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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,153 Views)
Enygma
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Welcome Jim :wave:
I'm sure you'll love Basara when you play it.
We can only hope that this game features more characters then the second, and
that most of them are playable.
But the only one who really knows is Koba and there is know way we can know what he is thinking (sometimes i wonder if he even does that, oh well).
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:23 pm
Damn you all really HATE Tsuru don't you. I personally like her...alot. Great moveset and I like the design too.Maybe not the most important character story-wise but I personally don't rank a character by importance usually design and moveset. You all are just getting way to uptight <_< . Well everyone to their own I suppose.
Well, look at it this way. Normally, I wouldn't give a damn about historical importance in Basara, in the end its just a name, who cares, its how the character acts, their move set, how they interact with other characters, Is what I judge. But then comes SB3, and they cut a large amount of characters for the sake of historical accuracy, then add 'her', who is a very outlandish choice to put in this game, I mean, at least Motonari has some excuses. So that already makes me not like her all too much, But I promised I wouldn't judge her untill the video came, I wasn't impressed at all, and I hate her voice. Her moves a meh to me, her basara was dissapointing (I pictured it differently, so thats mostly my fault) and the fact that she will be involved with Motochika a lot bothers me, Motochika is my favourite character and she is.... Undeserving to me. The importance of her just makes the cuts hurt a little more, it doesn't make me dislike her, its everything else that makes me dislike her. >_>

<('o'<)(>'o')><('o')>(>'o'<)
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I hope the PC and NPC cast is at least 75% and 25%. We have like 15 PCs atm along with... 10 NPCs? I'll wait 4 months.
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:30 pm
I hope the PC and NPC cast is at least 75% and 25%. We have like 15 PCs atm along with... 10 NPCs? I'll wait 4 months.
I think in the end it may be something like this:

15 NPC (Big number O_o )
25 PC

Its reasonable to me and we end up with 40 characters in HEROES.

But you all act as if HEROES is a definite thing, I mean, its highly possible that the extra characters will just be locked DLC. At least thats what I think. Especially with the western release, and the technology being available, I don't think that westeners will be warm to the idea of an expansion when DLC is just as plausible. Considering a big chunk of the western gaming audience are in love with new technology. :P
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:36 pm
eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:30 pm
I hope the PC and NPC cast is at least 75% and 25%. We have like 15 PCs atm along with... 10 NPCs? I'll wait 4 months.
I think in the end it may be something like this:

15 NPC (Big number O_o )
25 PC

Its reasonable to me and we end up with 40 characters in HEROES.

But you all act as if HEROES is a definite thing, I mean, its highly possible that the extra characters will just be locked DLC. At least thats what I think. Especially with the western release, and the technology being available, I don't think that westeners will be warm to the idea of an expansion when DLC is just as plausible. Considering a big chunk of the western gaming audience are in love with new technology. :P
Even if they do release it as dlc. I think alot of ppl will like a hard copy. Capcom did a RE5 gold release which was all the dlc already on the disk. I don't see why they can't do the same for basara.
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eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:41 pm
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:36 pm
eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:30 pm
I hope the PC and NPC cast is at least 75% and 25%. We have like 15 PCs atm along with... 10 NPCs? I'll wait 4 months.
I think in the end it may be something like this:

15 NPC (Big number O_o )
25 PC

Its reasonable to me and we end up with 40 characters in HEROES.

But you all act as if HEROES is a definite thing, I mean, its highly possible that the extra characters will just be locked DLC. At least thats what I think. Especially with the western release, and the technology being available, I don't think that westeners will be warm to the idea of an expansion when DLC is just as plausible. Considering a big chunk of the western gaming audience are in love with new technology. :P
Even if they do release it as dlc. I think alot of ppl will like a hard copy. Capcom did a RE5 gold release which was all the dlc already on the disk. I don't see why they can't do the same for basara.
They could do a hard disc, but maybe they want to move one, and try out DLC in a Basara game. It could be a main reason why they made so many NPCs... To trry out DLC. Also, DLC has the potential to be free, while a hard disc doesn't.
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:45 pm
eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:41 pm
Akiro
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:36 pm
eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:30 pm
I hope the PC and NPC cast is at least 75% and 25%. We have like 15 PCs atm along with... 10 NPCs? I'll wait 4 months.
I think in the end it may be something like this:

15 NPC (Big number O_o )
25 PC

Its reasonable to me and we end up with 40 characters in HEROES.

