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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,283 Views)
Claus
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My thoughts are that through different actions you take, different clans will join different sides, like the Mouri.

Say you chose to attack a certain clan (since I'm thinking you get to chose which clan you fight in this game), like the Chousokabe, Motonari will side with you for attacking his rival. Or something like that (bad example i know)

Damn, we need info on this game! :XD I at least want to know how the story mode works out... maybe there are alternate endings?

AGH! i thought i was i relatively patient person! I guess not! :lol:
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He's fighting the Uesugi for the same reason Kanetsugu shows up in Mitsunari's Shizugatake in SW2.

"Show me your honor/resolve/(adjective)!"

Because that's how history gets simplified for vidya gaems.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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The Uesugi in a snow field...hmm...I'm drawing a blank. They might have made a new stage for Kagekatsu/Kanetsugu...after all, Echigo is a cold place...
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HQ scans (^^)/ http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/sb3-magazinescans.php
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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There is one thing I donīt quite get.

You know, for now, the shadowed characters weīve seen so far, were somehow related, most of time in some kind of rivalry.

I mean Mitsunari and Ieyasu are obvious, but also Tadakatsu and Yoshitsugu, both being friend and protector of those two, so itīs natural for them to have a rivalry if their opposite is their enemys protector.

As for the other characters, like "Masamura" posterboy rivalry and the "Moto story", as well as Sasuke and Kojuuro.

But the first thing I donīt understand is: If Sasuke and Kojuuro would have been announced along with the two newly revealed ones, they would have been the four protectors of the four main characters.
But instead we get those two and the Motos.

And then thereīs the shadowy characters, one being Keiji and the other a girl with pirate guns and a "wild girl look"...if itīs really Nana...what does she have to do with Keiji? How is she related?

The only women Keiji ever had a past or relation with was...nah...that canīt be...it couldnīt be possibly...

I really wonder what their plan is, leaking not only infos in a strange way, but also the content, since now itīs somehow not making sense.

And I really wonder if Keijiīs somehow related to that girl... :huh:

BTW, thanks for the HQ scans, CD ;)

Look at the first scan, at the top were left you can see Yoshitsugu and the right Motonari.

I guess I know now, why those two are there. Just look in their eyes. Everyone says that Motonari has those cold scary eyes. It seems Yoshitsugu has the same. They are cold, filled with hatred and at the same time, for some reason full of sadness.

Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:52 pm.
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Claus
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You have a good point there DK, i would be really mad though if it was Nene! :hmmm:

If They add her! When she is dead! Yet everyone else who is dead would get shafted! that would really just piss me off!

I'm just starting to think its going to be random..... or i at least hope.....

Thanks for the scans Crimson, i can see Aniki's face now :hehe:
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Lord Rizal
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:40 pm
You have a good point there DK, i would be really mad though if it was Nene! :hmmm:

If They add her! When she is dead! Yet everyone else who is dead would get shafted! that would really just piss me off!

I'm just starting to think its going to be random..... or i at least hope.....

Thanks for the scans Crimson, i can see Aniki's face now :hehe:
Nene lived for several more years after Sekigahara and also played a semi-important role by backing the Tokugawa army rather than Ishida.

If this is Nene, they could portray her as something of a betrayer role...though that would be odd seeing a woman once renowned for her benevolence being portrayed that way...

It still feels odd to see Yoshitsugu being portrayed as evil...
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well the problem is, that Nene is dead in the SB story line.

And if Kobayashi thinks has to play serious this time and kills of characters like Nagamasa and Mitsuhide, maybe even Shingen and Kenshin(NPC = dead...not being playable in a game, is like a dead character)...

Why add a character that was allready dead in the SB plot, into a game that cuts characters, claiming to be more serious this time?

Thatīs why I, Miyazaki and probably a lot of other people would be angry about it.

Itīs like saying:"Hey, weīve killed off your favourite characters for the sake of being serious, but weīve revived a character that was allready dead in the SB story and not supposed to be in the future SB story! Hooray for seriousness." :mellow:

Even though I like Nene, Iīd rather see her in a previous scenario, thatīll most likely come one day, were past story are explained like, how did Nobunaga become so evil, why is Mitsuhide is so twisted and Nobunaga fixed, how Yukimura ended up being fanboy number one, etc., etc. AND what exactly happened between Hideyoshi/Keiji/Hanbei.

