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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:08 pm Post #5051 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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HnB, you are not the only one. Mogami Yoshiaki was my hope for a cool character...well... There´s still the Amago rep out there and if it´s really the samurai of the crescent moon and is supposed to be Motonari´s rival, I really hope they make him into a badass character, not another Tsuruhime (another filler character) Keiji, Kanbei a bit, Kanetsugu generic NPC, Hideaki, Yoshiaki, Tsuruhime. Then there are still Kasuga, Sasuke, Toshiie and Matsu who might add some comedy like in the old days, but I´m sure Ujimasa will deliever. We have enough characters, that haven´t even some seriousness in them and those who´ll add a few laughs. It´s enough for the moment, with the open spots of Zabii, Itsuki and Kennyo. We have enough laughs. That´s why I really hope, that if characters like Ukita Hideie, Todo Takatora and Yamanaka Shikanosuke, they better be badass characters. Also, regarding the mad scientist thing, I know who I had in mind: My good old Jounen jump villain Orochimaru. Such a sick bastard. And now that I thought about it...I want a joker. Someone that resembles a jester...if there´s gotta be another joke character, I hope he looks like something like that. The one from Devil May Cry 3 was awesome EDIT: Enygma, you´re a bit too soon. The leak comes out either today or tomorrow. But I wouldn´t get my hopes up for characters or such a grand thing. I, for one, hope we´ll get at least some new infos, maybe about gameplay, modes, items, weapons, just something. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:15 pm.
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| Enygma | Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:13 pm Post #5052 |
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Nothing on Famitsu this week or hasn't it been confirmed yet? EDIT: I see, thanks DK. Edited by Enygma, Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:12 pm.
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:50 pm Post #5053 |
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yeah we need atleast something but im still hoping for another new PC which i know is very unlikely just let me hope
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| JHouser | Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:50 pm Post #5054 |
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Han's Unifier
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/captivate-10-sengoku-basara/64627 Trailer with English voiceovers........... OMG..........Johnny Yong Bosh voices Yukimura in SB3!!! http://www.gametrailers.com/game/sengoku-basara-samurai-heroes/11633 More vids........ Edited by JHouser, Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:52 pm.
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| Flashbang Incentive | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:04 pm Post #5055 |
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OMG OMG OMFG!!!!!!!!!I was watching the English voiceovers, and realized something AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MASAMUNE DATE IF VOICED BY THE GUY WHO DID DANTE IN DMC4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY TWO FAVORITE VIDEOGAME CHARACTERS HAVE THE SAME VOICE ACTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GUESS WHO DOES YUKIMURA??????????????THE GUY WHO DID NERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I AM HYPED ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. I am sorry for spam. I am very happy And I am very, very sad........There was no DMC5 at Captivate........or at least I don't think so....... |
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| Kiheiji | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:16 pm Post #5056 |
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Seems like they are using the western name order for the overseas version. Not shocking, but doesn't discomfort me. At least no more Azure Dragon. |
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| Balder | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:16 pm Post #5057 |
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Thanks for the link JHouser. I guess this makes it the whole Captivate package - MvC3, BC2 and SBSH. Even though I would have prefered the Japanese voices (still crossing fingers for dual-audio, at least as DLC for the PS3 version) I'm not intolerant enough to look down upon a good quality dub and so far it seems solid. Bosch did a great job in DMC4 and P4, so I'm sure he's competent. Mitsunari's voice actor seemed to play the role well too. It's the more "peculiar" characters I'm looking forward to hearing (namely Yoshitsugu and to a certain extent of the term "peculiar", Yoshiaki, Tenkai, Kanbei and the Motos). But it's the women who worry me the most. In Oichi's case, a less than perfect VA may ruin the character. I'm already coming to terms that Tsuruhime will be ear-grating awful though... |
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:19 pm Post #5058 |
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Well...the voices don't seem so bad, do they? But the script editing is pretty damn fierce. Guess DK will be happy, Basara has never been so serious..... EDIT: It looks like they used the same stages, but these are new videos, in a way. The quotes and some moves etc are different. Still, we can already spot mistranslations...(albeit minor) LOL at Mitsunari asking Hideyoshi to forgive him...talk about out of character! A minor nitpick, but isn't it weird to see "Soldier (Ieyasu)" as the normal NPCs' name? Would "Tokugawa soldier" have been too hard to understand...? Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:33 pm.
