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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,146 Views)
Matsunaga Hisahide
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Yep, MP. I was wrong. The quality of the scans wasn´t that good, so I should keep my judgements for myself a bit and wait till I see everything.

I like the turquoise coat, the mustache, his long-torn Waluigi body, the striped pantsu and his original helmet. Also the fact that he uses a Rapier (even though Hisahide has a similiar fighting style) is one of my favourite weapons(sadly I couldn´t use it that well in Demon Souls...such frustations...)

But the fact won´t change that he´s a NPC and we´ll probably have to wait one and a half year to play as him, maybe even longer if there´s no expansion (which I highly doubt :rolleyes: )

And believe me, DOA:Volleyball is an extremely fun game. You might not believe it, but the game engine is quite realistic and the gameplay is pretty deep. It´s like Mario tennis...with a lot of round things to play with. :shifty:
(a friend of mine got it once for 9.99$ for his XBOX...even though he didn´t buy the second one, we both thought it was fun)

And hey, what´s so bad about having "that" in games?

It´s the society we live in. And it´s not like the whole game is about it. If the fangirls get their shirtless Yukimura, why can´t we have a deep insight in some of the female heroes "assests"?

Afterall there´s Mago too, who isn´t about sex appeal (at leat it seems that way, seeing the reaction of many BASARA fans -_- )
and characters like Kennyo or Zabii that don´t quite fit into the dreamworld of women (at least I can´t imagine it)

And BASARA is all about cliches. Kasuga is the big breasted hentai girl, Tsuruhime is for all the pedo´s out there and Magoichi is the strong willed heroine.

Same with the men. Masamune is the fearless lone wolf engrish speaking badass, Yukimura is the naive faithfull shirtless hero and Keiji is the funny love oriented softie.

One who makes you laugh, a bad boy and one just for the looks.
Everythings there.

EDIT:

Sadly, Zero, no word on Hanzo.

I thought we´d see Hanzo and Kojiro for sure this time...but now I even fear for the inclusion of characters such as Todo Takatora and Ukita Hideie.

Let´s just hope for the best. Afterall if it´s a 40 characters roster, despite the chance of them being NPC, there are still a lot of characters we might see.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:34 pm.
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the society we live in... unfortunately...

...did i see you mention "demon's souls"? i have that game... i use a rapier fairly well in it... strangely, despite my proficiency with that weapon... i cant get anywhere in the game itself...

im just interested in more important things than sex... like destruction, death... chaos.... you know, the big things. :)

also, what makes you say kasuga is "big-breasted"?

...what planet do you live on? i dont care about those kinda things, but its not something you cant unsee... kasuga's chest is quite tiny compared to the horrors my eyes have suffered...

GAAH THE PAIN! DESTROY IT ALL! RUINATION!!!

i am glad magoichi is a female this time around, though... i got sick of the womanizing idiot from all of koei's games... i wanted to snap off his bayonet. <_<
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:52 pm.
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Just found an amusing observation. Dunno if this is old though.

Mitsuhide's four-kanji description is 冷眼下瞰 Cold Eye Looking Down
But when he 'revives' as Tenkai, the description becomes 慈眼傍観 Merciful Eye Looking Around

Coincidence much? :lol:
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Maybe Mitsuhide changed... due to some life changing event lol. Or it could be about his mother dying.

I hope his moveset is different. He wasn't that much fun to play as.
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Could be due to the fact that he became a monk, and that he no longer lives under the name "Akechi Mitsuhide".
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Maybe Mitsuhide changed... due to some life changing event lol. Or it could be about his mother dying.

I hope his moveset is different. He wasn't that much fun to play as.
yeah i hope the moveset changes to i never played as mitsuhide but his moveset did look a little boring soo i hope they change it for the best :dance:
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To be honest, he’s really grown on me too. I think I was just setting my hopes too high for him to be the old bad ass stereotype, as its one of my favourite kind of characters. But after seeing a clearer render, his design isn’t as bad as I originally thought. Although, like Ouelis, I’m not too fond of the helmet. I feel it just doesn’t blend too well into Yoshiaki’s twiddling moustache, lollipop taking, villainous appearance.

Its sort of like Toshiie. Due to his barbaric design, I couldn’t really imagine him with his historic helmet... Well, its my only complaint about him, after accepting for who he is. I’m really looking forward to the rapier move-set, and hoping he’ll pull a bomb out his stripped pantsu. Either that or yell NORO NORO BEAM!

I agree on the sex appeal in video games as well. Being meant for fun, I see no harm in adding certain sexual aspects to it. Heck, its one of the reasons I play as Tira in SC4. And seeing as BASARA roster is mostly pretty boys, a lot paired together by the fujoshi, I assume the female members on this board aren’t the only ones wanting more women in the game.

