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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:15 pm Post #4626 |
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Alright, I'm not gonna get too mad about this, because this is what I expected. I'm waiting for some more evidence that Yoshiaki is an NPC. I'm not going to rant about it. And, I'm not going to rant about it even IF it's true. Simply because this is what I expected. Expectations back down to zero. Therefore, if the leak is true, I'm not gonna rant about it, or I probably won't even get mad. I still think that we have a lot of time to get new stuff, I know we've been saying this for a while, but it's true. DK, don't let this get to your head. If you leave the boards, Koba announces that Hisahide is playable, and you boycott the game, then you know what will happen. Your going to come back and say "Well, is SB3H announced yet? Will Hisahide be in it" Then we'll all be like" Um, DK, Hisahide is playable in SB3......." Now, do you want that to happen DK? Besides, we don't even know if it's true. I really don't care about Ujimasa, but it would be nice...... Expectations set to 1, for Mogami. MP, I know Masamune is a poster boy, but that hurt me a little, jk. He's in a lot anyway. I really wanna see Mogami's design before I get mad too, I mean what if he's a character you wouldn't wanna play as anyway? That would be HORRIBLE though. I've had enough joke characters. I SWEAR IF ITSUKI AND ZABII MAKE THE CUT AND AREN'T NPC'S I WILL GET A PLANE TICKET TO JAPAN AND SLAP KOBA WITH A FRYING PAN. *Note: that was a joke, don't arrest me* |
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| Ouelis | Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:18 pm Post #4627 |
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Pun intended? In any case, that's enough gloom and doom for one day for me. You know, today has been pretty bad for me(not only because of the Mogami NPC thing but I totally blew a exam) but I'm still pretty optimistic. To a fault perhaps, but whatever. I'm still pretty exited. So I'm going to go ahead and keep my spirits up. It might seem an empty argument at the moment, but I feel that there's still time for some good things to happen. This was rough, but we'll bounce back. We've been down this road before after all, right? |
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| The Outsider | Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:22 pm Post #4628 |
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Sweet Jesus the feel on this topic is dull . Nobody has said a word good, at least I've tried to be a lil optimistic a couple pages back. It aint over 'til it's over guys. I'm in the EU and it hasn't even been announced for me yet, but I'm remaining optimistic .I won't be importing it, I've never understood that. Inreference to Chibi's post before. If I was going to be getting this game in my country eventually, why would I put myself through the hassle of buying all the equipment for capabilities for it to play, along with getting the game imported only for it to have Japanese language. People should just wait. |
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| Watchtower | Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:13 pm Post #4629 |
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BDS does have a point. This topic's been pretty down in the dumps lately. Really, the only reason I've been able to perservere is simply due to the fact that I'm not letting the disappointments bother me. No reason for me to hate. Sure, I've ranted about the numerous NPCs, but I'm less angry and more astonished at what I see; terrible business decisions. I've been caring less about getting this game and more on hoping that the game does well overseas. Which, at this point, I'm leaning towards it NOT. But oh well. Let's see what this next update brings. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:23 pm Post #4630 |
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Well, then Iīll put in some good words. Kobayashi said weīll see a ?-ty characters roster. We now have (with the 3 leaked characters) 15 playable and 10 NPCs leading us to a 25 HEROES roster. Either Kobayashi inteds to enterain us with 5 characters around the next 4 months or there really is a 40 HEROES roster. If itīs the 5 characters situtation...YAY I suppose, since we can pretty much guess who the next characters will be Hisahide, Mushashi, Zabii, Itsuki, Kennyo anyone? (Shingen is ill and cannot fight. Heīs cutscene material for Yukimuraīs ending) Wait...we are now by 25 characters with only 5 veterans left (6 if you really want to include Shingen) Theyīd have to add 9-10 new characters to go up to the ?-ty roster if they really want to have a 40 characters roster... Well, 30 characters now became much much more reliable. Great. Canīt wait to play as 30 characters +- some characters in the expansion. And canīt wait to play as the cut characters in Sengoku BASARA 4 in around 2 years. ...I tried to be optimistic here...but hey, if itīs more than 30 characters, we can expect a lot of new characters, NPCs or not(if we can trust Kobaīs words...well, at that moment...) If not, I doubt someone doesnīt really know his own countries history very well, given that one of the key battles that changed the history of that land, misses itīs biggest key figures (besides the most obvious characters, being Mitsunari, Ieysu and Hideaki)
