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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| necrosis | Thu May 20, 2010 2:23 am Post #6401 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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About Sakon not doing anything: While he id not accomplish much, I do beleive that under the Tetsui he fought against everyone's fave....Matsunaga-Man! Koei's not the only one to hype Sakon though. Onimusha 4, he was a big boss, I think. : P |
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| Aznwarria | Thu May 20, 2010 2:25 am Post #6402 |
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i think that yoshitsugu was a better addition. We already have Sakon in SW, so why not Yoshitsugu in SB? there we have 2 ppl with 2 different unique designs, all friends of Mitsunari
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| The Outsider | Thu May 20, 2010 2:33 am Post #6403 |
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The Demon's Rival
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When did I say he fought for Shingen ? I said he 'began' with Shingen. Anyway, I didn't get my info from the game, I used the infamous Wikipedia . Not like there's much difference anyway. And what do you define as 'anything'? He had his unique weapon historically, I know that may not be enough for you as he didn't become Emperor of Japan or something but, hey.
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| Claus | Thu May 20, 2010 2:45 am Post #6404 |
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old hag
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Okay then. Just what did you mean by 'Began' then? Obvioulsy I'm too stupid to understand what you meant by it, so please clarify. Because, if, by 'began' you didn't mean fought for/with/met in person/had tea with every other Sunday then I apologize. But Sakon had no relations with Shingen, and wasn't even born for most of his life, and was an itty bitty baby for another big part of it. He only just entered the war as Shingen died. So I have no conception of what you meant by 'Began with Shingen'.And, by anything, I mean exploits. He doesn't have any, and I don't recall any unique weapon of his. |
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| SRS | Thu May 20, 2010 2:53 am Post #6405 |
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Sakon is definitely overrated, but he's not some do-nothing shmuck either. Remember that Samurai-Archives, despite being one of the best English online sources for Sengoku history information, is still missing a good deal of information only available in Japanese texts/sites. Sakon spent the majority of his career as the Tsutsui's main strategist-general in fighting against Matsunaga Hisahide(who at the time served the Miyoshi and was in command of their operations in Yamato, from his base at Shigiyama Castle.) So yeah, before Nobunaga ever came into the picture, it was Hisahide Vs. Sakon. Also, Sakon WAS Mitsunari's "left-hand," at least in the role of a ranking subordinate. Matsukura Shigenobu (the Ukon to Shima Kiyooki's Sakon in the Tsutsui) was dead by then, and Takayama Ukon was in the Eastern Army. Though to be exact, Mitsunari had three men at his side as his closest confidants: Otani Yoshitsugu, Shima Sakon, and Gamo Satoie. All three men were slain during the course of the battle: Yoshitsugu we know by Hideaki's betrayal, Sakon by a Kuroda or Hosokawa gunman, and Gamo Satoie was killed by Nobunaga's brother Oda Urakusai. |
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| The Outsider | Thu May 20, 2010 2:54 am Post #6406 |
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The Demon's Rival
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By began I meant as a proper career, which is my bad 'cause I already mentioned I used Wiki, and it was mentioned on there, so I apologise for that. I knew he didn't fight for him, but I though he met him, and was taught, do you get me now. My bad for using such an unreliable source and not explaining myself properly on that . And with Yuki taking up the position of leading the Takeda in this game, if Sakon was in it, he could have had some awesome times with him if wiki's reference was true, which, apparently isn't, which is ok.And thank you Seraphil, I was wrong about my reference, but he certainly isn't useless either. There was a relationship of sort between him and Ishida. Edited by The Outsider, Thu May 20, 2010 2:56 am.