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:20 pm Post #5059 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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And no one noticed something awkward...in the first trailer, the real translation was the time times turn towards Sekigahara. And the english version talks about rivalries? Will the historic stuff, just like the name order, be ignored again EDIT: Okay, forget what I said. It´s just the name order that´s messed up. And the cheesy dialogues...and the awkward breaks between the character lines. Am I the only one that thinks, that the original Devil Kings voices sounded better Especially Yukimura... I come bearing a gift four you, Ieyasu...the gift of death! This is so bad...that´s allmost worse. And in that video. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/captivate-10-sengoku-basara/64621 Look at the translation. Mitsunari is saying: I come bearing a gift four you, Ieyasu...the gift of death! Look at the dialogue box. Instead of Ieyasu, it says Ideas. And listen to Yoshitsugu´s voice...he sounds like a british noble man slurping some tea with crackers. They totally found the perfect english voice for him. Cool. A promotianal trailer and allready translation errors, cheesy dialogue and bad voice acting. That sounds like promising sale numbers. Hey, but those aren´t the same videos we saw There´s even a new skill for Mitsunari, that "slice shot wave". And we see Tadakatsu doing his taunt. And Ieyasu´s video, he does an elbow drop, you can see the "Rock Smash" and there´s a glowing item left, after he defeated a normal soldier, it looked like a hammer. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:37 pm.
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| Balder | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:32 pm Post #5060 |
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I see what you mean, but bear in mind that this is a new product they are selling and for all intents and purposes, the average consumer isn't familiar with these people and their historical background. From a business perspective, I think they do well by treading lightly and not overwhelm the consumer with too much factual information. First and foremost, they are selling the characters. If the general public warms up to them, then perhaps Capcom might be more daring with the history on a possible sequel. Look at Okami, that game was also "dumbed down" for Westerners. I personally don't like it, as it feels very condescending but from a purely business point-of-view, it's not a decision we can blame. On a side note and speaking of Okami, the DS sequel Okami-Den was also showcased at Captivate, so fans of the artistic wolf sun goddess might want to look that one up too. |
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| Manta Punk | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:36 pm Post #5061 |
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They sound... so... weird. Hearing them in English, I dunno, it feels strange. The scripts not too good as well. C'mon, Masamune Date and Yukimura Sanada?! "Like a whirlpool, shall the spirit of fire turn"... I feel Bosch maybe too serious for Yukimura. I just can't imagine him screaming "Oyakata-sama", "Lord Awesome!" or whatever the translated equivalent will be. Mitsunari, on the other hand, sounds great. He can't beat Seki in the "IEYASUUU!" department, but I wasn't really expecting him to. I also like the new sword-beam-thing skill they showed us. But Yoshi... what have they done to you >:-/ I feel Masamune sounds too young and Ieyasu sounds too old. Sauke has your generic anime voice... which is a shame. Nara Shikamaru's VA would have fitted so much better IMO. Overall, I wouldn't have been as fussy if they didn't change the correct name order. Hopefully it'll include the original seiyuus, otherwise, they've probably lost a sale from me. Edited by Manta Punk, Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:39 pm.
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| JHouser | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:44 pm Post #5062 |
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Han's Unifier
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Bosch was funny as Vash the Stampede...........so I would hold some hope for comedy. Then again, I was surprised Bosch voicing Yukimura AGAIN. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:45 pm Post #5063 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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So the new things we can see in the vids are: Yukimura has his "spin wheel move" were you can either spin or just do an up flip attack. You can see Ieyasu´s "rock smash skill" and an air elbowdrop. Mitsunari has a skill were he sends a "cut wave" in front of him and it seems it can be charged up. Tadakatsu does his taunt move. There´s a new item after you defeat an enemy, it´s a glowing wooden hammer (maybe raises attack? )We can cleary see the new "strong man" enemies. And the characters are more detailed. Look at Masamune´s crescent moon on his helmet for example. There are small cracks in it now. So they worked out the details now. Still, the voices...those voices...if there´s no dual audio, I see black...oh god...I can´t wait to see who voices Matsunaga Hisahide...oh, sorry...Hisahide Matsunaga...what´s the name of the guy who voices Spongebob again? BK...I guess we can´t feel your pain now, can we And NDY...I thought you wouldn´t have to translate the game for us again...but it seems that the japanese dialogue is a 100 times better and more serious than this cheesy stuff. Hope we can rely on your skills, this time too. EDIT: P.S: It´s not that the english VA´s wouldn´t do a good job. It´s just A) That I like JAP voices more, since they put in more emotions B) A lot of the ENG voices just don´t match the characters (personality and design) C) Most of the JAP VA´s allready have a lot of experience with the characters they voice So it´s not to insult the english VAs. They just don´t match up with the characters.
