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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun May 16, 2010 9:25 pm Post #6176 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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Well. Iīm a total NO THANK YOU Zabii supporter. Zabii is a slow character and normally, I wouldnīt mind having some slow characters in it. But this time, itīs even more about fast paced combo gameplay...of course heīll get some improvements, but as we know, they stick to the "donīt fix whatīs not broken"-formula. He has those double cannons since SB1 so itīs safe to assume he has them again so no Ieyasu/Oichi makeover. So my hopes for him to suddenly get "really good" are close to -273C°. Also, again, with the limited roster, he just sticks out. In a over 20 or even close to 30 characters, if 2 or 3 are just there for fun or at least the gameplay gets into the backround for the sake of his character/jokes/animations, ok. We had Itsuki, Zabii and for some Ujimasa for that. (donīt start...I meant Itsuki, because some of her moves could be a lot better and she could be a lot faster, but isnīt for the "loli girl"-jokes, so sheīs small and canīt handle the hammer very well ), Zabii has a lot of slow , unnecessary moves/animations, but those are what make him funny.Take that away and itīs not Zabii and in that case funny anymore. Same as Ujimasa. He should keep the "old man stand" and get a speed up once the Moxa-bonus kicks in. Of course it somehow lowers the gameplay for some, but hell, they are joke characters, take away those jokes/animations and they are some boring/silly designed characters that serve absolutely not purpose. Thatīs why I say, keep the joke characters for later, when itīs all about the fun and not about the story. As we all know, allmost all the joke characters or those who had comedy stories (Toshiie, Matsu, Ujimasa, Hideaki, Yoshiaki, Sorin, Kasuga, etc.) are unplayable and that hints that they keep them for the expansion, since it wonīt be THAT serious anymore, once the story has been told. We can be sure weīll see some stories, but in the style of "Yukimuraīs training"-Gaiden, so those character fit in perfectly. Give us some serious, cool characters for now and give us the fun characters later. Those characters are there for the LOLs and itīs enough if they bring the LOLs in their stages or some story cutscenes. After so much unplayable awesomeness, keep the LOLs were they belong, for now
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| Ouelis | Sun May 16, 2010 10:31 pm Post #6177 |
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The Smooth Sound of the Ocean
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Fair enough. I've been thinking a bit more about who we might see in the next PC slot, and even though I had originally thought it would be Zabii I'm starting to doubt that right now. I can't really put my finger on why though... If he were to make an appearance now, it makes more sense to me that he would be a NPC. Had he been a PC it would have made more sense to me for him to be revealed with Sorin and Shiggy. Perhaps they felt three NPC's at once would be a bit overkill? Can't really apply normal logic to the process though, as we've already experienced a couple of times now. I'm going to stick to my theory that Zabii is in fact a transformer and is the Zabii-tank himself. |
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| necrosis | Sun May 16, 2010 10:38 pm Post #6178 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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TRANS-FORMERS. JESUITS IN DISGUISE. War for Kyushutron begins NOW! We must defeat Shimazutron at all costs. Well, this week went by rather quickly, almost time for another set of ups and downs with Famitsu scans. Colour me excited. About Sorin's portrayal: I like it. Any time he's not an old bald man like IRL, I like, because the Old Bald Man wasn't the greatest chap in the country. |
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| ChibiGingi | Sun May 16, 2010 11:00 pm Post #6179 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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I support Zabii, though I wouldn't be too upset if they gave his PC slot to another new, different character. Maybe something with breasts, like Koba promised? |
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| RTsharpshooter | Sun May 16, 2010 11:25 pm Post #6180 |
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Pay close attention! This is justice REBORN!
