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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:39 am Post #1176 |
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Old men aficionado
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Well, Zabii and Itsuki (and Kasuga) are characters outside the flow of time, imho...they've got their niche of fans, and were present since their first game...not that I care too much about those two girls (might as well have people more involved with the game events), but they're kind of iconic, I think... Though I agree with you about Kennyo (and Yoshimoto and Ujimasa...) even though I like him a lot... Let's hope SB3H brings back "normalcy". Have the Demon King and the Conqueror King come back from the dead, along with the Hero of Justice and everyone else! (plus new people!) You're right that Hisahide could work out, but then couldn't everyone? But after all they built his relationships with the Date most of all, so who knows...if Shingen's still alive, nothing stops Hisahide at this point. Oh, an unrelated thing: DK (mainly), I'm sure you'll have to be ready to get pissed, because I bet anything you want that there WILL be NPCs in this game. At the very least 3 of them. Believe it. |
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| HokutoNoBen | Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:40 am Post #1177 |
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Supreme Warrior-Scholar
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Good grief, Kobyashi. Make up your damn mind, stop trying to mind-game us...and terribly at this point. Any way...Makishima's right. There likely WILL be NPCs again. It's just too much in the way of "easy" fodder for a future expansion/sequel. I merely wonder now though, will this be an easy excuse to make the likes of some of these older characters NPCs all over again, or what...? |
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| DarkDante | Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:49 am Post #1178 |
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A new power is rising
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Miyazaki your dad sounds crazy!! Is he one of those ultra patriotic types or something! I mean not being allowed to even play Japanese games is a bit much... Anyway I will 100% be getting the Japanese version as soon as it's released, even though I played Devil Kings before the original Sengoku Basara, I've become so used to the seiyuus that going back to English VA would be kinda weird... Voices like Masamune, Yukimura, Ieyasu, Keiji, Motochika, Nobunaga etc. have almost become ingrained into my mind from SB. And call me an optomist but I have no doubt Hisahide will return, I mean since his appearence in Heroes his popularity exploded, Nobunaga has always been the villain in SB. But Hisahide kinda stole the show as your classic badguy he was everything Nobunaga is not: elegant, refiend and a man of the mind as much the sword. |
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| wodash | Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:52 am Post #1179 |
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undefeated in all directions
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well,those are capcom made characters,they can fit in anytime,just like kasuga,these kinds of characters tends to keep appearing even if "most" people hates them,just like blanka and dhalsim of SF fame....... indeed,its a BASARA trademark IMO,ALL of its games has unique NPC,including SBBH and SBX which makes people cringe and hoping for a sequel at the same time i just hope go hon yari is still around(and have their own robot this time!),with all the fuss about the new ieyasu and mitsunari people tend to forgot these five ultimate warriors of sengoku i wouldnt call you that,because there's no such thing as an "optomist"(prime?) as for hisahide,well it'll be dependent on his last moments in SB2H,he blows up big time,i mean literally exploded,gone forever....,the question is when?we all know that the toyotomi~matsunaga event is in the past,but his fight with the date's are still fuzzy in the SB timeline so yeah,there's still a chance for matsunaga in SB3,but hey,there's an even BIGGER chance for him in SB3H,where ALL "old" NPC's are usually playable(note that it takes one game for aniki and sunday to be playable and it takes 2 games for the rest of the SB1 npc guys to be playable) Edited by wodash, Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:56 am.
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| Super sunwukong | Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:03 pm Post #1180 |
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The King of Monkeys !!!!
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I'll get the English version to bad that Capcom had to cut so many good characters.No matter at least we still get new characters I'd like to see Katsuyori and Nobufusa in Basara 3.I do want another ninja like Hanzo or Goemon in Basara 3.Also because Kenshin might be gone I think Kanetsugu or Kagekatsu should take his place. |
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| BlackKite | Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:04 pm Post #1181 |
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Anyway, just found out a SB fan in 2ch who actually managed to interview Kobayashi at TGS. here's what he asked.
Well, the person's a Tokugawa fan, so most of the questions asked are Tokugawa-related. Kobayashi answered them... kinda subtly. Will there be new characters in the Tokugawa army? I won't tell you which army would be getting one, but there are many new characters! Why could you only use 2 skills in SB2H? Ahaha... there were a lot of them (??? I don't understand this at all -.-a) The prologue in SB3 are the same, what about the endings? Each characters will have their own endings. Is there someone inside Tadakatsu? No there isn't. Tadakatsu is Tadakatsu. lol When you destroy Tadakatsu, is it true that he sounds like saying 'Moushi wake... (I'm sorry)'? No, that's just a SE. I want to know what Tadakatsu speaks! Please be patient since Ieyasu will do the speaking instead. lol Uhh... okay. Anyway, there's this more subtle Q&A that I think should be separated from the rest.