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| Kratos Aurion | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:46 pm Post #5064 |
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MOAR
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So far I can tell that Richard Epcar and Kirk Thornton voice generic people, Liam O'Brien voices Ieyasu, and JYB voices Yukimura. Am I alone in thinking Yuri Lowenthal would have been a better Yukimura, and JYB a better Masamune? Gonna check out the other videos, see whose voices I can recognize. Edit: LOL, Yuri Lowenthal voices Date..wow, my ideal casting is reversed! Is that possibly Troy Baker as Mitsunari? And..Sam Riegal as Motonari? Steve Staley and Tony Oliver a Generic? As far as I can tell, the dubbing is making a lot of people..annoyed. Edited by Kratos Aurion, Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:57 pm.
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| Balder | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:52 pm Post #5065 |
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After watching the gameplay videos, Ieyasu sounds a little bit too dignified. It's amusing seeing him talk about "bonds" while running around cracking the skulls of poor commoners. Sasuke was a little too serious for my tastes. DK's Talon was far more fitting. Yoshitsugu was a grave disappointment. Very unfitting. Sounded perhaps a little bit too "healthy". Motonari sounded "adequate". Needed more hammy moments like the original. Mitsunari's new skills seemed really cool. He might become a favorite of mine gameplay-wise. Honda easily had the best VA of the bunch. Anyway, the way I see it, if the voice acting is going to be a disappointment and we don't get dual audio - buy this one so we can understand the story and import the expansion because that one is all about mindless fun. Alternatively, we the fans and potential buyers could voice our concern and ask if there will be a dual audio option and politely bug 'em in case of a negative reply. I sincerely don't want Sengoku Basara - Ham Heroes. |
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| Kratos Aurion | Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:59 pm Post #5066 |
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MOAR
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I would LOVE Sengoku BASARA: Hammy Heroes! And DK, I do wish the DK voices were there, the Ocean Dub group gets far less roles than the Funimation ones. At least now, we know who the voices are going to be. It's putting a lot of people off, but I have very few complaints..I've yet to hear any of the girls, but hell, I doubt they can do worse than Tsuruhime's voice in JP..screeching lolis at their worst. Edited by Kratos Aurion, Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:59 pm.
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:05 pm Post #5067 |
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well im soo very happy of this news i loved Johnny Yong Bosh's voice in DMC4 and as ichigo in bleach he sounds soo cool and i always wanted him in SB and now he voices yukimura this is great and i also noticed in ieyasu's voice sounds like garra from naruto im not sure if it is? now we can look foward to english gameplay vids of the new characters(mostly kanbei and tsuru for me) and it seems the gameplay vids also changed a bit from the japanese ones but this is great im so happy EDIT:i think ieyasu's voice is cool but it sounds to "dark" to be his and im sorry for being late i didnt refresh the page before posting and also am i the only one who is actually happy with all the english voices(so far) Edited by DarkMantisTalon, Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:31 pm.
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| The Outsider | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:07 pm Post #5068 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Hi . Anything new announced about this bundle of joy over the past few days then? Any new speculations?
