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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| RTsharpshooter | Mon May 10, 2010 12:21 am Post #5826 |
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I can see what you mean. Its not gonna be easy going back to so many NPCs when there was only one in Heroes (and even that was upsetting ).Even though quite a few characters had similar weapons, or even cloned S-strings, there was enough to make them feel unique and fresh. It would be quite nice if SB3 will have the DLC support that the newer Warriors games had. Didn't they get a ton of free missions and Character Creator stuff? It would be cool if we would be able to download new scenarios for free mode, for example. So long as they don't nip us in the butt and charge us for alternate costumes, etc. As for "Who isn't on yet but should be", I'm guessing, as everyone has mentioned, Takatora and Ukita should be top contenders. I would say Ankokuji Ekei, but he was confirmed as a generic, wasn't he... I'm not too knowledgable about Sekigahara, so could someone tell me if SW2 was fudging it a bit when Tachibana Ginchiyo was on the battlefield? Did the Tachibana even go to Sekigahara, or was she just there in SW2 because of Yoshihiro? I know Dosetsu was on the "most wanted list" for some. |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Mon May 10, 2010 3:13 am Post #5827 |
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Sengoku Period Fanboy (hehe)
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@RTsharpshooter: you got a good point there, going from one NPC to a bunch of them is really really disappointing IMO. and i got a question, some of the new characters share S-strings with previous characters? i didnt know that i just thought they had similar weapons
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| Claus | Mon May 10, 2010 3:30 am Post #5828 |
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Where the heckers did you get that? Watch the videos, now tell me, do they share the same move sets as previous characters? No. |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Mon May 10, 2010 4:33 am Post #5829 |
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i got it from what RTsharpshooter said in his post and i didnt say moveset i said s-string!! |
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| Ultimate Legend | Mon May 10, 2010 5:00 am Post #5830 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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He never said that at all. All he said were that some of the character in HEROES (NOT SB3) shared similar S-strings. You keep assuming without looking at the whole post. |
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| KanjibacK | Mon May 10, 2010 12:28 pm Post #5831 |
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Heck I'm not gonna buy this game now because I can't play the previous characters from the previous game which it's kinda annoying.
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| Hondam | Mon May 10, 2010 1:01 pm Post #5832 |
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^ Too bad. Gonna miss out on the best game in the series. Anyways, played the demo again today a couple times. First off, Mitsunari is a beast. Only way to describe him. Played at Mikatagahara and when Hondam first appears he's extremely tough, reminded me of him in SB1 at the first gate in the old Mikatagahara. And after you beat him in the first time, as you progress more in the stage he awakens again and flies off to a platform with electrical rods on each corner and powers them up, causing bolts of lightning energy to rain down on the stage as you keep going. I also noticed some new enemy types as well. One of the two I recall are foot soldiers carrying giant cannons that ignite them when you get close then blast away at you. The other type were these guys carrying flare-like weapons that chuck them at you and explode. Gunners also seem to shoot a lot faster too. After Mistu I tried Masamune, and he's been improved immensely. His entire moveset, specials included, make him amazing for constant comboing and attacks. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon May 10, 2010 1:44 pm Post #5833 |
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Best GAME. Not best BASARA. Cause the best BASARA is still Sengoku BASARA 2 Heroes. You can´t deny that fact Just wait for it to get cheaper or wait for the expansion, KanjibacK. As we´ve said a lot of times, this is the thing that´ll "complete" the package. Game + Fanstuff = Perfect. All we need is to wait and bear with the money milking attitude of CAPCOM and the "I´m god now watch me do stuff no one likes" attitude of Kobayashi. I know it´s hard, but hey, if you liked the series, you won´t give up on it, just because some holes think all they do is gold. Hondam, Did those flare guys have some burning pots on their backs and when you hit them they started burning themselves? Aren´t they in HEROES too? Now to the question of who should be in, well: Ukita Hideie - Why? He was second-in-command of the western army and was a most loyal Toyotomi supporter...not to mention he was said to have fought the hardest. Ii Naomasa - Why? (we´ve seen him as an generic NPC allready )He´s the damn "Red Devil". Has his awesome helmet and his red armor. He charged right into the battle as the first and thus "started" the Sekighara battle, pushing back the western army (at least at first) and giving a huge morale boost to the army of Ieyasu. Fukushima Masanori - Why? He wanted to be the one to charge first into the battle, but Naomasa wouldn´t hear of it. When Masanori saw that the "Red Devils" had allready taken action, he at once started out with his troops and attacked too. This encouraged the eastern army even more. Also he hold his ground against Ukita Hideie throughout the battle. Todo Takatora would also be a nice addition, as well as Hosokawa Tadaoki...meh. Well, let´s wait and see what tomorrow or at least this week offers us, in terms of playable characters.
