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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,130 Views)
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:39 am
That stage shown during Keiji's part in the video looks familiar. I have a strange feeling that we know who the next returning character is. And he's gonna "make it rain" for sure :rolleyes:

Also I think KuroKan is fighting in Odawara castle (note the fancy gate he slams into :P).
I like Kotaro's slick air combos that were shown, too.

And...OICHI! :D Looks like her playstyle hasn't been heavily altered by the lack of naginata, but her skills look much better this time around. In SB2H I pretty much only stuck with the wide-sweeping slash, and occassionally used the skill where she twirls the two parts above her head.


THERE! Now let's all get out of the doldrums for a while! :dance:
Just out of curiosity, who did you mean?
Cause I can't think of anyone with that description.
I was thinking of Kennyo, cause of all the yellow and gold colours, but looking again, it does look more like Zabii's stage interior from SB2. And that screen that was posted that had the flag with his face :XD

Very interesting notes on the new flags. So we might just get Hideie after all? And maybe another Kyushu representative from the Otomo?
I'm rooting for a Tachibana, mainly cause I have no idea who Sorin was...to Google!
Edited by RTsharpshooter, Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:53 pm.
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So...who fights the Amago?

And who the Otomo?

Hmmm...that trailer certainly is suspicious. I mean, it shows the "two new main characters" then the "four new side characters", then shortly all of the others...

And thanks to that it looks like that´s the whole roster. :mellow:

I can understand why people believe this is it. That´s all we are getting as playables.

And thank god they kept Yoshihiro´s epic generic left/right S-string.
Let´s hope he has his old BASARA too. Will be a blast to play as him. Thank god other characters are NPCs, not him :facepalm:

Would be funny if Sorin is revealed next week as "Zabii´s NPC".

Though, they might turn out all to be NPCs(and let´s pray to god...that´s not Kobayashi...he´s not a god...), we still have the Amago flag (not sure were you all saw it in the video) plus that certain castle battle and now some more flags which are Otomo/Kato/Ukita, something like that.

So this opens hope for characters that have no N to the PC.

But I´m with Akiro here. Announce "him" allready. We want to know if this roster can still be badass or just ass.

EDIT:

Sonic Kurokan is epic. Maybe he has a homing ball attack too. :shifty:

So far Mitsunari and Kurokan look like a blast to play as, Yoshitsugu and Maggie still need a test play though they look really good too and Ieyasu and Tsuruhime...well...Ieyasu´s skills look all very similiar and Tsuru...meh, one time play.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:58 pm.
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And thank god they kept Yoshihiro´s epic generic left/right S-string.
Let´s hope he has his old BASARA too. Will be a blast to play as him. Thank god other characters are NPCs, not him :facepalm:

Come on, no love for Yoshihiro? He's amazing. Wait and see if he has any good comboing abilities before we complain. There might be more 'worthy' characters to be playable (Sasuke, Kenshin, etc..) but hell, Yoshihiro is much better than Itsuki..
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Come on, no love for Yoshihiro? He's amazing. Wait and see if he has any good comboing abilities before we complain. There might be more 'worthy' characters to be playable (Sasuke, Kenshin, etc..) but hell, Yoshihiro is much better than Itsuki..


Speaking about Yoshihiro's comboing abilities....

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Well, I do support Itsuki's returns ^_^
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Come on, no love for Yoshihiro? He's amazing. Wait and see if he has any good comboing abilities before we complain. There might be more 'worthy' characters to be playable (Sasuke, Kenshin, etc..) but hell, Yoshihiro is much better than Itsuki..


Speaking about Yoshihiro's comboing abilities....

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Well, I do support Itsuki's returns ^_^
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...wow. How did that happen?

Anyways, I hope they develop the Hondam/Yoshihiro rivalry more in this one.
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I can allready imagine "Shimazu´s epic retreat BASARA version" were he S-Strings and BASARA´s his way out, through 1000 of enemies, wtih the same looking attack.