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I'm thinking after you kill Sorin, the tank breaks open, revealing Zabii in a Wizard of Oz fashion. "Pay no attention to the overwieght missionary operating the pedals!" ![]() That is, if he could actually fit inside the shrunken down version! As for the next character revealed, I'm thinking it'll be that Amago rep that has been hinted a couple times. Or maybe whoever it is that belongs to that sand-swept stage that Yoshihiro was fighitng on in the skill video. |
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| Kratos Aurion | Sun May 16, 2010 11:51 pm Post #6181 |
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MOAR
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^ This. Also, what screens were an Amago clan flag or district shown on? It's been so long, I've forgotten. |
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| HokutoNoBen | Mon May 17, 2010 12:15 am Post #6182 |
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Supreme Warrior-Scholar
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I may have missed the festivities but....a happy belated b-day to the two B-day-nins around here. |
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| RTsharpshooter | Mon May 17, 2010 1:29 am Post #6183 |
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Can't say for certain, but I believe it was some 2ch users that said the Amago flag has appeared in the skills trailer. I'm guessing it was whoever either Yoshihiro or Oichi were fighting. Also because someone mentioned a while back that one of the confirmed stages (that I guess we have no screens of yet) is a castle that belonged to the Amago clan. I know little of the Amago to begin with, so I can't really remember the specifics. Not to mess with anyone's predicted rosters listings, but what do you think the chances are that we'll see a new (100%) fictional character? As it stands, Kasuga is the only one. If Itsuki doesn't return she will kind of stick out (even though the Uesugi ninja troop was real). Naturally, I'd rather see existing historical figures having representation, but its something that hasn't recieved...well, any attention on this thread, as far as I think I've seen. |
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| wodash | Mon May 17, 2010 1:39 am Post #6184 |
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undefeated in all directions
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oh man,i can't believe i'm late to give my regards to the happy coup~err B-day members anyways,happy birthday NDY and wurz!,i may not have the time to threaten nobunaga or the whole SB cast with a sekiha tenkyoken so that they're the ones that give you guys the congrats AND make two cakes,but i got the next best thing! Spoiler: click to toggle i bake them myself,enjoy!,its enough for everyone! as for the zabii thing,i don't think he got much of a downside as a character gameplay wise,the only thing that is slow is his jiggy running speed,his skills fits perfectly with it,his bazooka and S string provides enough speed to gain respectable combo amount unlike mr.one hit death chesto which practically dying for a new method to score high combos and to augment its slowness he also get the guardian angel skill which fellow slow strider mitsukai also possesses which gives enough invulnerability to gain a lot of combos uninterrupted so yeah,i can't see what's so bad about him,except for his design which casual non fans will usually dismiss as ugly/uncool/unfit for SB.......... Edited by wodash, Mon May 17, 2010 1:47 am.
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| Ultimate Legend | Mon May 17, 2010 2:41 am Post #6185 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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Happy late birthday to NDY and Wurf! And Zabii was top tier in SB1 (Along with Kenshin, Yukimura and Mitsuhide) and he's still pretty good in SB2 too. Just a little slow is all. |
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| Nghet | Mon May 17, 2010 3:15 am Post #6186 |
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Duhwee hearts Mikey <3 <3 <3
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One thing I never really understand is why Mitsuhide in tier list I never played SB1 and leveled him to like 28 in SB So never understand his full power |
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| Ultimate Legend | Mon May 17, 2010 3:20 am Post #6187 |
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SB1 = Skulls plus 400% attack up items SB2 = His last skill though it can be inconsistent. |
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| DarkDante | Mon May 17, 2010 3:41 am Post #6188 |
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A new power is rising
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Holy Crap! I know I'm a week later but damn Muneshige looks incredible! What's more manly than a chainsaw?? TWO chainsaws!! Finally a worthy rival for Hondam and Yoshihiro better watch out he's no longer the top dog on Kyushu. Thank you Koba for partially restoring my faith in humanity and badass characters. Sorin doesn't look half bad either, like something out of Shin Megami Tensai series, I think I'm going to love the Otomo.
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Mon May 17, 2010 1:13 pm Post #6189 |
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Awesome!
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*Intro of Blazing Transfer Studen Playing in the background of a blazing sun with me running and leaving a trail of fire while screaming.* Yes,I'm back...*checks body*,and whole still. Spoiler: click to toggle To sum it up : I'm still safe,though a tragedy has occured in the country but the ight is still on.While I'm going to be busy,I shall be here sometimes. And NDY is celebrating today?Happy birthday my friend.Lots of wishes.You too Wurf. And cookies to you.Now onto the discussion...not much to say since I was hardly here...but I did see the video and the new characters and I have to say I'm impressed.Despite them being NPCS they were nice.ANd we will have Keiji by the 20th?Sweet. Hope that at least Muneshige goes PC at the Heroes expansion of the two new. Oh god,I have to run...Zabiitron is here. Over and out.PS : I'm still human...still.[Puts mask on,jumps of the building and starts swinging like Tarzan but instead of vines with web threads.]
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| The Outsider | Mon May 17, 2010 2:56 pm Post #6190 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Sorin appears to be the most divided character on opinion thus far, with a majority liking Muneshige. I'm mixed on Sorin in all honesty, despite my great appeal to Muneshige, Sorin screams to me that he could be a potential very annoying character. I hope when he's made PC in the future (hoping), he won't be using the Zabii tank, but something else, hell, even that book would make me happy, casting spells and shizz, woop-woop .
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| Balder | Mon May 17, 2010 4:17 pm Post #6191 |
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[expletive boat sounds]
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I have to disagree there. You must understand that not all characters are meant to be played the same way. Yoshihiro's speciality is not combos but dispatching enemies quickly. It's like wanting Potemkin to be a high-speed multi hitter like Chipp. I am not one to sow discord so I hope you understand my little outburst of irony, since about a couple of months ago it was none other than you, noble Sir, that had me internetically murderized for having suggested that Chesto could use one or two more combo friendly skills. And thanks for baking cookies for everyone, though I think the ladies should stay clear of them as they are quite high on testosterone. Mibu Kyoshiro, Glad to hear you're OK. STICK IT TO THE MAN! |
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Mon May 17, 2010 5:01 pm Post #6192 |
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Awesome!
