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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,322 Views)
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ROLF, you are right about the battle of Sekigahara. They really need to go all out on the battle. :) It's seems that Koei's SW3 and Capcom's SB3 are getting close right now. ;) Anyway I guess we have to wait until the TGS for real information, which is in mid-September. ;)
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I took a better look at the scans, and here's what I missed yesterday.

Mitsunari is filled with feelings of revenge for Ieyasu because he was the one to crush the Toyotomi after they conquered the country and started aiming for the world.

In the interview, they say that they tried to be more attentive to history this time. And that (differently from the past games) there are fixed facts in everyone's stories...Nobunaga and Hideyoshi have been taken down, and this truth reflects itself on many other characters' thoughts and actions. (Don't pull this crap, Kobayashi....)


Ieyasu's keyword is "bonds". With the strength of bonding, he plans to pacificate the country and rule it.

Mitsunari wants revenge because Ieyasu took away the man he respected and admired, Hideyoshi. He's the "yang" to Ieyasu's "ying". He's supposed to convey a sense of sharpness...an angel dyed in black. He's SUPPOSEDLY the fastest character in the series.


Mitsunari is said to inflict Masamune his first great loss, and make him learn fully the meaning of defeat.

Yukimura changed too, as now he is no more a subordinate, but a commander, with all the responsibilities and problems that such a position provides. They say he questions himself and is troubled (and grows) like never before.

In Basara 3 Mitsunari, Masamune, Ieyasu and Yukimura interact in a "cross" (sic) fashion, but they're just a small group among the characters.

Producer (?) Yamamoto says "there are really a whole lot of new chars, yeah"


Mitsunari's quote "I'll never forgive you...I'll never EVER forgive you!!!"

He's practically obsessed with Ieyasu, and nothing else. Not even the country holds any value to him...(way to follow in Hideyoshi's footsteps...)


Masamune's quote:

"I crashed on the ground? No, (eng), I just flew down, you know."


(interview text too blurry...)



That's about it...Famitsu comes out tomorrow, right? I'll try and check it out when I go to work...

Anyway, next week we'll see Tadakatsu and Yoshitsugu (?). I wonder what kinda change he went through...

Anyway, Mitsunari's a kind of a letdown, honestly...being all about revenge and nothing else limits him severely...

But the fact that they said clearly that Nobunaga and Hideyoshi are gone...is a scary concept....
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Err, it's a very slim chance that the next info batch with Hondam & co. will be out next week. Probably next month.

And it comes to that, eh. I also noted out that the interview also explains about the teaser site and those crossing outs.
1560 x1: Imagawa Yoshimoto died at Okehazama
1573 x1: Azai Nagamasa died at Odani Castle
1582 x4: Nobunaga, Nou and Ranmaru died at Honnouji and Mitsuhide died at Yamazaki
And it's part of the storyline background.

Yep, it causes a great stir in 2ch, but as long as Capcom is going to keep the Conquest mode which is in the series ever since the first game, I'm going to keep my positive thinking that the non-related characters are still playable there and I won't give up my hopes yet.
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:crazy: They better not remove those characters or I'm gonna rage! (especially since Nobunaga is my favorite character!) I just hope they'll be at the least playable in the all the other modes. :(
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:mellow:

So for the sake of having a re-vamped Ieyasu, we´ll sacrifice a lot of replay value(since playing through all the storys was really fun and took a lot of time) and character growth for older characters.

I WANT TO HEAR NOBUNAGA´S SICK LAUGH BEFORE YOU FIGHT HIM IN HIS BURNING TEMPLE...oh man.

Wait. Waaaaaaaait. Does that mean...that since Hisahide wasn´t a part of Sekigahara and belonged to the Nobunaga era...won´t...get...after two games...he´ll get no story mode?

Nah, it can´t be. There are still something like gaiden storys. There has to be. Or maybe a "before" scenario... :mellow:

Yep, it causes a great stir in 2ch, but as long as Capcom is going to keep the Conquest mode which is in the series ever since the first game, I'm going to keep my positive thinking that the non-related characters are still playable there and I won't give up my hopes yet.

Playing through the conquer mode...is lame. Just playing a bunch of random stages, without any character growth, without any special moments that let you understand the characters more and makes them more lovable...

