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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,131 Views)
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Thats weird, I didn't notice any ads and I watched the 4 SB vids on there (the new one, 2 old ones, and one with I guess some seiyuu talking).

Anyways are the Amago/Amako's battle flag white with two black rectangles at the top? If so then both Shimazu and Oichi is fighting them in the video. Are they like the Uesugi (Kanji on one side and the Uesugi crest on the other side) who have multiple crests / battle flag designs, because if not then I thought this was their crest:
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Also, speaking of who is fighting who, I got bored and decided to look for more things like Zabii's troops and the apparent Amago flag. I noticed all the characters are fighting the same group of opponents (most likely in the same stages) each time so here is a list I made:

Ieyasu - Saika stage
Mitsunari - Uesugi stage
Kanbei - Hojo stage (Probably Odawara Castle)
Maggie - Kono stage
Tsuru - Takeda stage (Looks like the Ueda Castle stage shown in previous videos)
Otani - Shimazu stage
Masamune - Mogami stage
Yukimura - Kobayakawa stage
Keiji - Zabii stage
Aniki - Mori stage
Motonari - Maeda stage
Yoshihiro - Amago? stage
Hondam - Date stage
Kotaro - Tokugawa stage
Oichi - Amago? stage

I guess these are just random opponents because I don't see why Ieyasu would be fighting the Saika, Hondam attacking the Date, or Kotaro fighting the Tokugawa when they are all supposed to be on the Eastern side. Same goes for Yukimura and Kobayakawa.



Just for kicks I did the same thing for the pictures showing the character's skills and BASARA on the website:

Ieyasu - Takeda
Mitsunari - Tokugawa
Masamune - Takeda
Yukimura - Mori
Otani - Uesugi
Tadakatsu - Saika
Aniki - Mori
Motonari - Chosokabe
Maggie - Uesugi
Keiji - Saika
Kanbei - Shimazu
Yoshihiro - Kuroda
Tsuru - Mori
Oichi - Kobayakawa
Kotaro - Mogami

Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:07 am.
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Not speaking of the brand new gameplay vid, but...

Who would voice other characters in English version?

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Well, I'm certainly happy with today's catch. The trailer was good, although I would have liked to see some more action from Kurokan(although I gotta say that the rolling move was fantastic. Might not be the most useful skill, but who cares?) it was still great to see some time in the spotlight for all of the characters. Couple of notes;

1. Can somebody shed some light for me who Motonari is fighting against in the trailer? I don't really recognize the emblem. EDIT: Is it really Tokugawa? It doesn't look like their emblem.

2. Is Yoshihiro really fighting the Amako? I can't really make it out.

In any case, this confirms that Zabi will be returning. That being said, I sincerely doubt that it'll be as a PC. And what with the Amako representative still at large I think it's obvious to assume that the 15 PC/10 NPC roster idea that's been taking up space the last couple of days is not, I repeat, NOT true. So, even if it's only more NPC's there's still more to come.

As has already been stated, I think that 19-20 PC's will be final number. So it ain't over yet.

PS: LOVED Yoshiaki's screens. Especially the glowing eyes of doom and the whole body "Jump-triangle" move.
Edited by Ouelis, Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:20 am.
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Well, I'm certainly happy with today's catch. The trailer was good, although I would have liked to see some more action from Kurokan(although I gotta say that the rolling move was fantastic. Might not be the most useful skill, but who cares?) it was still great to see some time in the spotlight for all of the characters. Couple of notes;

1. Can somebody shed some light for me who Motonari is fighting against in the trailer? I don't really recognize the emblem. EDIT: Is it really Tokugawa? It doesn't look like their emblem.

2. Is Yoshihiro really fighting the Amako? I can't really make it out.

In any case, this confirms that Zabi will be returning. That being said, I sincerely doubt that it'll be as a PC. And what with the Amako representative still at large I think it's obvious to assume that the 15 PC/10 NPC roster idea that's been taking up space the last couple of days is not, I repeat, NOT true. So, even if it's only more NPC's there's still more to come.

As has already been stated, I think that 19-20 PC's will be final number. So it ain't over yet.

PS: LOVED Yoshiaki's screens. Especially the glowing eyes of doom and the whole body "Jump-triangle" move.
Doesn't Motinari fight against Oichi.
It's the Oda emblem right?

