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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,011 Views)
Mibu Kyoshiro
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Allow me try and mindr*** :kurokan: all of you people using Koba's trollogic!

Now...let us assume that last character is Nobunaga.Since Koba seems to have extremely stupid reasons behind anything he does,as "evidenced" by that silliconera article. :hmmm:

Let us take a simple moment and remember this : As DJ says,no one saw Nobunaga die and we know Mitsukai's changed identities.Also remember the seiyuu's of the two.Nobunaga is glorious Wakamoto and Mitsuhide is Sho Hayami.Imagine them changing roles. :o Kind of difficult? :huh: It has happened though. :OMG:

Sho voiced SDK's Nobunaga and Wakamoto voiced Onimusha's Mitsuhide.Strange huh? :huh:

Imagine them doing a name switcheroo during SB3 like that : "Hey everyone,just to inform you,I'm not Tenkai nor Mitsuhide.I'm the real Nobunaga and we agreed with Mitsuhide(who's alive by the way) all of this so we can enjoy your pain.In two words,lol trolled Ju! :ph43r: " or something along those lines.After all,Mitsuhide in the SB universe is strangelly a greater evil than Nobunaga himself...eh? :OMG:

Whew.How would that be for a trolling attempt?

Also thanks NDY for the story translations.

*Spotlight on a huchback,with his hump going to the right...lik Igor.*

Hunchback : If my hunch is right[LOL stupid double pun],the man that sang that story to Aniki is Yo-*Gets shot.*
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:33 pm
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Yoshihiro's story seems interesting. It's a surprise who he picked...
Oh, so that explains the cutscene with Yukimura and Yoshihiro together. Seems like a cool story compared to all the "REVENGE" ones.

As much as I don't want to believe it's Nobunaga, it's starting to look more and more likely. I'll still hope though!
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BTW who would be dissapointed if it were to be Nobunaga?
(not going to make a poll)

I´ll say it again, as much as I like Nobuaga´s design, voice, laugh as well as his big sword/shotgun/killer cape/spike moveset...he´s dead.

He is dead. Don´t pull of a Musou Orochi 2 or some other cheap boss recycling. What´s with bringing back villains all the time?

Just like Sephiroth. Yes, he is awesome, but do we really need him in every single thing that has VII in it? :huh:

The only thing I liked about Kobayashi´s decision so far, is that they want something new.

The Nobunaga and Hideyoshi story is done for now, they want to concentrate on other characters, on a new era and new characters.

But then they bring back Mitsuhide. That was okay, he´s Tenkai afterall.

But Nobunaga too? What the?

Why not Hisahide who wasn´t playable untill now? Why not Musashi who appeared three times in a game, never with a full movest? Why not a new character? A new female?

Why recycle old villains that have no purpose since everything that made them great is dead. It´s like the people who seriously want to revive Hitler...what´s the point? He has no place in this world anymore.

Same as Nobunaga. It´s the era of Tokugawa and Ishida, Sekigahara.
No place for the Oda, except for the small remnants.

Seriously, Hisahide is a troll, he has a reason to be there.
Musashi is a swordsman that looks for a challenge and for his way of the sword. Reason to be there.
Nobunaga? His reason is to be dead, not to be revived as some cheap demon version that´s totally out of place and just feels like a big kick in the nuts to everyone that lost his favourite character or wanted a new character <_<
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Mibu Kyoshiro
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^Say hello to Koba. :wave: He loves to troll. :facepalm: :P

Joking aside,I agree.And since we won't be getting more UNPCS[or are we?] neither for the story or any other mode,Nobunaga should stay dead too.[As much as I don't want to.] :(

Though I guess my "trolling theory abput bringing Nobunaga back" wasn't such a success :kurokan: ...or maybe disaster? :huh:
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Basara is inaccurate in terms of history. I don't care if Nobunaga comes back with 3 heads and wings for all I care.

I'm just hoping the game has alot of replay value.
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Mibu Kyoshiro
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With 16 unique characters with branching stories,12 weapons and eachy character has what?...7 skills along with their own personal levels? :uh:

I'd say that repalyablity is high. :sly:

[I don't care though,I can turn a 10 hour game to a 400 hour game out of pure love for it.] :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
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Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:20 pm
BTW who would be dissapointed if it were to be Nobunaga?
(not going to make a poll)
Bonjour.

I may be hunted with torches and pitchforks for it, but I REALLY don't want Nobunaga back. And it isn't even mainly because it would go back on everything that has been stated so far(not that it would be surprising but still). I've just never liked Nobunaga. I enjoy Wakamoto's voice work, but Nobu is such a cookie cutter villain that it drives me crazy. He doesn't have a personality. He's just evil. I've just never understood the whole "set the world ablaze" thing. I remember in the anime where his whole thing is just bringing death and destruction to everything. It's just....boring. Compare that with Hideyoshi, who certainly isn't the deepest character ever created but his personality is much more interesting, with his rise to power, relationships with Hanbei and KG and so forth. And he manages that and still is obviously the "villain".

