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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
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Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:47 am
I've seen some of the screen shots of Yukimura being defeated by masamune. Whats up with that? Or do you think it will have to tie in with him not feeling his best due to shingen's ill state? I dont care about his lose to tokugawa, but I do care about his loss to masamune, I liked it better when they were equal. What do you guys think?
That probably has somehing to do with it. Though you have to remember it's from Masamune's story.
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Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:16 am
When Yoshitsugu was in a silhouette, he's with Hondam silhouette, and they don't have much connections. Yoshitsugu's highest connection is with Mitsunari.

And when Yoshitsugu is confirmed, he's alongside Motochika and Motonari.

If we follow the formula, then the new Silhouette is going to be more likely revealed as someone close to Motochika or Motonari. So...

My bet is on Nana's.
Well the conncetion I meant was being the bodyguards and best friends of the two main characters.

Of course it was just speculation and seeing the update pattern and weird info leaks, I guess it´s really just random.(and seeing how crappy the marketing strategy was so far)

But well, it´s no use talking about it since, as pessimistic as I am and the way the updates were till now, we won´t see ANYTHING BIG soon...around 5-6 weeks...all we can do is wait.

Waiting is boring :mellow:

EDIT:

BTW, what´s the "blank" last point on the site.

Well at the beginning there´s the menu point ENTER.

So the rest is, I guess the first point is infos, second characters, third screenshots, fourth vidoes and the fifth? Artworks? Stages? Merchandise? :huh:

Also, the updates in the future.
JUST PREDICTION, NOTHING CONFIMED IT`S JUST A QUICK VIEW IF IT CONTINUES LIKE THAT:
22.10.2009 Motochika and Motonari
29.10.2009 Yoshitsugu Voice
05.11.2009 Tadakatsu Voice
12.11.2009 Motochika Voice
19.11.2009 Motonari Voice
26.11.2009 Nana and Keiji
03.12.2009 Sasuke and Kojuuro(probably and if the pattern continues)
10.12.2009 Nana Voice
17.12.2009 Keiji Voice
24.12.2009 Sasuke Voice
31.12.2009 Kojuuro Voice
07.01.2010 2 characters(if the pattern continues)
14.01.2010 2 characters
21.01.2010 Voice
28.01.2010 Voice
04.02.2010 Voice
11.02.2010 Voice
18.02.2010 2 characters
25.02.2010 2 characters
04.03.2010 Voice
11.03.2010 Voice
18.03.2010 Voice
25.03.2010 Voice
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:54 pm.
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Hmm... the more I look at the silhouette and her guns, why do I feel more willing to guess that it is really 'her'? :hmmm:
And I thought it was really just a mere personal dream... ^.^;

But something just crossed my mind in case she is really included then Capcom might have this background to support her inclusion. Nana originally came from the Saitou clan... and so did Nou. And with the same weapon type, I have this feeling that if she is included she would be the character who will make reflections on Nouhime. :rolleyes:
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Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:48 pm
Hmm... the more I look at the silhouette and her guns, why do I feel more willing to guess that it is really 'her'? :hmmm:
Because of all the awesome contributions we've thought up to make it at least seem plausible? :hehe:
Hmm, but it would be interesting if she doned Nouhime's play style. Personally, I enjoyed using her and now we may have another stylish gun wielder, thats some good news, especially if she turns out to be Nana. It's win-win.

DK, sadly, waiting is all we can do :/
Perhaps we'll get something at Aniki's seiyuu interview on November 7th... maybe...

EDIT: LOL, BK, I just realised you were talking about Nana making references to Nou, not actually sporting her play style. Man, I'm really off the ball this week.
Any way, maybe we'll also get something from Dengeki aswell. If I remember correctly, didn't the last Dengeki news reveal the 'dash' feature, where as the Famitsu before it didn't ?
Edited by Manta Punk, Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:02 pm.
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To add with the Nana talk, I have a feeling she and Toshimitsu may have not been related to the ruing family in Mino, It just came across my mind that Tadakatsu and Masanobu are not related even though they're both from Mikawa, and there is another Kato in 7 Spears of Shizugatake but completely unrelated to Kiyomasa.

However it is just my guess.

I've been wanting Nana for a while, in either Musou or BASARA, so it will be good if that chick is her.
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My other guess, if it isn't Nana... it could be Akihime, Yoshitsugu's daughter and Yukimura's wife. But this... is really unlikely:

Pro: Yoshitsugu was close to Mitsunari, which was announced before him. He's not close with either Motochika, or Motonari. So, the silhouette may be related to those who are new from SB and/or those silhouetted (Of course this could also mean the gunslinger girl could turn out to be Ina, but I'm really not seeing her wielding a gun).

