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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Balder | Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:44 pm Post #7276 |
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Akiro, Fair enough. But it wouldn't hurt them to update the site and at the very least let people know the game has more than 4 characters. And if they had released something like the Skills Trailer instead of Sengoku Basara Hammy Heroes, you can bet no mildly informed western gamer with an interest in action games would think of this title as "mediocre" or a SW clone. I'm not asking for a megalomanous campaign but they could have already sparked the interest of the average consumer, showing what SB "is all about". But yes, I forgot SBSH is slated for a October release (I think...), so it still has 3 months and with the crummy small PC roster, it would be unwise to let all of those cats out of the bag. However, there is one downside from waiting because at E3 they're going up "against" MvC3 and, in the same genre, FotNS: Ken's Rage. If anything, there's some gaming press sites that have been doing more for this game than the actual Western branches of Capcom. I don't know if anyone else here checks it as well, but www.jeuxactu.com constantly posts Sengoku Basara 3 news. Everytime the official japanese site posts new characters, videos and/or screens, they'll post 'em as well, so there's at least some European gamers who know that the game has many good things to offer. |
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| Oojin | Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:07 pm Post #7277 |
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No matter what happens for Capcom at E3, no matter what games are present, even if they reveal MML3, it will... IT WILL All be out-shined by their own release of MvC3... If you haven't played MvC2 online... You may not understand... But because of the popularity Marvel has in the West, it's... Well...I suppose that's basically it... Marvel...people like it here... *Sigh* Anywho... Thank you Akiro- I can't wait to see some updates related to the both of them, honestly |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:35 pm Post #7278 |
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hey nobody answered my question about the armor system, i asked where does ieyasu's armor appear on his body because on the main site for the armor section it show a little animal gem thingy and how it that his armor?? |
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:52 pm Post #7279 |
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Awesome!
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We don't know yet if armour like the previous games will return,but the site has shown the whole "items/armours" you attach on weapons deal count as defence boosters too.Maybe that's it? PS : Not sure myself. |
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| Oojin | Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:55 pm Post #7280 |
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Mibu, I really wish you'd stop saying PS~ It always makes me think you're talking to me T_T And, I'm gonna go ahead and say there won't actually be armor... The system looks more like what it was in Basara 1 (CoughDevilKingsCough) But, I'm not all too sure either... -- Wait a minute, if what I think you're saying is what I just thought of... Weapon items are the only things that change appearances on your character, I dont believe armor changed your appearance in any basara, did they? |
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:33 pm Post #7281 |
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^They did.Masamune's and Yuki's Gloves,Oyakata-sama's helmet,Aniki's hat,Sunday's hat,Musashi's shoulder-pads to name a few.Some were pretty eye-pocking and imidiately caught the eye while others didn't. But,the system seems to be like what we both said.[Proof needed or a site update to make things clearer.] Edit : For Gakupo. The only Ninja greater than me is Kota- Oh,hey Kotaro.Why are you looking at me like tha- Edited by Mibu Kyoshiro, Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:32 am.
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| Gakupo | Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:34 pm Post #7282 |
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Characters only had 3 different armors which were visible when you equipped them. Speaking of which, has it been said how many armors a character will have? EDIT: Ninja'd by Mibu lol Edited by Gakupo, Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:35 pm.
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| Flashbang Incentive | Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:18 am Post #7283 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Unless SB:Sh turns out to be the BIGGEST GAME EVER!!!!! Or, DMC5 gets announed, heh heh. I really do think that the demo should be announced next week, though. I mean, they already made a stupid decision by making it an in-store only demo, so far. And I (along with pretty much everyone else), won't care for the demo after the game is out. I mean really, how stupid are the people who make the marketing decisions for some games? |
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| Oojin | Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:03 am Post #7284 |
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^ Just....just stop...please...stop... - Can anyone direct me to a link of the Tsuruhime stuff, where it's told she likes Kotaro and what not? |
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| DarkMantisTalon | Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:07 am Post #7285 |
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ooohhh so them item things where the items that you equipt to your weapons oh ok i thought that was the armor cause someone said that. |
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| Oojin | Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:17 am Post #7286 |
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^ I think what was said was that, that's how accessories are applied in this game... I'm not too sure... Ugh... But, that'd make the most sense to me... If you want a really really lame ass example, In FF7, weapons had materia slots, right? So, you'd put materia in the slot and you'd get a buff or whatever... I think that's how it works... /Hate FF7 Edited by Oojin, Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:18 am.