Even though Nobunaga just wants to conquer the world, he has some quite interesting dialogues, the same goes for Hideyoshi´s deep thoughts(I thought he was the same as Nobunaga, but he actually wanted to make japan a better place and hated Nobunaga for his simple thoughts of desctruction...which I wouldn´t know without the dialogues and cutscenes)...and no more Akechi Mitsuhide mind play talks?(Don't pull this crap, Kobayashi....)

If Matsunaga Hisahide doesn´t get a story mode, I´ll resist buying the game.

Call me an idiot for doing so. But I´ve waited to finally be able to play some badass story with badass villain cutscenes to finally show us more about his character, mind and thoughts.
Just because I can burn some random enemys with him...it´s not enough for me.
It´s like Chili without spice. You´ll be filled, but you won´t enjoy it. It just misses it´s taste. :(


Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:37 pm.
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Heyyy there I'm new here but I'm all about Basara so I will just share my thoughs :D

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Yukimura changed too, as now he is no more a subordinate, but a commander, with all the responsibilities and problems that such a position provides. They say he questions himself and is troubled (and grows) like never before.


Well duh!I knew he will feel weird without Oyakata-sama around and no one punching his face anymore.Actually fact that he's not punched anymore had been his biggest punch he received ever ahaha

And I'm very very very curious if they are going to put anyone from 'Sanada 10 Braves' apart from Sasuke into game

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also this quote seems less polite than Yukimura usualy spoke with (ancient Keigo) so it means he may be more snappy now!

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Mitsunari's quote "I'll never forgive you...I'll never EVER forgive you!!!"


Boy,this guy got issues.Now I see him in fangirl eyes being uke in pairing Toku/Mitsu and shouting I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU for aparent reasons.

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Masamune's quote:

"I crashed on the ground? No, (eng), I just flew down, you know."


Masamune propably calmed down after he had his ass kicked.Also I think Yukimura will be less friendly about him as in rl he kicked his ass hard during Yukimura's raid.
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Let's try to be positive, here...

SB2 also often cites that 'Nobunaga dies by Mitsuhide's hand'. But POOF! He's still alive!
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Please let there be gaiden stories, oh please.....

There is still a lot of work to be done on the game, they could pull it off. i dont want to play the characters in only conquest mode.

and if mitsunari is the fastest character, that means he is faster than Fuuma Kotaro!!! :o
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Maybe a plot twist happens and turns out that Nobunaga is still alive (I mean Bison always seems to come back in almost every SF games, and they have the same voice XD so through the power of same-voice thingy, he'll come back :ph43r: )
Edited by Crimsondramon, Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:46 pm.
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:11 pm
1560 x1: Imagawa Yoshimoto died at Okehazama
1573 x1: Azai Nagamasa died at Odani Castle
Excuse me while I sob uncontrollably somewhere else now.

On a different note, notice that they didn't list Oichi in there. That totally means she's going to be playable alongside Katsuie Shibata in SB3.
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Maybe a plot twist happens and turns out that Nobunaga is still alive (I mean Bison always seems to come back in almost every SF games, and they have the same voice XD so through the power of same-voice thingy, he'll come back :ph43r: )
by the power of ultimate seiyuu-god Norio Wakamoto! xD
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No way can they cut Nobunaga or Nagamasa and Hideyoshi for that matter (after 1 game? :rolleyes: ). I could accept Yoshimoto, Kenyo, Zabii, Itsuki etc. But come on we are talking about Nobunaga here, he is the Demon King, the everlasting bad dude of SB!! And there is sooo much left to do with Hideyoshi, we never even got to fully explore the whole Hideyoshi/Keiji/Nene subplot.... The prospect of an SB without the Oda, Akechi, Toyotomi, Azai, Uesugi, Takeda and Hojo is almost unthinkable.

And DK I'm with you, we better get playable Matsunaga Hisahide, more than anything else that was the thing I was most looking forward to in SB3, now your telling me he might not even be in it?! :(
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Great, the negativity starts spreading here already faster than I thought. *facepalm*
But then again we have been waiting for this sequel for years so that's kinda inevitable. -_-

Anyway for now, I'm wondering with Famitsu getting forwarded to Thursday will game site updates also follow suit.

Oh, and welcome to TaiCat. Hope you enjoy your time here. :)
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 pm
Great, the negativity starts spreading here already faster than I thought. *facepalm*
But then again we have been waiting for this sequel for years so that's kinda inevitable. -_-

Anyway for now, I'm wondering with Famitsu getting forwarded to Thursday will game site updates also follow suit.