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| The Outsider | Mon May 10, 2010 1:48 pm Post #5834 |
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For some reason JPN don't seem to like Naomasa Ii, despite him being on quite high demand from almost every 'Sengoku era' output, he's never involved .Can't wait until the next reveal . Actually I can, you never know what they gonna throw at you, can so see Itsuki popping up I cannot express how badly I believe she's in the game. Honda vid in 3 days , I think.
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| Balder | Mon May 10, 2010 2:02 pm Post #5835 |
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BROKEN TIER. They upped his combo reset timer to half an hour now? Honda sounds fearsome. He was already a nightmare in the Osaka Summer Campaign (only beat him once on Extreme, OHKO'ing him with Oni Shimazu) and that mission running the narrow path til Ieyasu...almost had a stroke when the bastard got back up again...and again...and again. That mission you described sounds like this last one. Probably the best is to follow Monty Python's King Arthur's advice - "RUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!" Anyway, I had no idea Hideie was that important to the Western army. That said, not including him sounds pretty foolish. I think him and Takatora would be good to balance their respective sides. A honorable guy on the West and a jerk in the East. Even though I'm aware it's pretty much asking for disappointments, I have some mild expectations for this week's update. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon May 10, 2010 2:36 pm Post #5836 |
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Hidie was a son of Ukita Naoie and was largely raised by Toyotomi Hideyoshi as something of a protegé. SamuraiWiki put it best by saying that. It´s the closest they could come to with a son of Toyotomi and the one who carries on his legacy, without hurting the "no one with the same surname"-rule. Also, Hideie, even though the eastern army fought hard (mainly thanks to the fact that most of the people fighting for the eastern army, didn´t really care for the eastern cause, they just wanted Mitsunari´s head and thus fought in what you might call a "rage state") he still fought hard and even pushed back a large part of the main eastern army (Masanori was part of it, as I said) as well as Yoshitsugu, who held his ground against the likes of Todo Takatora. So it would be unfair if Yoshitsugus in, but Hideie, the one who fought the hardest is simply left out. By the way, on a side note, Hideie and Yoshitsugu as well as the rest of the western army, were about to push back the enemy. Masanori and Takatora were about to lose...if it weren´t for their saviour Hideaki, I bet they would´ve been annihilated, even if the Kobayakawa army stood by, not helping either side. Hope I didn´t say something wrong Oh and Hondam...did Hondam use his BASARA attack on you? Were you able to block it? Cause Honda´s BASARA is a beast of an attack...and since they can use the BASARA attacks now...he seems even more "It´s-....It´s-....IT´S TADAKATSU!!!" than before Oh and what skills did you have with Mitsunari? I guess the "Cut Leap" and "Cut Dash", means one throw enemies into air and one to continue combos.