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| Manta Punk | Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:37 pm Post #4631 |
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Glad your staying DK. Reading through that post... I thought we lost a decent member and friend. Plus with recent bad news, it'd hurt all the more if one of "us" left due to Koba's idiotic ass pulls. But I guess that co-op will have to wait until Heroes now... xXBIBXx, sorry for the joke. I know your a fan of the Yukimura and Masamune rivalry, but it gets a little tiring seeing them duel in every BASARA media without effecting the story. I sometimes wish one would get it over with and kill the other, just so we can see whats happening with the other characters. Anyway, I'm just going to assume we'll get a roster of half PCs, and half NPCs. Anything other than that would be fantastic, but I reckon thats how much Koba thinks he can get away with without hurting any of the fans (too bad that ship sailed a long time ago), and thats where I'll set my expectations. No where to go but up, if he decides to proove me wrong. I don't see what his reasonings are though. True, if all NPCs from this game get PC treatment in Heroes, its is likely to sell really well. But introducing this vast amount of NPCs... won't that take away potential sales from this game? Well, luckily BASARA 3 isn't the only game I'm looking foward to this Summer. EV training my Pokemon in Heart Gold is sure to take a decent amount of time, and with Dragon Quest IX around the corner sometime soon, I'll admit I've got a bit to look foward to. No worries on this games front though. I've stated my reasons many times why this is a day 1 purchase, and it'll likely stay that way. Its just a shame whats happened and what it could've truly been. All the wasted potential... its easy to see why others are having a difficult time deciding wether to purchase or not. And NPC or not, I'm excited to see how they've portrayed Yoshiaki. Bad ass Engrish speaking "old man" like some of us predicted, or something completely different... |
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| Ouelis | Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:57 pm Post #4632 |
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I second that notion. I don't want to sound like a maniac, but I feel this board has such a nice synergy, and DK is certainly a part of that. So, I hope you'll all stick around so we can keep this train going. I feel a bit strange saying that, but it's the truth, so there.
I'm actually spending quite some time with HG myself at the moment. And even though summer is usually the time when very few titles come out together with SB3 I'm looking forward to the third installment of one of my favorite DS franchises Inazuma Eleven. And aside from those, I have Yakuza 3, FFXIII(although I don't think I'll finish it) and SMT: Strange Journey on my shelf that I need to play through as soon as possible. But still SB3 is easily my most anticipated title in quite a while even after all the heartache. Okay, maybe it shares the top slot with Inazuma Eleven 3 but even so. |
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| SRS | Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:57 pm Post #4633 |
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Ehhh, I guess I'm not too distressed on Mogami being an NPC even though it's disappointing. I mainly want him in to up the plot for Masamune and maybe Itsuki if she's still around. Now I just want to see him. Ukita Hideie and Amago Haruhisa/Yamanaka Shikanosuke though, boy those better not be NPCs. Actually, was there a spot on the map in Dewa? I know there's one in Bizen(Ukita), one in Shimotsuke(possibly Satake or Yuuki), and one in Shikoku(Miyoshi/Matsunaga?) but I don't recall seeing one up north besides Oshu. |
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| robotzombie | Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:58 pm Post #4634 |
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This is severely disappointing news if true, but then again, I think I predicted it a while back... If we get this update and Yoshiaki is an NPC, then I really am not expecting anything more of this game than what was already announced. I'm really not expecting any more new playable characters, and it's sad to say, but it seems they are really just loading up the hype machine for an inevitable expansion, at the expense of the main game itself. Here is the big problem I'm worried about: All of us rabid fans outside of Japan might become so disillusioned that we end up not getting enough sales going for Capcom to warrant bringing out the expansion to anywhere other than Japan. Thus we're kind of forced to buy the domestic release of this game if we want to eventually play as all these cool NPCs. And the saddest part of all of this is that I will end up importing the game, then buying the US release, and then probably doing the same for the expansion, because I am an idiot... |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:05 pm Post #4635 |
