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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Tue May 18, 2010 8:12 pm Post #6251 |
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Sengoku Period Fanboy (hehe)
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hmmm this seems pretty cool IMO, i think its gonna be like the bodygaurd system in SW2XL which i liked so this is a plus for me, i just hope there not all jokes and one hit kills like kanetsuga. but are we supposed to get any scans tonight? EDIT: i take the are we getting scans tonight thing back its already confirmed
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| necrosis | Tue May 18, 2010 9:13 pm Post #6252 |
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I think some of you are confused. Satake Yoshihide isn't the same Satake from Hitachi. Yoshihide was a man who served Chosokabe Motochika and was skilled in archery. Apart from the name, I don't think he has any connection to Satake Yoshishige or any of those men of the North. : P |
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| Claus | Tue May 18, 2010 9:22 pm Post #6253 |
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Come on people, these guys aren't even a part of the Sekigahara conflict, most of us haven't even heard of them, we already knew Kanetsugu was not playable, and still you complain. Aside from Kanetsugu (who we've known is unplayable from way back when) are any of you missing out on a character you wanted in? I'm guessing not. At least you can now have Kanetsugu follow you around, thats an improvement. I think this could set up candidates for future NPCs in the next title. Plus, having an Amago as a Bodygaurd actually increases the chance of a Playable Amago character despite what you may think. And why did some of you think that all of the bodygaurds would be OHKO guys? Think about it for a second. Does that seem likely?Anyway, I think the Buddy system sounds pretty cool. I wouldn't mind having a little Kanetsugu follow me around, especially if I were Kenshin, that would be beyond awesome. But, thats not going to happen. D: |
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| Aznwarria | Tue May 18, 2010 9:45 pm Post #6254 |
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I agree. Id actually like having more bodyguards, thats a little alike to the SW series but its cool. Besides in the past games the allies basically did absolutely NOTHING... they just follow you around. hopefully this time these UNPCS can actually fight alongside you. Its not that i dont like this new system, i do. Its cool having bodyguards, so ur not alone most of the time. Its just that i dont want these important ppl to be wasted like the amago clan, satake, maybe. but this surely doesn't mean that these clans wont have a PC....so im still looking forward to this weeks update. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Tue May 18, 2010 10:34 pm Post #6255 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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I think we have some people here who have multiple personalities. At first they talk like thatīs lame and when the situation escalates itīs suddenly super and all cool. Itīs a useless addition, for a lot of us. Remember someone asked if the allies/NPCs should actually do something? Allmost everyone of us said no. Why would I want a "buddy" when I donīt want the other NPCs to go into battle with me? Also, itīs not sure, if they really are "bodyguards". Maybe they are even more useless "help characters", like in Dragonball Z Burst Limit or Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm/Super Smash Bros Brawl. For example, if you have Kanetsugu with you and call him up he A) Like Dragonball, has some sort of effect that boosts your stats or makes you "MUTEKI" for the short amount of time or B) Like Naruto/Brawl he comes and assits you like charging at the enemy, screaming MUTEKI, beating some guys up and then be defeated and say his wonderfull one-liner. At least they wouldnīt be in the way, that way. |
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| robotzombie | Tue May 18, 2010 10:42 pm Post #6256 |
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Since no one has responded to you yet, the reason is because the UK official website for this game says "more than 15 unique, playable samurai". Since we already have 15, there has to be at least one more person. And jeez, my internet crapped out on me yesterday and I missed all this crazy VA leak/bodyguard talk. To be honest, I don't care for the idea at all in terms of these characters being counted as part of the "roster". That would annoy me. But just in terms of a gameplay addition, I'm all for it. Especially if they have unique abilities and you can upgrade them, that would be cool. However, even if that list is definitely true, ALL the characters may not be part of that bodyguard system. The next reveal may show this bodyguard system AS WELL as one or two new characters. But I hope we'll see tonight one way or another. PS - Alan Wake is awesome |
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| Aznwarria | Tue May 18, 2010 10:51 pm Post #6257 |
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lol sorry if i was being a lil bit bipolar there. Yeah at first i was like wha? but then after i thought about it, its pretty ok in fact. but now, im like eh whatever lol. im switching moods today idk why maybe its cuz im extremely tired. but for now im gonna stick with the 'i dont really care' personality. |
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| SRS | Tue May 18, 2010 11:06 pm Post #6258 |
