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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,164 Views)
murakumo
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But Musashi.......this is scary. He was taken out of SM3.....


Lol, even more reason for SB3 to include him! same with Kojiro and Garasha. :rolleyes:
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Awesome news is starting to make up for the terrible "new npc" update. If we see a brand new character next week along side Kotaro, I will be back to super hyped status.

Also, I really want a US release date now so I can decide whether to pay the ridiculously weak US dollar import price or just wait it out. If it is only a 2 month wait, I'll force myself to wait it out, but if its 5 months or something, then it looks like I'll just be buying the game twice
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It might not be true, but it sounds pretty believable:

http://www.amazon.com/Sengoku-Basara-Samurai-Heroes-Playstation-3/dp/B002X9KYFW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1270851656&sr=8-2

28th September 2010. We´ve known that for a long time and allways thought it was just a placeholder, but seeing as the JAP date is set to 29th July a two month wait sounds pretty believable.

Anyway, I´ll still buy it double. First play everything without understanding anything (or at least not everything :lol: ) and then I´ll play it again.

So I can enjoy BASARA 3 double the time, without it getting boring (wouldn´t get anyway, but hey, that´s what I tell my self for buying it double...though I´ll give the japanese version to a good friend of mine for 20 bucks anyway...I´d give it to him for free, but he wants to give me something for it -_- )
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Okay thanks people that gives me a pretty good idea...
Hmm amago.That's weird i thought they were gonna focus on sekigahara?
but i also heard that they might focus on battles b4 oda nobunaga... interesting, hows it gonna all fit together?
but with the rise of the amago i think it just produced a lot of possibilities. With the amago with have wars with Mori, and also the Ouchi. The Ouchi (YAY!) will be a new clan, and maybe(I really hope) that they will even add Otomo Sorin!!! and then add the tachibana of course to match up with the Shimazu.
Well this is great, got my hyped.

The Amago, Ouchi, Otomo were 3 early big clans that both SB and SW haven't mentioned yet... soo this is good! new ppl to learn about! I was thinking of Amago Haruhisa, but i also hope that the Deer helmet samurai guy will show up as well. Otomo Sorin, and Ouchi Yoshioki. THats what i hope. But then... if they're going to go into the early stages they might as well add saito dosan. Hojo Soun was a major character too, but i seriously doubt that they'll even think about adding him in since they already have an old ujimasa, and soun was ujimasa grand grand dad lol.


but aren't we all missing something important here?
isn't this all about Sekigahara? Why has there been like no talk or update abou some of the major ppl in sekigahra that SW has already added in their latest game?
Like...

Kato Kiyomasa
Fukushima Masanori
kanbei is already added so thats good.
Ginchiyo
Hideaki is a very good character and played a big role.
Now we really need some more tokugawa retainers!
Ii Naomasa is a great example i REALLY hope hes in this game!!!
Maybe even Sakai Tadatsugu, and not just focus on the big robot tadakatsu here...
what about the Hosokawa clan? Fujitaka, Tadaoki?
Todo Takatora?
Ishida: Uesugi Kagekatsu? Konishi Yukinaga? Shima Sakon? and even yukimuras important dad, Masayuki? Masayuki held back 3,8000 of Tokugawa's most trained troops with Yukimura and this helped Ishida a lot. Maybe they'll even add in Mori Terumoto, but i HIGHLY doubt it.

What im trying to get at is that they're just SO much characters Basara 3 can choose to add in! Im glad Yoshiaki will be in, and we need some new ppl that AREN"T NPCS! 4 months Koba...4 months. Thats a lot of time for like the 12 ppl i just mentioned up there.

Just some thoughts. :dance:
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it has been declared there will be no new character who have the same surname as an old character (example, they won't put Yoookeymoora's brother).

And uh, no. The game will focus on Sekigahara, but with Basara style, so guys who are actually already dead in 1600 could still appear.
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@Aznwarria:

To get things out of the way, we all got our hopes up for Uesugi Kagekatsu, but Koba set one iron rule: One character per clan. No new characters who have the same family name as an existing one, will be added.

So Terumoto, Masayuki Kagekatsu are allready out...sadly.

In Mitsunari´s gameplay video, Mitsunari defeats a generic and it says "Ii Naomasa has been defeated", that´s what NDY translated for us back then, so again, sadly, no red devil.