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I liked the "mafia/gangster boss" style, one of those so called "insiders" leaked. The old fox of Dewa, sounded just too awesome. And I guess youīre right. I mean, with a 40 characters roster, it wouldīve been enough to add 10 NPCs and 30 playables. With characters like Kenshin, Kojuuro and Sasuke itīs assured that the expansion will be bought, especially if you add one or two completely new characters like Ii Naomasa and Naoe Kanetsugu. But I wonīt complain if itīs half-half. The expansion awaits. And I bet itīll come soon. After the recent Street Fighter, Resident Evil incidents a lot of CAPCOM fans said, theyīll just wait for an expansion of the CAPCOM game they want. If it comes theyīll get the game cheaper with more content, if not, theyīll games for a bargain price since itīs either old or sold a lot of copies and thus gets cheaper. I guess BASARA 3 will still sell itīs fair amount of copies, but I wouldnīt expect a Hokuto No Musou surpise, since a lot will either never buy the game, wait for the expansion or buy it later. And the first weeks decide when and if an expansion will be made. If it sells under the expectations of CAPCOM theyīll hopefully kick out Koba and let Tsuchi handle future Sengoku BASARA games, since his designs are what save the game from being a total failure and bring out an expansion as soon as possible to make up with the fans, before they lose all the merchandise profits or it sells so good that they bring out the expansion as fast and rushed as they can, while everyone is still hyped for the game so they can even make more money. Either way, fine by me. I donīt expect the game to sell so bad, that they wonīt bring out an expansion. EDIT: P.S.: Iīll mark the day in my calendar, when Koba announces Hisahide is a not playable. Really. I wonīt say that this is a likely scenario, but if it happens, Iīll just start to laugh. At this point...Iīll just laugh. And yeah, Battlefield 2, Yakuza 3 the upcoming 3D Dot game Heroes, Red Dead Redemption with the online free roaming multiplayer, the europe release of Samurai Warriors 3 + EU Fist of the Northstar Warriors (or whatever itīll be called) plus the near in the future Arkham Asylum 2 and Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (which finally features Akatsuki members and theyīve seen Sasuke in Akatsuki uniform so they may feature all the members) I can wait Koba. Till I see your butt being kicked out of the CAPCOM building and Tsuchi at the head of your former staff BTW, I wonder what Akiro says, when he checks back to see the news on Kotaro...I bet heīll just laugh and say I knew it. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:43 pm.
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| RoyalRocket | Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:21 pm Post #4636 |
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So is there Sengoku Basara 3 info in this week's famitsu? |
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| murakumo | Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:25 pm Post #4637 |
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Apparently so, however we don't have leaks yet. |
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| Aznwarria | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:09 am Post #4638 |
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god this morning I twisted mah neck I couldn't even go to shool it was so painful... Ugh I can't move plus I don't have Internet connection so I'm posting this from my iPod. First, lol sengoku basara guy why'd u put my name in ur post? 2nd.... WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! YOSHIAKI NPC?!?!?!! Nooooooooooooooooo!!!! Omg!!!! Ughhhhh!! Dam it I wanted mogami! I thought he would be a pc but..... Man! I haven't seem what he looks like yet but whenever there's a new character I would always want to play ad him/her or at least play around with him! I was already upset about hideaki, but mogami?!?!? Greeaatttt what's next? Y don't u just completely cut out the idea of the ginchiyos even being in, and ukita and todo npcs along with kennyo and cut out zabii and itsuki?! Geez mogami, dam it! I wouldve traded him for kotaro, no offence kotaro fans I like him too but I wouldve prefered yohiaki. I'm close to not even buying this game... I'm sry. I wouldn't rlly want to spend 60$ on something that disappoints so much. I might as well just wait for heroes or even sb4... Geez |
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| murakumo | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:17 am Post #4639 |
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Well, there's still a lot of info left to be revealed. I think it's too early to be changing our minds about buying the game. |
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| eklineage | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:24 am Post #4640 |
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Like i said. An expansion is guaranteed. The moment they annoulnced the big 4..err ok more than that. Characters like Kenshin, Matsu and sasuke are all fan favourites. Plus let's not forget the lovely kasuga which is the main sex symbol of the game. It's pretty obvious what they are trying to do. I suggest we don't go posting negative crap about this game... cuz stuff like this will spread like wildfire let me tell u. Word of mouth can bring amazing sales to a game like Valkyria Chronicles... but the opposite can also happen. I'm not too bummed about Kenshin but I wanted Sasuke in. Besides... who knows what they will do for the western release. Capcom is Japan's version of EA. With that said, their specialty is pissing ppl off lol. Edited by eklineage, Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:26 am.