I don’t mean this in a offensive way of course. I know there were women in the Sengoku Jidai who devoted a lot, and it’d pain me to see them reduced to sex objects as much as it pains me to see Kanetsugu as the joke generic, and as some may know, thats a lot. But this is one reason I like Maggie. While some members disagree, I find her quite pretty and, yeah, I see her as eye candy. But she has a strong personality thats respectable and also attractive. Thats the kind of girls I’d like to see more of in the series. Sexy, but not OTT revealing, yet bad ass. While Kasugas fun, I think we only need one of “type” of her character in the series.

That Mitsuhide/Tenkai thing is interesting though. Judging from his laugh at the end of his voice sample, its hard to believe he's truely changed. Well, one things for sure, its one of this biggest things I'm anticipated for in the game :sly:
Edited by Manta Punk, Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:04 pm.
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i dont think the moveset will make much difference anyway, unless he becomes playable in an expansion, if they make one...

also, depending on how the online play is... maybe i'll find myself interested in it and try interacting with some of you guys on it...

...of course, i wouldnt be surprised if everyone turned me down on that suggestion...
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MP, you thought of that too? :dance:
I would´ve laughed so much if silver Foxy´s VA voiced the Fox of Dewa. Would´ve been awesome :XD

The only thing that would make me buy the game now is:

A) Hisahide is playable
B) Todo Takatora AND Ukita Hideie are playable
C) Tenkai has the same laugh as Mitsuhide, but not that baby version at the end of his voice sample, the full psychotic laugh he allways has

A is probably going to happen, since with all the bad news of cut and NPC´d characters, a non-playable or even cut Hisahide would form a rage storm that even god can´t prevent, it´ll probably fail on B, since either Hideie or Takatora isn´t in BASARA 3, will be a NPC or both be NPCs.

You might ask yourself why I´m so obesessed with those two, but they are the most loyal Sekigahara officers of all of them.

Ukita Hideie, second in command of the western army fought fiercly in the battle of Sekigahara, was loyal to Hideyoshi, even when the cause was lost and he was banned with his family...he was later forgiven, but stayed there, untill his death.

Todo Takatora, is a most fascinating man, that served the greatest men in japan´s history and fought bravely in the battle of Sekigahara, staying loyally on Ieyasu´s side, as his friend and advisor till the latters death. Not to mention, Ieyasu´s most trusted advisor.

They are the officers I remembered when I first read about Sekigahara and one of the most important ones, by that.

Since Ii Naomasa is out of the race, it should either be Fukushima Masanori or Todo Takatora that´ll face Ukita Hideie. No one else.
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what about kato kiyomasa guys?
i remember him and fukushima being very important too...
to be honest i didn't even know why todo was famous,
but ive heard of ukita. dam it if they're going to focus on sekigahara
then put MORE CHARACTERS(related to it as well) IN THE FREAKING GAME!
i know a lot of characters has been marked as generics already, but ughh screw kobas rule and these are teh most important ones at sekigahara!

Kato Kiyomasa, Fukushima Masanori(These 2 were like leading men of ishida!)
The Hosokawa! kurodo nagamasa i guess can be represented by his dad, i dont care about that. Todo Takatora( i see that hes pretty popular)
im already angry that yoshiaki's an npc :(
Ii Naomasa! UGH my god im so angry about that
yeah kagetsugu is out def, but he was like one of the 5 elders of hedioyoshi. Ukita played a huge role(probably the biggest) in ishida's side, and i think they shouldve put him in first instead of yoshitsugu. Shima Sakon! and i know masayuki isn't possible but geezus he and yukimura were like the 2 biggest weapons that they had...

get ready! Spectator Basaara 3 coming out JUly 29th!
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Kato Kiyomasa, Fukushima Masanori(These 2 were like leading men of ishida!)
No they weren't. Both fought with Ieyasu. I could see Masanori getting in only because of his Nihongo spear, which would probably ridiculously tricked out with major basara flare. And the only chance Kiyomasa HAD was Kanbei, who Kiyomasa fought with him in Kyuushu during Sekigahara, but now that Kanbei is on the WRONG FRIKEN SIDE I doubt Kiyomasa will make it in. Though, I guess they could have put Kanbei on Ishida's side to try and weasel Kiyomasa on his side aswell, just so Kato and Fuku could be rivals. I could buy that.
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Wooohoo i made zero laugh!
:D the atmosphere's too tense right now and we need some laughta!

haha yeah that would be awesome if yoshiaki did have foxy's voice
ahh off topic but i love one piece...best anime in the whole wide world for me...
but i guess foxy would fit yoshiaki.
lol theres so much animal resemblence in the sengoku era!

yoshiaki- fox
shikanosuke(did i spell that right?)- deer
shingen- tiger
dosan- serpent
uesugi- dragon
ujiyasu- lion
hedioyoshi- you can say ppl called him monkey
toshiie- his name had a dog, so i guess he was called da dog with hedioyoshi.
and then nobunaga- DEMON
*DUN DUN DUN*....

but hes dead now :) so nooo 'devils' here(devil kings)
hahah see what i did there?
hahahahahahahah ahahhahahaha you know that was good!
YOU KNOW THAT WAS ReALLY GOOD!!!!
hahahahaha
okkayy now................
*sigh*
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I think we should stop with the Spectator stuff.

