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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,139 Views)
JHouser
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I agree with that concern to Balder..........to me it wouldn't be fair that certain things get scrapped from the PS3 version to appease the Wii version.

We'll just have to wait and see.

I think the English voice actors are great so far..............with what's given to them.

It's always the female VA's I tend to have an issue with.
Edited by JHouser, Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:50 pm.
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Tetsuo9999
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It's likely that KOEI got the same union voice actors for SW3, so...

Prepare for Maximum Johnny Overload. I am quite pleased that they're not going to try and sugarcoat/gloss over the game's historical background like last time, which should help to increase sales.
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Thanks a lot for the links!

Wow, I'm not really sure what to think. Dante and Masamune go well together, and Mitsunari seems to have got the screaming right, but I'm not sure about Yukimura. Maybe I'll get used to it, Johnny Yong Bosch does a lot screaming. But Ieyasu is all wrong, he sounds far, far too old. Motonari could have been worse I suppose, same with Sasuke, and Yoshitsugu (need to hear a little more of him, though I have no idea why on earth they would make him British...)

Overall, I think that the background acting was the best. Looks like the soldiers will still be able to make us laugh.
Some of the quotes were very narmy, but I actually liked a few of them, and the lip syncing doesn't look as horrific as I had feared. Their Japanese wasn't too bad either. But dear god, WHY did they have to go and put the names in western order? WHY?! :facepalm:

But still, so far so good. Nice to see a little more action in the videos. I'll still get it.

One more thing, there's been mention that apparently Shingen "disappeared". Wonder what this could mean? :huh:
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..........I beg of you, if you still care for your sanity, please do NOT open the spoiler box under any circumstances, do NOT reply to this post in any way, and ignore this post as if it never exists. Trust me, it's not only for my good, but yours too.
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murakumo
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.... wait, I'm confused, what was that all about?
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:00 pm
.... wait, I'm confused, what was that all about?
Well, a little History lesson for you.

BK... Has absolutely no tolerance for changing name order. Even someone just using the incorrect name order makes him cringe, so this is not a good sight for him.

BUt BK said not to respond to his comment, so I'll just shut up.
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The Outsider
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:00 pm
.... wait, I'm confused, what was that all about?
I don't get it either :/ ...
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ZeroTheWarrior
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i cant believe people are complaining because the names' order is first name, last name... instead of traditional japanese last name, first name...

...and people said i took things too seriously... :shifty:

also, i see nothing wrong with the voices... some people think the japanese voices are better... but, really... to me, its just gibberish... no matter how cool they may sound...

though with english subtitles, i guess it might be tolerable... so long as i know whats going on...

Edit: *peeks at the "spoilers"* ...hey, no fair... why do admins get to spam? :rolleyes:

seems like theres never an end to complaints, though... atleast we got their REAL names this time around...

seriously, what would you rather have... azure dragon, or masamune date?

no reason to complain just cause its not backwards, "date masamune".

oh, and johnny's yelling... can you blame him? he does alot of screaming in anime... think he did VA in dragonball z... and then theres ichigo in bleach... almost every line is a scream, i personally love his voice! :heart:

cant wait to play as ichigo kurosaki!

...i mean yukimura sanada. :blush:
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:16 pm.
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:00 pm
.... wait, I'm confused, what was that all about?
so am i was that a bad reaction or a good one??? well if your leaving please keep giving us the scans :bowdown:
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The Outsider
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ZeroTheWarrior
Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:08 pm
i cant believe people are complaining because the names' order is first name, last name... instead of traditional japanese last name, first name...

...and people said i took things too seriously... :shifty:

also, i see nothing wrong with the voices... some people think the japanese voices are better... but, really... to me, its just gibberish... no matter how cool they may sound...

though with english subtitles, i guess it might be tolerable... so long as i know whats going on...
I have to say, I agree with you. Never understood the reason as to why people play Japanese versions/ports of games if they do not understand Japanese language, they're basically saying the plot doesn't mean squat to them and are simply playing for game mechanics. The name order doesn't matter to me either, I've gotten used to it in SW :/ .

I don't mind watching films with the Japanese language, in fact I prefer it immensely, but when it comes to games :/ , I gotta say 'English Please'.
Edited by The Outsider, Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:15 pm.
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Tetsuo9999
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:12 pm
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:08 pm
i cant believe people are complaining because the names' order is first name, last name... instead of traditional japanese last name, first name...

...and people said i took things too seriously... :shifty:

also, i see nothing wrong with the voices... some people think the japanese voices are better... but, really... to me, its just gibberish... no matter how cool they may sound...

though with english subtitles, i guess it might be tolerable... so long as i know whats going on...
I have to say, I agree with you. Never understood the reason as to why people play Japanese versions/ports of games if they do not understand Japanese language, they're basically saying the plot doesn't mean squat to them and are simply playing for game mechanics. The name order doesn't matter to e either, I've gotten used to it in SW :/ .

