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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:07 am Post #8476 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Yes, I have said that, many times. But, with Nobunaga, it's obviously going to not have them have anything to do with eachother. Masamune, and Yukimura, probably. With Keiji and Mitsunari? No. Sure, I can hope for some epic branching storyline, but, I guess I just have to hope. NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT. DANTE. I would take him as a free mode only character over person who takes entire story line and kills it. You know what? I'm gonna wait. Yes, I just said that. I am gonna wait, and see what the Japanese site puts up. I'm not gonna believe the Korean site. Why would they randomly get the info? And then decide to leak it before anyone else? It just doesn't make sense. So, my childish rants can be skipped, for now, hopefully. Can someone remind me who Keiji fights for again? East or West? Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:08 am.
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:07 am Post #8477 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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I could care less. He could have the best gameplay update in the entire game but he'll still be a cop out for me. At least until they fix this issue in the expansion. |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:06 am Post #8478 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Remember guys, this doesn't mean 100% confirmation. That's all I can say. |
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| robotzombie | Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:32 am Post #8479 |
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Um, yes it does. |
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| ZeroTheWarrior | Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:48 am Post #8480 |
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Am I... A monster?
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...everytime i come back here, i see a ton of people talking about videos i've never heard of, and mentioning things im not understanding... what videos have i missed? all i have seen are the videos on the front page, but i hear people talking about someone acting cool over killing 5 peons, and other stuff... now... what are you guys talking about, whats 100% confirmed? nobunaga? god, maybe i should camp out on this forum 24/7 so im not left in the dark, because no one is filling me in... |
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| Ultimate Legend | Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:51 am Post #8481 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/basara3/main.html http://www.capcomkorea.com/basara/basara_style01.html http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6643066/ http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6649075/ Everything you need to know is right there. |
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| DarkDante | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:02 am Post #8482 |
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A new power is rising
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Come on guys do I really need to dig up those old posts with people slitting their wrists and pulling their hair out over the Demon King's apparent demise? Now we are complaining that he's back... seems it's "cool" to jump on the hate train for just about any reason right now. People were complaining about not enough "badass" characters before, then we get the baddest of all back... And people still aren't happy. Besides if Oichi can be in it, why not Nobunaga? She also has no right to be here, but oh I forget she has "jugs". Personally I welcome him back, Nobunaga is to SB what Akuma is to SF. Edited by DarkDante, Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:04 am.
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| ZeroTheWarrior | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:02 am Post #8483 |
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Am I... A monster?
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ok, thanks... ...uh, can someone tell me, is my avatar still visible? to me, its appearing as a broken image, or... saying bandwidth exceeded, its an image i found on photobucket... i searched on photobucket, found it, to see if it was still there... and then checked my profile page on here, and... it was working, came back to the forum, working... refreshed, now its not working again. what the hell is going on? i wish we could use images from our computers as our avatars, that way i could just save the image and use it, instead of relying on unstable photobucket crap. |
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| RTsharpshooter | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:11 am Post #8484 |
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Pay close attention! This is justice REBORN!
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Huh...well....if that don't beat all... I'll take the "wait and see" approach on this one. I'm not in any way doubting the legitimacy of this or anything, but I'll take more than a general story description, one CG and one screenshot to make up my mind on this. Is this, to quote the bonus features of Get Smart, "a kick in the wiggles"? Sure, in a way. Am I a bit disheartened that Mr. Ma-oh gets to come back, but Nagamasa, Ranmaru, and Noh are still in the dirt? Naturally. Am I still gonna rape Sekigahara with the boundless powers of the netherworld? Absolutely. FLAMESHIELD ![]() Spoiler: click to toggle As everyone has already said: There's always Heroes. @DK To even grasp the idea that this will be the last iteration of the franchise seems like a joke to me. If Nobunaga was included merely for the sake of business and marketing, and the Basara series has enjoyed exponential popularity (in Japan) over the last few years, why would they stop? Case and point: the new season of the anime premiered with the best ratings of its time slot since a couple years ago. What about that amusement park game at Fuji-Q someone posted a while back? What about the interview at Siliconera where Koba had at least off-handedly mentioned "where the franchise goes from here" (unless I'm remembering that one wrong, he didn't actually describe anything on that subject). It would be like Square-Enix announcing tomorrow that they're scrapping the Kingdom Hearts franchise. I'm all done. Now, just 10 more days. 10 more days. "Cause you know Jaques...after the war...comes the lovin'." Edited by RTsharpshooter, Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:26 am.
