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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Enygma | Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:39 pm Post #5201 |
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God dammit. meh, that was to expect i suppose but still... i really wanted Japanese voices ![]() Edit: Something that made me a bit happy is the fact that Koba admits that Devil Kings was a failure in the interview. Edited by Enygma, Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:45 pm.
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| AdawgDaFAB | Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:45 pm Post #5202 |
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Han's Unifier
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I know how much the negativity for the game has brought down the board in recent months so I'll put this in a spoiler tag so everyone can skip over it. I just need to vent and get my frustration out. *Rant* Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:05 pm Post #5203 |
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Yeah, the google translation was on point. The other questions were not particularly interesting (they could have done so much better!), but anyway...important info: They talk about 15 playable characters and 35 maps. But that can't be the final number, can it...? Koba also said that "they didn't do anything on the PS3 that couldn't be reproducible on the Wii", basically admitting that they could have done more on the graphic-system engine department, but didn't because of the Wii's weaker capabilities. Well...some people could get pissed at this, but personally I don't really care.... |
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| BlackKite | Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:18 pm Post #5204 |
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Considering the multi-release for consoles with different disk space availability, this comes off as no surprise. ![]() (EDIT - I was referring to the lack of voice change option, anyway) Now I wonder how DK's reaction to this will be.
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| JHouser | Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:29 pm Post #5205 |
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Han's Unifier
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So basically the Wii and PS3 ports are pretty much identical.........that's what I got out it. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:34 pm Post #5206 |
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Spoiler: click to toggle EDIT: This is just if this is true. Really. It can´t be the full playable roster. It´s like they urinate all over the BASARA fans faces, with such a roster, after proudly boasting about all the new characters and that they´ll make up for the cuts and NPCifications. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:09 pm.
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| Kratos Aurion | Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:43 pm Post #5207 |
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MOAR
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Negativity is back...great. No dual audio? Oh well. The dub isn't so bad, just adjust to it. I've played SB2 onwards in JP myself, but I'm already adjusting from those few videos. Some of you only like the Japanese voices for the 'wow' factor in it anyways. Keep in mind this is the transitional game to the current consoles. Either the expansion or SB4 are going to be great, just look into the long-term with this guys. |
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| Balder | Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:02 pm Post #5208 |
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[expletive boat sounds]
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I'm trying to keep a positive stance on the game despite all of it's shortcomings but this last one scored a critical hit on little old me. I can deal with the cuts and whatnot, even the dub, but when that moron Koba blatantly states "you're getting a underdeveloped title because we want both versions to be the same", well, that one is just too much for me. It's not a question of console wars or anything, please don't think I'm taking it there, BUT it's a question of having some degree of consideration for consumers. A inferior port might have alienated Wii owners but I believe PS3 owners AND Basara fans are getting more alienated for having to stick to a mediocre product that everyone knows could and should have been much better, and that it will be charged full price, of course. I won't blame Capcom directly. Some of their other employees don't deserve it as they've shown they care for what their fans want but if this is how Koba plans on working in his every title, then they should seriously consider ditching him. Let him go act like some rockstar douchebag somewhere else! tl;dr - the game could have been a lot better but Koba didn't feel like working too much on it. I still care about the franchise and really want to give the series' another whirl, so I'm going to hope Kratos' prediction is true. So...no dual audio, uh? Hooray for region-freeness, I guess... Edited by Balder, Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:23 pm.
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:12 pm Post #5209 |
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Spoiler: click to toggle This really starts to remind me of the failure called King of Fighters XII. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:14 pm.
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| Enygma | Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:50 pm Post #5210 |
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15... 15 characters you say... huh... excuse me while i go outside for a second. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| JHouser | Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:55 pm Post #5211 |
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Han's Unifier
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The negativity in the thread has finally infiltrated me. I'm sorry..........I am NOT happy that the PS3 and Wii ports will be identical in features and content. Edited by JHouser, Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:55 pm.
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| Kratos Aurion | Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:20 pm Post #5212 |
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They're not entirely identical. Wii version doesn't get online co-op. Who knows, other things might be different as well. It's obvious now Koba doesn't say things that are entirely truthful, so don't jump to conclusions guys.
Edited by Kratos Aurion, Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:21 pm.
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| JHouser | Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:29 pm Post #5213 |
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I guess I can wait...........I still have it pre-ordered. |
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| Ouelis | Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:31 pm Post #5214 |
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Calm down Enygma. While I agree that it's sad that there won't be a dual audio option, I don't believe for a second that 15 PC's are the final tally. That just doesn't add up. I don't want to point fingers here, put skimming through the article it's obvious that whoever was responsible for it isn't really as plugged in as one would have hoped. Sure, they specifically state 15 characters as the number, but it's never clarified that it's all the PC's. And after the long long LONG process of slowly trickling news over the last couple of months I doubt that such information would just be causally dropped. I'm guessing that they were told 15 characters because that's the amount that has been revealed so far and Koba didn't want to give anything away. Besides, the only information stated from the actual gameplay was the demo that had the three levels we've seen in the videos. Also, since we haven't heard the 35 maps thing before, doesn't that seem like too many for the amount of characters we have now? Even if we were to count a map for every character, that's still only 25, and I really doubt that there's both a map for Kotaro AND Hojo for example. So my tip is to put down the cyanide and take a deep breath. The dual audio thing may very well be true but I don't believe the 15 characters thing at all. PS: Gotta say though, some of the parts of the article is just hilarious. Like the whole Buffalo thing when talking about Mikatagahara. PSS: The questions are just...dumb. "Why does Ieyasu fight with his bare fists when he's a samurai?" Really?
