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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,123 Views)
DarkMantisTalon
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:57 am
Sorry folks, no Basara in this week's Famitsu

Edit: Necrosis, I know, but the problem is that people DO take it seriously...that doesn't help a fledgling series like this in the west.
aww man no famitsu well it was expected from everyone anyway :/
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Wu Tugu
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Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:19 am
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Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:07 am
the thing I don't understand is why focus on one part of history and have very little amount of characters?
well,sekigahara is considered the last big chapter on the sengoku period,when ieyasu won that,the tumults are pretty much lessened into a small scale conflicts that soon ended the whole sengoku period which are not that much interesting to portray as the main storyline

but if you meant why they didn't bring back the pre sekigahara scenarios like okehazama,anegawa,nagashino,honnouji,the kawanakajima sagas,etc.) its probably because they didnt want the gamer to be bored by it(like seeing nobunaga die epicly,AGAIN),but fret not,it can still be touched upon on the next expansions and games.....
well i did not ask why didn't the bring back pre-sekigahara I just find it weird that koba would do this. think about it, there are going to be people who will purchase this game that has never been introduced to the SB series and when they find out they have purchased a game based on one part of of the sengoku jidai, they're gonna be like "WHERES THE REST OF THE GAME"? :blink: :blink:

I don't think this is a step in the right path and if they are saving some for an expansion pack then that makes koba even more lame <_< <_<
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:05 am
The video will be up for grabs from the 29th, IIRC.

The demo has you playing as the 4 main guys, with Ueda castle, Mikatagahara and Itsukushima as available stages.

At JF you had 15 minutes to play, so most people usually finished a stage then were interrupted after starting the second one. (Like me. I played through Mikatagahara with Mitsunari, then played just a little of Ueda castle with Ieyasu)

But this time there are no limitations...except courtesy, of course. I'll see what I can do. The game's development is finished, so it's safe to assume that the demo represents the final product....I guess.
Let's hope not or yes depending on the outcome.[Though if what we saw was the finished product,I wouldn't have any problems.]

Enjoy the demo NDY.Have a good time. :wave:

Edited by Mibu Kyoshiro, Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:19 am.
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On...29th?

Isn´t that the day of the emperor? :bowdown:
So they are doing something on that day?
Isn´t that blasphemy? :uh:

Okay, to get on topic, I guess they didn´t want to reveal a new character, since this is such a short week and a lot of the people are probably doing something else, than looking on some game site to see if there´s something new.(Holidays = worst time to adverstize something, cause no ones there to look at it)

So that actually makes sense.

Well, at least we´ll have Yoshiaki´s voice tomorrow (wonder what it´ll sound like) and Motonari´s "hot" video.

And the video for PSN? I bet it´s nothing special.
Why would they announce something like a secret character on it?

It´s probably just the skills trailer or characters trailer. :mellow:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:22 pm.
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:13 pm
On...29th?

Isn´t that the day of the emperor? :bowdown:
So they are doing something on that day?
Isn´t that blasphemy? :uh:

Okay, to get on topic, I guess they didn´t want to reveal a new character, since this is such a short week and a lot of the people are probably doing something else, than looking on some game site to see if there´s something new.(Holidays = worst time to adverstize something, cause no ones there to look at it)

So that´s actually makes sense.

Well, at least we´ll have Yoshiaki´s voice tomorrow (wonder what it´ll sound like) and Motonari´s "hot" video.

And the video for PSN? I bet it´s nothing special.
Why would they announce something like a secret character on it?

It´s probably just the skills trailer or characters trailer. :mellow:
well im looking forward to hearing yoshiaki and seeing motonari in action :dance:


but im really waiting for a new character maybe they will finally show us the amago rep (please be shikanosuke :mellow: ) or reveal zabii and otomo sorin

well im just eager to see the the amago rep hopefully its a feral wolf themed shikanosuke PLEASE KOBA!! :lol:
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^ As much as I want a Wolf-themed character in the game, it definitely will not be Shikanosuke. (Hint- "The Deer has slain the Wolf!")
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If Shikanosuke is suppose to be the Moon samurai... let him have a Rabbit theme. Don't the Japanese believe there to be bunnies on the moon (as seen in various other anime and games)?

Rabbits are kick ass. Monty Python proves it.
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A Moon rabbit theme? Sounds cool, but all I can think of are the Viera from FFXII :XD
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A Moon rabbit theme? Sounds cool, but all I can think of are the Viera from FFXII :XD
... that wouldn't be such a bad idea. I can think of a few ways to make rabbits badass, though I'm more of a fan of Hares.

... Okay, you know what, why can I not type or think the word 'hare' without wanting to follow with 'DO A BARREL ROLL'. Knowing Basara, they'd have the balls to make that reference if they wanted to.
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well wolves worship the moon (or something like that) so thats why i thought a wolf themed shikanosuke would be awsome but the rabbit idea sounds sorta cool but i dont think i would like shikanosuke to be a rabbit samurai maybe someone else hmmmmmm well idk who would fit a rabbit :huh:
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:24 pm
well wolves worship the moon (or something like that) so thats why i thought a wolf themed shikanosuke would be awsome but the rabbit idea sounds sorta cool but i dont think i would like shikanosuke to be a rabbit samurai maybe someone else hmmmmmm well idk who would fit a rabbit :huh:
Have you not seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? You don't MESS with rabbits, they'll **** you up.

