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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,018 Views)
ChibiGingi
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Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:40 am
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Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:08 am
Ieyasu has the same ending no matter what happens, but has several paths to get there. I wonder if it'll be like that for all of them of if there will also be different endings for some characters. :unsure:
Eh? I believe that's only for the first story tree (red)... The other story tree has the story branching into seemingly totally different endings.

Though, It seems like the second story tree might be only available after you clear the character's 'original' story first.
That would make sense, with canon coming first, THEN the what if's afterwards. Last thing we need is another incident like EVA and have multiple endings but each being canon. Nonsensical rubbish. No, it's not a Game, but any chance to trash talk that filth and I'll jump on it.

I know in a certain other game that had branching stories, it was way too easy to get the lower branches first, which kind of killed the canon part of the stories. Then again, the SW and DW games always had a move "What if" considering it changed depending on which character/kingdom you were playing for.

For SB3, though... will there be a solid canon storyline for all (therefor having tragic endings for the Western army side), or will it follow the usual What If that seems to run rampant on most hack-n-slash games? Any word on that?
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In the entirety of the SB-series there's only a small amount of canon, permanent backdrops. Hideyoshi killing Nene, Mitsuhide's rebellion, rivalry between MasaYuki, and now with SB3 (though it'll only most likely remain as the background for this game only): Ieyasu killing Hideyoshi after his would-be world conquest, and Mitsunari seeking revenge.

As far as every other story in the series goes, they don't hold much. They may be canon at that point in time and for that game, but they'll always change it up for the next installment. The main branches of each story will msot likely be the 'true' tellings, such as Mitsunari losing for Ieyasu and (assuming so) vice-a-versa for Mitsunari's story. But when SB4/All the dead and gone characters come back, will be getting new stories and reasons and what-ifs, like its always been.
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Why are all the badass canon characters have Lighning Element :unsure: ?
Depends what your definition of badass is. :whistle:

To much lightning element IMO :mellow: I never really liked it, though, it's not as bad as wind, whisch was just a counter-productive element. I hope they worked with wind to make it better.
I mean like Yoshihiro, Muneshige and Tadakatsu :) . How come, what does the wind element actually do to opponents usually :unsure: ?
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BlackKite
Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:40 am
MasterofMusou
Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:08 am
Ieyasu has the same ending no matter what happens, but has several paths to get there. I wonder if it'll be like that for all of them of if there will also be different endings for some characters. :unsure:
Eh? I believe that's only for the first story tree (red)... The other story tree has the story branching into seemingly totally different endings.

Though, It seems like the second story tree might be only available after you clear the character's 'original' story first.
Ah you're right. I never clicked the 2nd screenshot of the branch. My mistake.

The Wind element drags enemies to you. It doesn't work on generics, special troops and unique characters though.
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EDIT: Never mind, I clearly can't read when I try to answer a question that's answered in the post above. :blink:
But yeah, Wind is nice, Keiji's Koitsuzuri and Fuuma's San made pretty good use of it for combos.

Edited by Sun and Steel, Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:39 pm.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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I'm sure you guys already noticed, but the dance Sorin does on top of the tank is (for the most part) Zabii's victory pose!
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LOL, someone at 2ch is making this pic. Too funny not to post this.. that is, if you get the meaning. wwwww
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1 : 0 for the PS3 Version :dance:

If Paul says so, you HAVE to get it.

Listen to someone who has 9 brains and the IQ of a two year old kid.

Seriously, if you can get the PS3 version...though if the Action Replay codes work and Iīd be able to play as Matsu and Muneshige, Iīll consider getting both :ph43r:
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Ohh, Paul!

Yeah, Don't have too much to say. Seen Kotaro's vid and uh, yeah, cool.

Now I really want Sorin and Muneshige playable. Oh well, wait another year or two.
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(ʘ‿ʘ)✿ what'd you say about my Ina

In case there were still some people with doubts about Musashi being in the 2nd season, he's now listed on the character page (without a design, so far) http://www.sengokubasara.tv/character.html

Think that increases his chances of being the last PC in SB3?
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^I dunno, that Nobunaga picture is making the thought of other final characters a pretty tough pill to swallow
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AND....Hisahide still has everything going for him besides the fact that there are now other characters with a lot of things going for them, too.

So, we really don't know who it will be though.

But, there really is no plot-line of Nobunaga is in. Well, there could be, if they didn't announce who the character was, and then, at the end of the main story, he comes back to life.