So Nagamasa is confirmed dead in the magazines... what will happen to Oichi? That's a secret, lol Okay, what the hell is this supposed to mean... I heard quite many times that Kobayashi has some things towards Noto, but really now..... ![]() And one more question... which I'm not going to translate. It might turn someone away from here, though I guess it would be inevitably known. >.<
So I guess Koei knows about this so that's why th(ry |
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| Claus | Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:09 pm Post #1182 |
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old hag
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Random interview, its pretty crappy, and i'm guessing Oichi is in, so thats great if she is, i love her. And what exactly is the last question? the last bit of your post confused me
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| Eni | Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:30 pm Post #1183 |
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BOOEH
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Hmmm i think the answer says something about Hideyoshi...maybe dying? I dunno =/ |
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| Wenze | Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:34 pm Post #1184 |
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Omniscient Strategist
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I believe it says that the game starts after the revolt and that Hideyoshi is dead, and you won't fight him. Guess that means Hanbei's out too. |
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| Crimsondramon | Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:54 pm Post #1185 |
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Your soul is weighed down by gravity
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No...Hideyoshi!? RAAEEGGG ![]() Thanks for the translations though, wish the interviewer had more better questions XD still decent nontheless
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:13 pm Post #1186 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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Is anyone inside Tadakatsu? No, Tadakatsu is Tadakatsu, lol Oookay, means now at least 8 characters are cut for sure. Well, still, Iīm rooting for at least 20 old characters returning. Also with the NPC thing, I really hope...no it must be without them. We have at least 8 characters to look forward to in the SB3H expansion. I mean weīll see them in HD, can use them with more than two skills, theyīll have a overworked moveset and new skills...Iīd look more forward to play as Nagamasa, Mitsuhide and Hideyoshi again, than as any NPC in SB3. Even though youīre probably right. But I mean cutting characters and than on top of that, teasing us with NPCs? Screw the NPCs. No one needs them. Than at least give us a dozen new "NO NPC" characters(dozen = 12 or more, only an idiot would say dozen and mean less than 12) and maybe 3 NPCs. Since new characters means characters I can play. If they say dozens and then count in characters we canīt play as...those arenīt characters. Those are just enemys, like the normal NPC officer, or NPC archer. Oh and just imagine Hisahide being a NPC again. That would be funny. Really Such fun... ...really... ...fun donīt even think about it, Kobayashi
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| Manta Punk | Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:10 pm Post #1187 |
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Ex-Admiral
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Whats with Musou's Hanbei? ![]() Anyway, lol at the interview. Kobayashi doesn't really want to share his precious informations, does he now. At least we found out that Tadakatsu truely is Tadakatsu... Seriously, the kid asked some weird questions. I mean "Why could you only use 2 skills in SB2H?" was a kinda pointless question. Ah well, at least we got something. Oichi might be returning. I mean, if he has indeed cut Oichi, I don't see why he has to be so secretive about it. He clearly stated that some of the earlier characters would get cut... This has given me a feeling we might be seeing Katsuie... Thanks for translating BK. |
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| Ziggurat | Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:07 pm Post #1188 |
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Half of me is slowly disintegrating...
