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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,069 Views)
Mibu Kyoshiro
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^Kotaro...maybe they could redisgn them to fit his "small twin ninja sword" routine.But the DMC2 weapons weren't that impressive as the rest of the Weapons in the DMC franchise[sans the Rebelion].Still,it's an idea.
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Thanks for the scans as always guys. Little disappointed we don't have new characters, but no matter. That horse and carriage and giant demon toda-boat thing look awesome.

And wth, 12 WEAPONS! This is awesome. I assume they'll keep the previous 8 and just add on to them. I feel so spoilt for choice already.

Let's hope this spells good news for alternate costumes...
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BlackKite
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Or maybe Kotaro could get Agni & Rudra instead. :p
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Woot, yeh boi Demon Horse :sly:

Demon toad thing is very ugly looking XD

I always loved those special enemy units, they're very entertaining. Hopefully this also confirms somewhere on the scan, the Gohon Yari, Miyoshi Death Trio (if Hisahide is still around) and other special units.

12 weapons, eh? Nice, and people were worried about the possibility of less weapons, and here we get more. Thats reassuring.

Good update, got some worthwhile news. ^_^ And thats technically two updates in a row without NPCs.... Could this be a hint that there are no more? Everything seems to be pointing in that direction. Hehe, If He isn't dead, NDY and Devilskings may get their playable Kennyo.
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Well, i was really hoping for new characters, but this is great too :D
I mean 12 weapons, is amazing and the horse and carrige and the other thing look stupendously amazing!!!!!
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Zankai
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Now we need some alternate costumes :hehe:
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HaseoXSkeith
Wed Jun 2, 2010 12:39 pm
Now we need some alternate costumes :hehe:
We do. I personally want to see Kotaro's old alt return because it was just so fantastic xD
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well seven updates to go.

The last and eighth is on the day of the release and as I said, those updates are mostly reserved for a order section and other BASARA related fanstuff/PR stuff. Of course that´s the day it comes out, so most of the fans won´t bother with the site update if they can get the game :rolleyes:

Seeing as the NPC Tsunami is over (a lot of victims, sadly) we now wait for the good things to happen.

As I said, we get some other game related stuff and gameplay mechanics + a date for a new video this week.

As for playable characters, we might still see the 4 characters.

The last updates were allways couples (Maeda´s and Hojo/Mogami were also planned to be 2 NPCs only) we might also see those 4 characters split in two.

So it´d mean two out of the 7 remaining updates might be playables.
It´s enough time to show us those characters.

Of course, I allready hope for one character since 4 would be a big surprise, seeing the letdowns we had in that department :facepalm:

But again, there´s still time. As for the reason why they kept them so long in the dark, it might be as I said that they wanted to get out the main characters so they can advertise the hell out of them and then finish the rest. Seeing that they first threw out 4 playable characters per update, then two and at the end only one, it seems plausible that they started to work on some sooner than others.

Also if my theory if further correct the last character will probably be Hisahide and Itsuki/Kennyo/?-character - Musashi and Kojiro.

As for Hisahide they kept him in the dark cause he´ll boost the hype for BASARA immensly and Kennyo/Itsuki for a surprise factor.

Musashi and Kojiro are well known characters, they don´t need much hype, also the game focuses more on Sekighara/BASARA 3 conflict than on those two. So having them in so late and getting out all the story relevant character first is probably a good excuse.

Don´t get your hopes up, but the 4 characters still live on as long as the curtain hasn´t fallen.

Also about the new enemy types...I hope that giant enemy crab has a weak spot so we can attack it and deal massive damage...

As for the Horse-enemy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7EYnqS-6c&feature=related

Reminds a but of the boss in Devil May Cry 3/12th stage. I liked that one.
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I dont think Kennyo and itsucki will be back. Muscle has no place in this setting and no existing relationships. Itsucki for kind of obvious reasons: Tsuruhime knocks both her and Ran out in one shot.