Edit: Ok i was horribly wrong.
It's the Maeda crest.
Edited by Enygma, Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:54 am.
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Is that the Nabeshima or the Otomo clan crest I see in red on the blue flags in the Keiji vs Zabii troops part of the video?

Here is the clearest picture I was able to get of it:
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If I am right, then maybe Nabeshima Naoshige or Otomo Sorin could be in the game and either be followers of Zabii (didn't Sorin get converted by Francis Xavier?) or in that stage they could be playing a role similar to Sunday Mori and Chesto Shimazu ^___^.


Also can anyone make out the red and blue crest on the red flags in Shimazu's part or the green crest on the yellow flags in the Oichi part?

Sorry I was wrong Ouelis, I looked at the vid again, in 720p this time, and it looks like the Maeda crest in Motonari's parts.
Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:38 am.
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That trailer makes me think there won't be any more reveals anyway :/ . Hope there is, has to be, right?
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I haven't looked at the video yet, but...ZABIIIIIII GOOOOO!!!!

Let's ZABIIIIII!!!!!

Screw you "serious story", our savior is baaackkkk!!! Now we only need Hisahide, and then we can reach Nirvana.....


EDIT:OK, saw the vid...I am speechless. I mean, even Tsuruhime is badass! And look at Yukimura and Kotaro racking those combos! And Oichi having non-consensual sex with all those troops!

Anyway, if Yoshihiro is fighting the Amago, who is Oichi fighting? I only see a white-grey banner....?
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:38 am.
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:33 am
Is that the Nabeshima clan crest I see in red on the blue flags in the Keiji vs Zabii troops part of the video?

Here is the clearest picture I was able to get of it:
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If I am right, then maybe Nabeshima Naoshige could be in the game and in that stage he could be playing a role similar to Sunday Mori and Chesto Shimazu ^___^.


Also can anyone make out the red and blue crest on the red flags in Shimazu's part or the green crest on the yellow flags in the Oichi part?

Sorry I was wrong Ouelis, I looked at the vid again, in 720p this time, and it looks like the Maeda crest in Motonari's parts.
The red emblem is the Otomo clan crest.

Also, the 2ch boys are thinking the clan crest Oichi is fighting is the alternate Kato crest. Take that as you will.

Edit: Watched the video myself. I strongly suspect the crest Yoshihiro is fighting is the Ukita.
Edited by SRS, Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:58 am.
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Thanks for the confirmation Seraphil. I noticed it could be that when I remembered how Sorin was converted by the real life Zabii and edited my post right before you posted. So Kato eh? If they choose Kiyomasa they could also put in Konishi Yukinaga and have them be rivals or they could do Kato Yoshiaki and have him fight Shima Sakon at Sekigahara. I would be happy with either.
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:33 am
Is that the Nabeshima clan crest I see in red on the blue flags in the Keiji vs Zabii troops part of the video?

Here is the clearest picture I was able to get of it:
Posted Image

If I am right, then maybe Nabeshima Naoshige could be in the game and in that stage he could be playing a role similar to Sunday Mori and Chesto Shimazu ^___^.


Also can anyone make out the red and blue crest on the red flags in Shimazu's part or the green crest on the yellow flags in the Oichi part?

Sorry I was wrong Ouelis, I looked at the vid again, in 720p this time, and it looks like the Maeda crest in Motonari's parts.
The red emblem is the Otomo clan crest.

Also, the 2ch boys are thinking the clan crest Oichi is fighting is the alternate Kato crest. Take that as you will.
The plot thickens. So what does this mean? Seems strange if there were separate generics with their own stages and banners correct? It's a clear possibility that the Otomo crest is there just so that Zabi can have a clan to "represent" especially if Otomo Sorin was converted by Xavier. But perhaps there's more to it than that? Maybe Sorin himself is backstage? Wouldn't bank on it though. Then again, Zabi could be flying his colours because he's part of the Otomo faction as an NPC and Sorin himself is representing them as the PC.

And if the 2ch people are right, is the Kato involved? Could Kiyomasa be on route? Man, feels like all of a sudden we have something to talk about again. I don't know about you, but speculation or not I'm pouncing on it.
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Have you basically just confirmed Zabii in some form :/ ?
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:02 pm
Have you basically just confirmed Zabii in some form :/ ?
well, yes.
even if i rather want Itsuki
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Thanks for the information Seraphil! You really deserve your previous user title, don't you?