Lol, he'd be like, IEYASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU SPOILED HIM EVERY MOVIE!!!!!!!!!
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I'm not sure how I feel if Nobunaga makes it in, but not Hideyoshi. Hell, over all the other characters that were cut out because of dying. I'd welcome his return, but at the same time, what's the point? Why have that stupid rule anyway? Isn't Oichi technically considered an Oda officer? If Keiji represents two armies (and therefor making four good characters NPC), then how the hell can they justify Nobunaga and Oichi?

Nevermind what I said. I wouldn't be happy if Nobunaga was the last character. I'd eventually get over it, but still, that'd be major ass. Hisahide/Musashi/New Character or there will be some puppy kicking going on.
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i think it would be intresting if nobunaga is the final playable character.

im not a fan of his personality, but his play style was alot of fun

and if they bring back the DMC joke weapons for other characters, he could have his joke weapons made into Neros main weapons from DMC4.

Red Queen and Blue Rose Weapon sets.
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Nobunaga could work, if, again, he was basically the sort of "Nightmare Geese"/"Shin Gouki" type of personality who really only appeared for the sake of really bad-ass boss fight and playable. Certainly wouldn't mind (Wakamoto = <3), but Nobunaga just wouldn't be the same without the rest of his crew rolling with him.

So yeah, give me either one of the obvious, or give me some one who will really blow my mind. :hehe:
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If Nobunaga is in, I don't think he shouldn't be playable. Put him on the last floor of the Daibutokai Mode (If that's still in). I think that would be the best thing if he was in this game.

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If the last floors of the Daibutokai were made from powered-up versions of the excluded characters....damn, I'd (we'd?) all melt from the shock, I bet. Like one of those cameo arena battles in the Tales games....you just fought the "normal" final round against Tadakatsu, Yoshihiro and Muneshige when....the words "Grand Finale Bout" appears and you have to face the old cast, one after the other....with the Conqueror King and the Demon King as last menaces....

I'm getting excited just writing it...that would the be the best present ever.
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Wow, these guys want...more NPCs? You guys sure you're alright? Maybe a bit too much to drink? :uh:
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:26 am
Wow, these guys want...more NPCs? You guys sure you're alright? Maybe a bit too much to drink? :uh:
I don't. I'd just rather have either Hisahide, Musashi or a New Character in the last PC slot than Nobunaga, especially since the Oda is technically accounted for already. That would pretty much be taking a large shat on the 1 character per clan rule (I already know Tadakatsu is an exception), and a slap to the face of the characters omitted for not being alive during Sekigahara.

Had there not been those "rules", I could care less.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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It's not going to be Nobunaga....I'd bet anything on that.

As Jsun reported, this (these? ok, I'm dreaming...) new character(s) will appear in the anime....so Musashi is our highest bidder for now.

What might be suspicious is that the next scheduled update is July 14th. Why on wednesday? The 15th is not a festivity, so....what could it mean? They're going to upload something else that day? This is weird....
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Hmmm...well...that certainly is strange.

Also that new video looks like a trailer, since it has some text like the characters trailer and story trailer (at least you can see it in the "video-bubble"...maybe someone could translate it :ph43r: )

I think weīll get a trailer with the last character next week, then on thursday get his profile and the week after his video.

Last update on 29th July weīll get a launch trailer, some release infos, the info about a demo being in PSN and maybe on the Wii Marketplace (also some Tsuchi Artworks would be neat)

Itīs soon the last update! Theyīve got to give us something grand now.

As for the character discussions:

Nobunaga

What speaks for him - Heīd be a real surprise. He was in that cheaply-made Handy promotion pick.

What speaks against him - Heīd spit at every characters face that is dead :mellow: He would break the "one playable character per clan"-rule as well as kinda breaks the "no characters with the same name", since she is afterall Oda Oichi. So thatīs a pretty big "no go" since they were really hard at keeping those rules.

Musashi

What speaks for him - They could get away with him being a bonus character and give him two skills again :mellow: The guy who said that the next new characters will be in the second season of the anime

What speaks against him - A real letdown for the last character and definietly not a way to hype people with him as the last surprise...the anime means shyte seeing as Yoshihiro isnīt in the anime and still is playable in SB3 as well as there is still the possibility that the CAPCOM guy meant new characters for the english version, seeing as they still miss Motochika, Motonari, etc. and thatīs a high possibility since he said "new characterS" and we only have one left.

