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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,103 Views)
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Devilsking,
Beat me to the Church scandal comment. Once again Japan proves that it has no clue of what's going on in the outside world, or on the contrary, it proves that it doesn't care for political correctness.
Now that you mentioned the art style, something I'd like to ask my fellow forum members - do you think that the game's overall aesthetics became incoherent in this sequel? I mean, the main roster have that certain anime/artsy look and in contrast the soldiers all look somewhat realistic. This is more apparent when you look at Muteki (refer to Maggie's gameplay video). What do you think?

BlackKite,
Thanks for the news. The possibility of 30+ characters is encouraging, even if knowing some will be NPCs.
At a current 28 count (Zabii included), that means we might have anything ranging from 3 to 11 more characters. 5 or 6 sounds reasonable. In the middle lies virtue, after all.
Let's hope LadyGetsuei was right with her bi-weekly update prediction.

Wurf,
Judging by the several screens posted on the official site and cutscene excerpts shown in trailers, I have very high hopes for the story mode.
From comical moments like Motonari slapping Kobayakawa silly to the darker and more serious scenes featuring Oichi or Yoshitsugu, I believe the story mode will definitely deliver. Regardless of the games' content, Capcom have always been good with cutscenes.
Alas, I am worried that western gamers won't be able to enjoy the game's original audio, thus it might ruin some of the impact in those scenes.


On a obvious note, for someone who wanted to make the series' more serious, this influx of ludicrous joke characters is making the absent ones pale in comparison. Yoshimoto's disco fever got nothing on Zabii tanks!
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good, 30 + characters...
i can see 5-6 more ppl,
and those might include 1-2 new characters.
i just cant wait for heroes....when they're all playable


not to be negative but what if they all aren't again except for like 3?
lol then wed have to wait for sb4...AGAIN
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ok im guessing 4-6 more characters would be quite reasonable

so we are suppose to get more info tomorrow ehh...

i predict its gonna be 2 PCs zabii and the amago rep(shikanosuke)


now i got two question's about otomo,he is riding a big tank so in the expansion how is he gonna play out with a big tank under him?, and my second question is where does the book he is holding come in?

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Wed May 12, 2010 8:04 pm
Wurf,
Judging by the several screens posted on the official site and cutscene excerpts shown in trailers, I have very high hopes for the story mode.
From comical moments like Motonari slapping Kobayakawa silly to the darker and more serious scenes featuring Oichi or Yoshitsugu, I believe the story mode will definitely deliver. Regardless of the games' content, Capcom have always been good with cutscenes.
Alas, I am worried that western gamers won't be able to enjoy the game's original audio, thus it might ruin some of the impact in those scenes.
I agree with you completely. All these people who are considering just waiting it out for the possibility of a SB3: Heroes don't seem to be interested in the new story mode at all...and I wonder why. Maybe it's because I'm a girl that I pay attention to these things, maybe it's because PLOT IN A HACK-AND-SLASH GAME LOL QUE, but if you just look at the apparent number and length of the cutscenes they've been able to show, and also the fact that they probably wouldn't axe Nagamasa, Hideyoshi, and all the other old favorites for nothing (well...can't put anything past Koba at this point, heh), it's pretty clear that they've got something worthwhile planned.
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Wed May 12, 2010 8:39 pm
ok im guessing 4-6 more characters would be quite reasonable

so we are suppose to get more info tomorrow ehh...

i predict its gonna be 2 PCs zabii and the amago rep(shikanosuke)
Uh, Nuuuuuu D:

Who told you that? The only info we'll be getting tomorrow is Tadakatsu's video, and I wouldn't exactly call that info. The most we MAY get is some extra info on the NPCs, but other than that we probably won't see anything else, its just a regular ol site update.
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Hope we'll be able to get hold of better quality scans soon, and have a good look at the characters. Until then, I'm not quite sure what to think. But thanks for all the hard work, as always BK :heart:

I agree with Hondam, there is no way that this game is ruined. There are so many good things, so many improvements, if you only focus on places where the quality is lacking then of course it's going to seem worse. I agree that characters are a huge part of the game, but they're not everything. Even if I have to wait for an extension to play the NPCs, by that time I can hope that Capcom will have got it's act together and given them all killer movesets. Until then, I can enjoy some great characters, stunning graphics, a beautiful soundtrack, kickass gameplay and a worthwhile story mode. ^_^

Take a step back, and you realise that we're not missing out on as much as we lead ourselves to believe. Remember, Hondam has actually played the demo, he should know. Those who are convinced the game is beyond help (and I'm sure there are very few, if any at all)either leave or go nurse your wounds in the complaints thread.
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The new story would interest me more if I wasn't already drowning in this battle (Sekigahara) from another game I shall not mention, and am already sick of it (I know, Sekigahara to the Japanese is like D-Day or WWII in general for America; it's really important to their history, and also very much used as far as media goes. I'll eventually get over it. XD)

Despite Sekigahara being shoved down my throat, I'm still interested enough to see how things will play out. I mean, I got to make sure the East kicks the West's ass, LIKE IT SHOULD (trufax) and give them my support.