So, no. I'll take pretty much anybody else(in the Basara franchise that is) over Nobu. It just doesn't feel right. But I'm all for his return in 3H/4 together with Maru and Noh.
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I'm rooting for Musashi to return..............
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hmmmm.......

I wonder, if Nobunaga indeed back, how his story will be? He gonna have something with a meaning to justify him being in the game.
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He has possesed Oichi and slowly takes over her body and once the killing and bloodshed of Sekigahara reaches it´s climax, he´s suddenly reborn in a demon king worthy form, being nearly undefeatable and probably glows like a pair of radiated neon colored shoes with blinking LEDs in them. :mellow:

That´s his story. I mean seriously, most of the times someone comes back it´s some really cheap story. Remember Orochi? He was summoned. How original.

I´m allready excited how they´ll bring back Wesker for Resident Evil 6.
The PTGX "Las Plagas Uroburos"-Virus took possesion of him this time? :huh:

I mean seriously, CAPCOM has a lot of games (even recent games, looks again at Resident Evil 5) that have to ruin a cool villain, by making him transform into some uber-Sharingan-Sasuke-styled Mega super boss that looks like his been run over by a truck, then was blown up like a balloon, got some tentacle rape on the way and after that was tossed into some nuclear pool mixed with the mushrooms from Super Mario.

I remember Onimusha and Resident Evil as fine examples.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:28 pm.
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I finally got my laptop back. I can post from an actual internet browser again!

First of all, yay on stage info. Sounds good.

Nay on Nobunaga being the potential candidate for the last PC. Seriously, wut?
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Like I said, his story would make no sense. I actually liked Nobunaga in SW, but in SB, no.

God, if Hisahide's most likely spot gets wasted on a reformed villain.....

Only this can describe it: *Waits for the Kurokan smiley to be turned into a Kurokan smiley performing a facepalm*
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First you complain on how he has been removed, now with the possibility of him remaining you complain? I love this board.
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TheTyrant1992
Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:17 pm
First you complain on how he has been removed, now with the possibility of him remaining you complain? I love this board.
Yeah, I agree. But these "people" have been complaining about everything. BASARA fans are spoiled and impossible to please. :kurokan:
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TheTyrant1992
Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:17 pm
First you complain on how he has been removed, now with the possibility of him remaining you complain? I love this board.
Before you make this claim, you would have to go back and check every specific person who has complained about each independent scenario to make sure they are the same people complaining about both things as opposed to simply turning this entire board into one hive-mind entity.

The more reasonable explanation is that some people complain about one thing, and some people complain about another.

I happen to be in the anti-Nobunaga camp. Never cared for the guy and would have rather seen many other characters return before him. That being said, there are a bunch of people who really like him, and I already have a ton of playables I'm interested in, so I'm not gonna complain.

It is pretty silly storywise though. Whatever story they make up for Nobunaga they could have made a similar-yet-better version for Hisahide. Then we would have gotten a new character, a major villain, and a slew of "dead" characters not being stepped on because of the "story".

On a more positive note, Yoshihiro's story sound so great. Nothing more awesome than an old man traveling the country to try and teach the kids a thing or two, all with a giant sword. Most people don't like him, but I'm actually very happy at his inclusion and I'm excited to see the new tweaks to his unique playstyle.
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I've been reading this board since before your first post, so I know for a fact that the majority of people were fan Raging over the fact that some of their favorites were "Taking a break." Just because I don't comment often, or have 25,314 posts doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:27 pm
I've been reading this board since before your first post, so I know for a fact that the majority of people were fan Raging over the fact that some of their favorites were "Taking a break." Just because I don't comment often, or have 25,314 posts doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.
And that doesn't mean those same exact people are now the ones complaining about Nobunaga being in the game. Different people have different opinions, again, this board is not one single hive mind.
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When I said "first you complain" Im talking to the people that complained about him being removed, then when I said "Now with the possibility of him remaining you complain," Im talking to those that are now saying that they DON'T want him in, compared to early when they DID want him in. I shouldn't have to post a list of names just so you know the exact people I'm talking about. Maybe you should reread those 332 pages if your still confused.
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Boy...20 days without my poor widdle computer made for a lot of catching up to do on this thread, alas I'm somewhat disappointed that the elusive 16th PC hasn't made it's appearance yet.
I think I read the Demon King of the 6th Heaven is eligible for a return? He's a personal favorite, but for the sake of greater interests he should pass the torch this time.

Fuuma's video, like many others ends up being a stage video more than anything else. Loved the Otomo stage. The stage theme sounds like it will live up to the awesomeness of "Welcome!!".

To summarize:
- possible Nobunaga return
- Kurokan face
- Kotaro video
- commercials
- stories exposed in the official site
- certainty that there will only be one more PC
- Paul making a obvious choice that requires to divination skills
- Wesker back in RE6?!!?

