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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
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Lord Mizer
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A genderbended Magoichi eh? Interesting, but cool if that's her.
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Claus
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A genderbended Magoichi eh? Interesting, but cool if that's her.
Not really genderbend, there were a fair bit of Magoichi's and they all had the same name respectively as head of the Saika clan, It is possible (though, like really unlikely) One Magoichi was a girl, probably one standing in because of a death, but still named Magoichi.

Siilar to Kenshin being a femlae in some games, its not genderbend, just a origional take on things, he was specualted to be a woman after all, Kantesugu even called him Mother.
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well site update with things we allready know.

YAY :mellow:

Man, Iīm so sick of those updates <_<

Now the only thing missing would be that they delay the game, even if there isnīt even a release date yet, just like Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

The crappy Brawl Dojo like updates are allready there.

Sorry for ranting again. But I really wanna know, if I have to eat a crow. Is it Nana or Mago, itīs still two weeks to go.
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:09 pm.
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Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:31 am
Well site update with things we allready know.

YAY :mellow:

Man, Iīm so sick of those updates <_<

Now the only thing missing would be that they delay the game, even if there isnīt even a release date yet, just like Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

The crappy Brawl Dojo like updates are allready there.

Sorry for ranting again. But I really wanna know, if I have to it a crow. Is it Nana or Mago, itīs still allmost two weeks to go.
You're cute when you rhyme.

No, seriously, I understand your angst. Makes me feel a little guilty that I'm enjoying the updates from the other game...

You're going to tape you eating a crow, right? I really want to see that.

And I was lucky to miss most of the heartache that came with Brawl. I was content the moment they announced Snake and just lived in Bliss throughout the entire ordeal. I still giggle with glee at the thought of Snake being in Brawl.

But that's neither here or there. Kobayashi loves to tease.
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Lord Mizer
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Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:47 am
Lord Mizer
Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:38 am
A genderbended Magoichi eh? Interesting, but cool if that's her.
Not really genderbend, there were a fair bit of Magoichi's and they all had the same name respectively as head of the Saika clan, It is possible (though, like really unlikely) One Magoichi was a girl, probably one standing in because of a death, but still named Magoichi.

Siilar to Kenshin being a femlae in some games, its not genderbend, just a origional take on things, he was specualted to be a woman after all, Kantesugu even called him Mother.
Yeah, I've heard about the whole Kenshin true gender mystery, still it's cool. :cool:
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well...I knew it would be a voice update and not a new character.

In the past we have gotten a voice and some action or event screenshots, but now itīs allmost like we get nothing.

Itīs just so dissapointing everytime I look at the site on a thursday :mellow:

But the thing that bothers me most...were are the "action"-screenshots of the four "new" characters? Does that mean we have another month, were we get 10 pics of each character, which weīve allready seen in magazines?

I really hope that weīll get new characters after Motonariīs update and not again four weeks with stuff that NO ONE wants to wait for. :hmmm:

Even though I have Borderlands and Tekken 6 for now...they wonīt last another month...especially since Tekken 6īs online mode sucks lags big time -_-
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We need moar discussion. A Discuss the Character topic for the Gohan Yari and Miyoshi trio would be good. I'd do it but I'm poor at making topics.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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Motochika's got quite the badass line this time...it almost doesn't sound like him:

"Don't you forget it...I'm a demon god, the Western Seas' Demon God!"

"What history has asked for...is the birth of a true demon!"


He really looks more serious and less playful than before. Judging by what we know of his and MasaYuki's storylines, it really looks like they've sucked all the "playfulness" about them...Masamune will be riding back up the waterfall of defeat, Yukimura's got his leadership problems, and Motochika has to deal with his broken bond with Ieyasu...:/


We need Zabii back to inject some mindless fun into this game...
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yeah,the next "shadow" pair must include zabii!,although the only two affected would be chesto and sunday and mr chesto isnt announced to return yet......bummer

regarding magoichi's gender lets clear things up

its more of a title for the saika mercenary leader,kinda like when 1 hanzo died there will be a replacement hattori hanzo,so that lets capcom get away with crazy things regarding his attitude and gender

in SB3 he can be
-a man
-crossdressing,ultra feminine man
-a real girl

btw,just watched GOEMON yesterday,lol'ed at the final battle where everyone spooked when "nobunaga" returns and starts wiping sekigahara clean,plus the yukimura sanada reference at the end was pretty twisted....

if ranmaru make it to SB3 he should do that too!>.<
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HokutoNoBen
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Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:34 am
He really looks more serious and less playful than before. Judging by what we know of his and MasaYuki's storylines, it really looks like they've sucked all the "playfulness" about them...Masamune will be riding back up the waterfall of defeat, Yukimura's got his leadership problems, and Motochika has to deal with his broken bond with Ieyasu...:/
I know, and this is perhaps one thing that's really concerned me about this game.

I mean, it's one thing for BASARA to give me so much in the way of over-the-top, stylish action, awesome character designs, and yet another medium to hear some of my fave JP VAs. But it also laid in how the game wasn't afraid to seemingly poke fun at itself every once in a while.