Oh, and welcome to TaiCat. Hope you enjoy your time here. :)
What days are Famitsu again? It's all mixed up now. :mellow:
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 pm
Great, the negativity starts spreading here already faster than I thought. *facepalm*
But then again we have been waiting for this sequel for years so that's kinda inevitable. -_-

Anyway for now, I'm wondering with Famitsu getting forwarded to Thursday will game site updates also follow suit.

Oh, and welcome to TaiCat. Hope you enjoy your time here. :)
Negativity?

I would call it dissapointment. After giving us so much greatness...something like this happens. Of course that´s a letdown.

It´s like a beautiful girl kissing you and after it, giving you a kick in the nuts. :mellow:

I guess TaiCat will not enjoy his time in this forum untill it´s confirmed, that we won´t have a Yukimura/Masamune main story again.
Nobunaga/Mitsuhide/Hideyoshi/Nouhime/Ranmaru/Nagamasa/Yoshimito...and all the others deserve a story. It wouldn´t make sense having an emontionless GUNDAM with NO character development, having a story and all those characters don´t.
(though I like Tadakatsu, but he can´t talk dammnit. He doesn´t show expressions dammnit. He doesn´t have character development. Why have a story?)

I´m on a "happy strike".

Even if the gameplay is so super-awesome and all the new characters are first second popular icons, I won´t be happy till I hear, "All the old characters are back, with their own story". :angry:

EDIT: Still welcome to the board, TaiCat :)

*Can´t hold up the smile and goes dissapointed into his sob corner and waits for the sentence he wants to hear, to appear*
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:48 pm.
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:35 pm
Let's try to be positive, here...

SB2 also often cites that 'Nobunaga dies by Mitsuhide's hand'. But POOF! He's still alive!
I second this notion.

I mean, let's be honest, I don't think there's too much reason to support for the reason for characters to be completely cut. If nothing else, Capcom knows that a number of characters had good sized followinigs (re: at least Nobunaga, Hideyoshi and Hanbei) that cutting them out would be something that would be the irk of MANY fanboys and fangirls. And there's just something to be said about removing content that they already went through the trouble of establishing and crafting for sequels.

So, I'm thinking that, at worst, some characters may be relegated to "Free/Conquer Mode". That much I could foresee for the likes of Hojo and Kennyo, at the least.

But at best, I'm thinking that, even in regards of supposed "certain facts" being established, there still will likely be a means for those older characters to have their own storylines, even if its more along the lines of "What If...?", that diverges from the original storyline.

And if nothing else, because a number of these characters are obviously important to numerous characters' storylines (Shingen, Hideyoshi, Nobunaga, Mitsuhide), THEY have to be present. I mean, how will Mitsunari have a good reason to fight against Ieyasu, if Ieyasu didn't have a good sized fight with him in the first place. Same goes for Yukimura and Shingen, etc...


Also...speaking of conquer mode...I honestly wouldn't mind if it was fixed up in some ways. One of the few things I thought SBBH did well was that they changed Conquer/Daibutokai modes around, such that the Conquer Mode became a showcase for you to play as different characters within a "team", had a sort of original storyline all of its own, finish off many objectives, and just made the overall package much more appealing than in the 2.5 console SB2 games. Could we get more than that, as opposed to having to struggle through the same thing like 40+ times...?
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:38 pm
And also Rob Lucci(which should not only make me happy right, MP :sly: ) from One Piece.

He knows how to speak a suffering man who´s out for revenge and justice. ^_^
Oh yes,one of the reasons I chose Seki Tomokazu in the 'Ideas for future BASARA games' thread was because he did superbly with Mr.Lucci's voice :)

Regarding the whole 'Character removing?' issue,I don't really know how to feel.I'm not 'Slit-My-Wrists' depressed about it and i'm not even dissapointed by it,as it hasn't even been confirmed characters are getting removed.
I mean,Capcom must have realised that DW6 bombed because of all its setbacks and I doubt they want to follow the same path as Koei.

I guess i'm feeling...suspicious?
Yeah,Suspicious of Capcoms actions.
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HNB you saved the day.

Even though I´m still on a happy strike, unless I see (I´ve reduced it to) "Matsunaga Hisahide has a story-mode"

These may be fixed facts, but only in terms of Sekigahara. In the past BASARA games, you didn´t know if some of the other characters were allready dead. But now...
...if for example you play Nobunaga´s story and you´ve killed Yoshimoto, some characters may mention it in his story. If you play for example Yukimura´s story some characters may mention Akech´s betrayal. So some certain and important events/battles may be played in one characters story or are going to happen, but in another ones story it´s allready the past.