But you all act as if HEROES is a definite thing, I mean, its highly possible that the extra characters will just be locked DLC. At least thats what I think. Especially with the western release, and the technology being available, I don't think that westeners will be warm to the idea of an expansion when DLC is just as plausible. Considering a big chunk of the western gaming audience are in love with new technology. :P
Even if they do release it as dlc. I think alot of ppl will like a hard copy. Capcom did a RE5 gold release which was all the dlc already on the disk. I don't see why they can't do the same for basara.
They could do a hard disc, but maybe they want to move one, and try out DLC in a Basara game. It could be a main reason why they made so many NPCs... To trry out DLC. Also, DLC has the potential to be free, while a hard disc doesn't.
Why would they make it free? This is Capcom and second, if it's free why don't they just unlock all the content from day 1 to help the sales.

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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:48 pm
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:45 pm
eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:41 pm
Akiro
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:36 pm
eklineage
Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:30 pm
I hope the PC and NPC cast is at least 75% and 25%. We have like 15 PCs atm along with... 10 NPCs? I'll wait 4 months.
I think in the end it may be something like this:

15 NPC (Big number O_o )
25 PC

Its reasonable to me and we end up with 40 characters in HEROES.

But you all act as if HEROES is a definite thing, I mean, its highly possible that the extra characters will just be locked DLC. At least thats what I think. Especially with the western release, and the technology being available, I don't think that westeners will be warm to the idea of an expansion when DLC is just as plausible. Considering a big chunk of the western gaming audience are in love with new technology. :P
Even if they do release it as dlc. I think alot of ppl will like a hard copy. Capcom did a RE5 gold release which was all the dlc already on the disk. I don't see why they can't do the same for basara.
They could do a hard disc, but maybe they want to move one, and try out DLC in a Basara game. It could be a main reason why they made so many NPCs... To trry out DLC. Also, DLC has the potential to be free, while a hard disc doesn't.
Why would they make it free? This is Capcom and second, if it's free why don't they just unlock all the content from day 1 to help the sales.

I don't know. Why would any company give free DLC? Companies do give out free DLC, its not uncommon, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was free. Maybe there were time restraints? Maybe they couldn't fit the characters in. Maybe the characters aren't locked on the disc, there are a number of possiblities, and I was just saying DLC is a possibilty for Basara.
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Hey Jim, welcome to the thread :wave:

Trust me, it's usually a lot more upbeat than this, however everyone is a little frustrated at the moment. I'm sure you'll come to love SB as much as the rest of us.

On the contrary Lady G, I really like Tsuru too! She looks like a fun character and I look forward to playing her. However I can understand why some people are disappointed. After all, she's not a character who can appeal to everyone. Keep in mind that many of the people here are male and may not be attracted to her character or her pink sparkly moveset. ;)

Let's see, if there are 15 NPCs like you guessed there would, that means we still have 5 to go. Shingen ought to be in there somewhere, and perhaps Itsuki and Zabii, but I wonder who the others will be?

I expect more boobs next time Kobapii. And since in the last two weeks we have received a record 4 NPCs, I think we all deserve a group PC update. :hmmm:
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:14 pm
I expect more boobs next time Kobapii. And since in the last two weeks we have received a record 4 NPCs, I think we all deserve a group PC update. :hmmm:
Oh ho ho, no no no. Had we gotten 4 NPC's the last two weeks I think we would be feeling better. We've gotten a whoping 6 NPC's the last two weeks. Mitsukai and Kobayakawa the week of April 1st, Toshiie and Matsu the week after and now we got Hojo and Mogami. Sorry I'm still feeling a bit stung. But really, that has to be enough NPC's for a while now.
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The NPC run can't last much longer, I mean, you can only put so many NPCs in a game, and I snese its coming to a close, I'd rather we see all the NPCs now and get the pain over with. So, Koba, do your worstm give us all the NPCs you've got, please, just end it already.