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Is coop confirm,, and vs mode and garcia
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:20 am Post #1189 |
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The skills question's answer means: "We had so many things to do/so many things happened, so we couldn't get around to do that too". That いっぱいいっぱい is used when you're so damn busy you almost don't have time to eat, or you are generally fed up with something... That Oichi thing's got to be a tease....again. Better questions could have asked, maybe, but I guess Kobayashi wouldn't have answered them, so... |
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| wodash | Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:25 am Post #1190 |
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undefeated in all directions
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i think he's trying to say that they are too busy with other stuffs that they cannot thought of a good way to increase the number of equipable skills at once(heloo? there's a game called DK that have 3 skills and it works well koba~sen!,and i believe its your handiwork too!>.<) and i bet my money its the same response he will say to the interviewer if he was asked about "why matsunaga is not playable?" |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:28 am Post #1191 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/102/1027882p1.html At least thatīs what IGN says. So Co-op(even online) is confirmed. For Vs. mode, Iīd say probably... Gracia isnīt confirmed, she might or might not be in. Hope that helped you Are there Famitsu leaks yet? Anything? I canīt wait for new info...anything would do...anything...like a new character |
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| necrosis | Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:29 am Post #1192 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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Same here man, I'm pretty antsy and impatient about this, because for once Capcom looks to be improving the gameplay it seems. Though more character reveals would be cool, since that son of a womprat Kobyashi started something stupid up. |
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| Manta Punk | Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:13 am Post #1193 |
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Whats all this talk about womprats? (' 3 ') Anyway, DK, Famitsu leaks are normally on a Tuesday, so if we do get any info this week, we'll probably get it tomorrow. I'm betting the leak will show us Sasuke, Kojuurou, Tadakatsu and Yoshitsugu. Similar to how we got Yukimura, Masamune, Ieyasu and Mitsunari all in one. Lol BK, I looked at the first post and saw Yoshitsugu under the comfirmed character section. You got my hopes up
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| BlackKite | Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:25 am Post #1194 |
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Well, lately Famitsu leak seems to come out either on Tuesday or Wednesday. Anyway @MP, that's why I changed 'Confirmed New Characters' to 'Appearing New Characters', since I just decided to move the speculations to the respective sides. Guess the nerve of impatience seems to have struck even me as well.
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| DarkDante | Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:09 pm Post #1195 |
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A new power is rising
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Hmmm I'm thinking the next Famitsu will be SW3 related, but then again since Koei took the unusual step of revealing Hanbei already maybe it will be SB3's turn?? I just want Kobayashi to show his hand already, Koei are releasing characters left and right, while Kobayashi keeps saying there's "lots of new characters"... well when are we going to see them?? |
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| Manta Punk | Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:03 pm Post #1196 |
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Hmmm, I don't think it matters wether or not SW3 gets a scan, DarkDante. Koei and Capcom haven't stated that they're taking it in turns to reveal info (and even if they did, Capcom haven't stuck by it ) so theres still a chance we'll see something. Plus, BK stated that theres a chance we may get a character every week...And I guess the reason Koei is revealing so much is that SW3 will be soon released, where as BASARA 3 will probably be released around March, next year. Although, I do agree we need some more info to wet our tounges with. If Kobayashi is telling the truth that we will see "loads of new characters", he better start releasing them soon. Edited by Manta Punk, Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:16 pm.
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| BlackKite | Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:46 pm Post #1197 |
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Uhh... before someone got misunderstood, I should explain that what I meant by Capcom adding new characters every week is the usual routine that they update a character's information on the site (almost) each week. Just like our first batch; the 4 main characters are introduced in Famitsu, then on each weeks details on Ieyasu, Mitsunari, Masamune and Yukimura in order are added to the site. That's what I'm implying. ^.^;;; |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:58 pm Post #1198 |
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Just imagine this. Having four characters in one week and then 4 weeks full of "boring voices and event screenshots" I hope (or even bet) that was just in the beginning, since if they do it like that itīd take them more than one month to "fully release" 4 characters So the "new characters per week" formula could be very well true. At least I hope itīs like that.
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| Ultimate Legend | Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:48 am Post #1199 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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I'm glad they decided to give Masamune's War Dance, a much needed boost. It left your open most of the time, wide open for troops to get a good shot at you. I also hope they allow you to keep using it even after you get hit like the CPU Masamune can. Though that might just make the War Drum usless then. I'd also like if they allow you to pull off bigger and more unique combos in this game. One thing that I think the SB games lacked was it wasn't much variey with the moves. Now with 3 (Maybe 4) skills available, I hope they can improve on the stylish gameplay. Dosen't need to be WO / Strikeforce quality, but it would be nice.
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| BlackKite | Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:35 am Post #1200 |
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Ugh..... there's no SB3 news in this week's Famitsu either.... the nerve... is starting... to get... on me... as... well......... ![]() But maybe it's because there will be another talkshow event so soon on this weekend. Bet the information shared there won't have much difference with the TGS. Besides, this month there's 5 Thursdays, so bet they're going to start spilling out the beans starting the 2nd Thursday. If the new info finally appears next week and introducing the assistants of the main charas, bet the site update pattern is going to be like this: 8th - Hondam, 15th - Yoshitsugu, 22nd - Kojuuro, 29th - Sasuke |
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