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| Moogle | Sun May 2, 2010 6:32 pm Post #5676 |
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OMG I thought that too! I didn't want to say anythign incase it sounded silly Also, I can't wait to see Oichi's gameplay video! Her new MS looks amazing :'D However what role does she play exactly this time? There's no Nagamasa or Nobunaga so... Is she by herself? I'm confused.
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| DarkMantisTalon | Sun May 2, 2010 6:43 pm Post #5677 |
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Sengoku Period Fanboy (hehe)
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your welcome announce it on what site? and by put the motonari vid up do you mean a review? |
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| Ouelis | Sun May 2, 2010 6:45 pm Post #5678 |
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The Smooth Sound of the Ocean
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Oooh, swing and a miss. Oddly enough though, the entire joke is actually from something that MCPP has been in. One more try I think, then I'll just tell the whole joke. So...we're even? Now that is odd. I had thought that the East was lacking several characters to balance it out between the two. That being said, I thought that the Shimazu fought for the East? |
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| Jsun | Sun May 2, 2010 6:46 pm Post #5679 |
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KOEI Warriors Forever!
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The KOEI Warriors site. I hope you know that this forum does have a site.http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/ |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun May 2, 2010 7:00 pm Post #5680 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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*knows that the site webmaster is now a bit dissapointed* I bet they knew it, but just forgot about it for a moment. We don´t say it often, but thanks for all the work you all put into this site and the forum (as well as adding a lot of attention to CAPCOM and other games, instead of showing DW6 expansions all the time...)We never really lacked the numbers...it´s a matter of the characters. I mean, I have to admit I look jealous at characters like Kanbei, Motochika, Motonari, Tenkai while I have to look at Tsuruhime and an old guy seeing dead people (though I still somehow love him )I wasn´t sure about Shimazu, so I put him on the neutral side. He allways talked about young people surpassing him and that a new era has come, so I thought he was just there to represent "the old era" and wants to make sure it falls into the right hands...maybe someone can help me out there
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| Claus | Sun May 2, 2010 7:12 pm Post #5681 |
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NAh, theres no real need to read the manga, I've only read I think 3 parts, just because I thought they sounded interesting (Crazy Bloodlust Mitsunari caught my intrest straight away). @DK: The Uesugi are with the West, Though, I think Keiji is neutral because he goes between Maeda and Uesugi, Toshiie fights with the east because Matsu is captive. Shimazu is with the west also. I still think the East is still outnumbered... For now. KA-TO KA-TO KA-TO!@Ouelis: Aww drat, I thought I had that one. D: @Mooglez: Ichi is sorta by herself. She is neutral and because she is really powerful both sides want her to join them, and Tenkai keeps messing with her because he knows her past, and she doesn't since she lost her memory. |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Sun May 2, 2010 7:51 pm Post #5682 |
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yes i know about the main site sorry i had a major brain fart |
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| The Outsider | Sun May 2, 2010 7:58 pm Post #5683 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Why, do we keep getting signs that this is the final roster . Does nobody here have signs there will be anymore .EDIT: Actually, I think I can give myself so hope. Devilsking didn't know where to stick Yoshihiro right, I'm pretty certain he is on Mitsunari's team woop woop . Making your theory wrong, I think
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| Claus | Sun May 2, 2010 8:08 pm Post #5684 |
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Yep, as I said, Shimazu is with the east, and so is the Uesugi. And yeas, we have proof that there are more characters to come, we just don't know if they are playable. There is proof that Zabii is in, (we saw his troops in the skill vid) Otomo Sorin is in (His crest was on a flag in the skill vid) and The Kato (same as Sorin). Either Sorin or Zabii are playable since they would most likely fight on the same side (and represent the same area on the map) |
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| The Outsider | Sun May 2, 2010 8:15 pm Post #5685 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Thanks a lot . For christ's sake I hope Zabii isn't PC, out of all the choices I think he should be NPC, undoubtedly, he was like the plague to me in DK . I reckon Sorin Otomo will be NPC but if either had to be PC, it should be Sorin. Ha, Kato, why do I always forget about him . He should be PC right, and Masanori, oh, over-excitedness .