Con: If this is how Capcom works, then all the new additions would be 'related to Mitsunari'. Not a very good move for Capcom, and this is not just about my bias against the West.
Edited by ChrisX, Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:50 am.
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I wonder if all characters tied to the western army will have some kind of grudge...and if in the end it'll be turned into a good VS evil plot.

I mean, Mitsunari has its revenge, Motochika holds a grudge for having been betrayed, and Yoshitsugu, well....hates everyone.

Lots of people say this too, but seeing Ieyasu's "hypocrisy" (preaching about bonds but severing his friendship with Motochika) makes me hope there'll be more depth to them all...


After all, Basara chars have always been stereotypes, but in that stereotype's execution there was almost always a certain depth...a certain something that wouldn't let you classify them as something and being done with it.

That's one of the things that makes this a great series, IMHO....other than the fabulous 2D beat-em-up-reminiscent gameplay, the characters have so many lines that even if their personality isn't outstandingly deep at the start, they get deeper and deeper the more you play....
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Makishima!, do you know what the last tab on the official site says? Just wondering.
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this may be a little of topic but who is nana?
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Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:01 pm
this may be a little of topic but who is nana?
She is Motochika's Wife
Edited by Jonathan Joestar, Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:03 pm.
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Why don\ people just look things up for themselves? I mean you're already on the freaking internet and we constantly say That she is Motochika's wife or she is at leat connected to him, i mean, if you couldn\t put one and one together, at least have the initiative to look Motochika up and search for the name "Nana", i mean hily crap is that so freaking hard? it takes 3 minutes tops, instead of just making useless spam. <_<

Forgive me i'm in a sh*t mood today so if i'm mean just take it with a grain of salt.

The more i think of it, the more i think its Nana. but its impossible to say for sure.

So it is her then that means it looks like Motonari is alone..... again.

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Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:42 pm
Why don\ people just look things up for themselves? I mean you're already on the freaking internet and we constantly say That she is Motochika's wife or she is at leat connected to him, i mean, if you couldn\t put one and one together, at least have the initiative to look Motochika up and search for the name "Nana", i mean hily crap is that so freaking hard? it takes 3 minutes tops, instead of just making useless spam. <_<

Forgive me i'm in a sh*t mood today so if i'm mean just take it with a grain of salt.

The more i think of it, the more i think its Nana. but its impossible to say for sure.

So it is her then that means it looks like Motonari is alone..... again.

DOn't worry Miya....all people have Bad days.... -_-

I really don't think that Motonari could have a Follower/Partner....He is too Selfish and don't care much about other people...
Edited by Jonathan Joestar, Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:14 pm.
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In other words, she´d be a hot pirate chick :sly:

Time for speculation(I just can´t stop):

Seeing as we allready got
Ishida Mitsunari
Otani Yoshitsugu

Characters we´ll see:
Shadowy figure of a female: Either NANA(my bets on her), Ginchiyo. ChaCha...or Magoichi

Saika crest: If the female is not Magoichi, we´ll get to see someone from the Saika...who´ll most likely be Magoichi :P

Uesugi crest: Either it´s Kenshin - Kanetsugu, Kagekatsu - Kanetsugu...Uesugi is there, Kanetsugu got the second place in the "characters we want"-poll, which Mitsunari won and he was allready a NPC in SB2, SB2:H, SBBH and the SB anime. Need more hints?

Sasaki Kojiro: It´s either him being added, or Musashi being kicked out. Their duel is a legend and one can´t be without the other.
SB Musashi would really profit from it and a lot of people would like to see him in(myself included)

Mogami Yoshiaki: Tetsu Shiratori put it on his website that he´ll voice him in SB3...and I don´t think that this was just a small slip on his side...why would he do something like that :/

"Nana" - "Magoichi" - Naoe Kanetsugu - Mogami Yoshiaki - Sasaki Kojiro

Well those have the highest chances of being in...

Also we´ll most likely see more than one female character addition and they just HAVE to add another Tokugawa retainer *cough*Hanzo*cough*(or else it´ll be hard to explain who Mitsuhide slashed in the SB anime...or just how he survived it :huh: )...maybe someone for Mitsunari´s depressed bunch.