Did I miss any other relevant things? My sincere apologies for making such a question but I'm still a bit braindead from re-installing programs and copy-paste files...
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Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:47 pm
Boy...20 days without my poor widdle computer made for a lot of catching up to do on this thread, alas I'm somewhat disappointed that the elusive 16th PC hasn't made it's appearance yet.
I think I read the Demon King of the 6th Heaven is eligible for a return? He's a personal favorite, but for the sake of greater interests he should pass the torch this time.

Fuuma's video, like many others ends up being a stage video more than anything else. Loved the Otomo stage. The stage theme sounds like it will live up to the awesomeness of "Welcome!!".

To summarize:
- possible Nobunaga return
- Kurokan face
- Kotaro video
- commercials
- stories exposed in the official site
- certainty that there will only be one more PC
- Paul making a obvious choice that requires to divination skills
- Wesker back in RE6?!!?

Did I miss any other relevant things? My sincere apologies for making such a question but I'm still a bit braindead from re-installing programs and copy-paste files...
Don't think so. Oh, the official promo trailer thing that we saw months ago is on the site.

The Tyrant, for example, I never cared for Nobunaga when I saw his design in DK. I never cared for him when I played as him SB2. I never cared for him when he was confirmed to be "taking a break". So, yeah, robotzombie is right. Welcome to the forum, btw. You did the same thing I did. Before I joined I read a lot of this thread.
Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:18 am.
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eklineage
Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:45 pm
Basara is inaccurate in terms of history. I don't care if Nobunaga comes back with 3 heads and wings for all I care.

I'm just hoping the game has alot of replay value.
Onimusha 2 Nobunaga confirmed, complete with all of his demonic powers. :lol:

That would actually be kinda cool now that I think about it, but not cool enough for him to get in over Musashi or Matsunaga.
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THAT IS ONE AWESOME AVATAR.

The truth is, he shouldn't be in over Hisahide or Musashi. I've said that many times. But, it is the truth. And, next week, has to be the final PC......cool.
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Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:42 am
THAT IS ONE AWESOME AVATAR.

The truth is, he shouldn't be in over Hisahide or Musashi. I've said that many times. But, it is the truth. And, next week, has to be the final PC......cool.
Actually, they could just wait until the day it comes out to reveal #16, or just not reveal #16 at all.

And thanks. ^_^
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Sho voiced SDK's Nobunaga and Wakamoto voiced Onimusha's Mitsuhide.Strange huh? :huh:

well,SDK nobunaga and SB mitsuhide isnt that much different,that's for sure,young,white hair,crazy laughs,not yet dead,moustache-less.etc.

can't say the same with onimusha's mitsuhide and SB nobunaga though,but both of them have a moustache IIRC,that's for sure....>.<
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Yeah, I agree. But these "people" have been complaining about everything. BASARA fans are spoiled and impossible to please. :kurokan:
"most" not all,at least not me,since there's not indication that they will shorten/dumb down the S string and cut the BASARA attack from the game and forces us to only have 2 skills forever,i will not rant yet......at the JP version at least,that is to say i'm quite pleased with that i'm witnessing so far... :OMG: :kurokan: :facepalm: :dance: <is witnessing all the stuffs with a mixed feeling

anyways,regarding balder's summarization

- possible Nobunaga return
perhaps,it does play into view quite fittingly,since many people here wants a mastermind of evil that is not mitsunari or yoshitsugu,the main difference being they want matsunaga or some other evil badass,not the demon king himself

- Kurokan face
is awesome,nuff said :kurokan:

- Kotaro video
shows us that his attack power is still as low as ever,and still have his stupid old BASARA attack despite having many cool new skills,also shows us that he's possibly the only character that have air versions of almost all of his ground skills,making him able to bring 5~6 skills in one go...

- commercials
is boring,nothing aside from some new dialogues,give us the game already!

- stories exposed in the official site
going to learn to read katakana more these days,just played SSFIV and realized how messed up the US subtitle is when i heard the JP voice,definitely not buying the US version of SB3 for the story trans,i'll stick with my own hearing and NDY's script translations,if you don't mind........

- certainty that there will only be one more PC
which is certainly better than none

- Paul making a obvious choice that requires "to" divination skills
you mean NO divination skills,right?they should've made paul predict who the last character is or who would win? KW's angry mobs/led by DK or hiroyuki kobayashi instead......

- Wesker back in RE6?!!?
if they keep the trend i thought its leon/claire/bruce/fongling/anyone that isnt chris's turn to appear in RE6(a la house of the dead)?was expecting majini/las plagas ada,that "hunk" guy or even G-tyrant sherry birkin as the evil final boss instead of wesker again......
Edited by wodash, Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:08 am.
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If it is Nobunaga, fine. But I really don't see him fitting into the storyline in any way.

Again, save him as the last character that you'll have the chance to earn through Dai-Budokai or something like that. It could be a sort of "Tatari" (Trick of God) type of thing where Nobunaga, who definitely would be a nightmare to most, could be challenged. Again, not unlike my "Nightmare Geese styled super-secret boss fight" idea.

It could be a very interesting thing, even if it doesn't make a lick of sense. But hey....to throw us back to where this board should be....let us just remember...

THIS. IS. BASARA.

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