About the Otomo, I would go crazy if Sorin was in the game, but remember that Yukimura's sporting the Takeda flag, and Tsuruhime's the Kono's. (Ok, she has every right to.)

This means that a Tachibana retainer is not completely out of the question....even though Sorin would own so much....er, if all goes well....

So, let me annoy you again with my usual recaps....


Hinted appearing characters (PCs or NPCs, we don't know. :( )


Zabii (flag in the newest vid)

Otomo representative (Sorin, hopefully? Flag in the newest vid)

Amago representative (Tsunehisa, Haruhisa, Yamanaka Shikanosuke...who knows. Flag in the newest vid + battle of Gassan-Toda castle confirmed as a stage)

Kato representative (ok, 99% Kiyomasa I guess. Flag in the newest vid.)

Ukita representative (Most probably Hideie. Flag in the newest vid, stage icon around Okayama)

Satake representative (Yoshishige, Yoshinobu? maybe the iffiest one? There's a stage icon near Satake territory.)


That's it, off the top of my head. Now they can't be all NPCs, people...so let's all forget that 15 characters thing.....
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:02 pm
Have you basically just confirmed Zabii in some form :/ ?
well, yes.
even if i rather want Itsuki
Ugh, I'm really not Zabii's biggest fan at allll. I wonder if he'll be PC or NPC, I honest can't predict.

Itsuki will be PC, promise ya ;) .
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While I love Zabii's character I never had much fun actually playing with him. If it had to be one or the other I would prefer to have Sorin playable and Zabii be an NPC supporting Sorin.
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Thanks for the information Seraphil! You really deserve your previous user title, don't you?

About the Otomo, I would go crazy if Sorin was in the game, but remember that Yukimura's sporting the Takeda flag, and Tsuruhime's the Kono's. (Ok, she has every right to.)

This means that a Tachibana retainer is not completely out of the question....even though Sorin would own so much....er, if all goes well....

So, let me annoy you again with my usual recaps....


Hinted appearing characters (PCs or NPCs, we don't know. :( )


Zabii (flag in the newest vid)

Otomo representative (Sorin, hopefully? Flag in the newest vid)

Amago representative (Tsunehisa, Haruhisa, Yamanaka Shikanosuke...who knows. Flag in the newest vid + battle of Gassan-Toda castle confirmed as a stage)

Kato representative (ok, 99% Kiyomasa I guess. Flag in the newest vid.)

Ukita representative (Most probably Hideie. Flag in the newest vid, stage icon around Okayama)

Satake representative (Yoshishige, Yoshinobu? maybe the iffiest one? There's a stage icon near Satake territory.)


That's it, off the top of my head. Now they can't be all NPCs, people...so let's all forget that 15 characters thing.....
Nicely summarized NDY. I have to say, I'm feeling pretty exited about these potential prospects. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that many of them probably won't pan out but at least there's some ground to be speculating about it. And I'm an optimist after all.

I agree with you Adawg, I love Zabi's character, but I never really liked playing as him. As such, I would like him back as an NPC.

Side note, what was Seraphil's previous user title?
Edited by Ouelis, Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:40 pm.
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Wow, this thread is bursting, eh? Its like those who were angry aren't any more over the 'nothing' that happened a few days ago. Thats a great thing. ^.^

The vid was pretty kickass, the only thing I noticed was "-Zabii!" troops, never thought to look at the flags, but it looks like there are loads of newbies who are likely to join the fray. This will keep thigns interesting untill the last character is revealed. At least now not so much is left to the dark.

The skills were pretty nice (bowling ball Kurokan? One of the best parts, I want to play him now more than ever) Ichi's part just left me wanting more, her move set looks so cool, I want to see a vid of her. Mitsunari's demon mode looks interesting, anyone remeber what it does?
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Thanks for video Jsun. The official site takes ages to load it. :bowdown:

Anyway, this one certainly lifted my spirits. Everyone looks like a blast to play as. Mitsunari's "Devil Trigger" was über badass and Kanbei the Hedgehog was certainly worth a few laughs.
I'm liking Mitsunari more and more. He's going up on my "characters-to-try-first" list (still behind Yoshitsugu and Oichi though).

Thanks to our diligent historians for finding out possible new characters.
The good thing about Kobayashi being a blatant liar is that it can go both aways.
Besides, we got at least 3 more months til the game goes gold.
He still has time to make the right decisions.