@Koen: Hey, I actually Like pink :hmmm:

I actually like all colours. :mellow:
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Hmm...Yoshiaki was definitely not what i expected.
Since he was the uncle of Masamune, i expected him to be all strong, tall and serious. Like i can picture him riding on a horse next to masamune and kojuro, telling him to focus and that the enemy blah blah blah.
Masamune just ignores and says HA, WHATEVER! PUT YA GUNS ON!
and marches off by himself.

But lol french dude with a conducting sword and mustache and funny pants? def not what i had expected. Yeah to me he looks just a little bit too ordinary, not a lot going on except for a helmet, mustache, and different pants.
I also imagined him to almost be like Yoshitsune minamoto from WO2, idk maybe its because they both had Yoshi in their names, but i imagined him to have lots of armor and a lightsaber.

Lol Mustache and all French like...anotehr joke character
but hes still a freaking NPC!
geez, why even CREATE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE AND NOT PUT THEM AS PC? TO MAKE US GET MAD? GEEZ he better be playable along with hideaki in Heroes!

By now i won't even be surprised if Ukita is some guy in skinny jeans and a joke character and NPC. I wont be surprised of Todo being a giant nerdy guy with pants pulled up and NPC. I wont be surprised if Ginchiyo was like the most man looking girl ever in SB3 and I wont be surpirsed if the final roster was:

20 PCS
15 NPCS
Honestly, you got your Yoshimoto(probably cut) and Kennyo, Itsuki, Zabi. These 3 would def be NPCS, and plus who knows what Koba wants to do with other characteres i honestly wouldn't be surprised if it ends up like 20 pcs and 15 npcs.
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To all the people inquiring about Tsuchibayashi- He is still mentioned in the staff section of the site as the character designer. I'm sure most of us here are dying to see them but I dont think we'll have to wait that long. I'm thinking they're gonna do it how like they did for SB2: Show off the CGs and the Tsuchi artworks at some point.
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:44 pm
By now i won't even be surprised if Ukita is some guy in skinny jeans and a joke character and NPC. I wont be surprised of Todo being a giant nerdy guy with pants pulled up and NPC. I wont be surprised if Ginchiyo was like the most man looking girl ever in SB3 and I wont be surpirsed if the final roster was:

20 PCS
15 NPCS
Honestly, you got your Yoshimoto(probably cut) and Kennyo, Itsuki, Zabi. These 3 would def be NPCS, and plus who knows what Koba wants to do with other characteres i honestly wouldn't be surprised if it ends up like 20 pcs and 15 npcs.
Hey, Skinny jeans (white skinny jeans BTW, my idea for him, I even drew a concept design for him) Doesn't eqaul Joke character, I like the idea of skinny jeans, it represents a punk-like looks, which is popular in anime now-a-days, so its possible. Yuki wears a leather jacket, Why not Skinny jeans? I can digg it.
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@ Akiro
yeah i know someone mentioned that earlier.
But i know u mean skinny pants like... eh motochika in SW3 and all rockign out and stuff.
but my concept of him was like skinny pants being a joke charcter and being like
Ahh my pants are too tight! and falling to the ground on the battlefield
idk lol
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Akiro,
I never said all guys hate pink, I just stated that it could be a reason for some guys not to like Tsuru ;)

Oh yes, I'd like to see Todo Takatora in skinnys and a long, flowing coat, kinda like his Saihai no Yukue design. Mm.

