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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Manta Punk | Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:17 pm Post #4601 |
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Ex-Admiral
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Uh oh, it seems these new smilies ( , ) were more than mere coincidence. I'm predicting a lot of them used through out the next 4 or 5 pages of rage and sarcasm.Good job I took your advice BK, I'm not all that too angry or surprised. Still, how about giving us a new character who isn't a NPC for change Koba? The only reason I wasn't too upset about the Oda being cut, is because I was looking foward to playing as the new characters, not watching them. Boy, am I relieved Yoshitsugu made the cut as a PC. Looking at how the games turning out, he may have survived the dreaded "N" by the skin of his teeth. Sorry to all the Yoshiaki fans though, hopefully you'll manage to get through it. I guess you could look at it this way, with Yoshiaki without any story, Masamune won't get much more screen time... thats always a bonus, right? Expectation levels reset to 0. |
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| Enygma | Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:19 pm Post #4602 |
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Koba... Please don't do this to us. All we can hope for is that the info is wrong and that Yoshiaki is playable (Don't really care for Ujimasa)
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| Balder | Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:27 pm Post #4603 |
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[expletive boat sounds]
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Unfortunately, some of us aren't really following on any other titles. Well, not me, at least. But you are absolutely right. There really is no point in getting upset over these things. It's just that it really sucks getting aggravated over things meant to be recreational. Some of us got so much personal or professional stuff to be worried about and during our little break from the norm, we get pretty much greeted with a kick to the crotch. I'm not going to rage over this anymore (got considerably more serious things to worry about right now) but it's a bit disheartening. But if your theory about the last 4 is right, I don't know about many of you, but I think it's an insult. I already think bringing back Ujimasa is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, the ol' geezer rocks, but why does he get another comeback and "fresher" characters like H&H get the shaft? And I'll say it again - if what happened with RE5GE and SSFIV is to be of any reference, we'll probably know the full roster by the end of June. Alas, it seems Koen's prediction came to be (a bit too fast I should add). I'm starting to think these smilies were made specifically for us. I mean, talk about timing!
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:44 pm Post #4604 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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Boy am I glad I didn't get my hopes up last night, because this is pretty much what is to be expected. Seriously, this one playable character per clan/district ordeal is making the game a bore rather than the button mashing free for all it should be. I've never seen so many silly rules in a game made solely to have fun (with some nice story elements added in). |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:19 pm Post #4605 |
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![]() How long do we have to wait for the HEROES expansion? Is there any japanese videogame site out there, that listens to it´s users and thus could make an interview with that jerk, so we´ll know when we can buy the next BASARA game? Screw the spin-offs, we want to know the release date for a real BASARA game. Oh man...I have to wait another year till we get to play a BASARA game?
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| Ouelis | Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:44 pm Post #4606 |
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Nicely done DK, nicely done. Although, I don't really agree that this move doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense to me. Just another reason to shell out more money for the expansion later on. Well, we've covered this before but I'm still going to get SB3 first day, regardless of what comes our way the next couple of months. It does annoy me, but I don't feel like wasting any energy on it. Some decisions so far have really irked me, but in the end I'm looking forward to playing what I already know is there, so I'm good. Also, this isn't coming completly out of right field so it doesn't bother me so much now that it's sunk in. Only thing really annoying me is throwing so many NPC's at us in such short intervales. Hopefully that's the last NPC's we see for a while, though I'm not counting on it. It's kinda strange how worked up we all get about all this. And the enormous sways in tone and temper in here. Guess that's what it's like being a fan. Well in any case, I hope we get the scans soon. Even though he's an NPC now, Mogami will be playable eventually, so I'm interested in seeing what he looks like. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:50 pm Post #4607 |
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Screw BASARA 3. Really. I won´t give that ******* money, for an unfinished version. Hope a lot do the same, we should show companies that the Dynasty Warriors 6/Wodern Warfare 2 quick cash productions aren´t the right way. I´ll buy the expansion. Untill then, it´s been nice I´ll look into the board after around 8 months, maybe they´ve announced it till then. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:52 pm.