And Yoshitsugu being evil...well...heīs sick. Heīs not going to live long, canīt walk or live normal anymore, suffers pain each day, his best friend suffers because of the war over the land, people kill each other and gladly give up their life for nothing, most of them couldīve lived a normal and happy life and should treat it like the most important thing instead of throwing it away, while he will die, even if he wanted to live normal life, or well, just live.

He has more reason than your next-door villain who just wants people to suffer for fun or for world domination. As Iīve said, just look in his eyes in the scans provided by crimson.

You can see that he suffers. You can see that the hatred is caused by pain and not by some sick power hungry ambition.

So heīs not really evil. Heīs just blinded and misguided. But he still fights for his friend despite all these things. Heīs not completely evil.
And afterall thereīs neither good nor evil, just decisions.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:15 pm.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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You're doing a deep reading on him, DK....too bad 80% of that is your own invention, strictly speaking. (no offense)

What we know of him is that he's been shunned for a lot of his life because of his diseased appearance, and has started to resent humanity because of it. And in that resentment lies the reason for him to participate in Sekigahara...

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it's too early to make assumptions :P
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If the woman does indeed have a relation to KG, what if it was Yodo-dono?

I mean, far be it for me to understand how Hideyoshi decided to actually love again (after killing Nene to try and "abandon love", a la Raoh). But she was the one who gave birth to the one who would be Hideyoshi's sole male heir.

If Hideyoshi is indeed gone, then maybe KG and Yodo are hanging together, because KG not only rolls with the Uesugi, but because he at least wants to safeguard the last links to his old friend. Even though they had their differences...
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Manta Punk
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Hmm, I wouldn't call Yoshi evil. Perhaps misguided, but not evil.
Like Maki said, we only have limited info on him and from what we've garnered so far, hes a tragic character. I mean, having such a harsh disease isn't easy and being mocked because of it isn't gunna help. I think his goal to cause everyone such pain is a little wrong (despite how bad ass it is), but I can see where hes coming from.

On the silhouette, when I first saw Keiji, I immediately thought it was Nene as she was a big part of Keiji's Gaiden in Heroes... but shes dead. Like most of you, I wouldn't be too happy if Capcom are bringing back dead characters, yet leaving the likes of Nagamasa out. Perhaps it is Yodo, Nana or Ginchiyo. Only time will tell, eh? :hehe:

@Master Sima Yi: Yep, they are. And I was stupid to write both her names. Sorry for confusing you ^^;
Edited by Manta Punk, Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:03 pm.
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Perhaps it is Yodo, Nana, Chacha or Ginchiyo. Only time will tell, eh? :hehe:
Aren't they the same? :mellow:
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Ginchiyo, with a gun, that would be so wrong :OMG: .
How? it makes perfect sense to me, The Tachibana served the Otomo and the otomo had a christian leader influenced by western culture and weapons Ie.Guns, so it actually makes sense that she might have guns.

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It probably might not be Ginchiyo. Yes what you said about Otomo being influenced by western culture is true, however think about it. The past 2 games had little to no historical accuracies.

After all Sengoku Baara is known to throw away the much of the "Sengoku" and keep the the "Basara". :hehe:

So putting ALL history aside lets look at the silhouette design. Her gun looks like a pirates gun,her clothes look piratey (I know not a real word :P ) so it most likely is Nana ^_^ .

Her hair looks like Xing Cai's from dynasty warriors though so I wonder how that'll turn out ;)
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Nana is has the best chance, since I think people demand her, but since Nene is dead, Chacha might be in.

And I wonder how the relationship between Yoshitsugu and Yukimura will go? Yuki was Yoshitsugu's son-in-law historically.
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Does anyone know when they will reveal the new female character? ^_^
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Well, next week weīll have an update with two characters, Motochika and Motonari.

If they keep the updates the way it is(having first the characters, then one voice each week), the next character batch will come in around 5 weeks.

But I could also see another way. Since they now update two characters AND the voice of Yoshitsugu this week, though they normally allways update just the voice and some screentshots, it could be that weīll see two characters and a voice each week from now on.

So worst case is 5 weeks, best would be around 2 weeks with the mysterious women and Keiji being updated.

Weīll see, how itīll work out, but for now, as it stands, donīt expect some infos about the female soon...sadly :(
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:20 pm.
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Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:18 pm
Well, next week weīll have an update with two characters, Motochika and Motonari.

If they keep the updates the way it is(having first the characters, then one voice each week), the next character batch will come in around 5 weeks.