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| Balder | Sun May 2, 2010 8:32 pm Post #5686 |
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[expletive boat sounds]
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Devilsking, I got that info from the Koei Wikia. Very good wikia IMO (a sincere complement from a non-fan). In regards to his design and bearing in mind our discussion in the Myth or Truth topic, the inclusion of Mitsunari's "logo" is probably there give some shred of identification to the character. Let's face it, the angry lean swordmaster is hardly what we associate with someone History seems to portray as a scheming bureaucrat. That said, I'd say the Onimusha series offered the most "convincing" fantasy portrayal of him. In regards of the Clover Studios comment, don't get me wrong, I loves me my Okami and God Hand, excellent games (polar opposites in difficulty) that offered very unique experiences but financially speaking, Clover's offerings were hardly successful so it's understandable Capcom had to cut them off. Personally, I think they were already very generous in green-lighting Okami, which was a very personal project for Kamiya, rather than a commercial blockbuster. It was a shame that Capcom lost many talented people but some of their decisions or actions were midly questionable - Mikami's exclusivity deal with Nintendo was basically him setting up a pretext to leave the company and Kamiya was famous for taking ages to finish a game. But don't get me wrong, I wish Platinum Games nothing but success - the more competition in the business, the best for us consumers - and it seems Kamiya learned from the Okami experience as he's more focused in putting out commercially viable titles. Now in regards of Kobayashi, he's still in the company because as I said, he's in front of already established and well respected franchises, so he can "afford" to screw up. Clover on the other hand, focused on bringing new titles, thus, a greater risk of failure if the public didn't like them.
HIS AXE IS ON FIRE! HE KILLED YOUR PARENTS! SHOOT HIM!!! And judging by the roster so far...WEST SIDE! REPRESENT!
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| Manta Punk | Sun May 2, 2010 8:51 pm Post #5687 |
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Pssh, DK is a Eastern supporter? And I thought he had class. You may have your Engrish speaking dragon, your invincible gundams, deadly ninjas and stripped pantsu, DK, but it is also plauged with her. Now, let me ask you a question friend; Was it truely worth it? Ouelis, Akiro, Balder UNITE! It may be entertaining to scatter salt upon these slugs! Rot away here and surrender you flesh to the dead! Anyway, I never realised the East finally caught up in numbers, but looking back, it seems our last batch was full Eastern players (Kotarou, Ujimasa and Yoshiaki). It totally slipped my mind. Finally, some fair play. Also, it leaves whoever we'll get next up in the air. Come on Shikanosuke... And thanks for filling us in on the event NDY. Its just a shame there wasn't anything of interest... Also, cheers for the link DMT, those figures look pretty great. Motonari and Mitsunari are tempting me. but I'll see if they have him by the time of the games release. Although it seems they'll only manufacture the popular ones and poster boys Also, I'm pretty sure Yohihiro's running with the West. Tadakatsu being his "rival" and historically being with them are pretty strong hints. Edited by Manta Punk, Sun May 2, 2010 9:03 pm.