My guess is Musashi+Kojiro, Hisahide, and some new/unexpected character.
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Mibu Kyoshiro
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^Maybe a mix of those two : some macho-muscle type character with a true battle hammer[better than Yoshihiro's in SW] or pehaps a double pike+huge hammer amalgamation type of weapon with the ice element.That would be nice for unexpected in my book.And I don't even like Ice as an element. :OMG:

@BlackKite : Agni and Rudra as Kotaro's :ph43r: ...he will need a new case sprite,due to the odd way the two swords are stored,but I'm all for it-! :!:

Wait a minute!Musashi can get those two instead...or not.

And as for the alt costumes...the good old real alts will be fine for me,not the pallete swaps we got as 2nd costumes[and as alts in SB:BH].Other than that I'm not really anxious about what the game may screw up.

PS : Yes,I'm probably the only who is uber happy with this game. :dance: :lol:

Edit : A million thanks to Balder for the info :

Happy Honnouji Incident Day everyone!And as far as gifts are concerned,a fire fighter's suit and a portable fire extnguisher are perfect.Too bad I can't give them at poor ald Nobu and co.Oh well.Have at thee!

*Throws these "gifts" at everyone.*

Happy Birthday RTsharpshooter!
Happy Birthday HaseoXSkeith!

I hope you both have a nice birthday.[And a great party-after birthday party.]
Edited by Mibu Kyoshiro, Wed Jun 2, 2010 2:14 pm.
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Balder
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BK and Jsun,
Thanks for the scans and info. Though I am rather disappointed that yet another update passed without giving us a playable character, objectively this update is pretty good, promising variety both for the playable characters and the battlefield.
I would just ask that you would be so kind to enlighten me on one point - if I understood correctly, each character will have 12 weapons to choose from but also each individual weapon can be customized as well. Is that right?
If that's the case, I think it's safe to assume that the weapons will vary in design only and it's up to the player to customize it's effects.


On a side note - Happy Honnouji Incident Day everyone! And I believe we got ourselves another couple of birthdays today.
A Happy Birthday to RTsharpshooter!
A Happy Birthday to HaseoXSkeith!
But don't look at me for cake. I can make one for the Honnouji Incident Day though. Basically, it will look like a burned down Honnouji Temple. Fire included.

And on a even more random note, curiosity finally got the best of me and I decided to know more about the distinguished gentleman in Sir Hondam's avatar and learn about his exploits. Hilarity ensued.
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well...Kennyo does have connections...forgot the Saika? Mori? Even the Oda?

At least, he´d have more connections and reason to be in than Tsuruhime :mellow:

Also:

Toyotomi Hideyoshi was to make use of Kosa's influence, and dispatched him to Kyushu to rally his supporters there in expectation of Hideyoshi's invasion of that island in 1587. In 1591 Hideyoshi permitted Kosa to build a new Honganji facility in Kyoto, which was constructed on three blocks in the southern part of the city.

So yeah...Kosa has some pretty good connections and given that he lived untill the year 1592 which means it´s easier to explain than Motonari´s, Tsuruhime´s and Oichi´s inclusion who are "even more dead" than Kosa would be -_-

Don´t count of Kosa that easily. He has high chances...at least as high as Musashi´s.

So I admit Itsuki is another story...though I wouldn´t count her off...it seems Koba has his certain tastes...<_<

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And happy birthday everyone :dance:
I can´t make a new cake-montage for now, since I´m just making a new YTMND....just imagine the Honnouji ground to be the cake and the burning temple to be the candles...but you have to blow it out soon or else nothing is left of it :whistle:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Jun 2, 2010 3:48 pm.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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Happy Honnoji BDay, Keith and Shooter!

Here's my present for you guys!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10931068
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RTsharpshooter
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Thanks Balder and Mibu ^_^
+ DK and NDY :bowdown:

In honour of Honnouji I will feast with my friends and family, but I'll be sure to get out of there before my "best friend" shows up to BBQ :P

When we do get more info on the mechs, I'm wondering if there's a process to go through in order to destroy them, like a boss in any other game; since the AT-AT and rotating-Dragon-spider-thing were always "smack away at any spot, but try not to get hit". Not as if that didn't work out in the end, but it'd be nice if there was, say, wider range of movement (chargeing attack?), or for the crab, something you can use to flip him on his back, and attack his weakpoint for massive damage!
...ok, old joke is old.