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| wodash | Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:26 am Post #7287 |
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undefeated in all directions
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yup,they are talking about the replay value when they mention DM4 was the worst and you can't deny it,not the overall game,DMC2 has TONS of unlockable costumes+trish,its a bit on par with DMC3 for the replay value it made you want to take on hard or DMD since you got something from it,DMC4 had no such thing,i have no interest in re playing it although i have quite a fun time playing it on normal the first time....its not a game you would want to get "back" to..... anyways,back on topic,what are maggie's default weapon actually?since in the previous page about equips there's a picture of a shotgun,so she can basically equip different starting weapons/default S string? as for the armor,it does mentioned that armors will have slots too.......IIRC Edited by wodash, Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:30 am.
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| Hondam | Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:38 pm Post #7288 |
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Harbaugh So Hard
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@Balder: My main point of that post was just to clarify what DK keeps brining up about "pissing off the fans"- the fans for this game right now is the japanese audience, not us. The small niche of some message board goers who may be pissed are getting equated to the entire fanbase, when they shouldn't be because, again, they're not part of it. |
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| Ultimate Legend | Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:05 pm Post #7289 |
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Another one since the anime board is dead
I'm wondering about that too. I think they'll change of her weapons so they all look different. |
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| Oojin | Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:08 pm Post #7290 |
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I'd assume Maggie has the ability to change weapons using various specials or whatever... So, after using said ability, her S-string becomes different... And then, selecting a different weapon, just changes the initial S-string, but you can still swap around using the various abilities |
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| Balder | Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:48 pm Post #7291 |
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I see your point and well, I can't argue with that. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Yes, I agree the main fanbase in Japan is being catered to. I have already said it before - Hanbei aside, none of the pretty boys got excluded. Personally I think that has to count for something more than just a coincidence. If anything, what might have affected said fanbase the most is the NPC status of Sasuke, Kojuuro and Mitsuhide/Tenkai. And still, at worst they're NPCs. At best, they're in the game and eligible PCs for a eventual expansion. However they did "neglect" the male fans or even female fans who like to play as female characters, but I have no idea how those fare up percentage-wise in the Japanese audience. I agree that "pissing off the fans", the ones financially keeping the game alive may not be what's happening but I believe one of the main problems with how this game has been developed is that all decisions seem to have been taken unilaterally by the team. Yes, I think they took what fans "like" under consideration but it seems they didn't consider what fans "would want". I may be wrong about this but seems they didn't run any polls or whatever to know who people would want to see, even if just a couple of characters. Again, I bring the example of SSFIV, different genre but still a character-centric title - at least 3 characters were included in accordance to the results of a popularity poll. In SB3 Ujimasa got included because Koba wanted a "funny old man" and Oichi came back because he wanted some women in the roster. Oichi is my favorite of the remaining veterans and always found old man Hojo quite amusing, so in this specific case I speak against my own personal preferences, but the logic supporting the actual decision is questionable at best. Basically, I agree they are not pissing off the fans and might be even catering to their preferences, however it seems they're not entirely listening to them or at least give them a chance to speak. "Them", the fanbase as you put it, I'm not bringing "us" into this equation. I may be wrong about all this but since no one mentioned anything about polls or anything to that effect, I assume the team took all the decisions "alone". |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:55 pm Post #7292 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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*deleted by myself* EDIT: Sorry for bringing up old stuff. I know some of us just simply won´t accept that 16 characters isn´t much. It doesn´t ruin the game, yes, but it doesn´t make it better either, as well as the cut dual audio. Just forget it. Some fans got much much less than else and those who got everything will never understand those who got allmost nothing. And the game might flop, might not. The cut dual audio and the low playable roster is a big downside that´ll decrease the saling numbers over here since anime fans are fans of the original voices and we Hack´n Slay fans are mostly used DW/SW roster sizes, even if all of them are painted over clones Though I guess getting SB2´s saling numbers of about 200,000 will be reached given that the rest of the world is a bit bigger than japan and seeing the low standards the PR offers, it seems to be a win in the eyes of CAPCOM (for which reason whatosever, if they could do more )Let´s just wait and see, but let´s stop that discussion, since it´s no use. The game is perfect, every fan got what he wanted and Kobayashi is awesome. Point.