(NDY, didn´t you prophecy something like that back then? Shimazu´s retreat with an epic S-String-BASARA? :huh: )

So, who was Motonari fighting against? The Oda? Or someone else?
Since we get Motonari´s video next, we´ll know if we can expect something of next week or if we might get to eat salty screenshot crackers and slurp some NPC voice tea for the time being -_-

P.S.: I updated the video thread...I even used the english voice order :sick:
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Kratos, you need to post a lot more. Your sig would surely help curb a lot of whining in this thread!

People, realistically speaking, they can't keep us 3 months waiting giving us only new NPC info. They didn't do it when the game was just announced, and the pace got pretty faster lately. Let's try to be just a little hopeful, all the while keeping in mind Sasuke's advice....

EDIT: Yeah DK, I think I did, but to be fair Yoshihiro seems to have gotten a powerup, not in the s-string but in the skill department. Just like all the old characters, after all. Tadakatsu was a beast before, but he looks practically unstoppable now. Ok, even more unstoppable.

Even Aniki, bottom of the bottom tier (gameplay wise) seems much more powerful. Motonari was great, and he seems even greater. Yoshihiro seems to have become more versatile. Oichi could give Jedah a run for his money, and Kotaro...damn, he didn't even need a power-up, didn't he?

Yukimura seems like he wants to become a chaining master, and Masamune just multiplied his skills' coolness by 6.


The branching paths, the improved gameplay (trust me), the new characters. Koba and the Basara team made some stupid decisions, but this game is definitely an evolution towards the right path. Imho.
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:55 pm.
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Well, Sasuke, sadly I´m not a NPC, so you can´t be me.

And I don´t take advices from guys, who are controlled by the computer. The Matrix showed us, that it won´t end well -_-

Though NDY is right. It can´t be only 15 characters. Imagine it. It´s suicide. CAPCOM seems to really care for that money making horse (at least in terms of mangas, animes, merchandise, etc.)

Bleach sells merchandise since people watch the anime. With all those damn boring and uninteresting fillers they lost a lot of viewers and thus potential Bleach game, anime, etc. buyers.

It´s the same with BASARA. If people stop buying the games and thus stop getting interested in buying other BASARA related stuff, CAPCOM will lose money. And since it´s a company, especially a big one and companies, especially big ones, would rather sell their souls and their own children, then to lose money.

Cause let´s be honest. We´d have 15 PCs and 10 NPCs. Allmost a half of them are unplayable. And it seems we´ll get more NPCs, since I can´t imagine Zabii to be playable (another kick in the balls, anyone?)

And which rational person would pay for a full priced game that cut favourite characters, made some unplayable, brought out an underdeveloped PS3 version and a Wii version without online-modes and then has a playable roster that´s as big as the NPC controlled "bosses"?

As a big Darker than Black fan, I´d look at it rational and go get a game that´s worth my money.

And NDY is right, we still have 3 months. Great way to start the hype train before the release of the game, to show us even more unplayable characters...

So there gotta be at least 4-5 more playable characters.

BTW, BK, in Smash Bros Brawl, they also found some "hidden character files" like Dixie Kong, Plusle and Minus (or whatever those Pikachu wannabes names are) and they started with _00.

You said Kojuuro is Char_20, right? And he is the first NPC?
So is the first playable listed under char_00 or char_01?

Cause that´d indicate 20 playables. :dance:

EDIT:

Did I see right? Yoshiaki was doing Yoshimitsu´s sword hop move :o
Awesome :cool:

And Ujimasa´s burning vulcano hat is back...epic. :heart:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:58 pm.
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:27 am
No............it's because Chris Sabat is a jerk.