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| murakumo | Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:59 pm Post #4608 |
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Don't be like that DK, don't let Kobapii making a few stupid mistakes (that can easily be righted in an expansion) ruin the whole game for you. Try to look a little on the positive side of things. Plus it won't look good if Hisahide is made playable and you come running back after blowing off the whole franchise. If what has been said about Yoshiaki being NPC (and Ujimasa being included at all) is true, then I'm pissed. But at least I can hope Yoshiaki has a kickass design and Ujimasa gets killed in epic fashion. |
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| Moogle | Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:01 pm Post #4609 |
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hmm I might still buy it.. If Gracia is playable, I might just be tempted xP |
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| Ouelis | Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:07 pm Post #4610 |
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Look DK, I'm not going to sugarcoat it, it's obvious that Koba has made some serious errors so far, but I'd wish that you didn't let it get to you. Personally, I think it's still too early to decide to boycott or not since I think we still have a good chunk of time ahead of us to make the decision. It might turn out to be an absolute atrocity, but I think making that call at this juncture is premature. That being said, I can fully understand the sentiment. So, if you decide to take off, I get it. Sad to see you go though. Edited by Ouelis, Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:08 pm.
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| Enygma | Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:44 pm Post #4611 |
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Has it been confirmed yet or is it still just speculation? |
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| Gakupo | Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:08 pm Post #4612 |
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I'll wait until I see some hard evidence before reacting but being that Kobayashi doesn't seem to give too much of a rats *** about character popularity polls, I'm wondering if he did any additional research as to who was really important during the Sekigahara conflict. From what I've read about potential people he could've used from other people here, it sounds like he had more than enough to choose from. |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:12 pm Post #4613 |
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im sorry i got so angry at necrosis's speculation but i had my expectations really high for this one but my hopes were smashed and im hoping that the mogami as a NPC wasn't true because i dont know to much about him besides he is masamune's uncle and he participated in sekigahara so i want to see his design and weapon badly and for hojo i dont really care for but dont get me wrng he is pretty awsome so if there still isnt any info for today im hoping it comes tomorrow |
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| BlackKite | Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:25 pm Post #4614 |
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Oh.... great. We just got our first real 'victim' here.Really, this should be a lesson for not only the fans here, but also everyone who reads this post. Do not get too excited with something, because when you're getting disappointed with it the disappointment rate will get more severe. And we just got an example of that now. Especially when things start going downhill like this. Better back off before the situation gets even worse. Trust me, it will also help your health so you won't get too much stress, especially just from things like these game information batches. Anyway, for me, I'll still preorder SB3 through PA as usual, however I'm no longer planning to pay extra for the express shipping. I'll just opt with normal airmail and wait patiently for about 2 weeks after shipping until the copy arrives as usual. And looks like the mail magazine source is no hoax. I just found a couple of Japanese Twitter users who got the mailmaga and confirmed it. But for those who want concrete visual proof, I'm positive there should be something in Famitsu leak which should come in about 8 hours from now, since after all it is promised that there would be new information this week. Oh, and somehow even I am starting to get irked for real on how Koba still keeps an excited tone in his blog. Didn't he read 2ch too? The atmosphere in the topic there is pretty much the same with here except with less rage since the people there also have reduced their expectation levels already. |
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| Enygma | Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:35 pm Post #4615 |
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Well I've never given up the thought of buying the game when it is released, but it just doesn't make sense to design new characters and then not allow the players to play as them. 8 hours huh... well that would be 4 in the morning for me so i wont find out until tomorrow
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:55 pm Post #4616 |
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I might get it, but only the NA release at this point. I really don't feel like paying extra for shipping and handling for an import, and really, I'd rather support my local GameStop than give a single dime to Kobayashi at this point. Assuming Capcom hasn't dropped the overseas release, I'll just wait. Who knows, maybe by then they'll announce an expansion, some DLC making NPCs PCs, or they'll un-NPCify peeps (like someone mentioned, a reverse DK release). Also, while I know the game is meant for extreme fun and zaniness, I still like to know WTF the people are saying, even if it's not important. Call me weird, but understanding what I'm playing helps. So, not day one according to you guys, but at least I'm still willing to give it a try, despite knowing how much I'm missing out. Edit: Also, I think DK has the right to do whatever he/she wants. I don't blame him or her at all for their disappointment, and in the end its their money. So, let the guy/gal have his moment and leave him be. I'm sure Koba isn't shedding tears for the loss of potential customers anytime soon. And just cuz I want to use the new smilies.