Kiyomasa is definitely one of my top wishlists (incase The Kobman didn't pull a "one PC per region" rule). I want him to add some to Kanbei's story. He will also benefit the future.

And more girls, please.
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oh woops my brain was dead i meant to say they were on leyasu's side!
ahh sry. but hmm soo thats kanbei's story huh?
with that in mind i guess kato has no chance lol...too bad for him.
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Not really. He could be the one to knock some sense into Kanbei's head and make him leave Mitsunari.

But since Kanbei is dubbed as ambitious and want to take over the land (and go to jail because of that), I could see beating both Mitsunari and Ieyasu, whoever is first.
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oh woops my brain was dead i meant to say they were on leyasu's side!
ahh sry. but hmm soo thats kanbei's story huh?
with that in mind i guess kato has no chance lol...too bad for him.
Actually, Kiyomasa does have a chance, Kiheiji's post reminded me that they could make Kiyomasa and Kanbei rivals, which would explain Kanbei being on Ishida's side. But Kato's possible inclusion makes it seem less likely for Fuku's inclusion. I feel its really one or the other with those two.
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ok im not real good with the sengoku history here,
so in real life did kato and kanbei fight against each other at sekigahara or something?
this is so confusing, but:
soo kanbei Fought for real on whose side? Leyasu? i thought he was dead by then
and then soo basara switched the story around, and so now kanbei is on ishida's side? Im sorry if im really stupid at this but i dont know lol.
and then maybe kato, whos on leyasu's side, could fight him and then leading to their rivalrY?

idk lol
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ok im not real good with the sengoku history here,
so in real life did kato and kanbei fight against each other at sekigahara or something?
this is so confusing, but:
soo kanbei Fought for real on whose side? Leyasu? i thought he was dead by then
and then soo basara switched the story around, and so now kanbei is on ishida's side? Im sorry if im really stupid at this but i dont know lol.
and then maybe kato, whos on leyasu's side, could fight him and then leading to their rivalrY?

idk lol
Its Ieyasu, not Leyasu lol.

Historically, Kanbei wasn't at Sekigahara, he was in Kyuushu fighting. He was on the Eastern side (Tokugawa and Toyotomi loyalists/ Ishida haters [gonna hate!]) along with Kiyomasa, the two didn't quite like each other, mainly because Kato hated christians, which Kanbei was one, but in battle they worked well together.
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ok i get that so far...but in real life they didn't really 'fight' each other right? like going to war with each other, since kanbei died so soon?

and then sooo basara made the story that kanbei was on ishida's side right? and then so kiyomasa's on leyasu's side and then they can fight since they didn't like each other that much?
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Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:51 pm
oh woops my brain was dead i meant to say they were on leyasu's side!
ahh sry. but hmm soo thats kanbei's story huh?
with that in mind i guess kato has no chance lol...too bad for him.
Actually, Kiyomasa does have a chance, Kiheiji's post reminded me that they could make Kiyomasa and Kanbei rivals, which would explain Kanbei being on Ishida's side. But Kato's possible inclusion makes it seem less likely for Fuku's inclusion. I feel its really one or the other with those two.
ohh i would definetly love kato to appear and for him to be kanbei's rival but wait isnt kanbei's rival yoshihiro well i still want kiyomasa in with a tiger theme :wub: :D
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yeah kiyomasa would be great...i liked him and fukushima in sw3 they were great combinations
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@Chibigingi- Look at what your 'boob' comment as brought about! lol :meantongue:
HAHA, VICTORY! Has I reached troll status yet? Though, I will never be as good as Drew or necrosis, or even the great Kobayashi. Shouldn't get my hopes up.

No, seriously, had I known it would be taken seriously by anyone, I probably would have gone about it another way, but again, why let one person ruin the fun?

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@Zero- It's hard to think you're calm and collective when you're talking about breaking necks, that's all. Also, no one really cares about technicality in regards to men having breasts... that'd be like me saying all women 'technically' having inverted penises, off topic conversation that, really, no one wants to talk about. So, yeah, let's drop the "boobs" comment, since obviously it's only causing issues rather than what it was meant for; light-hearted fun.

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NOW FOR SOMETHING ACTUALLY ON TOPIC.