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| Aznwarria | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:32 am Post #4641 |
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U know what? I wasn't even that excited about sb3 once they announced kojuro npc. Screw kobas iron rule, every clan has it's own important characters and important retainers! I never intended to preorder the game and or like buy it once it comes out. I'm gonna wait either for heroes to release or when they knock off that price. Right now, if they don't add and make new characters playable, I'm not gonna buy this at all. Just show koba that we won't buy it if he keeps disappointing us!!! |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:38 am Post #4642 |
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Yeah, KOBA. I can wait. I've got Yakuza 3, COD4, and my xbox broke, but I traded it in, YEAH THATS RIGHT KOBA I TRADED IT IN!! And you know what I got, FFXII special edition, what now? Gonna make Masamune an NPC, huh? (If you do that, um HEELLOOO TSUCHIBAYASHI!" Sorry, guys I needed to get that out, I needed some funny, it's just me. DK, if you've got that day down, then I'll mark my calendar for the day he announces Musashi! I could see it now: BK will be like " Well, guys there's some new info this week! Musashi is redone, looks like a badass, and has a really cool moveset! Supposedly, he will have a really deep story. I found that in a side note. I didn't read the rest of the page though, I just couldn't, after all we've been through......" I am the only one who dares to read the page, *Note, if you aren't a fan of my jokes, DO NOT read on, this will be my last one, I promise* Simply because it was just stolen from Koba's toilet......My hands tremble as I read the rest of the page...."Musashi will have a much, much deeper story this time. I read all of the page. I know knew that he had the fire element, the fastest attacks a BASARA character has ever had, and has a duel with HISAHIDE, being his equal. I looked at the bottom of the page, my relief just faded away. This page had one more side note. I didn't know how long I spent looking at this, because the page was now dry, and it smelled BAD. I almost barfed because of how bad it smelled, but stopped myself because I would cover up the sidenote, I read on " We know what you're thinking, you probably thought he was an NPC! Ha! You were-" I jumped for joy, literally for joy, and then- "right." a part of me died. I suddenly started trembling and fell to the ground. I never woke up. They found me dead. Now I lay in the heaven known as "Sengoku BASARA 3: HEROES" We were here because we here betrayed by the ruler of the hell, known as "Sengoku BASARA 3" where so many dreams are lost, Kobayashi. The ruler of hell. I was surprised that I wasn't sent to purgatory, Spectator BASARA 3, where you never know if the watching is going to stop, ruled by Koba's toilet. We wait, for December 31st maybe. NOTE: THIS IS MY FINAL COMEDIC POST. I WILL NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THIS ANY MORE. I AM GOING TO BE SERIOUS FROM NOW ON. I PROMISE YOU, AKIRO, QUELIS. To all the people wondering why I put your names in my post, was because at that time I though everyone hated it, and so I tried to apologize to everyone I could think of. Yes, I know, I was emo. And I just put Akiro and Quelis in because they specifically said they didn't like it, and I disobeyed them. End. Anyway, I'm still waiting for the "real" leak. I really want to see how they depict him, and if he's a PC. I need to know, but I can't, not until the leak comes. We wait. Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:44 am.