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| SRS | Thu May 20, 2010 2:57 am Post #6407 |
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Personally I'd rather have Yokoyama Kinai(Gamo Satoie) instead of Sakon... a lot more stuff to his name, and he goes out with a bang. Not a gunshot bang like Sakon, but still a bang. |
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| Watchtower | Thu May 20, 2010 3:03 am Post #6408 |
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A True Musou Star
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So Capcom really decided to hit the FREAKING CENTURY MARK with this one. Can't give us a lot of playables, so Koba gave us all the NPCs we can eat. It's like a buffet. Oh god I'm losing it. This is so hilariously ironic that I'm hyped again. Bodyguard and support system sounds unnecessary, but who knows? Maybe the levels are a lot harder this time, and you may need the backup. Maybe this is for the online mode, so that you at least have your own lil' army (per se). I dunno. There better be some gameplay vids showing this in action, because I can't really say anything until I've seen it. So Kanestsugu has some friends in his department. Nice. And besides our invincible nut, we have Unique Generic Spear Guy #1, a ice guy with a TIGER, a guy who kills people with LOGS, an old grizzled bastard who creates SANDSTORMS, and a samurai who fights with DEAD PEOPLE. And they are support guys, which means they can fight with you? Sweet. Now I wanna see if some of those guys with hammers and the guy with the cannon are in this group. Yeah, maybe this might be different. The bodyguards in DW are boring. First there were too many surrounding you, and now they can't do crap. They're boring with copypasted designs and weapons. And they were unnecessary due to the fact that you were the Juggernaut on steroids. But maybe this is different. Call me optimistic. I don't care. This could rock. |
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| SRS | Thu May 20, 2010 3:05 am Post #6409 |
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Y'know, I just noticed that Basara adds in Bodyguards/Ally Generals right when SW takes them out. |
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| wodash | Thu May 20, 2010 3:17 am Post #6410 |
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ooh finally a new update,and as always,lots of wall of texts accompanied them,the complain thread had no use>.< i love the design 6 warlords>.<,the reason they didn't include them(sans muteki)is perhaps because those skills/element/gadget will be broken when used in the player's spamming hands? as for the individual characters -the ninja:reminds me of tenchu's rikimaru more than anything else,probably will have sasuke's "tunnel attack" too,his stance looked like those generic SB ninjas..... -the one with tiger:we used to have matsu,so this guy is no big "whoa!",its just that the element ice and the fact that the animal is a tiger is what makes it look unique -the one that sounds like he's "woodman":pretty interesting,perhaps now each warlord has a weakness against another warlord's special skill? utilize the leaf shield! -the one with zombie powers : grab a PSP and play undead knights.....nothing new,and even though they're no zombies,sunday has a skill that produces similar effects in previous games(although in limited quantity),so yeah,no big loss there,although it'll be interesting if you can zombify playable characters too,a zombie hondam would totally rock.... and again i dont have anything to complain about the update,it has characters AND gameplay updates,what more can we ask?wait,don't answer that.......... |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Thu May 20, 2010 3:27 am Post #6411 |
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i think you have the UNPCs mixed up i, think you mean an old grizzled bastard who fights with dead people and a samurai who creates sandstorms, just wanted to fix that up
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| RTsharpshooter | Thu May 20, 2010 5:36 am Post #6412 |
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Pay close attention! This is justice REBORN!
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Site updated. Hmm...one could assume from the placement of the UNPC link on the character section that there aren't anymore NPCs left to be revealed. If so, I guess this means theres a pretty big chance that "the villian of Sengoku" won't be an NPC! Keiji's Vid: Of all the characters to fight, Kanbei?! That sure came out of left field. Still, we got to see a stage not seen thus far. I love the lava filled final area, and I like how Kanbei's soldiers carry pickaxes. Keiji looks as fun as ever, his old skills intact, and his new skills look cool, like the sake drinking and the nodachi "TIMBER!"UNPCs: Nanbu Harumasa sounds appropriately like a snide old ninja master. Like it so far. Satake Yoshishige sounds, pardon me, about as generic as he looks (does he have any special abilities?). Utsunomiya Hirotsuna I think is my favourite of the voices Really dig the Bruce Lee "WATATATATATATATA *cough*cough*".And of course, I cant read the info stuff. Cursed unilingual brain. All in all, I'd say this was a nice site update this week. Even more so that everyone stopped worrying about "no more new PC's?!" What the heck is that video we're getting next week? Is it supposed to be Ieyasu's story's opening cutscene? Edited by RTsharpshooter, Thu May 20, 2010 5:55 am.
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| Jsun | Thu May 20, 2010 5:56 am Post #6413 |
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KOEI Warriors Forever!
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Maeda Keiji Gameplay Video! Also who are the 3 new NPC characters? |
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| ZhaoYun2009 | Thu May 20, 2010 5:58 am Post #6414 |
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Sengoku Basara 3 Keiji Maeda gameplay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6Ynyl8uLs |
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| Jsun | Thu May 20, 2010 6:01 am Post #6415 |
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KOEI Warriors Forever!