While a wolf is more threatening, there can be a certain charm/threat with someone who appears harmless, docile. It leads the opponent to underestimate them, and when they get too big headed, the rabbit can bare its fangs and take them out. Perhaps a wolf, in the guise of a rabbit, deer (or a sheep?) Not as he appears?

Just brainstorming here, since I have no real hopes for this character (not when they could give the last slot to Itsucki or the better choice of Zabii).
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[examples of badass rabbit influence]
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:whistle: Anyway...
If Shikanosuke is in, I bet he'll have a Deer influence, after all he was known as the Deer, not the Bunny rabbit, or Wolf. :mellow:
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:28 pm
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:24 pm
well wolves worship the moon (or something like that) so thats why i thought a wolf themed shikanosuke would be awsome but the rabbit idea sounds sorta cool but i dont think i would like shikanosuke to be a rabbit samurai maybe someone else hmmmmmm well idk who would fit a rabbit :huh:
Have you not seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? You don't MESS with rabbits, they'll **** you up.

While a wolf is more threatening, there can be a certain charm/threat with someone who appears harmless, docile. It leads the opponent to underestimate them, and when they get too big headed, the rabbit can bare its fangs and take them out. Perhaps a wolf, in the guise of a rabbit, deer (or a sheep?) Not as he appears?

Just brainstorming here, since I have no real hopes for this character (not when they could give the last slot to Itsucki or the better choice of Zabii).
i actually never seen monty python before but he did look crazy in that vid akiro posted but hey akiro who is that big bunny guy in the pic?

and im still hoping for a wolf theme shikanosuke :meantongue: lol
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:54 pm
If Shikanosuke is suppose to be the Moon samurai... let him have a Rabbit theme. Don't the Japanese believe there to be bunnies on the moon (as seen in various other anime and games)?

Rabbits are kick ass. Monty Python proves it.
Well, when we first started discussing the character, I mentioned they should give him a kine as a weapon (you know, the hammer-esque thingie used to pound mochi, which apparently is what the Japanese see the rabbit doing).

And I believe this is the second time Monty Python and the Holy Grail gets mentioned. Epic film is epic.


As Hondam pointed out, a wolf-themed Shikanosuke is rather contradictive, besides we already have Inuchiyo-sama for our canine aesthetics.
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By the way, here is the boxart for Sengoku Basara 3 on the wii in Japan

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/basara_3_boxart.jpg
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:40 am
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Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:19 am
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Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:07 am
the thing I don't understand is why focus on one part of history and have very little amount of characters?
well,sekigahara is considered the last big chapter on the sengoku period,when ieyasu won that,the tumults are pretty much lessened into a small scale conflicts that soon ended the whole sengoku period which are not that much interesting to portray as the main storyline

but if you meant why they didn't bring back the pre sekigahara scenarios like okehazama,anegawa,nagashino,honnouji,the kawanakajima sagas,etc.) its probably because they didnt want the gamer to be bored by it(like seeing nobunaga die epicly,AGAIN),but fret not,it can still be touched upon on the next expansions and games.....
well i did not ask why didn't the bring back pre-sekigahara I just find it weird that koba would do this. think about it, there are going to be people who will purchase this game that has never been introduced to the SB series and when they find out they have purchased a game based on one part of of the sengoku jidai, they're gonna be like "WHERES THE REST OF THE GAME"? :blink: :blink:

I don't think this is a step in the right path and if they are saving some for an expansion pack then that makes koba even more lame <_< <_<
They could always alter the entire storyline as well as what each character contributes to it.
But this seems familiar... like Capcom have done something like this before... :whistle:

Now, regarding this rabbit/moon themed character. I think if they can make it badass then I'm all for it. After all, can't have too many PC's now can we? Especially in this game.
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Yeah...we all know that Mori Motonari was a sun loving freak that wore a plant hat and danced with a ring blade.

We all know that Chosokabe Motochika was an Anchor spear wielding one eyed pirate that ran around chasing treasure.

We all know that Honda Tadakatsu was a giant terminator gundam wielding a giant drill spear, flying around and not saying a word.

We all know Kobayakawa Hideaki was a giant beetle helmet wearing coward who only ran around cooking for others and getting Mori-slapped for using plants in his meals.

So yeah...Shinkanosuke having a wolf theme is really unfitting.
Especially if you count in the fact, that the deer could have slain the wolf and now became the wolf himself, wearing the "trophies" of the defeated hunter.

Though I wouldn´t really worry to much, since:
A) He might not be in
B) There´s are a lot of possibilities for his design with a deer/wolf/child of the moon/crescent moon samurai/night/loyal/having lost everything and tried to get it back/never giving up-history
C) Koba is the one in charge. And as the fifth horseman, called Ruin, he has to do his job, as long as he´s sitting on his orange horse called Trollking.