I have no problem with DBZ......it's still one of my favorite animes.
how is he a jerk?

im curious, i dont recall ever hearing bad things about him before... :huh:
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Only thing I don't like about Sabat is:
1: He takes credit for the over 9000 meme, when that was the clip of Brian Drummond's voice..
2: He voices half the cast on DBZ and they all sound the same (Piccolo, Nappa, Vegeta, Shenlong, etc..)
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no they dont... vegeta and piccolo both have differences in their voices... he also does many other voices, such as jeice, burter, and many more whose voices couldnt be more different than the rest...

you know, i can say that about all japanese VAs... they all sound the same... they're either deep and angry, or high-pitched and girly... no matter if they're male or female...

now, watch as the flow of posts comes in saying how different the japanese VAs are...

Edit: though, i guess i can agree with you on that "over 9,000" thing...
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:24 pm.
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Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:47 pm
BTW, BK, in Smash Bros Brawl, they also found some "hidden character files" like Dixie Kong, Plusle and Minus (or whatever those Pikachu wannabes names are) and they started with _00.

You said Kojuuro is Char_20, right? And he is the first NPC?
So is the first playable listed under char_00 or char_01?
Hmm, IIRC it starts with _01.

But if it's like you mentioned about the secret charas in SSBB, well, there might be always an opportunity for them to put some surprise _00s. But don't put your hope too much on that. :meantongue:
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Only thing I don't like about Sabat is:
1: He takes credit for the over 9000 meme, when that was the clip of Brian Drummond's voice..
2: He voices half the cast on DBZ and they all sound the same (Piccolo, Nappa, Vegeta, Shenlong, etc..)
Yes.......and YES!!!
I heard he also tried to take credit for the ESCAPE MY WRATH!!!
And a while back he was saying Brian Drummond's Vegeta was weak.

Sabat's over 9,000 was so weak.

And yes..........His piccolo and Vegeta damn near sound the same.

But I digress.........I simply don't like Chris Sabat.
Edited by JHouser, Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:12 pm.
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Well, if we do get dissapointed...I´ll do it like you BK.

Since the game, I :bowdown: , is not Sengoku BASARA, but the Twisted Metal series.

And the rumors are getting more and more that they´ll announce a next gen TM for the PS3 on the E3 2010.

Online + next gen graphcis and the possible return of low budget "real life"-movies? Epic beyond everything.

But that´s just if it turns out to be a total fail.
And a total fail would be:
A)Not having Hisahide as a playable character
B) Having more NPCs than PCs
C) A 15 character roster

Everyone should have a back up plan if one of their biggest interests/hobbies is turning out to be an epic fail.

I´m just saying, it helps to ease the pain a bit, to see a game, that might make it right :ph43r:
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Everyone should have a back up plan if one of their biggest interests/hobbies is turning out to be an epic fail.
This is sound logic. *cough*Strikeforce2*cough*

I was simply stopping by to see the activity, but what a fail that Gamespot piece was. Yukimura + six swords? I've never even played a Basara game and know that was wrong :lol:
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In regards to Sabat, yea, Drummond was way better as Vegeta. I dont like how he likes to take credit for 9000 when it was ol Drummy who actually said the line. Not to say hes a bad actor though, buty Ocean Group on the whole is a lot better. Im actually kinda bummed. OG did Devil Kings, and I mean, that was pretty bad in terms of lcalization, but the acting was top notch. Shame they arent coming back for SB3.

As for characters, im expecting Hanzo Hattori to be revealed as playable soon. We only have 1 ninja playable, and since the Tokugawa faction seems to be the good guys, or at least the main guys, hed make sense.

I also want Zabii/Xavier (wouldnt that be the english equivalent?) back since hes awesome
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I believe it was KW's main home page that said 15 PC and 10 NPCs I always check the main page before checking the forums.

IF (i'm not holding my breath) there is more characters he should of held back info on the game when it comes to the west, its already been announced and it will probperbly be forgotten in a week with the release of SSFIV, the Announcement of Mvc 3 And with the release of Lost Planet 2 around the corner.
Koba must be as thick as wood if he thinks the west are going to be hooked on 50% of the product when its competing in a genre that doesn't get much attention.

For a game producer thats making a game based on war, his tactics for victory are both futile and Stupid.

But I guess hes gonna lose at his own game of "lets Hold out on Info" because the truth is west is where the money is.

