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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,300 Views)
Kiheiji
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I guess the Xs could mean that in the year, a character died. In 1560, it was the year when Nobunaga attained his first major victory by slaying Yoshimoto. 1573, Nobunaga defeated the coalition formed by Shogun Yoshiaki which also includes Nagamasa and Shingen, who both died that year. 1582, we have three major events, the destruction of the Takeda, incident at Honnoji, and the beginning of Hideyoshi's conquest. Now all that's left is to focus the game in Sekigahara, whoch occured in 1600.
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Claus
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Well, 1582 had four X's on it, i remember that -_-

Which could definately mean Nobunaga, Nouhime, Ranmaru, and Mitsuhide

But, it could also mean, instead of Mitsuhide, Shingen, it could be either, but there were no X's at the time of Hideyoshi's death, so i guess he could be in....

If each X means a character gone, then thats only six characters cut, which i actually don't mind too much...
Edited by Claus, Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:09 pm.
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Kiheiji
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If that's the case, Kenshin and some others might still be in the game.
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Claus
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Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:13 pm
If that's the case, Kenshin and some others might still be in the game.
And we all know how much Kenshin wan'ts to come back! -_- *points at title*

:whistle:

Anyway, i really do hope its true, but, i shouldn't, because i might just get dissapointed.... but i can't help it! :wacko:
Edited by Claus, Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:20 pm.
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I think there is still hope for Hisahide, the thing is he's not involved with the main story line per se (Azai, Honnoji, Hideyoshi etc.) so maybe he's still alive... He's a cunning schemer who sits back and watches as the animals kill each other. It's not his style to get his hands dirty.

Although *SPOILERS* his death in the anime doesn't bode too well for him... Still if nothing more, it would save Capcom needing someone new to be a nuisance in Conquest mode!
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Claus
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SO if we are right, then Hisahide is in!

As well as Kenshin, Hojo, Kennyo....

AS little a role it may be, The Honjonji(sp?) still have a place, though its small, if Magoichi is added, Kennyo could be a part of his back story, he still has a chance though small.

And the Hojo do have some importance, they ally with the Tokugawa, its not like they do anything Mind blowing or life changing, the generals just participate in Ieyasu's campaings....

The more i think about it, the more i think only 6 characters are cut....

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DarkDante
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So the six could conceivably be Mitsuhide, Nobunaga, Ranmaru, Nouhime, Nagamasa and Shingen? Well I could live with that. Hideyoshi could still be around and Oichi, Hisahide, Kenshin etc.
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Good thing we have a thing to lighten up the mood a bit, if you look at it like that, it´s not that bad. As long as nothing´s confirmed there´s allways hope. Like for Hisahide, Kenshin and the Toytomi Duo

Oh BTW, the idea I had with Noh´s two endings were it´s hinted that she´s pregnant...I´m not so into the Oda afterstory...is there any son of Nobunaga who´s worthy of being in SB3? Who might fit in?

Also only 1-3 days till we get something (since tomorrow is the stupid press only thing, I guess on friday too and finally on Saturday there´s the public opening...so we might have to wait a bit longer...or we´ll really get something tomorrow...well I don´t mind as long as we get something this week :P )
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Kiheiji
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I don't think any of Nobunaga's sons will make it, but his grandson Hidenobu might be added.
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I agree DarkDante. More playable characters on a battlefield is a wish of mine for the BASARA series. And I can see where your coming from saying that Sekigahara would be awesome if Capcom decide to implement it.

I love the "old school" feel of BASARA games, in which you fight your way through a "stage" and fight the "boss"at the end, but imagine how amazing the Realm Divide battle, Sekigahara would be if every single general who fought in the war appeared. It'd be one giant brawlin' party :XD

Anyway, we're getting real close to new info now. w00000000000000~
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AS little a role it may be, The Honjonji(sp?) still have a place, though its small, if Magoichi is added, Kennyo could be a part of his back story, he still has a chance though small.

you mean the honnoji.......it'l most likely only mentioned or at least showed as a movie or something in the narration,aside from that,i don't think it will be in if they cut the odas from SB3,and its not funny to just put honnoji in SB3 without the odas playable....

just wait for the eventual HEROES expansion



a bit off topic:KOEI has used their "bomb" to level up the playing field by adding ryu hayabusa to multiraid,a good move on the contrary as long as they didnt add him to the regular DW or SW,that's just ridiculous

same with SB,if they want to add a very unrelated guest character,do it in a spinoff,not on the main game