EDIT:

Also I´m counting on you, Jsun, NDY...Motonari´s video means work for us, after a long time :dance:

Shining hope for everyone.
Ieyasu, Mitsunari, Masamune, Yukimura, Yoshitsugu, Magoichi, Kanbei, Motochika, Motonari and Tsuruhime have a gameplay video.

There´s space for 16 videos. We have 10 now.
Leaving 6 open.

BUT, we only have Keiji, Oichi, Tadakatsu, Yoshihiro and Kotaro left.
We´d miss one character.

Of course some might argue now that Koba doesn´t care if there´s one spot left...but it´s a theory that gives hope.

Since we all assume that the space for the playable spots are for 19 characters, we can assume that there´ll be 16 videos.

I love it to build up hope, just to get kicked down by Koba´s genius decisions. Let´s hope for the best this time :dance:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:59 pm.
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well if shikanosuke does make it to basara i hope he doesnt have a deer helmet becuse hondam is already rockin one and i dont like the idea of two deer helmeted characters
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It may just be that I'm feeling pretty tired, but I don't know if you're being serious or not DK. But if what you described were true, we might as well expect the space left for the trailers/intro and such be filled up as well, and that seems like a lot of space for that.

The reason I think that the 19 PC thing according to the site layout has some relevance is because Kojuro's file extension was character_20 or something along those lines. But I still think that it's a rocky base to by building a oppinion on, so I don't really place too much faith in it.

Motonari's video tomorrow then. Hojo and Yoshiaki's voice clips as well. Gotta say that I'm curious to see what Monsieur Mustache sounds like.
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I know it's probably not likely, but has anyone thought that the Kojuuro being #20 might only be applicable for the website as it is now? As in, the website itself might change its setup again and the underlying numbers would be different. It is possible (though very unlikely) that we might just hit PC #19 and then the next week the website itself would change around to fit more characters.

Again, this is just me playing around with an idea, no one should get their hopes up...
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This is just stupid. Every review or preview spells something wrong. I saw them spell "heroes" wrong. FAIL. I just read this preview http://www.gamedaily.com/games/sengoku-basara-samurai-heroes/playstation-3/game-previews/preview/9162/20777/

They say that the game has no multiplayer. They don't even know what they're talking about. Also, they say the game plays EXACTLY like Dynasty Warriors. FAIL x2.

They do say something VERY interesting though. They talk about the posterboys, and then, the say their are "three unannounced females", they're are probably wrong though. I think they're just talking about our 3 female PC's.

This can't be the full roster, though. Koba wouldn't reak this many promises. He said there would be more females,, a bigger roster than HEROES, and Hisahide should definitely return, there are also some other characters that should return. Like MUSASHI. He wouldn't be this stupid. If all he cares about is money, than he is going to lost A LOT in the overseas version. He took the time to DUB the game (sadly), so he just lost more cash, unless he has a master plan.
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This is just stupid. Every review or preview spells something wrong. I saw them spell "heroes" wrong. FAIL. I just read this preview http://www.gamedaily.com/games/sengoku-basara-samurai-heroes/playstation-3/game-previews/preview/9162/20777/

They say that the game has no multiplayer. They don't even know what they're talking about. Also, they say the game plays EXACTLY like Dynasty Warriors. FAIL x2.

They do say something VERY interesting though. They talk about the posterboys, and then, the say their are "three unannounced females", they're are probably wrong though. I think they're just talking about our 3 female PC's.

This can't be the full roster, though. Koba wouldn't reak this many promises. He said there would be more females,, a bigger roster than HEROES, and Hisahide should definitely return, there are also some other characters that should return. Like MUSASHI. He wouldn't be this stupid. If all he cares about is money, than he is going to lost A LOT in the overseas version. He took the time to DUB the game (sadly), so he just lost more cash, unless he has a master plan.
wow that site really failed :facepalm:

but when i was reading it when it says the three unannounced females i automatically thought of chacha,ohatsu,and oyeo but i too think there only talking about maggie,tsuru,and oichi

so im gonna rest up to watch motonari's vid and hear uncle mogami and grampa hojo's voices lol :lol: :wave:
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About the Kojuro #20 thing, he was originally thefirst NPC on the site, but now Kobayakawa is in that position. Anyone know his data #?
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Video's out

http://journal.mycom.co.jp/news/2010/04/28/017/index.html


Toshiie's quote:

"Even if I'm hungry, the battle will end up well, somehow or other!
Something greater than what a hand can grasp...I'll protect it."

Matsu's quote:

"Matsu too is standing upon the castle's walls! Spring is the season for black rockfish!"

Ujimasa's quote:

"Goooo!! This is the moment for the Hojo to rise again!! I can see it...the whole world singing the praises of the Hojo houseee!!"

Yoshiaki's quote:

"I am the Fox of Dewa...the Great! The smart! Fox, is me! Sir Mogami is amazing...repeat after me!"



Motonari's video


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Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:55 am.
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Interesting find there, website hasn't update yet for me so still gotta wait to hear Mogami and Ujimasa's voice clips and see if they add any new pics and whatnot.
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