Ishida Mitsunari - Otani Yoshitsugu - "Nana" - "Magoichi" - Naoe Kanetsugu - Mogami Yoshiaki - Sasaki Kojiro - Another female - Tokugawa retainer - Mitsunari retainer/former Hideyoshi retainer + Revamped Ieyasu.

So with that we allready have a good idea of the characters being added. And I have to say...I´d be pretty satisfied with that.

Well, it´s just a guess, but you have to agree that this will pretty much be what we are going to see..maybe even more :ph43r:
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:43 pm.
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In other words, she´d be a hot pirate chick :sly:

Time for speculation(I just can´t stop):

Seeing as we allready got
Ishida Mitsunari
Otani Yoshitsugu

Characters we´ll see:
Shadowy figure of a female: Either NANA(my bets on her), Ginchiyo. ChaCha...or Magoichi

Saika crest: If the female is not Magoichi, we´ll get to see someone from the Saika...who´ll most likely be Magoichi :P

Uesugi crest: Either it´s Kenshin - Kanetsugu, Kagekatsu - Kanetsugu...Uesugi is there, Kanetsugu got the second place in the "characters we want"-poll, which Mitsunari won and he was allready a NPC in SB2, SB2:H, SBBH and the SB anime. Need more hints?

Sasaki Kojiro: It´s either him being added, or Musashi being kicked out. Their duel is a legend and one can´t be without the other.
SB Musashi would really profit from it and a lot of people would like to see him in(myself included)

Mogami Yoshiaki: Tetsu Shiratori put it on his website that he´ll voice him in SB3...and I don´t think that this was just a small slip on his side...why would he do something like that :/

"Nana" - "Magoichi" - Naoe Kanetsugu - Mogami Yoshiaki - Sasaki Kojiro

Well those have the highest chances of being in...

Also we´ll most likely see more than one female character addition and they just HAVE to add another Tokugawa retainer *cough*Hanzo*cough*(or else it´ll be hard to explain how who Mitsuhide slashed in the SB anime)...maybe someone for Mitsunari´s depressed bunch.

Ishida Mitsunari - Otani Yoshitsugu - "Nana" - "Magoichi" - Naoe Kanetsugu - Mogami Yoshiaki - Sasaki Kojiro - Another female - Tokugawa retainer - Mitsunari retainer/former Hideyoshi retainer + Revamped Ieyasu.

So with that we allready have a good idea of the characters being added. And I have to say...I´d be pretty satisfied with that.

Well, it´s just a guess, but you have to agree that this will pretty much be what we are going to see..maybe even more :ph43r:
Okay DK you git me there...What happen if they put Magoichi as a Woman??? :P

And if that is the final ROster...when it be a good one....but i think we still get one or two surprises near the end.. :ph43r:
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Hmm, theres always a chance Katsuie might make it in due to one of Tsuchi's pieces showing him confronting Oichi, plus, Kobayashi was being quite mysterious when someone asked him wether Oichi will be returning or not... not to mention the coughNPC'scough.

Other than that, thats a fairly nice list. Although, the Western and Eastern armys are pretty unequal :/
Western army: Mitsunari, Yoshitsugu, Yukimura, Sasuke, Motochika, Nana (?), Magoichi (?), Yoshihiro (?), Toshiie (?), Matsu (?), Keiji (?), Kanetsugu (?), Kasuga (?) and Musashi (?)
Eastern army: Ieyasu, Tadakatsu, Masamune, Kojurou and Yoshiaki...
lolherebypopulardemandlol army: Motonari

I'm probably forgetting some people, but you get the gist of it.
I bet this is where you'll be able to 'sway' armys to join you comes into play.

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Kobayashi said that "Japan would be fully represented from north to south, east to west" so I think it's safe to assume that we're going to get at least another 4-5 characters added to the ones we already know of.


My speculation goes like this:


Mogami Yoshiaki (it's been taked down without a word...it's got to be true)

Chacha (Nana is almost inexistent historically...unfortunately)

Magoichi (if he didn't get a sex change...)

Kobayakawa Hideaki (quite important in Sekigahara)

Kuroda Kanbei/Nagamasa? (a good addition for the east..?)

Tachibana Muneshige-Ginchiyo?/Shimazu Toyohisa? (anyway, we can safely assume there will be addition to the Kyushu.)

Hosokawa Gracia? (a character with important bonds...the east needs people.)


