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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,060 Views)
Mibu Kyoshiro
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^Hm...they could go the old-fashioned way,scrap the cutscenes completely in Emaki mode and repalce them with dialogue boxes to save a great amount of space[not the cutscenes at the start of the stage or in stage]...wait,I just repeated what you said DK,scrap that.Though they could easily use that one the PSP port.[If it happens.]

As for the PSP sounds...was there something with them?I didn't seem to be bothered by them...then again I don't have the volume of the PSP on most of the time so my memory must be failing me on this.

Ahem...now for the alts : I say let's have Tsuchi go ballistic and show us his/her[?] talent throught the excellent costumes he/she[?] will provide for the game.A dlc pack with DMC costumes and other stuff[and if we bring more stuff from other Capcom games,I won't be bothered at all] plus some "cosplay" costumes wouldn't hurt at all.I just hope it's not their main concern,just the side dish DLC we will get...one way or another.

As fpr the alts,I hope we can have the ones from previous games,along with the previous alt colours and perhaps a new alt costume for this game...

example : Yukimura with an outfit similar to Shingen's or...a bikini Maggie[shot by Maggie]

As for SW3 : Yup,you can play it with the gamecube controleer and the...wavebird[?] controller of the wii.[the one that looks like the gamecube's...]I believe it really is worth a buy,but I'm still waiting to see the "remake-port" Koei-Tecmo will throw for the PSP and possibly for the PS3[and XB360 for the west].And that would go with the deletion of the...Muramasa/Murasama/whatever Nintendo trademark castle stage...
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Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:40 pm
as long as the quality isnt REALLY bad,i wont even care to rant about graphics and sounds,its all about concept,gameplay,and the overall charisma of a game that is important.....
Quoted for Truth.
Though personally I'll have to say the sound is very important to me. For me the OST can make or break the game, cut part of the enjoyment on a game that's technically great or reversely make a average game much more enjoyable.
And on the subject of Basara, the voice acting is important to me. I don't mind a dub, as long as it's good (for example, I played P4 both dub and original and I think the English version is superior in many instances) but if it's direly inappropriate, it can ruin part of the experience. I guess that personally I would include music and voice acting in that overall notion of a game's "charisma" you mentioned. You gotta admit God Hand's OST did a lot for the game.

On the whole subject of dual audio, if the disk space argument is invalid then I really see no reason to not include it, and I don't mean Western audiences getting the Japanese VA, Japanese audiences should get the English VA as well. Let everyone mix things up a bit. Maximize the investment. Those VAs got paid (some handsomely, I bet), so why not get the most juice out of those oranges, so to speak?

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Ahem...now for the alts : I say let's have Tsuchi go ballistic and show us his/her[?] talent throught the excellent costumes he/she[?] will provide for the game.A dlc pack with DMC costumes and other stuff[and if we bring more stuff from other Capcom games,I won't be bothered at all] plus some "cosplay" costumes wouldn't hurt at all.I just hope it's not their main concern,just the side dish DLC we will get...one way or another.
Good. Seems I'm not alone on the matter.

ChibiGingi,
On the off-topic of VanillaWare, do you know about Grim Grimoire (PS2)? While not as good as Muramasa and OS, like all VW games it's still gorgeous to look at. I guess it's one of those games one plays just for the "experience"...
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I heard Hisahide is confirmed to be in the game, It's just his status that remains unknown as of yet :unsure: ?

I've never played Basara 2, so I have no idea what exactly the big-deal about this character is. Everybody is gagging for him, but he's just another character right :huh: . Why him, what's Hisahide's stuff :unsure: ?
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Sun Jun 6, 2010 6:00 pm
I heard Hisahide is confirmed to be in the game, It's just his status that remains unknown as of yet :unsure: ?

I've never played Basara 2, so I have no idea what exactly the big-deal about this character is. Everybody is gagging for him, but he's just another character right :huh: . Why him, what's Hisahide's stuff :unsure: ?
No he isn't confirmed in the game, WE just know that Capcom acknowledges his existence, not sure how much merit that holds for his inclusion.

Even if you have played Basara 2 you still would know zilch about Hisahide, he only appears in SB2:H (and he is in SBX right? But as an NPC I think) as an NPC. If you've watcehd the anime, you get a glimpse of his awesome trolling and badassery. I suggest you look upt Kojiro's story mode and see what Hisahide is truly like, since he plays a big part in it, also Keiji's gaiden stages feature a bit of Hisahide, and tells you he is the cause of Hideyoshi's ... I don't know what to call it, but he is the cause of the new Hideyoshi.