Now, we not only have it so that a number of those characters who did a lot to carry that aspect of BASARA are gone (or in Ieyasu's case, he's all grown up now), but those remaining who may have had that aspect are now changing too.

Some one on MadMan's Cafe probably put it to scary effect....BASARA's done a lot to become like Musou, with how it's trying to be all serious and NOW starting to care about history a bit more than before.

What's the point of still calling it "BASARA", if the "wild, crazy and rebellious" spirit of the franchise is falling by the way side? Answer me, Kobyashi!

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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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KOBAYASHIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!

Let's hope that these "main characters" are the only ones to be subjected to the serious treatment...

Zabii and the Maedas MUST be back, and among the other new characters there have to be some clowns...or some halfway serious chars...hopefully. (Kanetsugu maybe?)

After all there were some funny lines in the video, and the gameplay style is as over the top as ever (maybe even more than ever: enemy bases detonating when you conquer them? Giant solar mirrors burning enemies to a crisp? Water floods coming outta nowhere?), so there IS hope...


By the way, for now we only have two totally new characters, but it'd be hilarious to see Yoshitsugu converted to the Zabii cult...a guy with that voice and attitude, fighting for the sake of love...? The mere thought makes me giggle...


Don't let us down KOBAYASHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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Manta Punk
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Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:21 am
Zabii and the Maedas MUST be back, and among the other new characters there have to be some clowns...or some halfway serious chars...hopefully. (Kanetsugu maybe?)
As long as they don't make Kanetsugu into a total joke, I'll be okay with it. But I suppose you all know how I feel if you've read his character discussion thread :ph43r:

About the game taking on a more serious route, it is odd. SM has slightly strayed away from the "realistic" aspect it had going for it (well, its more realistic than SB) with the giant eagles and what not, and now we have SB3 getting all dramatic and angsty. Although, I suppose we can't really judge with only 8 characters showed so far. Hopefully some of the new generals won't be afraid to deliver the comedic flair... But again, we need more info before we start raging Kobayashi again, and its not like all the comedy has completely gone so far:
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Tokugawa soldier: My final technique - revised edition - has no effeeect!!!
Taken from the video thread, courtesy of Maki :hehe:

Anyway, whats the chances we'll get the batch next week? It'd be over a month since Yoshi's reveal by then and also the same week for the final site update. Hmm, after this batch, I'm seriously hoping the pace picks up. These info draughts are harsh :/
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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I really have to say, that I like the "dark style".
As MP said, we can see with the quote that theyīll still keep balance between epic, funny and interesting quotes.
And seeing as Motonari is STILL alive, even though the main focus is Sekigahara and itīs supposed to be more realistic, shows that...well...it wonīt be too realistic.

I mean Masamune, Motonari, Motochika werenīt really known for their comedy side, Mitsunari and Yoshitsugu are new characters and Ieyasu wasnīt really funny after some time, it was just sad.

The only character that really lost some of his comedy flair was Yukimura...but since Shingen isnīt dead, just ill...it could mean that weīll have "reunited ending".

And we allready have one character that brings some comedy and craziness to BASARA. I mean weīre all used to it allready, but someone who saw it for the first time...HONDAM? Itīs a freakinī flying and thunder shooting gundam with a huge drill who has the most epic and greatest voice actor of all times. And instead of being carried by Tadakatsu:This time Ieaysu is RIDING him.

If thatīs not crazy and over the top...but Iīm sure weīll get more...and I hope not in a "duh you have to wait 2 month again for new stuff"...I mean when they release the new info on the female character itīll be only one month till christmas. Even old Scrooge isnīt stingy during this time of giving...so Kobayashi open your heart and your bag full of new BASARA characters and give me a Hisahide or Kenshin or Hanbei present :whistle:
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Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:15 pm
so Kobayashi open your heart and your bag full of new BASARA characters and give me a Hisahide or Kenshin or Hanbei present :whistle:
Wouldn't it be..like... funny if he announced those characters are cut on christmas? :lol:

...No...no it would not be funny whatsoever.

Well, we will finally know who that girl(boy?Magoichi? :unsure: ) in the next two weeks. Come on Nana! :ph43r:

I also thinking the next new character will be a Tokugawa character ( Ii red devil Naomasa? Hattori robotic arm Hanzo?)

I have to say i crave a new ninja for this game. I think Kobayashi should just paste posters everywhere that read "Ninja voice needed" Because we lack a badass ninja that can speak. I like Kasuga and Sasuke, they're funny and have great stories and move sets, but bad ass ninja that can speak would be welcomed.

I don't mind the dark style, just as long as Motochika gets back into his old self once in a while. I deinitely think him and Ieyasu will end up buddies again, that or they will kill each other and have dramatic super sad ending. And of course that a few of the new characters will be on the goofier side (NAOMASA)
Edited by Claus, Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:56 pm.
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Come on people. At least try to have some spirit. The entire board is dead! :/ No one posts in topics or anything now. <_<

On the current topic, I think that there'll still be some humor. It'll just be more serious which I think Basara needed some of.

