 am
Am I missing something here? Why would ppl get angry if we talk about Koei in this thread? I know... I haven't been here too long.
I'll put it simply.

Random person makes remark about Koei, could be insulting it, could be a Koei fan using it to insult Basara
Random person #2 gets angry at said remark for insulting Either Basara or Koei, it depends on the situation
Random person #3 is also angry and makes a very long and very flawed and angry post that makes no sense in retort to Random person #1
Random person #4&5 get involved and call out Random Person #3's bad argument and points, ad they add some insults about what Random person #3 likes.
Random person#3 gets more angry and responds to random Persons #4&5's response and makes a very hate filled post full of insults angainst them.
That post gets Many more poeple involved and in the end it only leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouth. :mellow:
I am the "Random person #1" that brought up Koei. I simply said that this is better than what the DW6 team did
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Claus
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:21 am
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:19 am
eklineage
Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:13 am
Am I missing something here? Why would ppl get angry if we talk about Koei in this thread? I know... I haven't been here too long.
I'll put it simply.

Random person makes remark about Koei, could be insulting it, could be a Koei fan using it to insult Basara
Random person #2 gets angry at said remark for insulting Either Basara or Koei, it depends on the situation
Random person #3 is also angry and makes a very long and very flawed and angry post that makes no sense in retort to Random person #1
Random person #4&5 get involved and call out Random Person #3's bad argument and points, ad they add some insults about what Random person #3 likes.
Random person#3 gets more angry and responds to random Persons #4&5's response and makes a very hate filled post full of insults angainst them.
That post gets Many more poeple involved and in the end it only leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouth. :mellow:
I am the "Random person #1" that brought up Koei. I simply said that this is better than what the DW6 team did
That is exactly the type of comment I am talking about. That gets people going, untill someone says something stupid and it all blows up. Thats why I don't like negative comparisons between Basara and Mousu in this enviroment. Why? Because there are strong fans on both sides that will argue untill the very end.
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I too think Motochika will fight Tsuruhime...I wonder what kind of stage she has. Let's hope it alleviates our "pain", at least a little bit....reading this thread hurts lately...
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You can't be serious. Matsu and Toshiie both NPC? What about the one playable per clan? Are you telling me Keiji is gonna represent both clans? What is going on Kobayashi? If I don't see some decent info over this month I'll be questioning myself if I should buy this game.
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Wed Apr 7, 2010 10:59 am
Watch guys, that horrible %^&* character Itsucki will be in an playable instead of two actual good characters. Oh yeah, Matsunaga fans, don't hold your breath, either. The only good thing about this scan is that it sadly yet again proves that I'm right that Hiroyuki Kabayashi is gutting this game. Which is a bad thing. > : (
Ugh, don't remind me of that vile creature.

I hated how it decided to rear its annoying self on so many maps. I always aimed to kill it as quickly as possible so as to not hear its nauseating screams and whelps.

Anyway, what exactly are the new combat mechanics? I've heard of some new dash cancel or something, but that's it. I'm honestly only interested in this game for the combat, so it'll be difficult for me to be disappointed unless they make Itsuki a mandatory NPC ally or something.
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:24 am
BlessedPride
Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:21 am
Akiro
Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:19 am
eklineage
Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:13 am
Am I missing something here? Why would ppl get angry if we talk about Koei in this thread? I know... I haven't been here too long.
I'll put it simply.