Best example would be: In Takenaka Hanbei´s story Hideyoshi is alive since Ieyasu hasn´t rebelled yet, but in Mitsunari´s story Ieyasu allready defeated and killed Hideyoshi.

It´s not about characters not being in the game, that´s impossible. I mean they are not KOEI. They won´t throw away characters that were only playable for one game, one REAL game(Nagamasa for example)

But it´s about the fact, that if they finally have some timeline in the story, the characters storys could now be even more dramatic, since battles, victorys, defeats and deaths of our BASARA characters would be ackowledged by other characters. It could be deeper and more emontional, now allmost everyone could have a serious story.
So everyone should get an actual story. No free mode ditched characters. Tsss...

Just imagine having played Nobunaga´s story, expecting the ending vid that normally occurs where you see him laughing and the world in his eyes....
But instead, get to see him sitting in his castle, drinking his skull sake, laughing saying something about undefeatable darkness and suddenly you hear death screams, fires breaking out and he stands up, looks out of the window and says:"Miiiiits-uuuuu---hiiii---deeee"
And then the camera zooms in on Mitsuhide and he points at Nobunaga and says something like "Let´s enjoy this Nobunaga-kou." Then he turns around to his army (and maybe to his own retainer) and says with a sick grin: "The enemy is at Honnō-ji"

That´s were Nobunaga´s Story ends. Then you play Mitsuhide´s story, have some battles similiar to Nobunaga´s story, some own stages were you see his desire growing to betray Nobunaga and the end stage is Honnō-ji. And then it goes on and on from that point. Some storys braching into other directions and not all the storys may connect at first, but in the end, it ends in the battle between Ieyasu and Mitsunari, the last battle over Japan.

It´s a story like in real life. You can only live your one life. But since this is a game, you can experience the lifes and battles of all the characters of the BASARA universe. And since they´ve all lived, fought and died in different times, some may live longer, some may allready be dead, but they all had their part in this great story, the Sengoku period of three rulers trying to unify Japan.

So thanks to my great long explanation that trys to bring back the positive hype and feelings for BK´s sake ;) , we will forget the "fixed facts" thing, take it as it is and wait. Characters will be there and storys too.

P.S. I´m still on a happy strike.

Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:54 pm.
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I like the sound of that story mode interpetation, "to find out what happens to Nobunaga, play Mitsuhide's story" :o that would be, not only epic, but suspenseful as you wait and play to see Nobunaga's fate.

Though i think that characters like musashi, Kennyo, and Ujimasa wont have a story, and its no big deal for me about those characters, i dont even like them.

It would be upsetting if anyone else didn't have a story mode.

Unless im forgetting some unimportant character that i dont really like....

oh yeah; Yoshimoto.

:XD
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All this talk gets me thinking. My interpretation of that "established history thing" is more along the lines of having only one story mode with ~50 stages. Something like:

Battle 1: Okehazama (play as Oda side, any Oda officer you've unlocked; after you complete the stage you can go back and play as the Imagawa side)
Battle 2: Kawanakajima (Play as either side, any character you've unlocked)
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Battle ?: Anegawa (play as Oda side, gives you a cutscene where Nagamasa dies. Go back and play as either side later)
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Battle??: Honnoji (Play as Akechi side, gives you a cutscene where Nobunaga dies, go back and play as either side later)
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Battle Final: Sekigahara (Play as either side, gives you "conquered Japan" cutscene at the end)


AFAIK this doesn't contradict any established information. If it does then let me know. Unfortunately, if it was anything like this it probably wouldn't give you the option of taking sides, it'd probably be set in stone or affected by choices made in earlier stages or something.

Of course, some of the ideas stated a few pages back seem pretty plausible as well. Guess we'll see soon.
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I think everyone may be overreacting on character cuts? All the characters are part of one big story, so for the later tales and sekigahara to happen then that means Nobunaga and Co. have to be in to set things up for the later half of the story.

And I honestly don't think there's any way they would cut all of those characters, especially Nobunaga and MItsuhide. Doesn't Mitsu always rank very high on the fan polls? And Nobunaga was just as iconic with the start of the series as Masamune and Yukimura were. No way are they all going.
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HNB you saved the day.