I'm going to get the main game (duhhhhhhh), but I'm still want there to be an expansion. You know, so that I can actually PLAY the other characters that are in the game? You know... what you DO in a game. Which is to play it?

Ugh, no, complaining again! Bad me!

Anyways, Wurf, just because people say they're eagerly waiting the expansion doesn't always mean they won't give the main game a try.
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DarkMantisTalon
Wed May 12, 2010 8:39 pm
ok im guessing 4-6 more characters would be quite reasonable

so we are suppose to get more info tomorrow ehh...

i predict its gonna be 2 PCs zabii and the amago rep(shikanosuke)
Uh, Nuuuuuu D:

Who told you that? The only info we'll be getting tomorrow is Tadakatsu's video, and I wouldn't exactly call that info. The most we MAY get is some extra info on the NPCs, but other than that we probably won't see anything else, its just a regular ol site update.
NDY said Heh. More info to come tomorrow, peeps...


so thats what i assumed
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Oh man :facepalm:

NDY played the demo a long time before and look at his reaction:
They canīt be serious...

Why? Because he as well as I hoped for Sorin to be playable...or at least someone playable...

There are games out there which manage a good story and still keep all the stuff thatīs in there.
I mean Soul Calibur proves it. Itīs not a deep story, but SBs anime-cliche story isnīt Goethe either.

Why cut your limb to crawl up a mountain, when you can simply walk up it? Whatīs the point of it?

Itīs not a bad game, no one, donīt know were you all get that, is saying that. Itīs just that itīs not the BASARA game we wished for.
So dissapointment should be allowed, no?

Just imagine if we suddenly saw god and itīs some fad guy sitting on a couch, with a beer on his hairy belly, rubbing his toes and saying:"Yo, whatīs up?"
I bet a lot of us would waver a bit in their believe, since they imagined him a bit different. Thatīs the thing we humans do. Hope, believe and then being dissapointed.

And I donīt think that the japanese market is so horny about NPCs either, so forget the "japan lock-on system".

Characters are what made this series great. Not the gameplay. So why not combine the characters with great gameplay this time?

Meh. Weīre CAPCOM. We can milk without anyone saying anything.
We are awesome. :dance:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed May 12, 2010 8:57 pm.
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so Zabii/Q-Ball is returning?

o . o

xD

this actually makes me happy, he always was just too funny to take serious!

he reminds me of Zhang Jiao from DW.

"COME, LET US GO INTO AN ERA OF PEACE!"

you know of KOEI and Capcom got together to make a new WO game, with KOEI only doing Chinese characters, and Capcom doing the Japanese characters, ive got this feeling Zhang Jiao and Zabii would ether be the best of friends, since they are both followers of religions that state peace is their thing

or absolutely hate each other because their religious views would be too different for them to get along.
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As quirky and scary that he is, I would like for Zabii to return. Not Itsuki, but Zabii only. His return would be quite lovely.
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I am the exact opposite. I want Itsuki to return as PC waaaaaaay more than I do Zabii.
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Wed May 12, 2010 9:49 pm
As quirky and scary that he is, I would like for Zabii to return. Not Itsuki, but Zabii only. His return would be quite lovely.
HOPEFULLY Zabii has murdered that rodent plot wise, and can begin his spread of the Word of God. :dance:
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man when can someone get HQ scans i really want to get a closer look at the scan :/
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awwww, why not?

Itsuki/Puff is soo adorable, bubbly and cute!

: D

*loves cute things*

x 3

id love to see her and her Giant Mega Hammer come back!

X 3

she was my favorite character to play as in Devil Kings, next to Noh/Lady Butterfly.
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Wed May 12, 2010 9:56 pm
I am the exact opposite. I want Itsuki to return as PC waaaaaaay more than I do Zabii.
Same here.

Zabii is just so damn slow. Heīs the only character I wouldnīt mind seeing as an NPC...besides Tsuruhime :whistle:

If they gotta make a FICTIONAL character playable, even if they are based on some historic facts/persons, then it should be Itsuki.

But before that make Hisahide, Hideie and Shinkanosuke playable. :hmmm:

We wonīt see much tomorrow besides the profile update on the grand hall of NPCs + Tadakatsuīs video (even though itīll be awesome)...maybe some pictures would be neat of Tachainsaw and Tankman, ridin spinnaz :dance:

EDIT:
Akiro...chances are high that Zabii is playable...and you know what that means for Itsuki...

Once heīs playable, Itsuki has allmost a free ticket for the roster place with "Kobaīs more females phantasies" :ph43r:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed May 12, 2010 10:07 pm.
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Wed May 12, 2010 9:56 pm
man when can someone get HQ scans i really want to get a closer look at the scan :/
Wait five hours.

The site will update way before we get HQ scans.

ANyway, DIE ISTUKI DIE!!!!!!!!
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Wed May 12, 2010 8:47 pm
Anyways, Wurf, just because people say they're eagerly waiting the expansion doesn't always mean they won't give the main game a try.
I know, but IIRC, some people were flat-out saying that vanilla SB3 was going to be a waste of money and that we all should wait for Heroes. There was even a topic about it.