As for the weapon system, I hope this also means that, if we're using the resources from conquered territories to upgrade them, then perhaps we get to choose which weapon to upgrade. At least then you won't have to worry so much about randomly getting an upgrade for a weapon you never use when you were pining for an upgrade for your favourite.
Edited by RTsharpshooter, Wed Jun 2, 2010 4:08 pm.
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Hondam
Wed Jun 2, 2010 1:21 pm
I dont think Kennyo and itsucki will be back. Muscle has no place in this setting and no existing relationships. Itsucki for kind of obvious reasons: Tsuruhime knocks both her and Ran out in one shot.

My guess is Musashi+Kojiro, Hisahide, and some new/unexpected character.
I think Itsuki will at least be a NPC.
They gave out the list of characters who were "taking a break" near the beginning, why didn't they list her then?

She has no real reason to return, nor does she have any reason to be cut. They'd may as well include her as a NPC
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Mibu Kyoshiro
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Perhaps the weapons themselves will have a limit and "rank up" the same way the did in previous BASARAs...or they could be tied to a territory? :?: Like,you get the resources from a certain territory taht you earned the specific weapon and can only upgrade it there...though that would be lame compared to the first option.

Of course there's the third option RT suggested : make as kick-4$$ as you want with resources. :dance:

As for Itsu...Koba is a pedo...but we already have Tsuru and having Itsuki without growing up[since that's what he confirmed...for all we know he may pull a ZAA on us and introduce us to her mother,big/smaller sister etc] would be...not exactly a plothole but...just stupid.
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RTsharpshooter
Wed Jun 2, 2010 4:03 pm
When we do get more info on the mechs, I'm wondering if there's a process to go through in order to destroy them, like a boss in any other game; since the AT-AT and rotating-Dragon-spider-thing were always "smack away at any spot, but try not to get hit". Not as if that didn't work out in the end, but it'd be nice if there was, say, wider range of movement (chargeing attack?), or for the crab, something you can use to flip him on his back, and attack his weakpoint for massive damage!
...ok, old joke is old.
LOL, taking clue from another Capcom gem: Monster Hunter, eh? :lol:

But looking at the screenshots vs. the Zabii tank, I think I'm inclined to say no, though.

Oh, and speaking about it... In Monster Hunter Tri, after you've fulfilled some achievements, you can unlock some 'omake' movies showing the peaceful life of some monsters you've hunted.

Now I've been always wondering if the SB team may take clues from here and include 'omake' videos for those NPC-only factions, so we could still see these kinds of videos in SB3:
-Kasuga's moan when embraced by Kenshin-sama
-The speechless Maeda couple life

As well as some new, possibly interesting ones:
-Zabii and the Otomo, in full detail
-Kobayakawa's cooking obsession (?)

Anyway, happy birthday to you and HaseoxSkeith. Hope this week's Famitsu can make a fine b'day gift. ;)
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Mooglez
Wed Jun 2, 2010 4:08 pm
Hondam
Wed Jun 2, 2010 1:21 pm
I dont think Kennyo and itsucki will be back. Muscle has no place in this setting and no existing relationships. Itsucki for kind of obvious reasons: Tsuruhime knocks both her and Ran out in one shot.

My guess is Musashi+Kojiro, Hisahide, and some new/unexpected character.
I think Itsuki will at least be a NPC.
They gave out the list of characters who were "taking a break" near the beginning, why didn't they list her then?
No they didn't. They said that the characters that didn't work with the new settings were cut, Someone asked if the Oda corporation was cut, he said yes they were, and mentioned people who had to do with then (Nagamasa) were also cut. No list was ever made.

Happy B-day to those celebrating today! :lol:
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Happy birthday to RTsharpshooter and HaseoXSkeith. Looks like the streak of interesting birthday updates continues (Mine was 2 weeks ago when we learned about the whole 100 support characters system) lol.