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| robotzombie | Sun May 2, 2010 8:54 pm Post #5688 |
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This literally can't be the final roster of characters. Kobayashi did very specifically say ___ty characters. That's different than "lots of characters" as it is a quantifiable measure. I don't think he would throw that one out there if it wasn't true. And since we only have 15 PCs so far, and 25 overall, either way he counts it we are not at the ___ty stage. That means, at worst, there would be 5 more NPCs resulting in 30 characters. At best we'd see 5 more PCs and 10 more NPCs for 40 total characters (Unlikely). I personally believe we will be seeing 4 more PCs and one more NPC (Zabii) |
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| Ouelis | Sun May 2, 2010 9:16 pm Post #5689 |
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I'll form THE TORSO! Seriously though, this whole 15 PC's, 10 NPC's thing really needs to stop. As has been said several times, latest by robotzombie, we already know for a fact that at least Zabii will be appearing in some way, shape or form. That coupled with the Amago representative ensures that there's in the very least some more characters on the horizon. I can't really say that the Otomo and the Kato are as sure to be included though. Zabii is a lock since we've seen his troops themselves, and the Amago rep not only for their banner, but for the confirmation of Gassan-Toda(was that what it was called?). The Otomo's banner is there obviously but I don't know. Somehow I just can't bring myself to count on it yet, the same way I have the Amago. I need a bit more first. Even more so with the Kato. After all, from what I understand it's not even clear if it IS the Kato banner in the background in the Oichi part of the skill trailer just that the 2ch users thought it was. Entire stupid joke! Zombie Nene knocks on Ishida's door. Ishida answers the door. Nene asks if Ishida can come out and play. Ishida answers that he has to ask his Mummy first. Badum-pish! I know. I told you it was stupid though .
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| Gakupo | Sun May 2, 2010 9:18 pm Post #5690 |
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@robotzombie: Technically we've already hit the '-ty' number of characters. TwenTY five .Between this Sorin and Zabii I'd much rather have Sorin. As funny as Zabii was and as monstrous as his Basara attack was, I found using him to be somewhat of a chore. Besides, this game could always use new faces players can use right? Now, since people are beginning to show their allegiances I'm officially joining Ouelis, Akiro, Balder and Manta Punk and joining the west. Yes, Katakura is on the East but I can't even use him so out of the characters we CAN use, the child of the sun is who I like next. Plus, Vergil-nari is leading the West so how can I lose? Except, of course, that history says I do...
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| Claus | Sun May 2, 2010 9:33 pm Post #5691 |
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Hmmm, Well, whoever Ichi is fighting, they're made sure it would be impossible to tell who it is, I can't even get a glimpse of the flag. It must be someone big to the storyline. The troops she was fighting we wearing rather dark clothes, it was a gloomy area, perhaps this is the 'Big Bad' some of you are hoping for? I still say Kiyomasa.
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| Kratos Aurion | Sun May 2, 2010 9:38 pm Post #5692 |
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Shimazu is with the West, Mitsunari is as well..I've found my allegiance |
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| Balder | Sun May 2, 2010 9:42 pm Post #5693 |
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Gakupo, Regarding Zabii, if he is playable, the new game system might make him a lot better to play as thanks to the dash feature. Assuming that, like me, your major qualm with the Jesuit is his walking speed, a dashing ability can seriously increase the fun-factor in using him. Alas, let's hope his quirk isn't NOT having a dash ability. Regarding Zabii-ness in general, and I know this is a really crazy theory but... We've seen his soldiers and we've seen his "crest" but what if he's not the one to appear but rather some other famous Jesuit, namely Luís Fróis? I mean, they could go for some politically incorrect humour and have him being physically identical to Zabii - basically "all foreigners look the same". Mind you, I'm not saying this with any expectation in mind. I've been "pitching" for Fróis since day one but this theory is NOT what I want for him. Ouelis, Great...now I have this image of a kid Mitsunari constantly nagging Yoshitsugu pulling his bandages and shouting incessantly "Mummy! Mummy! Mummy!"