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| Fūma | Mon May 10, 2010 2:43 pm Post #5837 |
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No, Ginchiyo was not at Sekigahara historically. |
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| murakumo | Mon May 10, 2010 4:16 pm Post #5838 |
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^ However her husband Muneshige was there and did fight. Oh, I can't wait to see more gameplay. Masamune and Mitsunari sound sooooo awesome
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| DarkMantisTalon | Mon May 10, 2010 4:45 pm Post #5839 |
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sorry for my misunderstanding i apologize and hondam sounds more awesome than ever i really want to see the lightning rod attack it sound like his basara. so we should be getting leaks earliest tomorrow right? Edited by DarkMantisTalon, Mon May 10, 2010 4:55 pm.
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon May 10, 2010 6:31 pm Post #5840 |
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Well, Muneshige wasn´t personally at the battlefield of Sekigahara. Otsu Castle south-west of Lake Biwa was an important strategic point and it was held by Kyogoku Takatsugu for Ieyasu. Mori Motoyasu, Tsukushi Hirkado and Tachibana Muneshige took up positions with around 15,000 men to siege it. It started on 13th October 1600 and ended on the 21st October 1600...though Muneshige was sucessfull, the one who won in the end were Takatsugu and his men, since they kept those three commanders and their 15,000 away from the battle of Sekigahara. Though it´s probably nothing compared to the famous Ueda castle Siege where Sanada Masayuki stalled Tokugawa Hidetada (Ieyasu´s third son) and his army of 36,000 men long enough to prevent them from aiding his father in the battle of Sekigahara, since when he arrived the eastern army was allready mopping the floor with the scattered western army remnants and was viewing the heads of enemies. Though that´s not a reason for them not to not include the Tachibana in some form. (looks at Tsuruhime... ) Though I´d rather see Otomo Sorin and Yamanaka Shinkanosuke in for several reasons, as well as Todo Takatora, Ukita Hideie for their Sekigahara relevance, as well as Matsunaga Hisahide...he doesn´t need a reason HE`S FRICKIN HISAHIDE, the only one who was called the villain of the Sengoku period. Not just in the game...he was called a villain. He´s a real life Joker
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| Gakupo | Mon May 10, 2010 8:02 pm Post #5841 |
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This. IIRC, way earlier on in this thread there was talk of Basara attacks being blockable now. Since you're the only one here who's actually been able to play the game Hondam I would also like to know if that was actually true. Ah, and thanks for your impressions of the game
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| Hondam | Tue May 11, 2010 3:54 am Post #5842 |
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Ha. Nah, I can and will deny that fact after having played the game, demo or not. SB3 will be the best entry in the series. Beliedat. Koen- We need Mechashige in this game. If capcom added him in then I'd be in ****ing heaven. And about the basara attacks from enemies- both times they've been used against me I've never had a chance to block them so I dunno. However when I was fighting Hondam he activated his at one point but luckily we were fighting right under one of those locked entry gates and I didn't take the full force of it. Also interestingly enough, for some reason while I had been knocked in the air I managed to get off a few hits on him while he was using it and thus it stopped. Not sure if it was because they reduced his basara attack as an enemy cause of how overpowered it is or If you can stop enemy characters mid-way through. |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue May 11, 2010 5:00 am Post #5843 |
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so no scans? |
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| robotzombie | Tue May 11, 2010 5:04 am Post #5844 |
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You're about a day early, scans usually start floating around Tuesday night, eastern time. And Hondam, thank you for single handedly reviving the spirits of people here, thank god we finally have someone who has run through the game enough and with enough characters to give us the thumbs up. I always knew the gameplay was going to be there, I'm just glad to hear it from someone first hand. |
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| Ixbran | Tue May 11, 2010 5:34 am Post #5845 |
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what Robotzomie said thank you for reassuring us about the game X 3 i'm so exited for this game, i hope they release an Oichi gameplay video soon. I really wana see how her new gameplay style works : D |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue May 11, 2010 5:51 am Post #5846 |