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| necrosis | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:15 am Post #8485 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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Amen. Fickle hypocrites, so many of them. "Waaah, we complain about anything". I swore I was the only one happy about this, but I'm glad at least ONE person isn't crying like a babe about an old series fave returning. in b4 "Waaah sekigaraha plot everybody gotta die waaah" since when has basara ever been about heavy plot, shut up. This is a series built on hack and slash and gay doujin. Face the facts. Nobody cares about plot.
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| Amarix | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:29 am Post #8486 |
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http://www.capcomkorea.com/basara/basara_style01.html Looks like it was removed. Guess someone got in trouble over the leak XP And jeez. Is Nobunaga playable really so bad? My favorite character, Nagamasa, is six feet under, and I'm still stoked to play our lovable shotgun wielding Demon Lord. |
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| wodash | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:31 am Post #8487 |
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undefeated in all directions
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one?if you meant matsunaga,he was in TWO games,as an NPC....... as for the nobunaga confirmation......there,koba gives you the ultimate mastermind behind all evil,back then people whine that the plot is not satisfying because neither mitsunari,yoshitsugu,ieyasu,or kanbei is not fitting as the true antagonist and wanted a super uber mastermind that all the characters will fight at the end,now you got one...... Spoiler: click to toggle same thing happens with KOEI UK back in multiraid 1,they spoil too much "fury" artworks that KOEI JP haven't even posted yet in their site,and it got removed pretty quick after that for me,nobunaga is more like geese howard,he always died awesomely(dozle zabi style demon flames in SB1,falls off his castle in SB2H,etc),unlike vega/bison who died a gruesome death each time(exploded to bits in alpha due to unstable body,SGS'ed by gouki in the SFII retcon,etc) but if want to draw a capcom line,SB nobunaga IS bison/vega,since he's voiced by the same dude after all..... Edited by wodash, Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:52 am.
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| robotzombie | Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:46 am Post #8488 |
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Again, I explained this, but you can't just say people are hypocrites because you remember some people saying one thing and now you see some people saying another. You are just marrying the people complaining now to the people complaining then without actually knowing if any of them are the same people. Again: people have differences of opinion, this board is not one single entity, and everyone has a right to be excited about or bummed about news that comes out. |
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| DarkDante | Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:27 am Post #8489 |
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A new power is rising
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And how do you know we don't know? I don't post all that often nowadays, but I have been around since SB3 was announced. I won't name names but it's quite clear if you do a little searching yourself you will see who was saying what... |
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| ClubClover | Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:28 am Post #8490 |
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Oh please everyones complaining |
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| Ultimate Legend | Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:45 am Post #8491 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:46 am Post #8492 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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I can't remember what I said yesterday, much less what I've said months ago (and I'm far too lazy to keep record of such things). But I don't remember if I was more upset about no Nobunaga as I was about no Hideyoshi... at least I've technically played Nobunaga (if you count that POS Devil King). Never got to try the Gorilla king... I think that saddens me more that he's still no in the game. Granted, Hideyoshi dying IS important to the plot, so... makes sense. I mean, if Hideyoshi didn't die, then Mitsunari wouldn't be emo and therefor, no reason to go to war at Sekigahara. So, at least it makes sense to me. (Still, would love to play him. Some day.) As for who's hypocritical and who's not. Everyone's hypocritical at some point in time... whoever keeps track of it just needs to accept that haters gonna hate, whiners gonna whine, and those who still want to enjoy the game can simply enjoy the game despite the haters and whiners. Deal with it? |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:54 am Post #8493 |
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Mewshuji
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Wow, Nobunaga you look kinda cool. Seriously though, while I AM psyched that Nobunaga's back... Really? He's the SUPERAWESOMESECRET 16th character? Kobayashi I am disappoint. Now I wonder- Is the demon thing part of his moveset, or is it a mere Cutscene Powerup? Hopefully the former... And my opinion on the whining- Eh, I don't mind it, it's mostly reasonable, but y'all don't see me whining about Kasuga not makin' it in now do ya?