And as far as I know thats his part in the game as of yet, he gets a few other glimpses in other stories and Gaidens I'm sure, but I don't know much about SB2:H other than watching some videos, since I only have SB2. Hisahide, is just plain awesome, thats all I can really say. If you don't like him you're just missing out.
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Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:40 pm
really? i though the overall sound in SB1/DK up to SB2H and SBBH was not bad at all,its not the best but its way above "normal" that's for sure

if there's one SB game where sound really hits a very low score it would be the PS2 port of SBX,very VERY weak,its like hearing the original arcade game recorded whilst in the middle of an arcade crowd and viewed through youtube..its that bad....
The sound seemed muffled in a way when it came to stuff that wasn't dialogue or in cutscenes I thought.
Guess it might've just been me though. Though yeah it wasn't as bad as SBX. Made all the more irksome when you realize how little space they used.
Edited by thernz, Sun Jun 6, 2010 6:35 pm.
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What´s the deal about Hisahide?

Fuma Kotaro works for him in SB2:H.
He blew up Masamune and made him give him his six swords.
He made Kojuuro lose his calm mind and go on a berserk rampage.
He stabbed Hideyoshi in the hand and told him that he´s weak and after that Hideyoshi suddenly started to have his thurst for power.

So yeah:
The most badass ninja works for him.
He defeated Masamune.
He broke Kojuuro´s mind.
And he created the Hideoyshi we know.
And that´s only in an expansion...as a NPC...now imagine him being a playable in a fully fletched out game...

Also, he is able to read a person´s mind, but instead of making fun of them and teasing them like Mitsuhide, he plays with them and uses their weaknesses against them to bring them to their limit.

In short: He just loves to troll people and watch them go madhouse.
He suceeded with Hideyoshi (that includes Keiji too, cause thanks to Hideyosh´s change Nene was killed :ph43r: ), Masamune and Kojuuro.
A character who can do that IS BADASS.

And he can blow stuff up *points at avatar*

For the rest:
http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6636266/1/#new
Here´s allmost everything about him.

Hmmm...about the audio...I never noticed that in the console versions...but you can clearly hear the poor quality of the PSP (not to mention most of it is re-hashed -_- )
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:11 am.
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so hes basically a God Mod character whose capable of doing what ever he wants?

sounds like a broken character to me, and if that's the case i hope capcom doesn't bring him back.

we don't need a character who is basically like a self centered god with nothing but strengths and no weaknesses. i cant stand people like that

already the idea of him being in SBSH, only after just hearing about him, is beginning to ruin the game for me.

oh well, if he dose appear in the game, ill have the pleasure of kicking his ass with Oichi.

in my mind making him beg for mercy as she pulls him into the deepest darkest depths of hell never to see the light of day ever again.
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Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:23 am
so hes basically a God Mod character whose capable of doing what ever he wants?

sounds like a broken character to me, and if that's the case i hope capcom doesn't bring him back.

we don't need a character who is basically like a self centered god with nothing but strengths and no weaknesses. i cant stand people like that

already the idea of him being in SBSH, only after just hearing about him, is beginning to ruin the game for me.

oh well, if he dose appear in the game, ill have the pleasure of kicking his ass with Oichi.

in my mind making him beg for mercy as she pulls him into the deepest darkest depths of hell never to see the light of day ever again.
You, my friend, will get a lot of hate messages. Everyone LOVES HISAHIDE. He is bad ass, because he is bad ass. It's not because he is cheap and OP, it's because of his accomplishments and power. PLUS HES REAL. He's not some made up dude, he is awesome.

DK, if there is a VS mode......heh heh. Masamune vs Hisahide ALL THE WAY! :shifty:
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i highly doubt people are so mean as to send hate mail to a person for posting their opinion about something

i dislike him, and even if he was real there's no way he could have done all that

remember capcom takes a 80% fictional twist on history, ware as KOEI gos 50/50 on realism and fiction

i mean capcoms gone and made Magoichi a girl, when in real life he was a man

they have made it so Oichi takes part in the war of east vs West

they went and made tadakatsu into what is basically a Gundam Cyborg.

using the "he was real" Claus doesn't work in this situation, im sorry it just doesn't.
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You dont like God Mode characters...yet...you're a massive fan of Devil May Ca- Cry...
Oi...
This Misahide character reminds me a bit of...myself!
Mhm...mhm...ahahahaahah!

So he knows how to use his head, it's not like he was overpowered in what he was featured in, was he?

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Erm...
Additionally...
From what I've been able to find, there was supposed to be a demo release date in April...but...that's not next April, right?
So, the demo must have been for...something...else...right?
Edited by Oojin, Mon Jun 7, 2010 2:07 am.
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Ixbran
Mon Jun 7, 2010 2:04 am
i highly doubt people are so mean as to send hate mail to a person for posting their opinion about something

i dislike him, and even if he was real there's no way he could have done all that

remember capcom takes a 80% fictional twist on history, ware as KOEI gos 50/50 on realism and fiction

i mean capcoms gone and made Magoichi a girl, when in real life he was a man

they have made it so Oichi takes part in the war of east vs West

they went and made tadakatsu into what is basically a Gundam Cyborg.

using the "he was real" Claus doesn't work in this situation, im sorry it just doesn't.
You haven't even played, seen or known about him and you're saying you don't like him. Just like you're so happy there isn't any dual audio for no reason (You don't even have to use it) and still hasn't explained why.