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Please don't triple post. New SB3 UNPC Renders Updated! |
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| Enygma | Thu May 20, 2010 6:44 am Post #6416 |
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KEIJI!! I must say that some of the moves are quite comical Thank you as always Jsun EDIT: What is the new video that is coming out the 27th? Edited by Enygma, Thu May 20, 2010 6:46 am.
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| Gakupo | Thu May 20, 2010 7:10 am Post #6417 |
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^Being that it doesn't say at all my guess would be an alternate opening video, the opening video to one of the main game modes, or an updated characters trailer (hopefully with some surprise PC's being revealed)? |
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| BlackKite | Thu May 20, 2010 7:32 am Post #6418 |
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長宗我部菜々
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Just a small tidbit. The file number for the first listed UNPC: Nanbu Harumasa, is chara_40. |
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| SRS | Thu May 20, 2010 7:55 am Post #6419 |
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Huh. So we may indeed be getting a 20/20 split on PC/NPCs. |
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| AdawgDaFAB | Thu May 20, 2010 7:57 am Post #6420 |
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BK, is the first PC listed as chara_00 or chara_01? If it is 00 then it looks like we will get 20 PCs, 20 NPCs, and then however they split the remaining 60 support spots between Area Warlords and Generics. |
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| BlackKite | Thu May 20, 2010 8:18 am Post #6421 |
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Since the 15th PC (Kotarou) is chara_15, the first PC (Ieyasu) must be chara_01 then.
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Thu May 20, 2010 9:10 am Post #6422 |
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Um...I- Ah screw it,I'll comment in what I know : Yeah,Keiji's video.He really is great but a whole ot more serious than last time...poor guy.Love his upgraded and the new skill(s?). |
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| ZhaoYun2009 | Thu May 20, 2010 10:42 am Post #6423 |
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Sorry, It's lag
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| Ouelis | Thu May 20, 2010 10:48 am Post #6424 |
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Ouch, they made KG even faster then in SB2. He's a complete beast. Seems like he has a wide range of skills as well. Gotta say that I like seeing more of my boy Kurokan too. Nanbu is chara_40? Well that gives more credence to the 19 PC theory. That would mean 19 PC's, 20 NPC's(to bring it to 39, just under the 40 mark which would make sense with the 30 number on the back of the box) and then the UNPC's from 40. At this point, I think it's a likely scenario. |
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| murakumo | Thu May 20, 2010 10:52 am Post #6425 |
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Wow, thanks for all the info guys. It's taken a while for me to get my head around it all (so behind with all this *sob*), but I like the look of the badass new designs, the hilarious hats, and in my opinion it's better that these characters are included like this than not at all. We can also hope that they will perhaps become playable at some point. Harumasa looks like Motochika's grandpa, and he's pretty damn creepy but I like the sound of his description. His voice is awesome and chilling to the bone. Yoshishige looks like an armadillo, but the armour is interesting. Doesn't make much of an impact on me yet though. Hirotsuna strikes me as a Zhao Yun sort of character, though it could just be the colour scheme. He reminds me on Yukimura a lot, especially with the pet tiger. I like him and his Fist of the North Star attitude though. Keiji's vid is kickass, I've always loved his moveset. But why Kanbei? Oh well, I know someone who will be made happy by this combination *cough*Wurf*cough*... Thanks for the heads up, the translations and the renders as always
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Just because he was fighting them in the skill vid.
The Maedas are highly likely though too. I wouldn't mind seeing some Matsu-Toshi action myself, but The newbies to the basara-verse are on the top of my 'to see' list.
. I just think Sakon should get something out of that injustice
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This is why people shouldn't take video games as a source of info. Sakon never fought for Shingen. Or even the Takeda. He doean't even have any major exploits in any battle that I know of. He really didn't do anything.
? I said he 'began' with Shingen. Anyway, I didn't get my info from the game, I used the infamous Wikipedia 
Okay then. Just what did you mean by 'Began' then? Obvioulsy I'm too stupid to understand what you meant by it, so please clarify. Because, if, by 'began' you didn't mean fought for/with/met in person/had tea with every other Sunday then I apologize. But Sakon had no relations with Shingen, and wasn't even born for most of his life, and was an itty bitty baby for another big part of it. He only just entered the war as Shingen died. So I have no conception of what you meant by 'Began with Shingen'.




Really dig the Bruce Lee "WATATATATATATATA *cough*cough*".





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