1. most of the gamers are male and there and not enough females plus theres no balance because the majority of the male characters are designed in a fan girl image.

2. with the west not taking much interest in Asian history (unfortunately) they have to go by gameplay which they seem to have improved on, However the first point can easily over run this because of the amount of NPCs and the overall out look of choice is minimal.

3. Never Pull the fans string (its a dangerous Tactic) because if you don't deliver it comes off as an insult and/Or a waste of time, and you WILL lose them.

and the overall product gets stamped with "Nothing Special"

NOT GOOD :hmmm:

I haven't casted Judgement on the game yet but with the other basara's i was excited but with this instalment its more a feeling of annoyance, be Careful Koba I want this game to succeed, but you need to stop being the joker and take things a little more seriously.
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Capcom has finally presented us with an English trailer for their upcoming hack-'n-slash title, Sengoku BASARA: Samurai Heroes for the Nintendo Wii and Playstation 3. The character roster includes 15 playable characters and 10 non-playable characters. There is an on-going debate now on our forums about the current roster which has infuriated many dedicated fans. The game will be released in Japan on July 29, 2010 and later in Fall 2010 for North America/Europe.

From the KW main page.

EDIT:

I would´ve used another word for "joker"...but yeah...that fits.

What have I and HnB talked about new and better release strategies for the west. :rolleyes:

We´re not even PR experts, but the things we said are human logic.
Everyone should now, what not and what to do.

But it seems Koba wants the game to fail, yet again, just under another name.

As you´ve said: Lost Planet 2, Bionic Commando Re-armed 2, Super Street Fighter IV and moreover Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and Dead Rising 2.

Do you think anyone who types in CAPCOM, thinks about Sengoku BASARA Samurai Heroes in the west?

Also with games like Red Dead Redemption (even if wodash didn´t like Revolver, a lot of the NA/EU gamers liked it, since it´s hard to find a solid western themed game and thus look forward to it) all the CAPCOM titles and even the possible E3 announcement of Twisted Metal gets more attention (and that´s just a rumor) for the PS3 + Super Mario Galaxy 2, the new Zelda E3 announcement and Metroid the other M for the Wii...

Does he really think a NPC festival with an under developed PS3 version and a "no online" Wii version are going to catch some interest?

Does he think we´d buy "there´s no place for dual Audio track" on a Blue-Ray, even on a normal DVD? Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, and Mario Galaxy 1/2 fits on a Wii disc. And BASARA can not even dream to match pearls like them. Even Monster Hunter Tri fits on a damn Wii disc.
Or do you have more NPCs in your Trollballs that take away so much space?

And there´s still no sign of the FUNimation anime. Get that damn english version of the anime out, to get some fanbase over there.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:09 pm.
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But that´s just if it turns out to be a total fail.
And a total fail would be:
A)Not having Hisahide as a playable character
B) Having more NPCs than PCs
C) A 15 character roster
A) I'd worry :/
B) Possibility
c) No chance, I definately think they'll be at least another reveal, probably more :) .
Edited by The Outsider, Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:06 pm.
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I'll go ahead and post the link to Kotaku about their SB3 Captivate coverage just so it doesn't come up later;

http://kotaku.com/5520771/can-americans-love-a-dreamy-samurai-game

Don't bother with it though. It's just a write-up of talk points that has obviously been fed to them, which is apparent in the whole "You take control of one of four famous samurai" only to add a few paragraphs down, "Four of the 15 player character are" etc. In my mind, the whole thing reads like it was written by someone with no real interest in the subject. And since we've already shot the whole 15 PC's, 10 NPC's in the foot today with the more or less 98.5% sure inclusion of Zabi in some way, it renders what little in the article that would be of interest to us useless. Kinda disappointing, since they wrote they would have an interview with Koba, not just two small statements. Oh well, no matter.