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| Flashbang Incentive | Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:36 pm Post #7293 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Does anybody know if the Japanese version of the game will be at E3? So we can get new stuff, instead of old news translated in a more dumb way? Off-Topic: Kojima productions opened up a teaser site, and it was a bunch of animated gifs. After a certain amount of time, the gif would stop, and a Kanji letter would pop up. Reverse Gamer has got all of the Kanji characters together, but they need someone to translate it. It's only two characters, so if someone could just go to this link-http://reversegamer.com/and transate it, thanks. |
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| Hondam | Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:49 pm Post #7294 |
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Not to the degree you're making it out to be though. And correct me if I'm worng but you don't read japanese right? What japanese sites have you been too where people are going in insane rages, filled with disappointment and despair as you keep bringing up, wanting to kill Koba? Also, again and again, why do you keep saying this idea that I got everything I wanted (smiling like a 'honey cake unicorn'? ) I've explained it dozens of times that I lost just as much as you or anyone else regarding characters. Yeah I got a Honda, but lost my other favorites to NPC status. Yeah the characters are what drew many of us in and are all individual and memorable in their own respect, but do they make the whole game though? No. Did we get a good deal of new awesome additions to the cast? Yes. Will the other characters be back? Yes. Will we get more new characters down the road of the series? Yes. Has the gameplay been improved dramatically? Yes. Have the stories improved dramatically? From the looks of it, yes.
Really? You've met him? You see him kissing his reflection everyday? You've seen him walking around with a twinkle in his smile and a cig behind his ear, commanding respect and roses thrown at his feet, being cool like the Fonz? Buying out bars and pouring champagne all over his women before he goes home and thinks of more ways to piss people off before returning to work in his 5 car entourage, strolling to his ivory desk surrounded by statues of himself? Now how ridiculous does that last part just sound? This was my point DK- you're overdramatizing the living hell out of these disappointments and things you may not like. Koba is not some human playing god, not some evil dictator, nor a devil incarnate, nor some self-idolizing 'rock star'. He's one part of a larger machine that runs this franchise and series. And, yet again, he's not the director. You can complain all you like (in the complaints thread), but the dramatization of everything really, really should be toned down. And at least make sure your complaints are justifiable and aimed at the right source, not blaming every little thing on this supposed monster-of-a-man Kobayashi (who has been the exact same douche/troll/ass/whatever other words get tossed at him since the very first game. This is nothing new).
I'd love to see these story boards and cutting room floors and interviews if you have 'em. And why do you keep insinuating I'm defending the dude? You throw that around every time something like this comes up...