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ohh soory i got confused |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Tue May 11, 2010 11:43 am Post #5847 |
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Hondam, that was AWESOME!!!!!!You tell him girl! Lol, just kidding. Well, if it really is that great, than I guess we got really don't have that much to worry about. MASAMUME IS IMPROVED IMMENSELY....Woah woah wee wow! Seriously though. I might have to try him before Mutsunari! NDY, you have the demo too, no? Why don't you comment some more on it? Just wondering..... Mitsunari is a beast, eh? Well, that is what I expected, considering he's got Vergil's moveset afterall. WAIT. Does this mean Koba didn't fail? I await necrois' response on that one. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue May 11, 2010 1:02 pm Post #5848 |
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NDY allready told us that the gameplay is good... The only problem we had was characters and fan service. And we´re still waiting for that. We don´t have that much time left, but it´s enough to make it happen, Koba. At least 4 more PCs, alternate costumes and different weapons. Let the magic flow...and if not, LBP2 got it´s debut trailer and that was enough to make me forget all the bad stuff that happened in SB3, since I know now, that there are game designers out there, who actually listen to the fans. Also, I found a LBP2 Preview on IGN...and it said something interesting...when I read that part, why did I think that Koba will like LBP2 more than anyone Getting down to the real nuts and bolts of NPC creation though, you've also got a new circuit board tool at your disposal. It's essentially the brain of your NPC – though it can be slapped on pretty much any other object in the game that needs AI. A NPC creator! Koba´s dreams came true! I bet the new Zelda trailer will do the same. So CAPCOM, what are you gonna give us? After announcing that you´d "casualize" the Marvel vs. CAPCOM 3 controlls...are you even listening to the fans? There´s one good game after another coming out this year...give us something epic. Something mind blowing. Give us something that´ll give us a fangasm. I´m won´t forget Nagamasa´s and Hideyoshi´s death that easily...but there are many ways to make up with the fans. Do the right thing Koba. Even though you´re a troll you made SB1-2-Heroes. EDIT: And yeah, Koba did fail. You can make a good game were graphics, sound, gameplay and fan service are top notch. If you love your creation, give a 100% and try to make a game for the fans...you´ll allways make a better game. Of course it´s to early to make a final statement since the last thing might still improve. But you can see that his 100% weren´t there Well, the news might come tomorrow...but we´ll see something. Really. Believe it. Necrosis, tell them what we mean with "gutted game"
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Tue May 11, 2010 1:03 pm Post #5849 |
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Unfortunately all game stores around my house don't have the Basara demo I could play a shitload of Bayonetta, but not SB3...Plus since Hondam is delivering, I thought I didn't need to look for it. By the way, I didn't know you were in Japan, man! We could meet up and have a drink or two someday! We're going to see good things this week...I want to hope so. Tonight the 2ch close watch will start.... |
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| Hondam | Tue May 11, 2010 1:49 pm Post #5850 |
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^ NDY- Yeah, I was gonna go to the last game event when you played the demo (was it Jump Fiesta?) at Makuhari but unfortunately I couldnt make it out. And what Ku do you live in? Close to tokyo? I'm in the roppongi area and go to Shibuya nearly everyday- if you ever go there they have the demo at the Labi Electronic store near Donki. xXBasara- Koba did not disappoint. I too await the response from geese. Ha. DK- Just to clarify: the "fans" you keep mentioning are not us. If any fanservice is going on, it's for the japanese fanbase and the japanese only. I've said it again and again- the series does not need the Western audience to survive. At all. For thie week's Famitsu- I'm praying we get Muneshige and Sorin, hopefully Zabbi as an NPC, and some confirmation of Kiyomasa. Add Hidiie and this game will be absolutely epic. More so than it is already. lxBran- I'm looking forward to Oichi's video as well, same with Kotaro. They both look absolutely beastly in this game. On a side note- I didn't notice before but elements are definitely still in the game. When choosing your character they show what element the posses. Mitsu is darkness and Ieyasu is light, which is really fitting. |
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