I say this was another good update this week. I like the 12 weapons info and I'm interested in this week's site update now to see better pics of the different machines.
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Happy birthday to RTsharpshooter and HaseoXSkeith!

Well, guys, I just found this: http://www.capcom.co.jp/basara/tougunseigun.html

I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it shows who's on which side. Turns out that Keiji is on the wrong side, just like Kanbei...oh well, this way, at least he won't have to move heaven and earth to see Mago?
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Interesting find there Wurf. So we have:

-East-
Ieyasu
Hondam
Masamune
Keiji
Magoichi
Fuuma
Tsuruhime

-West-
Mitsunari
Otani
Yukimura
Kanbei
Motochika
Motonari
Shimazu
Oichi

Also if you look here: http://www.capcom.co.jp/information/basara/ on the small ones where it says sample you can see they are going to be making these posters without the silhouettes. I would love to be able to get them :P . Or at the very least get a HQ scan of them.
Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Wed Jun 2, 2010 6:56 pm.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
Wed Jun 2, 2010 3:46 pm
Happy Honnoji BDay, Keith and Shooter!

Here's my present for you guys!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10931068
I know I shouldn't have since it was not for little old me, but I took a peak.
For what it's worth, I feel guilty for doing so, especially when that trailer was so awesome with all the spankin' new footage.
NDY, did you just get this one steamin' hot from the news oven? They even show the Dagon-boat in action (I got severely beaten to the punch on the Geryon comment, but that won't stop me from making a DMC reference...though the spider legs make it more of a Bael-boat, at least by the terms of the Ars Goetia). And that was one HUEG tiger...Year of the Tiger indeed.
On a side note, I know it sounds very secondary, but every time I see new story scenes, I get more hyped about this game.


Wurf,
Interesting find. Seems Oichi is sided with the West. Hell...all the cool cats are on the - dare I say it? - WEST SIDE!


On the topic of any possible remaining characters, assuming the Basara team isn't messing with us, the .swf file numbers remain a plausible assurance that there will be more characters.
But regarding NPCs, I have the impression we all have one more. If I'm not mistaken, BlackKite pointed out the first unique generic's number and it seemed to accomodate for one last NPC.
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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WHAT?

Didn´t they say she´s neutral for now and various people try to "pull her in"? Way to spoil the obvious BASARA team :facepalm:

I mean Kobayakawa is on Motonari´s side who is on Mitsunari´s side, thus has Tenkai as his support who was Mitsuhide and had relations with Oichi who lost her memories. So it was clear were she would end up.

But great that they blantly admit that the western army has more characters on their side with this. :mellow:

It´s time for another playable character CAPCOM.
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No! if they have done this does this mean that there is no more playable characters, please i hope not please just 4, 4 more characters is all we need please......

And happy birthday peoples :D

EDIT: I knew oichi would be on the west, i kinda hoped she was neutral but you could just tell, she is dark and evil, the west side is mainly dark and evil, it was just obvious -_-
Edited by LsLights, Wed Jun 2, 2010 6:33 pm.
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Well damn, that was unexpected! GREAT find NDY. That video was fantastic.

Here is a link for anyone without a niconico account:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm10931068

It basically was:
The TMR OP
A new PV
The Chiaki OP
An new trailer

The PV was some brief scenes / gameplay footage from the 15 announced characters + Kobayakawa, Tenkai, Mogami, Muneshige, Kojirou, Sasuke, and Sorin.

But DAMN was that new trailer awesome showing various gameplay footage, Emaki mode stuff, story CGs, gameplay again focusing on "Sengoku Boost" and the base capture system, our first look at the 12 weapons systems in action!, clips of the support characters (including Utsunomiya Hirotsuna's white tiger ripping up an enemy mob!), some of the giant mech units in action, and lastly some coop scenes.

That really got me hype for the game. Great stuff!

The weapon system looks like it will be similar to the item equipment from the previous games, just with 6 equiptable slots on the weapons (or at least on the weapon they showed Ieyasu setting up). Maybe the stronger the weapon you get the more slots it has?
Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Wed Jun 2, 2010 6:34 pm.
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