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:59 am Post #8494 |
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Well, at least Koba told us pretty early about Kasuga not being playable. As opposed to setting up a system in which a lot of us have come to accept, then blow it completely out of the water at the last minute with a character that should be dead (and has told us he was dead and not coming back for this game). This is still pretty recent; those tired of the whining need to probably just accept that it's still a fresh wound and it'll take a bit for us to get over it. I'm certain that once the game is in our systems, the lot of us whining will have already gotten over it (and/or suffer in silence and wait patiently for the Heroes expansion later on). It's been, what, a day, two days? Still new news, therefor understandable why so many are ragequitting at the moment. Edit: And in defense of those tired of the complaints, I can understand their point as well. All things considered, this game's pretty much been one wacky rollercoaster ride, and at this point, seeing so many people whine about one character seems trivial and annoying, especially with the game coming out in a week or two. So, I can understand why they're getting annoyed too. In the next week and a half, though, those importing the game simply won't care either way. Edited by ChibiGingi, Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:07 am.
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| Divine Justice | Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:13 am Post #8495 |
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No they weren't. I'd always thought it would be someone entirely new, never saw how Hisahide lent any relevance whatsoever. And Musashi was the surprise character once before, so his inclusion as #16 would be completely underwhelming. So yeah, I disagree that they were ever likely as the final PC. Maybe back when we thought there would be 3 more, but not with only one left. And well, you basically just said most of this board is lacking half a brain.
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:26 am Post #8496 |
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... I care a little? All in all I think I'm finally over Nobunaga's return. I guess it could have been Itsuki or something far worse, though what is worse than Itsuki? |
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| Jsun | Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:30 am Post #8497 |
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KOEI Warriors Forever!
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Kind of funny to see everyone in a raging mood when a month ago everyone thought there was only going to be 15 playable characters. At least we get our old pal Nobunaga back plus something more to add to the story. Even if we did get Musashi, people would still complain about the other half of the roster being unplayable. Like I said before, the more characters you throw into the mix the more the quality runs down on the gameplay, story, and other crap. There needs to be a balance and that is what this game currently has right now. A good amount of characters, story, and nice visual graphics. If you pay attention to other games out there with sequels, you'll notice how the balance starts to tip with bigger rosters. People should study or at least acknowledge what it takes to make a game and how they decide where the money goes. |
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| robotzombie | Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:34 am Post #8498 |
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Thank you for this, you really can't say it enough. But people will still complain about needing more characters and never realize the dilution it causes. Edited by robotzombie, Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:35 am.
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:40 am Post #8499 |
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Eh, the Quality over Quantity issue again. Still, would turning a few of the NPCs into FMO have hurt the quality of the game so much? Would 20 playable characters make the game any worse than 16? Would the balance have been that bad? Either way, beating a dead horse won't help. What's done is done... I concede with my rants now... come October, little of this will even have mattered. So long as I can mindlessly bash the x or square button, all will be well. Edit: Garry Chalk did Devil King... what are the odds that Capcom can bring him back for the role this time around? I would probably **** my pants in joy and forget all evil existed in the SBverse if Garry did his voice again. However, it is unlikely. One can dream... one can dream. Edited by ChibiGingi, Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:51 am.
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| Jsun | Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:04 am Post #8500 |
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KOEI Warriors Forever!
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It's all about the budget with making these games and appropriating the funds to the right places. If they decide to have 16 playable characters then they will have to make sure they can afford it. Adding even one extra playable character could become costly to the project. You have to pay the voice actor, the art team, the people working on the programming for the character, story writers...etc It takes months and years to develop these games. If you're adding something new then you're also going to be subtracting from something else. The money spent on one extra playable character could be used polishing up the story, the graphics, the gameplay, or even the marketing of the game. There needs to be a balance of everything so the game is just right. If you're working with a tight budget then you don't have many options to put everything out there. That is why you have these expansions being made, which allow developers to supply the unused/extra content by piggy backing the first game's financial success. |
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