Kato Kiyomasa, Fukushima Masanori, Tachibana Ginchiyo, Sakai Tadatsugu, Hosokawa Tadaoki, Todo Takatora, Shima Sakon are all characters that have high chances.

Though you forgot the most important one, the second in-command of the western army: Ukita Hideie. ;)

Along with Todo Takatora as his "rival" those are the most important Sekigahara officers out there that still have to be added...but not as a NPC Koba, playable. PLAYABLE.
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Wonder if Sakakibara Yasumasa had a chance. I like that guy.
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As much as I like him as well, he doesn't have a chance in Hades. He's got as much chance as the real Hero of Sekigahara, Bamboo Saizo!
.....Who will never be in any of these games despite being awesome.
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Oh man did i forget Hedeie?
Oh god whoops i meant to add him.
Yeah i see then...only 1 per clan :(
WELL That blows a lot...i liked SW cuz it has lots of diff characters
but i guess SB only wants one per surname.
Ehh masayuki was such a major character...i kinda feel bad for him.
Terumoto i didn't really care that much about.
BUT Ii NAOMASA! AHH!
that just kills me....come on red devil! he was wounded at Sekigahara but played a big role!!! UGHH.
Since naomasa ain't gonna get in, then i think there are little hopes for Sakai... he was big in this war too but i guess they just wanna make Tadakatsu like their biggest ace.
Yasumasa....somehow he has been neglected in a lot of ways...like out of all 4 heavenly kings, i dont hear this guy as much. Its about all about the other 3 in lots of novels,games, etc.
I know that kiyomasa and masanori are a MUST so i think that they have a chance of 99.9% of getting in. Shima Sakon, Ginchiyo, and Ukita i think to me has a 90% of getting in. Todo, Hosokawa, Tadatsugu, Tachibana maybe has a chance of 75% but i do hope they get in.

Ok but which hosokawa do you guys think should be added?
FUjitaka or tadaoki? dad or son?
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Kani Saizo was beastin' at Sekigahara. But since his chance is rather skinny, I'll go with with his lord Masanori.

Hopefully Kiyomasa too, to knock some sense to Kanbei.
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@ DK: great post, but it seems you forgot about the new stage icon near Ueda castle, which suggests the introduction of a Satake clan member (probably Yoshishige)
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I didn´t want to get anyone´s hopes up, also he´s not on the most likely in list of mine.

Since it only suggests that they might be the Satake. Same thing with the icon in the Ukita territory. It´s just an indication, not an insurance.

Though the Ogre would be a nice addition...
(just trying to find an excuse :P )

But for now I really only predicted Hideie and Takatora since the first one is the most important commanding officer in Mitsunari´s army and Takatora was the one who faced him.

Hosokawa Tadaoki was an important friend of Ieyasu and a major part of the eastern forces and we lack eastern support.

Shima Sakon is a popular character, allready appeared in Onimusha: Dawn of Dreasm (thus CAPCOM knows about him, so he can´t be that unimportant to them) and he was the third wanted character in the poll...though even if I personally don´t think he should be in, just because he was the one who was shot and died of his wounds first...he has high chances :mellow:

And with so many females scratched out Gracia(no new characters of the same blood...he said surname, but meant that), ChaCha(the same), Ina(again).
Tachibana Ginchiyo has pretty good chances. Though the Dosetsu theory might be accurate too -_-

And Sasaki Kojiro is most likey in if Musashi is in. As I said doesn´t matter as a NPC or playable, but Musashi needs him to survive. :/
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:55 am.
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Er, I won't hold my breath on Hanzo. If anything, the indication that they are going to make every character that unique is why we might end up only having 1 ninja playable in Kotaro to represent all ninja characters.
True. Of course....this is assuming that Hanzo would be a "ninja". :hehe:

Again, I still think that Hanzo could work just as well, if they made him more of a samurai who KNOWS ninjutsu, instead of making him yet another ninja. Not only would that keep him unique, but it would do a bit more to showcase just how he actually was.

Since the Tokugawa are, seemingly, so technologically advanced, such that they can create warriors like Tadakatsu, who's to say they couldn't train/craft a warrior who could be more like a Sengoku-era Science Ninja like Joe the Condor, or something like that? :hehe:
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I think hanzo has a good chance of being added....
kotaro's rival and nemesis, just like in SW.

just wondering, what are the chances of Konishi Yukinaga being added in?
Not very high right?