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| necrosis | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:02 pm Post #4617 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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Uhm yeah aaanyways. While I will sya having NPCs CAN serve a point, they are going about this the wrong way. Points NPCs can serve: Less interesting but still important characters you need but don't think many people would like to play as , the Elite Mooks like Imagawa, Honganji, and Ujimasa. because their design is not that great. Characters that you didn't have time to develop a moveset for, either (Basara 1 Motochika springs to mind). And thus both of these points fly in the face of THIS game. Why bother turning established, already playable characters, that people DO enjoy and already had complete movesets, to "look but don't touch"?. Its pointless dickery. Why design COOL characters and make them unplyable? This should be left to the "elite mooks. You can't tell me they haven't had time to create full movesets and tweak all these NPCs to make them playable. There is zero reason for this to happen, other than an already planned moneymaking scheme via dlc or expansion or super turbo version. Looks Like I'm Right Again. ![]() "Why don't you guys try looking forward to many other games to relieve the stress for a bit?" Oh, I am, trust me, I haven't been SERIOUSLY interested ever since they made Kenshin a NPC. I'm just sputtering around waiting for Hokuto Musou USA date and an Etrian Odyssey 3 USA date. Two games that are out and we already know are good. I'm also planning on picking up 3D.DotHeroes next month. |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:08 pm Post #4618 |
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are you referring to me ohhh and the scans come in 8 hours ill probably sleep that away and so that mean mogami is a NPC awwww man koba a couple of new NPCs is alright but not the best characters well hopefully in the expansion he will become playable well ill be back when the scans arrive
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:08 pm Post #4619 |
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That's the only thing that bugs me about Koba's choice for NPCs. If they weren't PCs to begin with, it really wouldn't bug me, but... dammit, I wanted to play a lot of those characters, and now he's pretty much making it clear that I'm going to have to wait for a possible expansion or pay extra for something that could have been in the game had he not made that stupid 'one playable character per clan' rule. Because of Keiji, there are 4 NPCs... and that's just tragic, since all of them were interesting or cool on their own (well, from what I've seen in gameplay videos). But, again, no amount of complaining will change anything, except to make me feel better by blowing off steam. So, whatever... it's Koba's own name and 'masterpiece' he's dragging in the mud right now, so if he wants to be self destructive, then by all means have at it. I'm just annoyed that I'm finally going to get a non-DK version of this game legally and I feel as if it's almost not worth the wait. x_X |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:33 pm Post #4620 |
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Did you really think I could leave my fellow BASARA fans? Who´d sub the gameplay videos then? But really, I´m going to bypass BASARA 3 and wait for the expansion. I did that with Street Fight IV, since I KNEW they would do something like that. Now I get the game for a budget price with 10 extra characters, new and better stories, returning bonus stages and other stuff. And BK, that´s my way of backing off, just like to advised us and we should´ve listened. Since whatever happens now, it doesn´t concern me, since I´ll get to play all the NPCs in the expansion for a budget price...shouldn´t say that...it´s Koba we´re talking about. So I´ll at least get to play as Sasuke and Kojuuro cause those two have to be playable in the expansion. Countdown: Around 8 Months to go EDIT: Thanks for defending my decision, ChibiGingi. "He" says thank you
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:33 pm Post #4621 |
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cheer up guys. It just means taht the heroes installment will be that much better. |
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| necrosis | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:35 pm Post #4622 |
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If the west even gets the expansion that is.....
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| eklineage | Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:39 pm Post #4623 |
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the voicework will be mostly done. This is capcom we are talking about. I won't worry too much about it. |
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:02 pm Post #4624 |
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Well, not to be pessimistic, but we also didn't get any of the SB games besides the first muck up of the first one, so I wouldn't be too sure about it. Capcom certainly isn't a godly company... I mean, they disbanded Clover, despite how insanely godly Okami was... and said it was okay to turn Sengoku Basara into DEVIL KINGS. I mean... they're capable of bad decisions. |
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| Enygma | Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:12 pm Post #4625 |
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Well since they are naming it Sengoku BASARA: Samurai heroes, it gives me the thought that they don't want any connection to Devil Kings and therefor won't mess up with the NA/EU version.... Hopefully
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We just got our first real 'victim' here.
well hopefully in the expansion he will become playable

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