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I really don't understand you guys sometimes. We just got a possible confirmation of a new system in the game that gives us a bunch more characters, and yet everyone is complaining and actually saying they DON'T want it? While I hate what Koba's been doing with characters so far, it seems like you guys will rip him a new one no matter what he does. These six guys being Supports is a great idea, as it not only gives representation to clans that aren't important enough to be playable, but also opens the door for guys related to them that ARE important enough to be playable. Amago Haruhisa = The second great Amago daimyo(behind his grampa Tsunehisa,) the Amago was at the peak of their power during his rule. Yamanaka Shikanosuke began his service under Haruhisa, however during a battle with Mouri Motonari, Haruhisa collapsed and died suddenly; theories include him being poisoned as a scheme by Motonari, or by his wife, the daughter of Amago Kunihisa whom had been executed by Haruhisa previously. Haruhisa's inclusion as a Support gives very strong chances to Shikanosuke being in the game as a PC. Muteki = No explanation needed. Nambu Harumasa = The most powerful daimyo in Mutsu, the northern-most region of Japan(previously, this region is represented in Basara series by Itsuki,) and a distant relative of Shingen's branch of the Takeda clan. Fought with the Anto, Shiba, and I believe the Date. Suffered the rebellion of Tsugaru Tamenobu, another big name in the north. His son-in-law, Kunohe Masazane, led the final rebellion put down by Hideyoshi before all of Japan was under Toyotomi rule. Anegakoji Yoritsuna = Daimyo of Hida, a region located between Mino and Ettchu. Allied with the Uesugi, then later the Oda, but rose up against Hideyoshi after Honnoji and was put down. Probably the least relevant of the six. Utsunomiya Hirotsuna = Brother-in-law of Satake Yoshishige and daimyo of Shimotsuke. Was driven out of his land at a young age by treacherous retainers. Married Yoshishige's sister and came back with Satake's support to regain control in his territory of Shimotsuke. Allied with both Uesugi and Satake and fought the Hojo. His sons became Tokugawa retainers. Gives chances to Satake Yoshishige/Yoshinobu being playable. Edit: Oh yeah, with Amago Haruhisa being chosen over Yoshihisa or Katsuhisa, then I withdraw my doubts on Ukita inclusion since I think this means for sure that Gassantoda will be the Amago stage. Edited by SRS, Wed May 19, 2010 5:08 am.
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| robotzombie | Tue May 18, 2010 11:34 pm Post #6259 |
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^The only problem I seem to have Seraphil, is if they are nothing more than glorified generics, seeing as how they are being lumped together with Muteki. If that is the case, then I don't think they should be counted as part of the "cast" i.e. "tons of new characters" "over 30 characters" etc. etc. Edit: I guess you don't understand the concept of "if", as in, if that is the case, that is disappointing, if it isn't then it is a cool gameplay addition, which I've already stated in my previous post. Edited by robotzombie, Tue May 18, 2010 11:38 pm.
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| SRS | Tue May 18, 2010 11:35 pm Post #6260 |
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The only people counting them as part of the "over 30 characters" are you guys.
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| necrosis | Tue May 18, 2010 11:52 pm Post #6261 |
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I agree that having bodyguards/strikers/whatever is not a bad idea. I was only against these guys when it was thought they were normal NPCs. OK, I still think Nambu sucks and the other two guys are mooks, but w/e. Bodyguards/strikers/whatever these will be aren't meant to be super big name guys. New gameplay elements to prove me wrong is a good thing. Its not worth crying over. Gee where's our tyrant to come moderate everyone complaining? Basara section: "waaaah we whine about anything and everything"
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed May 19, 2010 12:08 am Post #6262 |
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No one says it sucks. I just said itīs pointless. Never needed help, in a game, thatīs about erasing a whole army as stylish as possible with one character. Why now? Itīs like Tekken 6 "console specific" story mode. Itīs a neat gimmick that no one really needed. They shouldīve concentrated on some other areas or invest their work in a new character. Really...instead of thinking about a "bodyguard" system...why not put some time in inventing some new enemies or ADD PLAYABLE CHARACTERS? The only thing that makes that bodyguard crap interesting is the fact that we might be able to get some backup in form of the Go hon Yari and the Miyoshi Death Trio. God, I hope they are back. We have seen 11 stages so far and non of them featured them, neither the BASARA AT-AT + the bomb/fire version of it, also no Oni-Warriors or some ninja squads as well as suicide runners. I really hope they all return. Honda, you said you fought those fire throwing guys, right? Did you encounter anyone of the "old enemy cast" besides the normal grunts? Also necrosis-sensei, it would be boring if no one whines about it. Admit it. Koba wouldnīt feel satisfied if no one were dissapointed that he adds so much stuff but leaves out so much old good stuff in form of playable characters. Itīs give and take. Right, Koba? EDIT: Aznwarria, it takes some time...it could be 1 hour or 24. Weīll get something, thatīs for sure. As long as thereīs some candy hidden in this useless feature, itīll be news worth the wait. Like explaining new enemy types and showing them, not allways NPCs and other stuff. Afterall one of the good points in BASARA were the different enemy types, not just sword, spear, archer, gunner like in other games Who doesnīt love the Serious Sam styled suicide-runners with their backpack-bomb? Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed May 19, 2010 12:18 am.