If Shingen, Kennyo, Istuki and Zabii are all NPC, then means we'll probably only be getting one or two more brand new NPC characters. I just hope that Kobapii gets them out of the way and focuses on the returning characters, gameplay and videos.
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Akiro,
I never said all guys hate pink, I just stated that it could be a reason for some guys not to like Tsuru ;)

Oh yes, I'd like to see Todo Takatora in skinnys and a long, flowing coat, kinda like his Saihai no Yukue design. Mm.

If Shingen, Kennyo, Istuki and Zabii are all NPC, then means we'll probably only be getting one or two more brand new NPC characters. I just hope that Kobapii gets them out of the way and focuses on the returning characters, gameplay and videos.
Fair enough :shifty:

I want to see a character with skinny jeans too. I was thinking Ukita though, just because his name makes me picture him wearing skinni jeans. xD
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I sincerely doubt that Shingen will make an appearance as an NPC. It's been stated that he's too sick to fight and from what has been shown of Yukimura's mental state in the game I think it's safe to assume that Shingen isn't an NPC. If he simply were an NPC, I doubt Yukimura would be behaving like that.

Kennyo, Itsuki and Zabi on the other hand I think are very likely to get the NPC stamp.
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Yeah shingen wasn't even around at that time, he was dead even before Nobunaga...and so i think they'll just 'mention' him in this game saying that hes too ill, but you won't actually even see him.
Or you might, at the end of yukimuras story and he gets all better and ready to fight or something after everything is finished
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So Mogami Yoshiaki, whom everyone has looked forward to for being the uncle of badass Date Masamune, is portrayed as a sassy, limp-wristed Frenchman with a rapier, striped clown skinny pants and a Snidely Whiplash moustache.

That........That's so ****ing hilarious that any hate I could've had for this update is replaced by laughter. I don't even care that he's in the NPC section. Take him for now. I wanna see how he fits.

And they say Basara lost its sense of humor. :XD
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First at Tsuruhime:

Her jokes are for kindergarden kids.
She´s supposed to be Motochika´s rival (you know, that badass shirtless white haired pirate wearing an eye-patch, who calls himself a Demon and carries a huge anchor spear as his weapon now gets "spanked by a schoogirl") even though there was NANA out there,
in every cutscene you allways see the screen go sparkly pink, even when a badass character like Kotaro is at the screen and thus RUINS HIS MOMENT COMPLETELY,
her moveset sucks for crowd clearing since most of the shots/movements are straight forward + her movements are slow and dull compared to other characters
and her voice is just the icing on a (watch the Angry Video Game Nerd and you know what comes)
Also that the ice element is wasted on her, while the other two ice users (the most badass and most funny ice user) are NPCs.
Plus that she´s taking up a female spot that should go to, well every other female character I can think of, while Matsu is a NPC
and she´s OLDER THAN NOBUNAGA. She could be his grandma.

Though I like pink, just like every other color. There´s nothing I dislike in that area. :mellow:

As for the NPC department, Shingen is probably out of the race. He´ll appear in cutscenes, but for being an NPC...he´d have to appear on the battlefield, but he´s sick, even Kenshin "stopped" fighting since the tiger sleeps.

The characters thus left are Musashi, Kennyo, Zabii, Itsuki and Hisahide.

Why write of Itsuki? Just think of all the great story possibilies with her and Tsuruhime. That´s soooooooo cool :cool:

At this point, I wouldn´t be surprised if Musashi and Kennyo are NPCs but Zabii and Itsuki are playable.

Now pick your guess. What would you do if you were a troll and all you want is to piss off the fans :uh:

Now I bet everyone thought about him as another NPC, right? :whistle:

At the expansion thing, CAPCOM did a voting if people want those expansions on disc or DLC (for the RE5 one) and A LOT (and not Kobayashi´s understanding of A LOT, I MEAN A LOT) voted for a hard solid disc.

They did it for RE5, for the Monster Hunter "update called a new game" and for Street Fighter IV. What about all those who don´t have internet? That´s a possible loss. And loss is never good.

Can´t wait to see next week. Maybe we´ll get nothing? Or just one NPC for a change.