I don't mind watching films with the Japanese language, in fact I prefer it immensely, but when it comes to games :/ , I gotta say 'English Please'.
What is wrong with favoring gameplay over story? Isn't that how gaming started in the first place, with gameplay being the focus with the plot being little more than a few sentences in the manual or intro screen? I've always cared about the gameplay more than anything, as watching the same cutscenes over and over isn't what keeps me coming back. Tons of recent games have suffered as a result of favoring fancy cutscenes and plot over the core gameplay (DW6, FF13, etc.), so I'm glad that BASARA is keeping its original background intact.


Call me old-fashioned, but I rarely give more than two ***** about the story if all it means is that the gameplay is going to be a broken mess.
Edited by Tetsuo9999, Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:20 pm.
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Hmm... Well.... I don't know.
It's not to bad but i really hope that Japanese voices will be an option.
Also, Holy crap at the Mitsunari video :OMG: . Those combos was just the sort of awesomeness that i expected from a Sengoku BASARA game :dance:
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Did anyone else besides BK and I realize in one screen, it was Western order, then in another screen, it was traditional Eastern? The inconsistency..oh my, maybe they're in progress of changing the script to Eastern order, and they hadn't got to that one yet...or maybe it's the other way around..

BK, with that many spoiler tags, you KNEW we'd want to see it even more.
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Tetsuo9999
Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:19 pm
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:12 pm
ZeroTheWarrior
Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:08 pm
i cant believe people are complaining because the names' order is first name, last name... instead of traditional japanese last name, first name...

...and people said i took things too seriously... :shifty:

also, i see nothing wrong with the voices... some people think the japanese voices are better... but, really... to me, its just gibberish... no matter how cool they may sound...

though with english subtitles, i guess it might be tolerable... so long as i know whats going on...
I have to say, I agree with you. Never understood the reason as to why people play Japanese versions/ports of games if they do not understand Japanese language, they're basically saying the plot doesn't mean squat to them and are simply playing for game mechanics. The name order doesn't matter to e either, I've gotten used to it in SW :/ .

I don't mind watching films with the Japanese language, in fact I prefer it immensely, but when it comes to games :/ , I gotta say 'English Please'.
What is wrong with favoring gameplay over story? Isn't that how gaming started in the first place, with gameplay being the focus with the plot being little more than a few sentences in the manual or intro screen? I've always cared about the gameplay more than anything, as watching the same cutscenes over and over isn't what keeps me coming back. Tons of recent games have suffered as a result of favoring fancy cutscenes and plot over the core gameplay (DW6, FF13, etc.), so I'm glad that BASARA is keeping its original background intact.


Call me old-fashioned, but I rarely give more than two ***** about the story if all it means is that the gameplay is going to be a broken mess.
Take it you don't play Metal Gear :rolleyes: ? Yeah, that is how gaming started, buttt, having no 'real' story is a little old now I think. If gameplay was all that mattered thennn, there would be no rules, and that means anybody could make anything, and what would be the point. That's going as far to say Liquid Snake read a book, he saw Nobunaga Oda, he turned him into a machine, Magoichi came back from the dead, was actually a woman ( :D ), fell in love with a robot and called upon Bahumut to save the day :dance: . And don't diss FFXIII, loads of people like that gameplay :unsure: ...

Of course we all play for different reasons, you're entitled to your own too :) . I just don't like to play anything that has no real 'engaging' narrative, doesn't have to be overly complicated, just well, present and believable for the world the characters are set in. You're not old-fashioned ^_^ .
Edited by The Outsider, Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:35 pm.
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I may not care for FF13's gameplay, but I was referring to the long-winded and high detailed cutscenes being the direct result of the game being almost entirely linear.
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Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:37 pm
I may not care for FF13's gameplay, but I was referring to the long-winded and high detailed cutscenes being the direct result of the game being almost entirely linear.
:lol: , that is true. Can't even change your party until Chapter 9, I think :unsure: . Seems a little unnecessary doesn't it.

Anyway, this isn't about FFXII, it's about Basara. I have yet to watch the new videos for the game in English. hope they're ok.

EDIT: What on earth is going on with those voices. I feel like something has been lost :/ . The only good one was Yukimura and Mitsunari in odd parts. Motonari's voice was awesome though.
Edited by The Outsider, Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:48 pm.
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So far, the videos are the same as the JP ones aside from the English voice acting and text. It seems like they're localizing the game at the same time that the JP version is being developed like Tales of Vesperia, so the US release shouldn't be too far behind.
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So...Liam Tokugawa eh? A strange choice, but Dante Masamune amuses me. Bosch Sanada is predictable though.
Who the hell is voicing Mitsunari anyways? Also....is that Crispen Freeman as our flying leper?! We only heard one line but....


also
*points and laughs and BlackKite*
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I don't really like what I've heard from Otani.
I expected him to sound more dark, deep, evil... NOT BRITISH.
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Another fan lost...