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| Aznwarria | Wed May 19, 2010 12:12 am Post #6263 |
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So are we getting scans/info tonight? maybe in like...an hour? please? |
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| necrosis | Wed May 19, 2010 12:15 am Post #6264 |
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I see you're complaining about something we STILL don't have any concrete details on. Sit back and wait a bit, junior. For all you know this could turn out very cool. An hour? Don't kid yourself. It'll be a while longer for magical scans to show up.
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| SRS | Wed May 19, 2010 12:18 am Post #6265 |
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IF we get something tonight, it'll be another 6 or so hours from now at best. |
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| LordKarasuman | Wed May 19, 2010 12:29 am Post #6266 |
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Uggggh, a bodyguard system? Let's hope it's not like that, but if it is... The cynical side of me thinks there are two ways they'll go about this, neither of which I particularly appreciate. Either you can level them up, give them different stats, customize their appearance slightly, etcetera and so forth only to find they are completely worthless at helping you... ... Or they actually end up being critical at higher difficulties, forcing you to use strategery involving an AI-controlled teammate, which is extremely hard for any game to get right. More likely it'll just end up being a frustrating and stupid addition. The more optimistic side of me hopes that they can be useful-- but not critical-- to keep alive. Maybe you can do a Double Basara attack with them. Maybe they'll use the 2P system in SB2H and if they get taken down, you can just hang around 'em to revive them (like a surrogate second player). These would be pretty cool, in spite of the whole "This is a one man army thing". ... But the optimism is running thin in me at this point.
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| Ultimate Legend | Wed May 19, 2010 1:24 am Post #6267 |
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That would be me. On another topic though, I don't think Matsunaga will be a PC. It seems they might just keep him as the "Badass NPC" guy. I'm really hoping he is playable, but it doesn't seem very likely at the moment. On a side note, he was the only character in SB2H to have 3 skills equipped. |
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| The Outsider | Wed May 19, 2010 1:40 am Post #6268 |
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Everybody here appears to just be dropping digs about people and has gone all negative again, I like to keep my posts short to stop this erupting. At the end of the day, I'm beginning to care much less, whatever happens happens, I'll analyse the reveal once it happens from now . EDIT: Speaking about the Satake Yoshihide fella, If he is in the game he'll highly likely be an NPC, I mean, all of the officers who support clan leaders have become unplayable e.g. Kojuuro, Sasuke, Kasuga. The only thing that could possibly suggest he's PC is that he's an archer, and with the new Tsuruhime joining the series and being obsessed with Motochika, that Tsuru and Satake Yoshihide could have a possible rivalry. Edited by The Outsider, Wed May 19, 2010 1:44 am.
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| DarkMantisTalon | Wed May 19, 2010 1:41 am Post #6269 |
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well im gonna be on stand-by for some scans soo we can finally see if this bodyguard system is real. |
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| ~in3vitableTIMING~ | Wed May 19, 2010 1:45 am Post #6270 |
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Ok this bodyguard thing seems really important since theres such a fuss about it personally i think its a cover up for not adding new characters but what good things can we expect from this that sengoku musou hasn't already offered
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| AdventGreatness | Wed May 19, 2010 1:48 am Post #6271 |
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Do we have any specific info on how the storymodes will be? I remember in an interview and etc. Koba said that based on what you do it will change the outcome of the story |
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| BlackKite | Wed May 19, 2010 1:48 am Post #6272 |
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Hmm... Pokemon info on Famitsu always come a week later than Corocoro, right? Then I guess that ToC I saw is really for this week, which has another info batch for SB3. Stay tuned. |
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| The Outsider | Wed May 19, 2010 1:51 am Post #6273 |
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Interesting, hope there's something good. Hope it just isn't info about bodyguards personally, they're the least of my concerns, don't interest me in SW/DW, don't interest me in SB really unless it 'blow out of the water info' .
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| DarkMantisTalon | Wed May 19, 2010 2:02 am Post #6274 |
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thats great to know now all we have to do is WAIT*falls asleep again* |
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| ChibiGingi | Wed May 19, 2010 2:03 am Post #6275 |
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Call me ungrateful, but I'm rather hoping the new "bodyguard" update isn't the only thing that'll be in the Famitsu scans today. Maybe them and at LEAST a silhouette or hint of another PC for the next update... I'm not interested in the bodyguard aspect; I found them to be utterly useless in a lot of other games like this, and I severely doubt Basara can do much to suddenly make me like them. And now that I think about it, it'd be far too stupid an idea to count those characters as part of the roster, so no fear about that I guess. Still... I'm doing the bad thing here and I dare hope for a little more than bodyguard update (even if its just a teeny, tiny segment that says 'next update, a character! Maybe... if Koba feels like it.') I'd rather have PC or even NPCs of those bodyguards, but eh, no point in complaining further about it. Whatever the case, at LEAST we're getting an update. That I'm happy for. |
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Ok this bodyguard thing seems really important since theres such a fuss about it personally i think its a cover up for not adding new characters
but what good things can we expect from this that sengoku musou hasn't already offered

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