But I could also see another way. Since they now update two characters AND the voice of Yoshitsugu this week, though they normally allways update just the voice and some screentshots, it could be that weīll see two characters and a voice each week from now on.

So worst case is 5 weeks, best would be around 2 weeks with the mysterious women and Keiji being updated.

Weīll see, how itīll work out, but for now, as it stands, donīt expect some infos about the female soon...sadly :(
Ohh :( darn!haha, I really wanna know who it is.Im guessing for sure its Nana.I would love it to be Nene!

But, who knows?!...
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Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:02 am
If the woman does indeed have a relation to KG, what if it was Yodo-dono?

I mean, far be it for me to understand how Hideyoshi decided to actually love again (after killing Nene to try and "abandon love", a la Raoh). But she was the one who gave birth to the one who would be Hideyoshi's sole male heir.

If Hideyoshi is indeed gone, then maybe KG and Yodo are hanging together, because KG not only rolls with the Uesugi, but because he at least wants to safeguard the last links to his old friend. Even though they had their differences...
I thought of something similar as well, and who says Hideyoshi has to love again? Did Nobunaga ever "love" Nouhime? I doubt it, there's a lot of reasons one can conceive a child together, love is only one of them. Even Hideyoshi has to realise he isn't going to live forever and his clan is going to need an heir.
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True dat.

Plus, historically speaking, Hideyori (Hideoyshi's son) was the one who was really at the center of Sekigahara any way. If he's not available as a playable (too young?) then I'd like to think his Mama might be at this party. Especially if she was along the lines of what I suggested pages ago...one Mama Bear (imbued with the "dark powers" of the Oda lineage, being Ichi's daughter) that you do NOT want to mess with! :hehe:
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When Yoshitsugu was in a silhouette, he's with Hondam silhouette, and they don't have much connections. Yoshitsugu's highest connection is with Mitsunari.

And when Yoshitsugu is confirmed, he's alongside Motochika and Motonari.

If we follow the formula, then the new Silhouette is going to be more likely revealed as someone close to Motochika or Motonari. So...

My bet is on Nana's.
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^agreed,just because the silhouettes come in pairs doesnt always mean its a package deal.................
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I've seen some of the screen shots of Yukimura being defeated by masamune. Whats up with that? Or do you think it will have to tie in with him not feeling his best due to shingen's ill state? I dont care about his lose to tokugawa, but I do care about his loss to masamune, I liked it better when they were equal. What do you guys think?
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True dat.

Plus, historically speaking, Hideyori (Hideoyshi's son) was the one who was really at the center of Sekigahara any way. If he's not available as a playable (too young?) then I'd like to think his Mama might be at this party. Especially if she was along the lines of what I suggested pages ago...one Mama Bear (imbued with the "dark powers" of the Oda lineage, being Ichi's daughter) that you do NOT want to mess with! :hehe:
Well Osaka Castle must be in SB3, you can't have Sekigahara but not Osaka: I mean it's the battle to end it all and it was also Sanada Yukimura's shining moment when he almost cut his way through to Ieyasu himself. So if that's the case I'm fairly certain at least one of Hideyori/Yodo will be in, unless Yukimura leads the castle defense? :crazy:

Also a bit further back you guys were discussing why Yoshitsugu was fighting Uesugi troops, possbily post-Sekigahara when the Uesugi submitted to the Tokugawa perhaps?
Edited by DarkDante, Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:30 am.
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About the VS Uesugi battle...apart from the fact that it might be an hint on the next character(s) to be revealed (like what happened with the Mouri), the most likely (IMHO) scenario is that it's the Anti-Uesugi Tokugawa expedition...although if that was the case why would Yoshitsugu be fighting them?

But we'll never know for sure until....2010, I fear.
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Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:16 am
When Yoshitsugu was in a silhouette, he's with Hondam silhouette, and they don't have much connections. Yoshitsugu's highest connection is with Mitsunari.

And when Yoshitsugu is confirmed, he's alongside Motochika and Motonari.

If we follow the formula, then the new Silhouette is going to be more likely revealed as someone close to Motochika or Motonari. So...

My bet is on Nana's.
Hmm, I never thought of it like that.
Perhaps this is the reason they showed the two Motos instead of Sasuke and Kojuuro. Perhaps they wanted to show off a new female character as we've only seen the guys so far and seeing as Nana was Aniki's wife, we got him and Motonari instead of the other two 'body gaurds'.

Seeing as though we're getting KG in the next batch, maybe in the batch after that we'll get someone connected with him... Kanetsugu, maybe? :hehe:
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