Well, I already stated my thoughts on Zabii becoming a PC, but I think Itsuki would be an even worse choice. I don't mind them keeping her in as a representative for the peasants, in fact, I can easily see that happening, but she's got too much in common with existing characters. Tsuruhime already fills the ingenue loli niche, and as for super-slow characters, Kanbei's our man. inb4 "Kanbei is dull," but I personally love him. He's my absolute favorite out of all the newcomers.
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Wed May 12, 2010 8:49 pm
NDY said Heh. More info to come tomorrow, peeps...


so thats what i assumed
NDY most likely meant he'd be checking out the issue and then filling us in on the specifics.

And BK, when you first said there was a possibility of combination Basara attacks I got pretty psyched. But what it actually turned out to be isn't so bad either and it'll probably cost some basara gauge to use it.

Waiting to see Hondam's video and what is up with Ieyasu holding his drill spear...
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Wed May 12, 2010 10:23 pm
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Wed May 12, 2010 8:49 pm
NDY said Heh. More info to come tomorrow, peeps...


so thats what i assumed
NDY most likely meant he'd be checking out the issue and then filling us in on the specifics.

And BK, when you first said there was a possibility of combination Basara attacks I got pretty psyched. But what it actually turned out to be isn't so bad either and it'll probably cost some basara gauge to use it.

Waiting to see Hondam's video and what is up with Ieyasu holding his drill spear...
ohhh ok now i understand

and im really eager to know why ieyasu is holding hondam's spear :/
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I know, but IIRC, some people were flat-out saying that vanilla SB3 was going to be a waste of money and that we all should wait for Heroes

Yep, I asked people what they want to do. And as you can see most of them said theyīll wait a bit or buy it.

Oh, thanks for reminding me:
The only thing keeping me from doing so is the hope of a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally epic version of Mogami Yoshiaki

Hehehe...and look what we got. A NPC. Oh man, now dissapointment comes back.

Hisahide is not a NPC, Hisahide is not a NPC, Hisahide is not a NPC, Hisahide is not a NPC, Hisahide is not a NPC, Hisahide is not a NPC...okay...now itīs better.

Donīt dig up dark ages...itīll only hurt more :ph43r:

As for Kanbei being the slow-mo champion, thatīs not reason to hold Zabii back, at least in the eyes of Kobayashi and the crew.

I mean in each fighting game, there are the speedos, the tricksters, the slow-break-bears and the all-rounders.

And thereīs most of the time more than one. Though we allready have Tadakastu, Yoshihiro and Kanbei in the slow but strong department, but I think he has his chances since:

A) Hideaki and Tenkai were presented in the same batch as NPCs, Sorin is now shown as an NPC without his..."partner", probably hinting that Zabii is the playable of that faction

Actually thatīs the only thing hinting for him to be playable, but since a lot of people would be happy to play as Zabii while Kojuuro and some other are NPCs, my guess is on Zabii is playable :dance:

EDIT:

Counting on you, Jsun, NDY, for Hondaīs video :bowdown:

To say it in the words of Tadakatsu:.....!!!
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed May 12, 2010 11:19 pm.
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In real life, Sorin did follow Francis Xavier and his life was affected greatly by his teachings right? if so, then it makes perfect sense for him being on the Zabii side, but what about Muneshige? does he have anything to do with francis xavier?

oh, and btw, since both sorin and muneshige r npc, and they both represent zabii kinda, i guess that automatically confirms zabii as playable. Since koba's iron rule was only one playable character per clan/group right? soo sorin and muneshige r out, zabii is playable?

if that happens...i swear...

ugh god not that i dont like him,
but i would give anything to play as muneshige and sorin...
and then all we get is a preacher who we've had in the past games?
let us play the freaking new characters!

thats why they're new!

so i guess Zabii is mostly likely PC...great.
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BUT WAIT.

If Otomi is on Zabii's side, won't that give Zabii a bigger chance of being an evil NPC? You know, the "one PC per clan" rule. Then again, they're not really part of the same clan now, are they?

I want Zabii for the humor. Plain and simple. There are way too many serious peeps on the PC side of this game.
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Yeah, Tsuruhime is the only joke for now.

And itīs not a funny one, since itīs a straight Itsuki rip-off just in pink and without pedoldiers. Without them itīs only half the fun :mellow:

Again before Zabii: Hisahide, Shinkanosuke and Hideie.

Though as some have said, they might keep the big gunz for the grande finale. :ph43r:

...wait...Otomo is on Zabiiīs side, but isnīt playable. So Zabii would represent the Otomo clan and the..."Zabii clan"...just like Keiji represents the Uesugi. :whistle:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed May 12, 2010 11:33 pm.
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Is there any reason why the Ginchiyo possibility is out of the question? I mean my thoughts when I hear this update is that Zabii is probably dead and they are pushing forward his agenda and remembering him. It would be kinda weird if one of the characters used a Zabii-head tank as a weapon, and yet Zabii himself was a playable character in the game.

That would mean they would have an opening for a playable character, and since Koba wanted females, why wouldn't Ginchiyo fit? I mean they said the no same surname thing, but maybe that means just in terms of playable characters? I mean both of the Maeda's are in the game...
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