And can anyone tell me what the poll results for which characters we want best? I really wanna know what others think. If you can, thx! :dance:
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True. Of course....this is assuming that Hanzo would be a "ninja". :hehe:

Again, I still think that Hanzo could work just as well, if they made him more of a samurai who KNOWS ninjutsu, instead of making him yet another ninja. Not only would that keep him unique, but it would do a bit more to showcase just how he actually was.

Since the Tokugawa are, seemingly, so technologically advanced, such that they can create warriors like Tadakatsu, who's to say they couldn't train/craft a warrior who could be more like a Sengoku-era Science Ninja like Joe the Condor, or something like that? :



well,seeing that none of ieyasu's troop aside from hondam uses state of the art weapons or mecha implants(and way too generic,unlike aniki,or masamune's troops),and even both versions of ieyasu himself only used a normal weapon(way old fashioned compared to KOEI's cannon spear)

its safe to say that somehow hondam was not tokugawa's doing,perhaps he found hondam encased inside a stone statue while dancing naked around it in a rite of adulthood?

so yeah,i think we should stop addressing the tokugawas as the tech master for now......

but on other thought,they also got those zombie giant soldiers,perhaps the tokugawas have a mad scientists of sorts?
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Perhaps Hanzo IS that mad scientist? :lol:
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http://www.kotaku.jp/2010/04/basara3_729.html


Fuuma "Wind Demon" Kotaro confirmed as PLAYABLE, peoples!!
Does this mean Ujimasa is not playable? I mean the One Playable per clan thing right?
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Is there anyone here want him playable ?
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Is there anyone here want him playable ?
I do.

Great addition. It was immensely fun to play as him on Heroes. With more moves (and new ones) it will be even better.
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Ujimasa was pretty fun to play
but he was a bit slow since hes old
he was very slow to pick back up his giant weapon, and he
pants and stretches lik every 2 seconds lol
But i do like him...i mean who wouldn't want more playable characters?
Hideaki, Kojuuro, Toshiie, Matsu, Kenshin....
*sigh* The characters i really wanted to play as...
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With an Ice weapon and his special item Hojo was pretty damn fun to play with and rack up combos.
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Does anyone still recall how much time it went between the confirmation of every character and the release date for the prequels?
I don't know how it went for the Basara games, but if Capcom's latest titles (RE5GE and SSFIV) are of any reference, we might know the full roster in about month and a half before the release date (about mid-June, I think).

Another thing - while it's a bit improbable, I don't think we took this under consideration yet: what if Koba is to pull a "reverse Devil Kings" on us? I mean, promote some NPCs to PCs for the overseas release.
I know the idea of western gamers having more content and not the other way around sounds completely preposterous, but who knows?


And Ujimasa is awesome. :ph43r:
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I don't really like Ujimasa that much, and I think there are more important characters that need to be included first. But I though that the "one character per clan" thing was just based on surnames? That completely sucks! :angry:
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@Balder

It wouldn't be the first time. Tales of the Abyss comes to mind.
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I really don't like Ujimasa at all. I didn't like him in SW, and I don't like him SB2H. I hate his personality. I the way he uses his weapon. I hate his design. But that just makes me more happy to kill him. So, I'm glad if he's in the game. I really don't want him in as a PC. I'd rather take him as an NPC.

Also, I really don't get the "who doesn't more playable characters?" logic. I mean, surely you can't like playing as every single character, right? I mean, I won't mind it if he is in as a playable character, but I'll probably never play as him. I don't really think he is the popular in the poll, so don't take out someone like Hisahide to put in Ujimasa. If we get an awesome roster anyway, he doesn't seem like he would stand out at all. Basically, what I'm saying is, he is just a side character that used to be an NPC, and he shouldn't take the place of any really awesome character.

I don't like him, so my opinion will be very different than other people on that topic.

You know, it's almost like, if there's more content in one of the versions, I want it to be the Japanese one. I know it sounds weird, but it doesn't seem right. It probably isn't gonna happen anyway.

The truth is, there shouldn't be any more content in one version of the game than the other, simple as that.

I know this was a very serious post for me so, :dance: :dance:
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:01 pm.
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