Random person makes remark about Koei, could be insulting it, could be a Koei fan using it to insult Basara
Random person #2 gets angry at said remark for insulting Either Basara or Koei, it depends on the situation
Random person #3 is also angry and makes a very long and very flawed and angry post that makes no sense in retort to Random person #1
Random person #4&5 get involved and call out Random Person #3's bad argument and points, ad they add some insults about what Random person #3 likes.
Random person#3 gets more angry and responds to random Persons #4&5's response and makes a very hate filled post full of insults angainst them.
That post gets Many more poeple involved and in the end it only leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouth. :mellow:
I am the "Random person #1" that brought up Koei. I simply said that this is better than what the DW6 team did
That is exactly the type of comment I am talking about. That gets people going, untill someone says something stupid and it all blows up. Thats why I don't like negative comparisons between Basara and Mousu in this enviroment. Why? Because there are strong fans on both sides that will argue untill the very end.
Well imo the movesets alone in this game should appease everyone. They look great.
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Thu Apr 8, 2010 1:27 am
You can't be serious. Matsu and Toshiie both NPC? What about the one playable per clan? Are you telling me Keiji is gonna represent both clans? What is going on Kobayashi? If I don't see some decent info over this month I'll be questioning myself if I should buy this game.
actually,the maedas were always under the oda clan for previous SB games IIRC,and IMO oichi is the playable representative for both azai and oda in SB3,just like the uesugi/maeda double bill with keiji,smart no?
Edited by wodash, Thu Apr 8, 2010 2:50 am.
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About 24 hours from when I saw that news blurb....and well, it still hurts. ACE R's updates are also painful (I know you can't help it fully, Terada-don, but WHY?!?!?)

Much like when Hokuto Musou was announced (and now it's out, and I'm playing it), I think I need another "break" from SB3 (again). TRINITY: Zill O'll Zero is...some where out there, and should hopefully be released this summer.

Any thing's gotta be better than another round of heartbreaks from Koba.

I just don't understand the guy. Right now, he's doing the EXACT same **** as what happened in the transition from DMC3 -> DMC4. Adding so many new features, and a new character...but then the other shoe drops. A lot of what looked so good is half-baked, and worse yet, you get teased with other "look, but no touching!" type moments (re: Trish and Lady NOT being playable). And the only reason he can give?

"I thought it should be that way, because you should be able to see what looks good, but not have access to it!" - paraphrasing of his words in an old interview, when asked why Trish and Lady weren't in the game.


Yeah. Koba either needs to start REALLY showing something, or this really is going to be all like DMC4 for me all over again. Only THIS time, I won't be a sucker and put down hard money for it!
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I was hoping for some fireworks from BDS, but this is pleasant enough too. ^_^

I can't say anything positive about the game at the moment... sure, I could think about the new characters they already have shown, and the possible new characters that -might- come, but... eh, knowing that there are already a lot of NPCs (for bull**** reasons) and character cuts (understandable, but I hate that reason) just kind of make it obvious that they're aiming to squeeze more money out of the consumer. Sure, that's what any company does, but at the same time, you could at least be subtle about it.

Spectator Basara 3 seems the fitting title at this point... I'll finally get the chance to enjoy a series that I wanted to play but didn't want to do it illegally, and all I'm getting is a half-assed game that'll require another $40 to fully enjoy?

Blegh. Just blegh. I'm going to go watch videos on Youtube; bound to me more enjoyable than SB3 all together.

(Well, except Ieyasu riding on Tadakatsu... very few things in life can top that)

Edit: Wait, who's voice is suppose to be in the update tomorrow?
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Apr 8, 2010 3:56 am.
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New Chosokabe Motochika Gameplay Video!




SB3 Renders have been updated with latest characters
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New Chosokabe Motochika Gameplay Video!




SB3 Renders have been updated with latest characters
It's alright. I checked the main site, and man Hideaki sounds perfect! sounds like a coward. And Im not sure about Tenkei, sounds different but the ending sounds like Mitsuhide
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I am unable to watch the video on the site until tomorrow but anyone know what the video they have labeled for 4/22 is? Is it going to be a new trailer or the intro that was shown previously?
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Oichi's hands are badass!


About Toshiie & Matsu: the Maeda have kept a neutral position from the Oda's fall until Sekigahara, but repeated pressure from the eastern army forces Toshiie to choose a side. Matsu has been taken hostage by the eastern army for this reason.