And he isn't a God Mode character, and he has weaknesses. If he was, he wouldn't have gotten beat by Kojuuro and Masamune.

I wouldn't care if you actually knew who he was in the games and played them but you don't and you didn't so I don't know why you're so angry. -_-
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Matsunaga a god mode character...?

You're talking like you know a lot about him and then making a final judgement, but you know nothing about him. Who said he was a god mode character without any faults? He is pretty much all talk, he is an incomplete character who effs with people's minds to make them weaker, to break them so he can take the last blow. Also, we haven't seen a story mode for him , adn thus know next to nothing about his character other than other character's impression on him, so he very well could have other weaknessess and flaws. Its really silly to hate a character and say he'll ruin a game, when all you know about him, is what a few fans of him, have said in a few paragraphs.And how can a good villain ruin a game exactly? Just because you may not find his characteristics appealing to your preferences, doesn't mean he doesn't have a place, or is undeserving to be in the game, he has to fill that void of an evil villain, there should be someone you hate, someone you can blame, so just because his persona isn't something FAV CHARACTERS material for you, doesn't mean he is a bad character, even in your own opinion. You can hate him all you want, you're supposed to, but saying he is broken because of it, is silly to me.

Oh, here we go, KOei-Capcom talk.

@Paptimus: Nope, there is a demo about to be released, but the demo released in April was an in-store only demo, we still have to wait a while for the Downloadable one.
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you do have a point

i should not judge him before getting to know him

just hearing about him and everything, i dont know but it really pissed me off when it seems hes so strong, yet has no weaknesses

i'm going to try and stay neutral about him for now, but as of now his first impression is not a very good one. i can not stand characters, or people, who think their better than everyone else.

so yea, i jumped the gun there, and i apologize for it
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I've never played him, so I can't judge. He looks awesome though and I bet he fights cool, I'd love to kick ass with him ;) . However, judging from what others have said, and I can't believe I'm going to say it because it is Basara, buttttt, (oh god), doesn't all that stuff about Hisahide make him very, erm, fictional though :blush: . I doubt he was the turning point in Hideyoshi's desire to take Japan, that would never, ever happen in SW (well, never know after some of the recent things they've done <_< ), but that's completely not the point.

I really like how well, sinister yet awesome he looks, but like the 'reading minds' stuff, a little red alarm is going off in the distance for me now :unsure: .
Edited by The Outsider, Mon Jun 7, 2010 3:14 am.
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Mon Jun 7, 2010 2:04 am
i highly doubt people are so mean as to send hate mail to a person for posting their opinion about something

i dislike him, and even if he was real there's no way he could have done all that

remember capcom takes a 80% fictional twist on history, ware as KOEI gos 50/50 on realism and fiction

i mean capcoms gone and made Magoichi a girl, when in real life he was a man

they have made it so Oichi takes part in the war of east vs West

they went and made tadakatsu into what is basically a Gundam Cyborg.

using the "he was real" Claus doesn't work in this situation, im sorry it just doesn't.
First and foremost you're complaining about broken characters in a game where it's nothing but, which strikes me as a bit odd...and like Dr. Scrioccso the rock and roll ace pilot stated you like DMC. Any who you also stated that Magoichi was a man when in fact it was a title used by multiple people, so what Capcom is doing isn't all that far-fetched...well gender wise. You also point out that Hondam is pretty much a mech. Koei made Ieyasu have a spear that shoots cannonballs is a flame thrower and can also shoot a laser beam...so neither company is about the realism when it comes to weapons and what not. Personally I say bring Hisahide back. Furthermore don't compare the two it's like pitting apples against pomegranates.
Edited by Xellos, Mon Jun 7, 2010 6:05 am.
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You, my friend, will get a lot of hate messages. Everyone LOVES HISAHIDE. He is bad ass, because he is bad ass. It's not because he is cheap and OP, it's because of his accomplishments and power. PLUS HES REAL. He's not some made up dude, he is awesome.

DK, if there is a VS mode......heh heh. Masamune vs Hisahide ALL THE WAY! :shifty:
I don't like Hisahide. In fact, I dislike him quite a bit. It's one thing to be a 'badass', but it's another to be his type of character, which just doesn't interest me. And the "plus he's real" argument doesn't really make sense because 90 percent of the characters in the game were real people.