@watchtower

That´s what I thought too. Just to awesome.
I had the "Mafia boss" idea of him in my head...and then I saw that. Though with that voice actor, it was clear he´s not going to be a badass old character :rolleyes:

Wait for the next joke characters. Ukita Hideie being Mitsunari´s waterboy. Awesome.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:32 pm.
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At the expansion thing, CAPCOM did a voting if people want those expansions on disc or DLC (for the RE5 one) and A LOT (and not Kobayashi´s understanding of A LOT, I MEAN A LOT) voted for a hard solid disc.

They did it for RE5, for the Monster Hunter "update called a new game" and for Street Fighter IV. What about all those who don´t have internet? That´s a possible loss. And loss is never good.

Can´t wait to see next week. Maybe we´ll get nothing? Or just one NPC for a change.

@watchtower

That´s what I thought too. Just to awesome.
I had the "Mafia boss" idea of him in my head...and then I saw that. Though with that voice actor, it was clear he´s not going to be a badass old character :rolleyes:

Wait for the next joke characters. Ukita Hideie being Mitsunari´s waterboy. Awesome.
Had I been there I would have raised my hand as well. While I understand the advantages with releasing DLC, such as reduced costs, less wait etc., I've never been comfortable with the whole concept. I like having something in my hand, which I insert into my console and play. Messing around with things beyond that just invites disaster in my book since I have enormously bad luck with everything of the kind.

I had imagined Yoshiaki as the grizzled old veteran/mafia boss as well. I saw him as a larger character, not Hideyoshi big but larger than average, using leg braces as his weapons. And in combat he would always have his arms folded in a confidant manner while decimating the enemy with his powerful leg-moves only style.
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Yoshiaki looks retarded. Oh well, I really hope Kotaro didnt get a voice
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As many have stated, indeed the roster is lacking in women. Severely.
So far we only got 3 - all of them returning veterans and 2 are NPCs... :whistle:

Regarding Tsuruhime, I'd say she's a bit of a victim of circumstances. Akiro put it in the best terms - I don't think people oppose her per se, rather her place in the game's setting.
Koba's been spoonfeeding fans with that story progression and removing characters for the sake of historical accuracy bs and then includes a pre-Nobunaga person portrayed as a teenager. A bit of a pie to the face.
Personally, I guess she could prove fun to play as. I can't stand that little git Ranmaru, but he's pretty fun playability-wise, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
But just from her video, her personality appears to be, at the lack of a better term, "pants on head retarded". "I could be a dancer"? :uh:

Anyway, on a more serious note and our resident history buffs please correct me if I'm wrong: putting it on the most basic of terms, Hideaki and Yoshiaki are on Ieyasu's side. That said, would it be fair to expect Mitsunari to also have 2 new NPCs on his side? I can see them being more serious and/or tragic characters so the contrast the goofyness of their eastern counterparts. Hideie and Gohime would be cool since the death of Nagamasa and the Oda cut the series' in terms of couples (something I think always enriched the series').
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Yoshiaki looks retarded. Oh well, I really hope Kotaro didnt get a voice
I´d laugh. That´d be...too awesome.

But since Tadakatsu kept his voice actor and even got a voice update, I really can´t wait to see tomorrow´s voice update for Kotaro :lol:

10 seconds of nothing. Epic.

@Balder:

He allready has so many characters. Ieyasu is the one that needs some support. Also, it was mentioned that Hideaki follows Motonari loyally and Motonari is on the other -nari´s side.

So Ieyasu is now left with the one eyed dragon plus his NPC side kick, silent killing machine, an old guy seeing dead people, stripe pantsu mustache man, "a pink future strip tease dance wannabe", man-face, TEH HONDAM and a naked guy + a hostage.

I could make the western side silly looking too, but it´s just so much more easy with the eastern army. I love that joke army.

Can´t wait to see the Sekigahara battle. Tsuruhime vs. Motochika?
Epic.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:04 pm.
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