Hisahide

What speaks for him - Heīs really popular and would be a real villain that hasnīt been beaten to death like Nobunaga. He was in that promotional thing back then next to characters like Ieyasu and Mitsunari. He wouldīve been allready added in the PSP port but they didnīt want to since they said they wanted to save him for the next big game and give him a worty entrance (and hey, here is the next big game :rolleyes: )

What speaks against him - The Musashi fans :shifty:
That Koba likes to troll people. And he might end up being antoher Kanetsugu. Meaning Kanetsugu is the NPC-joke and Hisahide stays the NPC-badass-villain. They would also have to give him a "full moveset", basically making him a new character and thus putting work and creativity into him.

Man, canīt wait for tomorrows premiere of the SB season as well as the world cup finale. Paul said Spain would win, but Iīll still root a bit for the Oranjes, even though I like both teams

But folks, mark my words, weīll see a new PC next week!
Itīll be a tense time...who will it be? :?:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:53 pm.
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Hmmm...well...that certainly is strange.

Also that new video looks like a trailer, since it has some text like the characters trailer and story trailer (at least you can see it in the "video-bubble"...maybe someone could translate it :ph43r: )

I think weīll get a trailer with the last character next week, then on thursday get his profile and the week after his video.

Last update on 29th July weīll get a launch trailer, some release infos, the info about a demo being in PSN and maybe on the Wii Marketplace (also some Tsuchi Artworks would be neat)

Itīs soon the last update! Theyīve got to give us something grand now.

As for the character discussions:

Nobunaga

What speaks for him - Heīd be a real surprise. He was in that cheaply-made Handy promotion pick.

What speaks against him - Heīd spit at every characters face that is dead :mellow: He would break the "one playable character per clan"-rule as well as kinda breaks the "no characters with the same name", since she is afterall Oda Oichi. So thatīs a pretty big "no go" since they were really hard at keeping those rules.

Musashi

What speaks for him - They could get away with him being a bonus character and give him two skills again :mellow: The guy who said that the next new characters will be in the second season of the anime

What speaks against him - A real letdown for the last character and definietly not a way to hype people with him as the last surprise...the anime means shyte seeing as Yoshihiro isnīt in the anime and still is playable in SB3 as well as there is still the possibility that the CAPCOM guy meant new characters for the english version, seeing as they still miss Motochika, Motonari, etc. and thatīs a high possibility since he said "new characterS" and we only have one left.

Hisahide

What speaks for him - Heīs really popular and would be a real villain that hasnīt been beaten to death like Nobunaga. He was in that promotional thing back then next to characters like Ieyasu and Mitsunari. He wouldīve been allready added in the PSP port but they didnīt want to since they said they wanted to save him for the next big game and give him a worty entrance (and hey, here is the next big game :rolleyes: )

What speaks against him - The Musashi fans :shifty:
That Koba likes to troll people. And he might end up being antoher Kanetsugu. Meaning Kanetsugu is the NPC-joke and Hisahide stays the NPC-badass-villain. They would also have to give him a "full moveset", basically making him a new character and thus putting work and creativity into him.

Man, canīt wait for tomorrows premiere of the SB season as well as the world cup finale. Paul said Spain would win, but Iīll still root a bit for the Oranjes, even though I like both teams

But folks, mark my words, weīll see a new PC next week!
Itīll be a tense time...who will it be? :?:
I'm right with you. I totally agree with everything you said. It would really suck if Musashi came in with two skills and not redone. :kurokan: moment!

Well, we don't even have to wait as long for the next update. Could someone translate what the thing on the trailer icon says? PLEASE?
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well just watched the kotaro vid and he is awesome and so is muneshige and sorin, but muneshige looks like a monster, ohhh i cant wait for the expansion, and i love sorin's pelvic thrust dance on the zabii tank lmao halarious. so i guess theres no basara jump news ehhh i guess next week will prevail.

and can someone link me to a shopping site with the lowest price SB3 please and thank you.
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It's not today that we would know who is this famous mystery character?
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@Mantis : That would be play-asia.com or if you live in europe,yesasia.com since play doesn't export PSPS and PS3 games.Don't know why.

Also on the Musashi topic...as much of a Musashi fan I am ,in BASARA,real life and novel version,getting him copy-pasted from 2 would be a sham. <_< Should he get a better s-string and more skills,then yes sir I'd gladly take the cake.Even if he is the same spit-kill punk I like. :hehe:
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