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DarkDante
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Oh BTW, the idea I had with Noh´s two endings were it´s hinted that she´s pregnant...I´m not so into the Oda afterstory...is there any son of Nobunaga who´s worthy of being in SB3? Who might fit in?
Oda Nobutada is by far Nobunaga's most talented son. Before his death, he was well on his way to becoming a great general in his own right. Nobunaga even named him sole commander of the planned invasion of Shikkoku. However the problem is he died along with his father near Honno-ji...
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AS little a role it may be, The Honjonji(sp?) still have a place, though its small, if Magoichi is added, Kennyo could be a part of his back story, he still has a chance though small.

you mean the honnoji.......it'l most likely only mentioned or at least showed as a movie or something in the narration,aside from that,i don't think it will be in if they cut the odas from SB3,and its not funny to just put honnoji in SB3 without the odas playable....

just wait for the eventual HEROES expansion
No, not the temple honnoji, the guy, Kennyo Honjanji? (sorry, i always forget his name) the leader of the Honjanji reinforcements? i was talking about him, not honnoji
Edited by Claus, Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:04 am.
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Kiheiji
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It was Honganji. Kennyo was also known as Kosa.
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Ah yes, thank you, i always mess up his name >.<

SO yeah, i was talking about Honganji Kennyo (or Kosa) he could still have a small part if Magoichi is in, since He did work for them for some time, though it was during the Nobunaga period, this is BASARA after all they can make it work...

Magoichi can serve Kennyo and then Kennyo allies with Mitsunari, Magoichi then leaves and Joins the date, since he did serve the Date for a little bit (well, on of him anyway)
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Thing about Kennyo is well.... uhhh I don't think Capcom really ever cared about him lol, he was shown dead within 10 seconds of the anime opening. >_>
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I wouldn't want to keep my hopes up about that, honestly...

Kobayashi had sent a clear signal when he talked about the Toyotomi and Oda eras being over.

I don't want to be disappointed again...so I'll just assume we'll only have characters more or less directly involved with Sekigahara and the events leading up to it.

I'd like to be surprised, but honestly...I know some people hate this, but if they're going to cut people, I don't want them to do it half-assedly. Cut Shingen but not Kenshin? Nobunaga/Nagamasa but not Hisahide....?


I think I'd rage more at this inconsistency than the fact that characters have been cut...
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:58 am.
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Well, stranger things have happened, as the saying goes. ^_^

Speaking of the anime though, as some one put it above...I wonder if it too, may have some relevance on things that are planned to proceed in the "BASARA-verse" as a whole.

*Here I go again!!! :hehe: *

I mean, think about it. Conveniently, the anime took no small effort to give the "peace out" to those who more or less are likely to get the axe when it comes to SB3. Pretty much the only ones who stand to be an exception to that rule, when it comes to the game are a) Tadakatsu, b) Shimazu and b) Ieyasu (though I think the symbolic death of the "kid" was meant to be a clue to what was to come any way).

In this light, even the fact that Kenshin and Shingen were "taken out of the fight" towards the end of the season, should have been a taken as a possible warning of what is to come.

Now, what's the possible flip-side of this? Well, besides the aforementioned "exceptions" I listed above, there are a number of things that could still stand to be noted.

Hisahide and Kotaro. Neither left bodies behind. And as should be always a rule in these types of things, "no body (or otherwise not being to see him breathe his last) = no confirmed death". So, in that light, we may not have seen the last of these two. In fact, part of me hopes that, if nothing else, Hisahide may get at least the proper thing of, a la KG's side-story in HEROES, being shown in a flash-back as the one who turned Hideyoshi, once a good man, into the "tyrant with the BEST of intentions" he is currently. And Kotaro should have no reason to die, as he and his clansmen could just be bandits, as noted before.

Hideyoshi and Hanbei. These two are going to be the "main villains" in the anime season coming up. Therefore, it stands to reason that, much like my old stance from pages ago, they could still stand to be in the game. After all, how disappointing would it be, for possible new fans of the series, to see such cool characters on screen, in the anime, but not have a chance to play as them in SB3 (which should be released around the same time)? Much like the Oda and Mitsuhide in the SB2 games, I could see Hanbei and Hideyoshi having less focus in the overall plotline, but they could still be lurking around, and their storylines being the stuff of "what-if".

Ranmaru. Now, this is possibly what I think is the most interesting of the possibilities. In the anime, as we all should know, Ranmaru LIVED, even as the rest of the Oda bunch perished. Furthermore, we see him getting paired up with Itsuki in the last episode (not unlike how things were done in Itsuki's SBBH storyline).