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So thanks to my great long explanation that trys to bring back the positive hype and feelings for BK´s sake ;) , we will forget the "fixed facts" thing, take it as it is and wait. Characters will be there and storys too.

P.S. I´m still on a happy strike.

Well, I try. :hehe: :hehe:

Any way, that's an interesting idea, what you're proposing. But I dunno, part of me thinks that's a bit too much to try and coordinate for Capcom's storytellers. And even if there was an attempt to try, the closest thing we may get may be through a DW/Orochi-esque "Faction Mode" type of story-line (which I really hate to see used, unless it's in the case of what I propose above).

But in any case, I'm still thinking that the whole "Established Facts" thing is going to be used very loosely, no matter how much Kobyashi claims that they're going to try and stick "closer to the source material". Remember this IS BASARA, we're talking about. People might start getting concerned, if Kobyashi and crew try to make things too "serious/canonical" for its own good. :XD

What I'm thinking is, there are going to be some unalterable things that are going to be established about the storyline, not unlike how things were done in past games. In past games, we saw Nobunaga's rise and fall, a bit of Hideyoshi's beginnings and rise, and also the largely shared history that permeates his own back story, as well as those of Bei-bei's and KG's. Those things were both a part of the game's world, and necessary to understand the overall scheme of things (if you cared that much about the BASARA series' plot that much :hehe:).

But as we know, beyond that, everything was free to flow as it will in each character's separate "BASARA-verse". And I wouldn't be surprised if such was going to occur here, as well.

For example....I foresee that some how, things will just work out such that Yukimura (in his own storyline), is going to find a way to take Ieyasu, Tadakatsu, and the rest of the applicable Tokugawa bunch to school, JUST so that he can get that "Final Showdown" with Masamune (again).

In his storyline, sure, Shingen may be dead and gone by 1600. But all bets may be off by the time you may actually get to play as Shingen himself, where things may work out quite differently for that guy, considering that "The Fool of Owari" is gone, or etc. Same could be said for other applicable characters. Like say, what if Mitsuhide was able to fight off the Toyotomi at Yamazaki (after killing off Nobunaga-kou and his crew), and continue his lil "rampage" up to 1600, where-in Mitsunari may have more reason to despise HIM, instead of Ieyasu (due to events playing out differently?). Likewise for pretty much any other character you could name, including Hideyoshi (he could have lived after his defeat at Ieyasu's hands, and WANTS VENGEANCE!!!!). :hehe:

And that, in a nutshell, is what I'm thinking is going to occur. Yes, there are going to be some established hallmarks by SB3's era in the BASARA-verse, but each character may still get to experience each event in his/her own way, or maybe changed things entirely for their storyline.

If they do something like that, I would see no reason to be displeased, and I would think that would go likewise for everyone else.


Then there's my final point that I could make about this "issue". The anime. Let's not forget about that! The first season was largely a success, and people are already biting at the bit to see what the second season has in store (and for Americans, they get their own chance to know BASARA on their own terms, through Funimation).

What does this have to do with anything? Well, with the 1st season anime came a whole new legion of converts to the glory that is BASARA. Some may join the party now, or may be willing to wait until SB3. The same could be said for when the second season airs.

With that much said, fans, especially new ones, are likely going to have different expectations when it comes to picking up a game for the first time, especially if SB3 is their first game. What would be the end result if, a newcomer picking up SB3, goes to play the game, but then finds out that they can't play as the "wicked-cool" Nobunaga or his bunch, Hideyoshi and his bunch, Shingen, Kenshin and etc, after just seeing them doing great things on the cartoon show? They would probably feel cheated, that's what.

So, there lies my final reason: Marketing. The anime has to be as much of a "salesperson" for BASARA's cause as any other part of the marketing blitz that Capcom could unleash for the series. And a rule of thumb is, you don't do well as a salesperson, if there's anything about you that could be construed as "False Advertising", or otherwise being unable to live up to what you're trying to sell. That's just foolish, and Capcom has to acknowledge such a thing.

If nothing else, I would like to think that Street Fighter 3 taught them a SOLID lesson in what happens, if you try to toy with the hearts of fans too much for their own good... :D
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Well, Musashi would have his story. Even though it wouldn´t directly have a main impact on the Sekigahara thing, he could still be there.

He takes part in Sekigahara(in the Musashi punk thing we are used of him, saying no one can defeat, come at him, etc) like in history and lose. This of course has a huge impact on him since he claims to be undefeatable.