And? Name me one game where they followed every fan wish in a poll like that. SSBB? Oh, wait... (And technically Kanetsugu is a unique character in the game )
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:06 pm Post #7295 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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God of War 2. Uncharted 2 I could name many more, but I don´t want to forge an off-topic list. Again...forget it. Delete it. It´s not worth it. It´s perfect. Kobayashi is perfect. Everyone got what he wanted. Let´s wait for news on the game, or at least the one playable character that leads up to the 34 character roster with lots of female and playable characters, as well as 12 epic weapons and a deep story mode where every decision will probably lead to an awesome change in the story. Can´t wait to see Yoshihiro´s video and the E3, so I´m not going to let my mood down thanks to someone who got everything he wanted in one of his favourite games, who says he hates Kobayashi but constantly defends him and can´t take a joke. (I hope you see, that I mean the god/kisses mirror as jokes, even if they are bad ones...please don´t take them seriously) ![]() Again, not trying to make the game bad, or anything. Just want to know the reason why they had this "bad bad time restriction" if they announced the game so soon... Again...you got everything. (except for Musashi, probably )My favourite character I wanted in, didn´t make it. My favourite female is a NPC for no damn single reason. My favourite joke character is nowhere to be found (I don´t even know if he´s dead or picking flowers somewhere or whatever his reason is to not be there) The promises we got, were complete lies that were just twisted to be true And it seems they even took away the joke weapons (though I have hope that the fifth weapon, that look like some Tadakatsu drills might be joke weapons) The only hope left is Hisahide and alternate costumes, since I couldn´t care less for a pick A) B) story mode, were whichever path you take might lead you to other stages and bodyguards We´re like fire and ice Hondam. So let´s just let it rest. EDIT: Or better, like Tadakatsu and Mitsunari. You try to defend the thing that killed Hideyoshi and I´m trying to finish it off for it. Though there might be a deeper reason behind Ieyasu´s deeds...Kobayashi is just being a jerk. BTW, Sengoku BASARA 3 manga chapter 3 (or better said 4): Spoiler: click to toggle It´s interesting to read, since it shows exactly what NDY meant with Mitsunari being a total psycho when it comes to Hideyoshi And it explains (even though it was kinda obvious) why Ieyasu served Hideyoshi in the BASARA world. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:28 pm.
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| Hondam | Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:54 pm Post #7296 |
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... "Koba is the same ass he's been since SB1." SMH. You could go back and look through my post history to see all the times I've said that too. Or better yet, realize I simply don't care about Koba. This series does not rest entirely on his shoulders. (See: Directors, development team, character designer/s, etc etc.)
Jokes? They're overdramatic and have been beaten to death since the game was announced, posted time and time and time and time and time again. My bad if they're stale and getting tired to see.
My favorite want? NPC'd. My three other favorites whom I've wanted in since SB1? Nowhere. My favorite female? Oh, wow. NPC'd. My favorite joke character? We have the same fav.
Reserve judgement for when you actually play the story mode and game...?
All for it. Complaints should be sent over to the Complaints Thread We also have a nice Fun Area for all the Koba jokes and dramatizations you want to say. Make a fan club, go crazy. |
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| Ultimate Legend | Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:12 pm Post #7297 |
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Thanks for the spoilers. Spoiler: click to toggle So chapter 6 will probably focus on the Tokugawa and Takeda/Sanada now. |
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| Oojin | Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:19 pm Post #7298 |
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Y'all need to shut the hell up :V It's times like these I really wish I could send Newtype waves and fry people's minds... *cough* So...ya... Can anyone help me out with that request about Tsuru? |
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| Ultimate Legend | Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:28 pm Post #7299 |
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I find it funny how you get angry and then ask people to help you with a request. If someone knew, I'm pretty sure they would have told you the first time. Meh, whatever. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:31 pm Post #7300 |
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Hmmm? What do you mean Paptimus Scirocco ? I don´t see anything, except for the spoilers. I don´t any "I´m right, I know everything better" posts (from both sides BTW...so just stop it ) Yep, chapter 6 will focus on that and probably chapter 7/8 will end it all. It´ll be intersting to see if they´ll show Hanbei giving in to his illness and that being his reason for not being there and what changes Ieyasu´s mind on Hideyoshi´s "way". And I can´t wait to see what Shingen has to say to Ieyasu and how he gets hurt in that battle. Though for now I´m more interested what the E3 will bring beginning tomorrow with Microsoft´s conference and sony´s as well as Nintendo´s on Tuesday. Also it´ll be interesting to see if they´ll show some new english trailers for SB:SH, since we´ll know if the rest of the cast are "Yoshitsugu quality" or at least acceptable to allmost really good
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