So...Zabii's back? Well, he's a funny guy. If his dub will be like DK's Q-Ball, then I'm cool with his comeback. Besides...ZABII OR DIE!!!


Kratos Aurion,
That's perhaps my main incentive to buy the western release. I'm looking forward to go all Tenka Fubu side-by-side with my fellow Basarites.


ChibiGingi,
Happy Birthday! Seems Koba&crew got you (and us by extent) a glimpse of hope for this title.
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Its Chibi's birthday? WEll happy birthday! =D

I'm a bit worried though, that there was no sign of Hisahide. Not even anything, I get the feeling Koba isn't going to show him untill the end. But what does that even mean? Is he withholding him as an NPC so fans don't rage and give up on the game too soon? Or is he saving the 'best' (Or more... anticipated) for last?

Gah! I just want to know if he is in or not. T_T
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Have you basically just confirmed Zabii in some form :/ ?
well, yes.
even if i rather want Itsuki
Ugh, I'm really not Zabii's biggest fan at allll. I wonder if he'll be PC or NPC, I honest can't predict.

Itsuki will be PC, promise ya ;) .
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Chibi, didn't want to say it before because it might have come off like rubbing salt in the wounds of the bad day you described, but indeed: Happy Birthday! At least now you have a lot of interesting things to talk about here for SB3 speculation and got a great trailer too boot ^__^.

NDY: Was the Amago flag the white w/ black rectangles or the red flag w/ the blue crest? Also, where in the video was the flag Ukita? Is it one of the two I mentioned from the Shimazu part or something else I completely missed?

Akiro, I don't think most people who got angry over things to do with the English release were just going to drop the game and forget about it. I'm still really sad that it looks like we won't get dual audio and ticked @ the name order ordeal, but nothing is going to stop me enjoying a new SB game. Even if I don't end up buying the US one (could always rent to get the story and whatnot) there is nothing that will deter me from importing this day one.

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@ Fab:

The Amago flag was the red and blue one. After rewatching the vid it seems to me that Yoshihiro and Oichi are fighting against the same enemies...Seraphil mentioned the Ukita, and the 2chers the Kato...but honestly I don't get it...so take those two predictions with a grain of salt, until further confirmation!

And Happy Birthday, Chibi! Forget about Basara's emotional roller coaster, but remember we all love you here :heart:
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:48 pm.
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Yeah it looked like they had the same white w/ black flags to me and only difference was the blue / red flags and yellow / green flags in the background. So I was confused as to why the Amago and Kato would both have that white/black flag lol.
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@ Fab:

The Amago flag was the red and blue one. After rewatching the vid it seems to me that Yoshihiro and Oichi are fighting against the same enemies...Seraphil mentioned the Ukita, and the 2chers the Kato...but honestly I don't get it...so take those two predictions with a grain of salt, until further confirmation!
I'm a bit unsure as well. While the enemies seem to be the same, flying those white with black rectangles flags, in Oichi's part you can see a couple of black on yellow flags in the background, and they don't look like Tokugawa flags. So I don't know what to think.

EDIT: Yeah, Happy Birthday Chibi.
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@ Fab:

The Amago flag was the red and blue one. After rewatching the vid it seems to me that Yoshihiro and Oichi are fighting against the same enemies...Seraphil mentioned the Ukita, and the 2chers the Kato...but honestly I don't get it...so take those two predictions with a grain of salt, until further confirmation!
I'm a bit unsure as well. While the enemies seem to be the same, flying those white with black rectangles flags, in Oichi's part you can see a couple of black on yellow flags in the background, and they don't look like Tokugawa flags. So I don't know what to think.

EDIT: Yeah, Happy Birthday Chibi.
wait i just checked that part out and it looks like a possibility for hisahide to be in :XD im kinda possitive its the matsunaga flag(or whatever flag he reps)

and the blue and red flag is the otomo ehhhh :sly: i was looking forward to sorin in a prequel but it appears he might make an apperance now :D

so this is good news we finally got something to talk about for a while :)

ohhhh and happy B day chibi :P

ohhh and one more thing in the new vid if you stop it at 0:51 when magoichi is doing her basara you can see a guy in a red coat and a hakama with a weapon similar to motonari's SB1 weapon and he looks a little to unique to be a generic and at the end of magoichi basara he starts glowing purple

heh maybe yukinaga since maggie was fighting the konishi
Edited by DarkMantisTalon, Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:07 pm.
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