After that he tries to escape but runs into a warrior named Sasaki Kojiro.
He loses again, since he´s not in high spirits after the Sekigahara defeat.
(Depends on personality of Kojiro) He tells him something and says that one day they shall have a duel again.

He doesn´t understand the words of of Kojiro and goes around encountering some BASARA character. This encounter let´s him think he realized the words and he tries to seek out Kojiro again.

After thinking about how he would now defeat Kojiro, he suddenly meets someone he fought in the battle and lost. Thinking he now has found a way to be the best again, he challenges that BASARA character, thinking now it´s his time for revenge...but loses again. And that´s when he really realizes what Kojiro wanted to say. Musashi now realizes that the way he was going now, isn´t the way meant for him.

Well and you allready know the final battle. But since I don´t know the personality of Kojiro I can´t tell the outcome yet. It could be surprising. Maybe Musashi losing again, winning, draw, killing Kojiro, letting him live. I´ll wait and see.

Ujimasa could as well have a story. I don´t want to go into details, but it´s about alliances, betrayal and a final last heroic stance, were he fights for the honor of his ancestors and we finally get some respect for the old strong warrior.
But of course it ends with the downfall of the Hojo. After that we could see Fuuma Kotaro taking on another road: The road of revenge. Maybe he finally has realized some sense of loyalty, he´s out for Hideyoshi´s head since he was the one who besieged Odawara and brought the end.
It would be cool in one way: Just imagine if Hanzo´s in the game and both of them join forces to take down Hideyoshi in Ieyasu´s rebellion :OMG:

And I even have a good story for Kennyo.

Kennyo starts of as a normal monk(okay, normal, he allready does the body-bulding) but without all his money. He shows traits of money-obsession, but he still cares for being a monk and helping people.

After defeating an army that brings suffering to villagers, they reward him for his heroic deeds. He stays in the town, as if he knew it would be attacked again. After again saving the day, he has some "muscle fans" and he gets his hands on the treasures of the defeated army.

He now has gain his lust for money and luxury having gotten such a big treasure and now wants to build up a stronghold.
He plans to build his own "temple", but the place he wants to build his "temple" on is occupied by again an army. He fights them drives them away. He builds the Honnoji temple(hey I know that´s not history, but afterall it´s BASARA)

Now having his own force, stronghold and lots of money he gets drunk in his success and opposes: Oda Nobunaga.

First a battle against Nouhime and Ranmaru and he wins this, since he catches them off-guard.

Now facing Akechi Mitsuhide, an enemy more than worthy, he now gets to his limits and has to retreat.

Realizing that money can´t solve everything and that he lost his original way...but we all know it´s allready too late. He took the wrath of the Demon King on him. After that, Nobunaga attacks his temple and...well...

So you see even such "minor" characters can still have some parts in this (hi)story, even though they aren´t important roles they play their part and have their story.

Those are made up storys by me and they may not be actually good, but you get what I mean: Combine BASARA with history and you have lots of possiblities to make a good story for each character, which, as they said, goes more into the traits of the characters and shows us new sides of them.

EDIT:

Or what HNB said and Famitsu was just giving us some information which was interpreted wrong. It could mean that characters who play in the Sekigahara time have fixed facts in their mind, as Akechi´s betrayal and Hideyoshi´s death.

Anyway, we allready have a lot of good theorys that prevent a fraction based/for everyone story.

Since they´ve kept it very BASARA like till now, I hope that goes for the storys too. But anyway, we wouldn´t be able to change it.

"Matsunaga Hisahide has a story mode." All I want to hear.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:04 pm.
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I like that it will be more historical. ^_^ And I think now, Nene deff has a good shot of being a playable character in SB3!

I would'nt want them to take out Nobonaga Oda, or Hideyoshi just because ''there gone''.Maybe they will add in Ginchiyo too.

I would love to see Sengoku Basara com over to America, and just be Sengoku Basara! :)

You think they'll have new character deisgns or no?
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Don't be ridiculous - they'll never cut out old characters. Why would they? It would hardly be any effort to include them, and there would be massive disappointment if they DON'T include them. Pretty simple equation to me.

I mean look at the SW series - they've never really cut out characters either. Goemon is the only one I can think off but all other characters have returned in some guise or another.

And paying more attention to history? Please. It's Sengoku Basara! Masamune speaks English! Tadakatsu is a giant robot! And so on.
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