Not sure about Kiyomasa joining the crew, though I wouldn't have any objections to it. I didn't mind him so much in the dreadful other game that cannot be mentioned here, so the more Kiyomasa the better.

Personally, I'd rather Fukushima than Kiyomasa, only because that other evil game I cannot mention made him NPC... but still, the tricked out weapon idea sounds epic. Like Cloud's sword(s) in Advent Children, except even more great because it's Basara.
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And seeing as BASARA roster is mostly pretty boys, a lot paired together by the fujoshi, I assume the female members on this board aren’t the ones wanting more women in the game.


*ahem* Excuse me, but while I do enjoy having an appealing male cast, ChibiGingi, LadyGetsuei and I have been calling for more female characters since the beginning! And not some love-struck Yamato Nadeshiko in a skimpy outfit, but strong, badass, confident women like Magoichi. I don't agree with women, or men for that matter, being portrayed as purely sexual objects, but there's is nothing wrong with Kasuga's breasts jiggling around (since they would be defying the laws of physics if they didn't with what she wears).

Zero, no offence but you sound like you're seeking attention and maybe that is why some people here won't take you seriously. I for one am not impressed by your talk of snapping peoples necks. Try and tone it down a little. There’s no reason why we can't all get on nicely and talk about Basara. ^_^

I want Kiyomasa and Masanori to be included too, I can imagine that Masanori's weapon would be really fun to experiment with (though I don't know how the whole "fusion sword" thing would work). Kiyomasa having a tiger theme like in SW would be interesting, btu I don't think it's likely since Shingen and Yukimura already have that. Ukita Hideie is a must have, and Todo Takatora would definitely be an interesting addition. Whether or not we'll actually get them is up to Kobapii. <_<
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She praised Necrosis and Kobayashi for being good trolls! :o
She talked about the game that cannot be named! :o
And she talked about penises! :o

This is blasphemy!

See Kobayashi?...this is happens when you only give us one lousy PC, but four NPCs and now we even have to wait for something new before we haven´t heard their voices...can´t wait to hear my favourite female say:"Hey, I´m a hostage now, but don´t worry, I´m non-playable anyways, kinda like Takechiyo...even though everyone hated that, it happened again...funny coincidence, ey?"

So the list of dreams that will be broken:

Playable Matsunaga Hisahide
Playable Miyamoto Musashi
Ukita Hideie
Todo Takatora
Hanzo Hattori
Kato Kiyomasa
Fukushima Masanori
Sasaki Kojiro

Out of this list I bet half aren´t even in the game, two will be NPC and two might be playable.

But cheer up fellas, Cartman´s true father will soon be revealed, in episode 201 of South Park (probably) and I´ve solved the other great mystery, the Kobayashi code.

Since some still have trust in that "thing", we might trust his ____ty HEROES roster comment.

Since now we have a overall roster of 25 characters, 15 PCs, 10 not.

So...we still have five remaining veterans. And since Oichi is playable and Ujimasa is back (both having none to zero use or reason to be there) chances are high for Hisahide, Musashi, Kennyo, Itsuki and Zabii to join the fray, NPC or not. And since it means that there really are only eight characters cut (the 7 fated + since Mitsuhide is alive, it´s still 8 with Shingen) so we´ll see them.

That means we´d allready have 30 characters.
But A) How can you stretch out 3 looooong months with only 5 characters, if that´s the time, for a PR department to do their job and PR the game?
B) Mitsunari, Yoshitsugu, Kanbei, Magoichi, Tsuruhime, Hideaki, Yoshiaki are the only new characters + Ieyasu it might be 8.

That´s 7. Two of them are even unplayable. That´s not the promised A LOT I had in mind.

Also the fact that two of them are joke characters, two of them are not in any way related to Sekigahara, one of them even fights on the wrong side...where are the famous characters? Were are those that shined in the campaigns (Sekigahara isn´t just the battle) shortly before the grand battle? We all know that Kanetsugu got the shaft, but there are so many more.

It can´t be everything. It just can´t be. Even if I´m such a pessimistic being that hates Kobayashi with everything he has...it simply can´t be in the year 2010, were Megaman is supposed to be alive kicking robo master butts and there are people who should live on the moon + everyone should own a Robo-pet instead of real pets(that´s what we´ve believed in back then, right... :rolleyes: ). In two years the world will end. This is not the time for bad jokes CAPCOM.

So again, heads up, everyone. The characters problem will solve itself. Even if we´ll end up having 20 characters and 21 boss characters. They´ll be playable before 2012. I promise.

(this is the last time, I´ll save your butt Kobayashi. You better bring us the lot of characters you promised)
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:10 pm.
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hahaha thanks for the inspiring words DK!

Also, supposedly Basara 3 is at Captivate 2010, so I'm wondering if anything actually NEW will come out of it, characters, videos, a US release date perhaps...
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