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^Thanks Balder. It's great to be back with you guys. Also it's nice to see more Guilty Gear fans in here. And you guys,maybe I can't give you super manly cookies like wodash,but I can offer you hotblooded ones...or charred ones...depends on your point of view. Ps : Nice new avatar.Who is he?By the way,was your previous avatar the final boss from Onimusha : Dawn of Dreams while wearing his white costume and white trousers? |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon May 17, 2010 5:50 pm Post #6193 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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Glad youīre back! Now, see Koba, so many birthdays and happy returns, everyone has their dissapointments in controll for now, itīs time for something good to happen and celebrate that....... Donīt ruin it Nah, not expecting anything grand this week, though I would like to see Zabii back as a NPC (would be strange having all those PCs revealed and then after so much time, Zabii is there to save the day? Really? Zabii? ) and even more some neat game infos.You know like weapons, items, costumes, MODES, the basic stuff a game mostly consists off I really want to know if they kept the conquest mode...also the tournament mode...I liked it, reminded me of the dark realm in Onimusha Dawn of Dreams...especially since you were able to play it Co-op in HEROES. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Mon May 17, 2010 6:01 pm.
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| The Outsider | Mon May 17, 2010 5:59 pm Post #6194 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Nice to see somebody wanting the same as I .
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| BlackKite | Mon May 17, 2010 6:12 pm Post #6195 |
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長宗我部菜々
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Well, finally got a chance to post. So.... Happy belated birthday to NDY and Wurz. ![]() Nice to hear you're alright, Mibu. ![]() And congrats to Hondam for being appointed as this forum's mod. ![]() Anyway, I kinda doubt there will be new SB3 info this week. If anything, I'm thinking the interval for this game's info batches will be bi-weekly just like most other games, or tri-weekly if we're unlucky. |
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| The Outsider | Mon May 17, 2010 6:16 pm Post #6196 |
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The Demon's Rival
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I never got a Happy Birthday 3 weeks a go .And I can't believe they're really gonna leave us hanging after revealing two NPC's last week, what kind of company gets fans hopes up only to show people what they cannot have, without even a speckle/taste of what they can have, despite how small or disappointing it could be (e.g. Zabii) .
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Mon May 17, 2010 6:40 pm Post #6197 |
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Awesome!
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^Just by saying the truth,I will become a ballsbreaker[yes the truth hurts that much unfortunately] : Namdai[apart from Banpresto and Cyberconnect2] and Capcom's Koba studios...among other Capcom studios.[Also coughstupidCEOScoughletthewillingteamsandstudiosdotheirproperworksincetheycareaboutthefanscough]. And yup,that's the answer. @BlackKite : Thanks very much. And we might be unlucky and get info biweekly...for the time being though we have a vid waiting next week.[That's something.] PS : Congratulations Hondam. |
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| Ouelis | Mon May 17, 2010 6:53 pm Post #6198 |
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You think so BK? As far as I can remember, when there hasn't been an update scheduled in the character page we've gotten new information even if there was a video scheduled for that day. It may just be me, but I can't really recall if there's been a week without anything at all in the character section. You might be right of course, but personally I think we'll be getting more info in the next couple of days. Good to see you're alright Mibu. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon May 17, 2010 7:02 pm Post #6199 |
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Hoooo? Hondam is the new chief in town? Congrats then. So, Koba, nuff reason yet to give us something good? Oh and just a random question, regarding the demo. They made it playable now at some events, gave playable version to stores...so...do other japanese companies stuff like that? Do they even release demos on the PSN? As far as I know, Yakuza 3 was a pretty big deal back then, like this was the first demo EVER released on PSN. It seemed, the demo got more attention than the game itself So...is it unusual to have a demo of a game over there? Since, no demo for a game over here is practically suicide, especially for "new" games. All those PSN games and other games I see there that donīt have a demo...I donīt even see them
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Mon May 17, 2010 7:08 pm Post #6200 |
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Awesome!
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@Ouelis : Thanks my friend. Glad to be back and see you to. As for the info...how much more can we get from the site?Might be me pulling stuff from my brain,but I figure that gameplay mechanisms and weapon/conquest etc related stuff will be revealed through magazine shots[famitsu etc] or some other way[kotaku/siliconera etc.]. But DK,taking to Koba and Namdai,is like talking to a wall[Shut up Squall...ok,sorry buddy].Threatening effectivelly[I'll gladly help] might do something... For demos : usually it's PSP that gets the most demos,I have observed that mainly D3 and Sega give away demos and Koei starts following this trend.Other than that...If anyone wants to get demos that are given free from the sites themselves a good place would be pspdemocenter.com.For Ps3 demos though...not so sure. Edited by Mibu Kyoshiro, Mon May 17, 2010 7:11 pm.
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