Motochika's vid:


Masamune: here you are...well, why not? I need to lift my spirits sometimes!

Kojuro: Lord Masamune, please do not indulge in such jokes!

[Defeat Date Masamune!]

[Ishikawa Akimitsu defeated!]

[50 units defeated!]

Masamune: Don't panic now! Who survives, survives.

Chosokabe soldier: Get on the horse! We must resist the Date army's attacks!

Masamune: C'mon! Try and catch up to me, if you can!

Motochika: These ain't no average legs, ya know!

Motochika:Try and climb up the waterfall...the country awaits!

Kojuro: I, Kojuro!...will take that day's oath...and carve it on your right eye!

Kojuro: Lord Masamune! Go to the main camp and await my good news!

Motochika: Really like ice, huh...
You've felt this same kind of anger too?

Motochika: Men, what starts with "A"?

Chosokabe soldiers: Aniki, our charge ain't ever gonna stop!

Kojuro: No one ever gave up on the Date army, right?

Motochika: Men, what starts with "N"?

Kojuro: A position of advantage is indeed the creator of the poison called conceit...

Masamune: I'm used to handling wild horses, ya see...

Masamune: You're gonna try to kill me...? Your eyes are dead too, I see....

Masamune: If you want to turn to ash, come and face me!

Motochika: You looked for a fight, and lost...
But I wasn't careful enough, and lost...

Masamune: This isn't like you, Demon of the Western Seas! What's with those eyes?

Motochika: Behind me and at my side...are special seats reserved since a long time ago!

Masamune: This is the limit*...what are ya gonna do?

Motochika (Basara ending): And everything's burned to a crisp!

Motochika (victory event): How should I atone for this...? I can't...forgive myself yet!



Gameplay info: 2P mode is present for the "Sengoku Emaki mode" (story mode) Its details are practically the same as SB2H.

"Kengeki": sword clash thingie. Just tap the buttons to blow away and put in a dizzy status your opponent.

EDIT: Forgot the voices!

Hideaki: "I'm the pot's minister here...which pot do you administer, and where?" "Will you go back home if I bow to you? .....no?"

Tenkai: I will forgive...the sin of murder! I am Tenkai, he who knows the importance of life more than anyone else! *cue evil laugh*
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Thu Apr 8, 2010 5:03 am.
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Thanks for the translation as usual NDY!
The 2P mode description on the site didn't mention anything about it being available in Free Mode did it? It's safe to assume there'll be a Free Mode though, I hope.
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Few quick things before I go to bed:

1. I notice some people talk about not being able to see the new videos when the site is first updated; remember to refresh the website because if you've visited it recently, it will simply open up to how it was when you last visited, but when you refresh, it reloads.

2. Motochika is as awesome as always, cannot wait to play as him. Don't care for the horse stages being back however. (and seeing Kojuuro in action... :sad: )

3. Toshiie and Matsu's voices not until the 22nd, meaning we are definitely getting some news in next week's Famitsu (hopefully finally some NEW PLAYABLE CHARACTERS)

4. What is that other video that's set to show up on the 22nd? Possibly a 2 player mode video?


aaaaand now its sleepytime
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It's probably the game's opening, which Koba showed at an event last month.
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You know, we have an aweful lot of NPCs now. I don't remember there being that much NPCs in a Sengoku BASARA game. Might it not just mean that they don't have stories, but are playable in free mode... ?
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*vaguely remembers horse stage in Devil Kings*

Yes, because nothing says 'I'm badass' like running like a coward on a horse. That logic never ceases to amaze me in video games...

Oh well, at least Motochika looks nice. Good to see him in action- last time I touch a SB/DK game he was an NPC and was voiced by Cheetor with a funky accent.

@Master Sima Yi- NPC means NON Playable Character. Free Mode only is a horse of a different color I'm afraid. Personally I'd rather FMO than NPC... because then at least you'd get to play with them, as opposed to looking at them and wishing you could play them.
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