So, what I am thinking? I'm wondering if even though "Ranmaru" died at Honnouji, along with his old masters, what if that lil scamp, under a new alias, some how ended up with Itsuki any way, and furthermore, joined her group?

It's always been suggested, through the myths and legends surrounding the Jidai, that some people may not have "died", but instead may have just became monks, flee to parts unknown, or any other myriad of things beyond just dying. For the sake of the BASARA-verse, I wouldn't be surprised if Maru possibly got such treatment, especially if they REALLY wanted to push that Itsuki/Maru pairing as much as they seemingly do. I could imagine him not wanting to fight any more, but when **** starts going down at Sekigahara, and endangering both him, Itsuki and the home they're trying to build together, maybe he would be willing to pick up his arrows one more time...
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Hmmm streaming the Sony keystone presentation at TGS right now... not impressed by what I'm hearing, which is not much at all which we don't already know. >_>

Anyway I really hope we get some info today, Koei already started to show most of their stuff on SW3, Strikeforce, Zill'O etc. I don't see why we can't get any SB3 info even if it is still press only now.
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The thing is, I don't think Capcom is scheduled to show any thing of theirs today. Could be wrong, but I haven't found anything on NeoGAF to point to such a thing...
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And just found our first info on SB3@TGS. The theme song is 'Naked Arms' by T.M.Revolution. Yay Nishikawa again. ^_^
http://gemaga.sbcr.jp/archives/2009/09/basara_3.html
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September 23, 2009 - Today at the Tokyo Game Show Capcom announced a couple of brand new titles that will be coming to North America next year. One of these titles is called Sengoku BASAR Samurai Heroes and is described as an action game that resembles the Devil May Cry Series. This makes sense considering it is being produced by Hiroyuki Kobayashi, who has worked on Devil May Cry for many years.

The game takes place in 16th century Japan when Samurai still waged war against huge armies. Capcom tells us that there will be unlockable characters and a strategic element that involves unlocking generals to control massive armies.

Sengoku BASARA will be available on PlayStation 3 and Wii with online co-op available only on Sony's console. This game will be on display at the show so we'll likely have more information on it coming to you in the near future.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/102/1027882p1.html

Wait, so they're bringing SB3 into the US under a new name? Sounds good.
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Hey, yeah I just found this while visiting Capcom-Unity too. :OMG:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2009/09/23/tgs_2009_sengoku_basara_samurai_heroes_?num=5&pg=2
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Release Date: TBD 2010
Genre: Action
Platform: PLAYSTATION®3, Wii
Rating: Pending
Developer: Capcom®
Price: TBD
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The next evolution in producer of Devil May Cry 4, Hiroyuki Kobayashi’s BASARA series is coming to PLAYSTATION®3 and Wii with Sengoku BASARA Samurai Heroes. Set during a tumultuous period of Japanese history, Sengoku BASARA Samurai Heroes follows players as they fight their way to the dramatic battle of Sekigahara. Players will take up the swords and spears of more than a dozen fierce samurai warriors in huge battles against hundreds of opponents in many exciting stages that lead up to the main event.

Featuring unique playable characters, as well as supporting generals who will make it easier to command and lead armies, players will see the battle from the perspective of each military commander with the ultimate goal of re-writing history to rule all of 16th century Japan.

In the dynamic new “Hero’s Story” mode, the player’s decisions impact history with a redesigned story mode. Based on choices made by the player, new drama unfolds as friends become enemies, enemies become friends, and a new Sengoku story unfolds. Adding a new strategic element to the game, forces can fight for control/taking over of camps and ultimately entire battlefields.

Features:

Fight your way through many exciting battlefields until all heroes have gathered at the decisive battle of Sekigahara

Single-player game evolves based on players decisions and actions

Featuring unique playable samurai warrior characters

Upgradeable weapon types allow players to extend or add special abilities

Dramatic “Heroes’ Story” mode changes history based on players decisions as the story progresses

Hm... still no confirmation on 'that' eh? Well, even if it turns out to be the worse scenario, I already have our SB wiki as a safe haven. :rolleyes:
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Well, well, WELL, now.

Looks Capcom is indeed serious about trying to bring BASARA back over to the West. And it looks to be a much more proper way of doing things this time around.

Still going to import, because I don't trust SCEA and their demand for a dubbing. Plus, Like i would be willing to wait. XD
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Well I'm confused :S is this a port of SB3 or not? I thought it was until I saw the "dozen characters" thing, surely SB3 will no doubt have at least 20+ characters??

I hope it's not another bastardized port... still the branching paths, and choices effecting future battles sounds promising.
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