I personally don't think he's going to be in the game just because of the focus this time on Sekigahara, but since we have Tsuruhime, it's still kind of up in the air.
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I don't mind Hisahide, though he wasn't anything great. His achievements may be to the 'extreme', but in the world of Basara, he's about as plain as some of the new characters (not to offend!)

I don't care if he's in though, the only thing that saves him is his fire powers (maybe?) and the fact he blows himself up.
Edited by FlameMasterAJ, Mon Jun 7, 2010 5:47 am.
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Ixbran shows their amazing knowledge of both the basara series and real life history in just a few simple posts. Fascinating.


Besides, why be against having a character everyone EXCEPT you likes and wants in? Selfish selfish. Maybe they should delay the game at the last minute and NPC-ify Oichi just for you?
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I really don't understand all these 'reasons' that Hisahide is somehow shallow or plain. If you understood his dialogue and the actions he took you'd realize he's anything but just some cookie-cutter villain and I'd even go as far as to say he's deeper than any other baddie in SB (He trumps Nobunaga and Hideyoshi as far as villainy goes..). Hell, he has more depth than basically the entire cast of SM.

And like some other people said- judging his character when he doesn't even have his own story yet is plain silly.

Anyways. Kinda bored so just doing some element speculation. What are your all thoughts?

Ieyasu- Light
Mitsunari- Dark
Masamune- Lightning
Yukimura- Fire
Yoshitsugu- I dunno, light seems like the best fit.
Hondam- Lightning
Motochika- Fire
Motonari- Light
Mago- Fire
Keiji- Wind
Kanbei- Wind
Yoshihiro- Lightning
Tsuru- Ice
Oichi- Dark
Kotaro- Wind

For NPCs:

Hideaki- Fire?
Tenkai- Dark
Muneshige- Lightning
Sorin- Fire or Light, not sure. Both seem fitting
Kojuurou- Lightning
Sasuke- Dark
Kenshin- Ice
Kasuga- Light
Toshiie- Fire
Matsu- Wind
Ujimasa- Ice
Yoshiaki- Looked like wind based on his specials

So in total:

Fire- 5/6
Lightning- 5
Wind- 5
Light- 4/5
Dark- 4
Ice- ..3

Glad to see more light and wind, but it really sucks at the lack of ice users. We really only have 1 since the other two aren't playable, which kinda blows. Aside from that looks like all the other elements have evened out which I personally like. I hated in the past games that the majority would be fire or lightning, which I think are the two worst elements but eh.

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Mon Jun 7, 2010 6:02 am
Ixbran shows their amazing knowledge of both the basara series and real life history in just a few simple posts. Fascinating.


Besides, why be against having a character everyone EXCEPT you likes and wants in? Selfish selfish. Maybe they should delay the game at the last minute and NPC-ify Oichi just for you?
http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/single/?p=8573410&t=6615453

i already analogized for what i said, you don't have to go and insult me just because you overlooked it.

:uh:
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I think Sasuke isn't dark anymore, look at Ieyashu Gameplay, his basara attack pull the troops nearby him. Also the effect for his attack improved and look like wind more than dark.

And the one with the tiger, I think his element is Ice cause We got the Screeenshot he performed his special attack.
Edited by ShadowThanatos, Mon Jun 7, 2010 9:21 am.
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^ That's just a part of his basara, it's always drawn people in once they get caught. He ain't wind and hasn't changed. 100% certainty.

And I didn't include the demi-NPCs cause while some look obvious some just seem like they have none at all. Don't know how they're going to make an element out of trees...
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With the remaining characters left to be added I'm wondering if it'll be mainly new faces or possibly any more returning characters?
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^ Not only that, I've seen the blackish orbs go back to Sasuke to heal him in some of the SB3 gameplay like it did in the previous games. He still has Dark.
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^About the elements : It seems mostly correct and the previous ones are no brainers['cept for Ieyasu who went from Lightning to Light...] for elements.If anything Mitsunari and Tsuru confirmed their elements at least twice from trailers through skills.

Now...we have no idea for some[the ones you listed as unsure Hondam].Would it be safe to conclude that Sorin is Fire,based on the fact he uses a tank[gunpowder etc hance fire?] and the fact he is the new "Zabii Cult Leader" making him a spiritual succesor to Zabii.Right?

Yoshi hasn't shown us any elemental skill...yet.Unless during his "circle" skill,where something connects the balls together is light...

Maggie is fire,based on Matsunaga,right?Firepowder --> Gunpowder,guns etc thus fire?Like Noh-hime?

Kanbei seems to fit the wind element just like Keiji,using extreme strenght to produce strong gales of wind.[His basara is a bit...I don't know...a tornado of power?]

And a question : where does Tachibana show his element?
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