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| Jim | Sun May 2, 2010 9:44 pm Post #5694 |
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I rarely ever post here but I just want to put in my 2 cents about how many characters will be in this game. The Kobayashi said that _ty characters, said that one LESS than 1/3 of the roster had been reveled when 12 characters were known, and finally said that their would be more characters than in SB2 heroes which had 31 characters. It seems very clear to me based on these facts that this game will have 40 characters how many of them are playable seems like the only question left. If anyone can see a legitimate flaw in my reasoning besides clamming that Koby is lying (which would be questionable) you guys should except the 40 character roster to. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun May 2, 2010 11:18 pm Post #5695 |
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He said there will be more characters than in HEROES? Oh wait...that might be true. Normal human reaction when he gets something he can´t play with - WTF? Koba´s reaction: I´m so awesome. So more characters doesn´t mean more PLAYABLE characters. For him a character is something that talks and stands on to feet. For most of us it´s someone you get to play as. So there might be a slight misunderstanding in terms of "character" and thus "number of HEROES". Well...if Hisahide is on the west side, I might join the losers of history. But for now, the only person I adore in the roster is Ieyasu, since he is finally badass. Also, though she´s a NPC, Matsu is "on the east side", so screw Tsuruhime, we have a badass female cooking for us, while you "Westies" have to eat some crappy Beetlejuice and probably Tears and Snot flavor since Hideaki allways starts to cry to something bad happens and hides in the pot. So food + women beats that emo bunch anyday. Hopes for NJB to stay loyal to Ieyasu and Masamune too... EDIT: I´ll make a topic if you´re on the east or west side, once we know the full roster. Since if the east gets a badass Shinkanosuke and maybe even Hisahide or Takatora then some might shift to the better side... So I´ll wait, so you don´t make a mistake. And BTW...Magoichi and the Saika faction are on the side of money...so...why do they follow the Tokugawa? I mean Toyotomi had more money than I can´t count, as well as the Mori. If they fight over someone like Oichi, why don´t they just give some money to the Saika? Or maybe there´s some with a lot of money on the eastern side...a lot of money and gold...hmmm...who could that be...
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| Gakupo | Mon May 3, 2010 12:04 am Post #5696 |
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HA! Shows what you know, he eventually joins the East anyway so YOU'LL have to eat Matsu's delicious cooking seasoned with Kobayakawa's 'additions'. ...Wait a minute. His defection is what caused the downfall of the West...
You mean the Tokugawa are FINALLY having a bidding war for some of Hondam's tech? Edit: @Balder Depends on how quick his dash is though too. His normal speed could be at a leisurely pace and then when he turns on the turbos it'd go into a brisk walk. I like this 'dash' feature though, eliminates the need for the Idaten Scroll. I dunno about the rest of you but I had it equipped all the time because everyone moved a bit too slow for my liking. Edited by Gakupo, Mon May 3, 2010 12:11 am.
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| Aznwarria | Mon May 3, 2010 12:37 am Post #5697 |
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wooow i was on vacation and im back WOW theres a lot of complaining going on, i got too tired to even read any of them so can anyone just summarize wats been happening in these past few days? So i saw the intro, Looks pretty good, and im glad that theres 2 new main char. throughout, instead of just masa/yuki (lol masayuki) all over again. So whats new? new op? is that it? and koba sucks? |
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| Jim | Mon May 3, 2010 12:45 am Post #5698 |
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@ DK True you wont be able to play as all 40, I think it is more likely to be a 20 20 or hopefully a 25 15 split but you can at least take heart in knowing that all the facts point to 15 more (characters) being announced in the next couple of months. Edited by Jim, Mon May 3, 2010 12:46 am.
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Mon May 3, 2010 1:43 am Post #5699 |
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Maggie, as with Keiji, is on the neutral side right? Like that pest Kobayakawa, the Maeda and Oichi... Anyway, I'm with the west for now. They're almost all emo, but I like Mitsunari heaps better than Ieyasu, such extreme good guys get on my nerves...plus there's Kurokan, my favorite new character yet. Golden Week ends on wednesday...I hope that means Famitsu comes out... |
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| Hondam | Mon May 3, 2010 3:02 am Post #5700 |
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Yeah, just about. Should be getting info by next week though.
This is nothing special. Koba has been pulling this sh*t since SB1. But some people are acting like this is somehow new and relevant to anything.
Haha. I'll admit I've thought about the being a staff member a couple times again, if only so I could try and erase the stain to my name when I was previously on it. Don't think some here would like me getting anywhere near the staff again though. And about East vs. West, I'll always be an Eastern supporter. Though the West does have some cool characters, East is where it's at. Also, I thought Kanbei was still on the east in this game? Wasn't Mitsunari the one that imprisoned him in his backstory? |
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