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| Ouelis | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:12 pm Post #5069 |
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Honestly I think that's the case 9.5 times out of 10 so I'm not really that annoyed by it. But anyway, I actually don't have too much against the English voices. Sure, they could absolutely use some improvements but overall I think they're passable, borderline enjoyable. Mitsunari had the best feel and delivery out of the bunch I'd say. Yukimura was alright, Masamune was the one who made me cringe a bit, Sasuke was pretty generic so nothing really to say about that and I actually LIKE Ieyasu's more serious/adult tone. Can't say why though. So, I'm going to say that overall I like the voice work. Could be better, but I've heard much much MUCH worse. But I gotta say, I think you are being a bit to harsh on the script. It certainly sounds strange, a bit strained and above all cheesy, but honestly the Japanese dialogue isn't exactly Pulitzer prize material either. And frankly, I don't care. I don't play Basara to hear a story. I play it for the action. Which leads me to my next point. The fact that I think the new videos seem to play vastly superior to the old ones. There's just a lot more speed, action and BASARA in them. Especially in Mitsunari's. The last air combo against Ieyasu really impressed me. By the way, for anyone here who gets their news from Kotaku they wrote that they had an interview with the game's producer that will be posted sometime this week. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on it. |
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| JHouser | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:18 pm Post #5070 |
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Han's Unifier
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I think there should be a dual voice option..........considering how much information a Blu-Ray disc can carry. Then again.......it may not be an option for those who would get it for the Wii. I'm not too worried about the dialouge........it's still in the works, and it's not a final build. |
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| ZeroTheWarrior | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:24 pm Post #5071 |
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Am I... A monster?
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are the videos on youtube, yet? i cant watch them on gametrailers, they're so damn laggy, its more like a slideshow than anything else... and thats after waiting 40 minutes for it to load the page and video advertisement... gametrailers really sucks... wish they didnt have so much heavy crap on the page... impossible for not-so-great computers to use... |
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| Balder | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:27 pm Post #5072 |
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I see what you mean but, and that's probably my main concern regarding this game, the team may want the game to be exactly the same on both platforms. Basically meaning that PS3 owners are getting suckered into paying €70 (sticking to my currency) for a very good Wii game, but a Wii game nonetheless. Of course this is pure speculation, so I'll reserve my judgment for when the game goes gold. Still undeniable that if this were a PS3 exclusive (or PS3/X360 release), the game could have a lot more content. |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:28 pm Post #5073 |
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You know, I know a lot of you guys really don't like the Masamune-yukimura voice actors, but I think they work really well together. Also, I really don't think it's them, it's the scriptwriting! "The Mirrors have attacked us!" Anyway, I'm glad they got my favorite voice actor of all time to do my favorite video game characters of all time. That's really I can say. And Nero doing Yukimura makes it even better for me, because DMC4 is my favorite game of all time, and Dante and Nero have a rivalry, and now they're in SB! This makes me really happy. I did notice the "Ideas" thing though. Hopefully they'll fix it. They're gonna have to go through it one more time before release, right? I am satisfied, for the most part. They're better than I expected them to be. Especially Mitsunari and Masamune. One more thing, the combo word, if you will, I've never even heard of it before. It's like Nioe or something...... |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:37 pm Post #5074 |
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soooo is this all the update for this week(besides the producer interview) or is there scans? |
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| Claus | Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:42 pm Post #5075 |
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Wow! That was quick, I've never seen a game release english trailers so early, while the release dates are considerably far apart. Anyway, obviously the voice acting wasn't going to be as good as the JAP version, so that wasn't a shocker. The chessiness didn't bother me, the JAP version is just a chessy, it just sounds more cheesy because some of you didn't understand what they were saying, and believe me, not understanding what they are saying takes a lot away from cheesiness, even with subtitles, it just sounds normal. Okay, so the western name order stings a lil bit, But is nothing I can't handle, its to be expected since this is being brought into a different language. Now that all that is out of the way, I'll give my impressions on the actual voice acting. I'm gernerally impressed. The voices are pretty solid. Which is good, I was expecting something like that DK atrocity (I seem to be the only person who hated DK's voice acting, but its honestly one of the worst I've ever heard, I really hate it) but this is leagues better. Ieyasu and Yukimura are a little bit too deep, but I've already warmed up to Ieyasu and now I like it, its suiting for him, its a very self-righteous and hero-like voice. And they just naile dit with Masamune and Mitsunari, I love those two voices, they're just great. I was very worried for those two, but they did a great job in chosing who did their voices. The acting itself is also really good, they deliver the lines well, adn it doesn't make me cringe so that is a major plus. Oh yeah, and Sasuke's voice was pretty good. Sounds like Ed from FMA a little bit, I like it. Now to watch the rest since I've only seen the character trailer and Ieyasu's. Oh, before I forget, the pronounciation of the japanese names is very good too. |
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