Good work Kobayashi and CAPCOM, now include an unplayable Matsunaga Hisahide, donīt add Todo Takatora and Sasaki Kojiro, turn Musashi, Kennyo, Ukita Hideie and Yamanaka Shikanosuke into NPCs, then screw up the weapon system and the "dramatic Story mode" isnīt as dramatic and deep as we thought...AND BANG!

You have a great start for the game in japan and even more shining hope for the english SB:SH release.

Gotta love the gametrailers comments:

Is this game for PS2?
Great...gay voices and a guy hair helmet.
Looked nice, untill I heard what it sounds like.
Is KOEI okay, with that cheap rip-off?
Cool...looks and sounds like crap. Canīt wait, to canīt wait.

Thatīs just the top of the iceberg...canīt wait to see what the sales will be like :dance:

But really...how many fans will turn their backs on it, thanks to the Crapcomayashi combination?

Oh well, letīs wait and hope for the best.

So Iīm save to assume, that there are no Famitsu scans this week? :huh:
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Seems like there is much trolldom already on those vids..some kids will never be satisfied. Screw em.

This game looks great, definitely buying the PS3 version when it's localized. I'll prob play the JP-Wii version first though.
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i look for fun gameplay in games, too... i think some people misunderstood me, i dont expect incredible stories out of every game, infact, alot of games where people say the story sucks, such as prototype, i find very interesting...

its just, voice acting i can understand, is part of the gameplay... to me, anyway... if they're screaming in gibberish, it REALLY kills alot of the fun for me... i spend more time wondering what the hell is going on, rather than focusing on enjoying the game...

i just hope the game doesnt sell badly... cause capcom likely wont give us another SB ever again if it has crappy sales...

really hope we'll get an expansion, too... i have to play as mitsuhide... sasuke looks pretty awesome, too. :D
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Another fan lost...

Good work Kobayashi and CAPCOM, now include an unplayable Matsunaga Hisahide, donīt add Todo Takatora and Sasaki Kojiro, turn Musashi, Kennyo, Ukita Hideie and Yamanaka Shikanosuke into NPCs, then screw up the weapon system and the "dramatic Story mode" isnīt as dramatic and deep as we thought...AND BANG!

You have a great start for the game in japan and even more shining hope for the english SB:SH release.

Gotta love the gametrailers comments:

Is this game for PS2?
Great...gay voices and a guy hair helmet.
Looked nice, untill I heard what it sounds like.
Is KOEI okay, with that cheap rip-off?
Cool...looks and sounds like crap. Canīt wait, to canīt wait.

Thatīs just the top of the iceberg...canīt wait to see what the sales will be like :dance:

But really...how many fans will turn their backs on it, thanks to the Crapcomayashi combination?

Oh well, letīs wait and hope for the best.

So Iīm save to assume, that there are no Famitsu scans this week? :huh:


Listen. First of all, I'm sad that BK's lost hope with Basara what with the name switch and all, and I can relate that something like this can be grounds to drive someone insane but you make it sound like such a slap in the face. Don't get me wrong BK, I understand where you are coming from on this but it just seems like such a minor thing to completely give up on the entire product.

DK, I know that you're hurting and that you wish ill upon Koba and all his actions and apparently that you've extended that distaste for Capcom as well, but honestly could you please stop with the sarcastic drone that seems to be brought up every time something even remotely bad occurs with the game and by extension our reactions to it? It just feels like every time we hit some kind of snag it's reason to dredge up everything that's been done wrong so far, and while I'm not saying it's not a valid oppinion and you have every right to feel burned we have already heard it all and the sarcasm lost it's sting a long time ago.

And frankly I really hope you're just being sarcastic with the additions about the Gametrailers comments because those are nearly always just angry, hateful annoying little spams that doesn't add anything to the discussion, the internet or any history of any tiny unimportant kind. Those don't represent the people who will actually purchase the game or even give it a second thought.

I'm sorry for being confrontational but I just can't stand all of this anymore. I'm tired of all the anger and annoyance. Buy the game, don't buy the game, wait for the expansion, give up on it all together, sit in a sulk and curse the world. I get it. It needs to happen. There's a need to vent. But enough already. Can't we all just move on?
Edited by Ouelis, Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:22 pm.
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Reading gametrailers comments is like reading youtube comments, and we ALL know how great those are right?


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welcome to Koei Warriors, where negative is king, and overreact is god (BK IS an admin, so yeah).
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Gametrailers comments are the lowest of the low, same with Youtube. :sick:

Plus, I really don't see the big issue with the names in Western order.

It's far more better than the whole DK names. :crazy:
Edited by Lord Mizer, Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:33 pm.
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