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people are going on about lost planet 2, dead rising 2, MvC3, SSF4 and whatever else... quite a bit...

to be honest, i'd rather get sengoku basara 3 than any of those... i mean, i might get MvC3 if it has a normal two-player mode, maybe SSF4 as well, just to finally have some games i can play with people i know, im sick of seeing online multiplayer-only games...

but im pretty interested in SB3... im irritated at the massive NPC count, and low PC count... but still, i like asian history.

one of the main reasons im sickened to be part of america, the majority of the gamers are shameful... rockstar wannabes, excercise freaks, american war game lovers, halo lovers, etc...

i'd rather play games with some meaning behind them... i read about american history, it sucks... reading about japan and china? i get absorbed into it...

atleast they have true warriors deserving of fame and immortality through remembrance...

...i would go into a long slam and bash session on america, but this isnt the place for such things...

anyway, i hope that the idiot behind this game pulls something big off before the release, but im not gonna get my hopes up too much...
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Wow im awestruck by the trailer!
i mean WOW! this game just looks AMAZING!
why not just put everyone as pc's? Why go through the trouble for npcs?
i mean, this looks soo much better than sb2 or sb2 heroes... in gameplay, graphics improved HUGE, and lots of fun!

I mean, if its already that awesome, Why limit it? why not just put everything in one game and blow all the fans away and introduce this game to the world of its awesomeness? im pretty sure that would 'milk' more people in geez...
seriously though, it looks great. I kinda wanna get it.


Whoa whoa whoa!!!!
whats this talk of different characters yayy!
Zabii ehh i realy dont care much about him but at least it proves that there are still more characters to come, and not stopping at just 25 characters in total.

OTOMO SORIN.
OMG. IF THEY ADD HIM IN. ID BUY THIS GAME WITHOUT ANY REGRETS. HE BETTER BE PC THOUGH. OTOMO SORIN. OMG

kato! yayayyayay kato MIGHT be coming in!
and yayy ukita!!!
looks like no todo? hmm i guess they dont like him that much then :P but we shall see.

i feel like this is going away from sekigahara for now...
with tsuruhime, and the otomo amago ppl...its not so focused on sekigahara anymore. I mean, random ppl fighting random ppl now. Tsuruhime vs. Motochika?
fuma having talks with tsuruhime?
its kinda leading away from sekigahara in my opinion.
but i will definitely check this game out.

JUST PUT SOME GOD DAMN MORE CHARACTERS AS PCS GOSH!
THEN THAT WOULD JUST MAKE THIS GAME PERFECT!
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I'm thinking every PC that hasn't been confirmed as not being in will be NPC's...

Also, wouldn't there be some way to hack the game to play as the NPC's since they have Movesets made for them?
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As far as I know...no? Yes? Maybe?

At least not for the PS3. So you can go for the Wii version, which runs a bit "slower" than the PS3 version and has no online capabilities and were you need to "update" your Wii so you can play the japanese version or you go for the PS3 version were you don´t have action replay codes.

As far as it goes for me, as much as I love Matsu, if I get to play with some of you guys and beat some Tsuruhime users with my hopefully playable Hisahide...I´d rather go for the PS3 version.

Isn´t it time, that someone blanks that stuff out about 15 playable and 10 NPCs?

Since a lot of people look at the KW site read that and just get totally turned off by it, since that sounds like DW6. (even worse since DW6 didn´t have playable characters that were turned into NPCs...)

Not that it bothers me, since it won´t change the fact that it´ll flop thanks to Koba´s and CAPCOM´s way of advertizing the game over here...but KW holds a certain power, especially when it comes to Hack´n Slash games. :ph43r:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:06 pm.
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*finally catches up to thread*

Thanks for the birthday wishes... they mean a lot, especially after my ordeal last night. It's done and over with now, so everything's cool. Thanks again, it means a lot.

As for Basara, I'm actually psyched about the recently posted trailer, despite the possibility of there only being 15 PCs... not sure where it was stated outside of the main page on Koei Warriors, when there might be more along the way. I guess I allowed my pessimism to get the better of me, so sorry about my last whiney post.

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