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:44 am Post #4643 |
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Well, actually itīs not too early. Itīs all a question of patience. I mean, afterall weīve waited 3 years for this game and now allmost half of the the characters roster are NPCs allready. If you can wait for the announcement of DLC or more likely an expansion of the original game, youīll get the game, with more content for less money. Of course you can also buy the game and enjoy the expansion later, but pay for both the game and the expansion of course. Itīs like Street Fighter IV. Those who bought it, could play it sooner, but at the cost that they have to pay again for the "real Street Fighter IV" later on. If you can wait, youīll get more game for less money. Even if the original story modes arenīt included, untill the release of the expansion, youīll find BASARA 3 for around half of itīs original price. And the expansion is only 30 bucks, like all the CAPCOM expansions. So you get all with a a big "prize cut tag" on it. And even if you say, itīs just money, why wait? Some of us, canīt spend a lot of money on games. Why pay a full prize for a game, that only has half the content, just so people will buy the expansion? Red Dead Redemption is a game, that not only has a big open world with a Single Player story, side missions and free roaming experiences and a multiplayer were you can just ride along, play mini-games and contests or participate in known multiplayer modes like Death Matches. Thereīll be DLC for sure, but youīll get more than you paid for and there might be even more. In Dynasty Warriors 6 case (sorry to beat a dead horse) you get a half-a**ed version were characters are cut (ahem ), clone characters (worse than non-playable characters, right ) a more than questionable fighting system and graphical issues on a next gen console. It wasnīt worth itīs full prize tag.BASARA 3 is a mix of it. Itīs not as big as Red Dead Redemption, since Rockstar games is NOT only out there to make money, but they really wanted to bring the old western feeling to life in a GTA like game and you can feel it. But itīs not as bad as DW6, since BASARA 3 at least features a worked out story mode, promises online capabilities (only for PS3 users though, so Wii owners are screwed over ) and the visual as well as the sound department did a great job so far.But with all the characters fans came to love, being cut or untouchable (even those that the anime "advertises") and even new characters getting the unplayable stamp even though it IS A GAME, and games are called games, cause you play them. PLAY THEM, not WATCH THEM. Itīs not a movie. So those who skip the game completely have their justified reason since money doesnīt grow on trees. Those who wait patiently for an expansion to get the full game, thatīs worth the money you pay, have all the right to do so. And those who donīt mind that thereīs again "locked content" on a game you pay a full prize for, can do so too. BASARA 3 is a mixed bag. If thatīs what Koba wanted, he was successfull. So letīs STOP the hate now and just roll on. I understand everyone for doing what they do, since I was in every position for now (first day buy, no buy, waiting) but letīs not forget that weīre all still looking for BASARA. Some for BASARA 3, some for the expansion and some even for the next game. So letīs not repeat the same stuff again and again. Kobayashi is a ****ing jerk (sorry for the swearing, but itīs the truth), he proved that when he did Devil May Cry 4 and pissed of itīs fans and now he does it again with SB3. CAPCOM wonīt realize that and nothing will change, so letīs just accept and look forward. Either to the day Hisahide is announced playable or the day I roll on the ground and laugh while saying "Matsuanga" and "unplayable" in one sentence. The future is unpredictable, but Koba is even more.
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| robotzombie | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:49 am Post #4644 |
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I think the best option that I can hope for would be that I import the game as soon as it comes out, and then they announce that the US version of the game is going to be the main game + the Heroes expansion as an all in one. That would be incredible and make both purchases worthwhile, but very unlikely... Edit: What i would give for this Yoshiaki NPC info to be a 2ch trolling joke or something... Edited by robotzombie, Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:04 am.
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| eklineage | Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:55 am Post #4645 |
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I really hope they do a complete overhaul for musashi. Was such a wasted potential character in the past game. I want him to hold some crazy looking dual swords with some decent armor. The current musashi is missing the epicness and just feels like a joke to me. Too bad i don't have friends working at Capcom. I have a few working at EA though but the thing is I am not a particular fan of EA games. So I couldnt care less what they do. Edited by eklineage, Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:58 am.
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| Aznwarria | Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:04 am Post #4646 |
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I think this update really killed us all. B4 ppl were like ughh kobas stupid but i'm still getting this but now after this update of yoshiaki and ujimada being npcs, ppl r finally giving up on this game and not buying it and waiting for heroes. I hope that they do another double pack for the wii again cuz then that'd be cheaper and u get both games. |
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| Watchtower | Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:13 am Post #4647 |
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Why is everyone going into rage mode over Yoshiaki?? Nothing's been said yet!
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:25 am Post #4648 |
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News are about to come. We'll know in an hour or so, I think. But take this prediction with a grain of salt.
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| Aznwarria | Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:27 am Post #4649 |
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I know it's not confirmed yet but I know that it will happen... It's just my opinion but I bet it will happen |
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| BlackKite | Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:50 am Post #4650 |
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Famitsu Excerpts have come, confirming what was written in the mailmaga.
For those who want visual proof, please wait a bit more. |
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. Nobody has said a word good, at least I've tried to be a lil optimistic a couple pages back. It aint over 'til it's over guys. I'm in the EU and it hasn't even been announced for me yet, but I'm remaining optimistic
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