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| BlackKite | Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:43 pm Post #5215 |
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Eh, if anything, I still believe that there will be 19 playable characters here. If the Japanese guys' observation is correct, looking at how Kojuuro's file number is chara_20 and he's the first NPC listed, so the last playable character should be #19.
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| FatalxInnocence | Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:43 pm Post #5216 |
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The English voices shown in the trailers are actually pretty damn good compared to most games of this genre. Let's hope they get all the voices right. It all usually fails with the females though, please don't destroy Oichi </3 They'll get Tsuruhime right, all characters of her type usually sound spot on to me. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:20 pm Post #5217 |
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As I said, those things, are just for the case the 15 characters thing is true. 19 might not be the hell of a number, we should expect from a game like this, but 4 characters more are 4 characters more. And if we take a look at SFIV, it too, had 19 characters.(as far as I remember) As long as Matsunaga Hisahide is playable, all is fine. Really. The expectations are now at the bottom low, so this is the only condition. No Todo Takatora, not even Ukita Hideie, even though that one is a must for a Sekigahara themed game. Even if this game has only 30 characters (over a third unplayable of course) and that´s probably the amount playable in the expansion...make...him...playable. Seriously. EDIT: It can´t be that the Amago rep. is an NPC too...there gotta be at least 19 playable characters...though I wonder what happens to the rest of the veterans? Zabii? Itsuki? Kennyo? Musashi? Are those the playables we should look forward too? Or do you think they might cut Musashi or just make a "Shingen" and just don´t add some of them
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| Ouelis | Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:35 pm Post #5218 |
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Were I to hazard a guess, I'd say that Hisahide and Itsuki has the greatest chances of returning as PC's of the remaining veterans. Hisahide for obvious reasons, and Itsuki just because we need more females, and she strikes me as the kind of character that would be included, for better or for worse. I honestly feel that Musashi won't be making a return this time around. And frankly, I don't care too much. Why does everyone want him back so much? I can understand the whole "the greatest samurai swordsman to ever live" thing and he's an interesting character but if I were to pick the remaining 4 PC's myself(if that's how many's left), I'd go with Hisahide, Todo, Ukita and Shikanosuke. |
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| Enygma | Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:32 pm Post #5219 |
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ok, you're right. lets not get to hasty. There is still 3 months left so they have time to add some more. Hopefully. Hmm, the characters i would most like to see returning would be Hisahide, Musashi (I just love his fighting style so much) and probably... itsuki
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| Claus | Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:42 pm Post #5220 |
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Oh god, that wretched 'thing' that they try to pass off as a little girl called Itsuki, better not come back. I hope she was strolling around honnoji and got burn by hellfire. >.< We already have Tsuru, please don't let Itsuki make the cut. No dual audio doesn't bother me that much, the voices are good, so I don't NEED it, I still want it. 19 characters is believable, but a pretty wimpy number. I have no clue why NPCs are considered as characters to Kobayashi, they're just wastes. So, if there is only four left, then I have to go with the Hisahide, Todo, Ukita and Shikanosuke lineup, even though I would like to see one more playable female make it in. Sorry for complaining, but the amount of NPCs is just ridiculous, it really just baffles me how the Basara team could think this logical, and let Kobayashi do this. I'm sick of it, really, How can you expect a game to sell well if one of the main bad points being "there are lots of characters, you just can't play them"? Whatever, this horse has been beaten to death enough. -__- |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:58 pm Post #5221 |
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come on now koba only 4 more this cant be didnt he say alot of new females we have only gotten 2 new chicks and if this is true we better get a load more in the expansion well not really a load but atleast 5 new in the expansion. well if it is only 4 more i agree with the hisahide,todo,ukita,and shikanosuke lineup that would be fine |
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| Eni | Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:01 pm Post #5222 |
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So like, where did Kobayashi promise Hisahide? But i agree with the amount of playable characters, and the amount of NPCs. Its even lower than the amount of DW6 characters with stories, thats just weird. Hope Takatora becomes playable. Oh and no JP voice option? Sad cause they have some seiyus i like, but im liking the EN voices anyways, so no lose here. |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:03 pm Post #5223 |
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Guys on Yukimura's dubbing, you gotta remember, Bosche isn't so serious for Yukimura. Shingen, is very sick, Yukimura knows he's gonna die soon, and it is most important goal in life to protect his legacy. So, why would he be going OYAKATA-SAMA as much as he used to? Why would he do stupid things? He might shout at the end of the battle, but other than that, I don't see why. MASAMUNE IS FRICKIN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| The_juggalo-warrior | Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:08 pm Post #5224 |
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Hey guys I found the English trailer for Basara Samurai Heroes ^^! CHECK IT! |
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| Ouelis | Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:08 pm Post #5225 |
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Well it hasn't been stated, but as I understand it Hisahide was kept an NPC in Battle Heroes because Koba thought he was too big to make his debut in a spin-off. Since he was introduced in SB2H he's already fullfilled his time as NPC and what makes more sense then having Hisahide making his PC debut in SB3? That's basically what we have to go on at this stage. Not a solid ground sure, but I think the chances are high enough to have hope. |
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