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I know, but these times without any info to talk about are hard :/
To be honest, I think we've done pretty awesome to get over 60 pages on the limited information we have, about a game thats not so well known when we're such a small group.

Hopefully, with all fingers crossed, we'll get something in the Famitsu leak this week. All we can do now is speculate... and lets face it, we've done a lot of that :hehe:

No doubt when we get our next batch this board will be alive and kicking. Its Kobayashi's fault for keeping all the informations so close to his chest. Hes the reason why we have nothing to discuss.

Seriously, I thought this drought wouldn't get to me as they've revealed Yoshi, but just the thought of Kanetsugu's inclusion is making me impatient. They could at least give us better site updates... [/moan]
Edited by Manta Punk, Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:58 pm.
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well, MP said it all.

I mean allmost all of us said originally that they will stop posting in this topic untill the female character is revealed and now weīve allmost talked three weeks about the same small infos we are chewing on since over two months... <_<

But hey, itīs not long anymore (though I doubt weīll see something tommorw...I have even that weird feeling that we have to wait a bit longer than one week till we see the female...) but I hope weīll get another character trailer soon... thatīd be something worth waiting for, finally seeing Yoshitsugu in action...next to Mago/Nana of course :ph43r:
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Maybe the silhouette's a rather effeminate man after all? Basara team notices that KOEI's doing Hokuto and decides to have new character as an answer to Juda.

Of course I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

Hopefully if Basara 3 drums enough interest we'll see Kobayashi have a look again at the possibility of Basara X2, the first one had some potential but got let down somewhat, being utterly broken might have had something to do with it. :whistle:

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Hopefully if Basara 3 drums enough interest we'll see Kobayashi have a look again at the possibility of Basara X2, the first one had some potential but got let down somewhat, being utterly broken might have had something to do with it. :whistle:

SBX's main faults lied more with the fact that it seemed the production schedule just fell apart after awhile. The weren't enough loketests to really help with the game being more balanced, and then the game just kept getting delayed and delayed. Eventually, it seems likely that ASW just couldn't care any more, and Capcom followed suit (or just pulled the plug on funding).

If a new game is to come out (which would be to the delight of the winner of some Tatsu vs Cap tourney in Japan), they would really need to do the damn thing this time.

Frankly, I say, if they want to make another Fighter, then by all means, go ahead. But I would feel free to ditch ASW, and maybe hit up either Dimps (SF4) or 8ing (TvC) to help with the production of such a game.

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I also read somewhere that the testing didn't go really well. Guess who attended the beta testing:

Yaoi fangirls.

They only play they paired bishies. Poor Oichi and the non-bishies (Hideyoshi, Hondam, Nobunaga) got left in the dust.
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regarding the gameplay do you guys think that they'll bring back old skool "prime" i've noticed the prime system in devil kings really made the gameplay more exciting (yukimura's kicks and masamune's lightning strikes) really added the "mixup" but with sengoku basaras prime it only gave a small window of opportunity....

I think they should put it back!!! ^_^
Edited by ~in3vitableTIMING~, Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:25 pm.
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regarding the gameplay do you guys think that they'll bring back old skool "prime" i've noticed the prime system in devil kings really made the gameplay more exciting (yukimura's kicks and masamune's lightning strikes) really added the "mixup" but with sengoku basaras prime it only gave a small window of opportunity....

I think they should put it back!!! ^_^
I personally hope they stick with the SB2:H system if they include priming. I hated DK and the way they did the priming system was probably my number one problem with the game. The only thing good about DK was the fact that enemy AI seemed to be more aggressive. I thought some of the priming attacks looked really good but I never used them because I was too annoyed by the no damage issue. IMO it makes no sense to pull off a nice looking combo that sends everyone flying but doesn't hurt them at all.
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~in3vitableTIMING~
Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:24 pm
regarding the gameplay do you guys think that they'll bring back old skool "prime" i've noticed the prime system in devil kings really made the gameplay more exciting (yukimura's kicks and masamune's lightning strikes) really added the "mixup" but with sengoku basaras prime it only gave a small window of opportunity....

I think they should put it back!!! ^_^
I personally hope they stick with the SB2:H system if they include priming. I hated DK and the way they did the priming system was probably my number one problem with the game. The only thing good about DK was the fact that enemy AI seemed to be more aggressive. I thought some of the priming attacks looked really good but I never used them because I was too annoyed by the no damage issue. IMO it makes no sense to pull off a nice looking combo that sends everyone flying but doesn't hurt them at all.
Dame i forgot the prime attacks did no damage :XD

I ment put the "prime" back or the movest so after a while it doesn't make it so repetetive it was really cool being able to switch between [kick,spear,spear,kick,kick,kick,spear] it came across alot more cleaner after all the west isn't fond of the repetetiveness (well England anyway) that going to be one of the games main problems.
Edited by ~in3vitableTIMING~, Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:48 pm.
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still no word on oichi.... :( :( :( :(
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I'd like if they add those attacks in for their skills. Similar to Nobunaga's skill it would give them a second string they could use.
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