The producers also said that this game will see more new faces than SB2. Considering that in that game there were 9 new faces (Keiji, Hideyoshi, Hanbei, Nagamasa, Oichi, Kennyo, Musashi, Kotaro, Kojuro) we're gonna see at least.....10 new chars??? PCs or not...

Counting out the new characters already presented (Mitsunari and Yoshitsugu) and the ones "hinted at" (Mystery girl, Yoshiaki, and for the sake of debate let's count Magoichi as a separate char) there are AT LEAST other 5 new characters to be seen.

Damn...I got pumped up writing this post......I want infooooooo!!!! :crazy:



@ MoM: the last tag says "work in progress"
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:03 am.
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Saito Toshimitsu, and thus Nana, are indeed actually related to the main Saito family of Mino. This requires a little bit of explanation, due to Saito Dosan's uncertain parentage. I'll try to keep it short so this doesn't go wildly off-topic.

Scenario 1: In this, Dosan's great-grandfather Toshifuji is the brother of Toshimitsu's grandfather Toshiyasu. It sounds bizarre, but Toshimitsu is actually Saito Dosan's uncle in this case.

Scenario 2: Dosan's father is Saito Toshitaka(also Nagai Toshitaka) who is a third brother of Toshiyasu and Toshifuji. In this case, Dosan is Toshimitsu's uncle. This would make more sense in the case of Dosan and Toshimitsu's large age difference.

Either way, Toshimitsu and Nana are related to the main Saito line. But then, so is Mitsuhide. :sly:
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"Work in progress"?

So there will be a lot more :ph43r:

In the "Characters we want in poll"...if anyone remembers...which females were on the list?

As far as I remember Gracia was there, right?
Others too? That might be a good hint, since CAPCOM had them in mind :sly:

On 24th we´ll have another interview, right? And the magazine that comes out all two weeks on friday will have BASARA 3 infos too...there´s hope for at least some gameplay, stage, something BASARA 3 related new bit of info...at least I hope so :/
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:07 am.
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New info has come out on the new Nintendo Dream magazine.

There are new pics of Motonari's, Motochika's, Tadakatsu's and Yoshitsugu's skills.

Tomorrow BK will probably deliver all the goods, but the most important thing (IMO, of course) is that Kobayashi said that no new characters with the same surname will appear.


This means no (Shimazu) Toyohisa, (Sanada) Nobuyuki, (Tokugawa) Hidetada, etc etc....


Well, that's kind of a shame, but then again this doesn't mean much in Basara, does it...I wonder if this would preclude Hideyori from being put in...
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New info has come out on the new Nintendo Dream magazine.

There are new pics of Motonari's, Motochika's, Tadakatsu's and Yoshitsugu's skills.

Tomorrow BK will probably deliver all the goods, but the most important thing (IMO, of course) is that Kobayashi said that no new characters with the same surname will appear.


This means no (Shimazu) Toyohisa, (Sanada) Nobuyuki, (Tokugawa) Hidetada, etc etc....


Well, that's kind of a shame, but then again this doesn't mean much in Basara, does it...I wonder if this would preclude Hideyori from being put in...
hmmm this could lead to some complete to new character Especulation like Kanbei Kuroda,Tachibana Ginchiyo,Hanzo etcetc....well we have to wait until tomorrow
Edited by Jonathan Joestar, Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:21 pm.
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Well, that's kind of a shame, but then again this doesn't mean much in Basara, does it...I wonder if this would preclude Hideyori from being put in...
That would only be the case, if Hideyoshi was indeed gone.

Such a tough choice, on my end. I either have to be hoping that Hideyoshi is still in the game, or look forward to whatever Hideyori could stand to bring to the table. Whatever am I to do~? :hehe:
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Hmm, interesting.
So no new characters will share the same surname as existing characters?
I don't really know how to feel about that. I wonder what the case would be if Kenshin was still in the game, but as a NPC. Would Kagekatsu still stand a chance due to Kenshin being unplayable or doesn't it matter wether they are playable or not... ?

I suppose if thats the case, Kanetsugu has the slight edge over Kagekatsu, as long as Kenshin appears in some form... which is good news for me :hehe:

And does this mean we won't see the Tachibana couple?
Shame, I wanted both Muneshige and Ginchiyo in :/
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Damn. I guess this means a more diverse cast...but still. No Katsuyori, Hideyori, or Kagekatsu? :/ Hopefully Muneshige will still make it in...
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It also means no Nobuyuki >.<

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu~! :hmmm:

I really want him in the game....... dammit!
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