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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,267 Views)
Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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Bringing back Ranmaru as a new personality, slaving around Itsuki...wouldn't it be the same as creating an original character? I hate Ranmaru with a passion, and hope he never comes back in any shape or form, so why use him when Itsuki could very well be related to someone else...?

Anyway, without Nobunaga and Mitsuhide his personality and story would lose much, IMHO.

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Goth loli Gracia would be...I don't know, kinda meh? I don't see much appeal in that fashion, honestly...making her an adolescent is alright, but I'd love her to wear clothes like these.


Yeah, I know, LOL Digimon. I just always liked this design.


The day after tomorrow, if we're lucky, we're gonna be squealing about the new chick and Keiji's new (probably) direction as a character!

Anyway, spoiler or not, I'm gonna buy Famitsu on thursday at 3-4 AM (Japan time). So the HQ scans will be coming by then. If someone doesn't precede me, of course...
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:12 am
Bringing back Ranmaru as a new personality, slaving around Itsuki...wouldn't it be the same as creating an original character?

Similar could be said for SB3 Ieyasu. I mean, look at him. He's got a completely new fighting style, move set, attitude and design. Those not in the know might as well accept him as a brand new character, completely unrelated to "Takechiyo" from the first 2.75 games. :hehe:

In short, Ieyasu got quite the radical update between this game and the last, and for what we know thus far, it's certainly been for the better. I merely ask, why not give similar characters the benefit of the doubt of what could come through similar "evolutions"?

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I hate Ranmaru with a passion, and hope he never comes back in any shape or form, so why use him when Itsuki could very well be related to someone else...?


I didn't care but so much for SB1-2 Ieyasu either, but I saw potential for him to develop as the one who should be the "Third Unifier" some day. And well, again, now look at him. He's not the "brat" he used to be.

And maybe I'm in the minority, but I always had a soft spot for Maru. Taking him in a new, not necessarily canonical direction could only be for his own good as a character. And hey, he and Itsuki, an original character for the series, already have a connection. Why not just go more into what's already there?

All that dialogue they had together throughout the series, and all the other types of "shipping" they've had together, has to point to what could be a possible outcome for what they had in mind for Maru and Itsuki.

When the "work" is already done, and established over the 2.75 games, why not just use it? Make it as "easy" as possible, I say.

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Anyway, without Nobunaga and Mitsuhide his personality and story would lose much, IMHO.


For "Ranmaru", that may very well be the case. But for a "new" version of the character, where Itsuki is his main (or perhaps only) link? They could stand to do whatever they wish, storyline and character-wise.

Maybe after all that he did in his "immature" years, he's just content to live a simple life with Itsuki and help protect her and the villagers in the North. Itsuki standing to be a much more "positive" influence on his life, may stand to be one way to redeem the former "Devil Child", who at one time in his early life, followed Nobunaga like a little puppy.

In other words, if Itsuki is the "Athena Asamiya" of BASARA, "Maru 2.0" could be her "Kensou". Maybe I'm the only one that sees such potential, but I digress. :hehe:



But enough of that. Indeed, we shall have what should stand to be the first of hopefully many updates in a few days. That's reason to celebrate!

More than anything, beyond the new gunslinger girl, I REALLY could go for a Release Date window. Give me an idea of when I should expect this game to touch down in Japan next year...and more importantly, something to make it so I can put my pre-order down at Play Asia before my last coupon expires! :hehe:
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I would be so ecstatic if they added Gracia into it! LOL she would be pure opposite of her father and in the game she could try and talk since into him. It would be a dream come true since she was cut from SW3.
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Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:33 am
I would be so ecstatic if they added Gracia into it! LOL she would be pure opposite of her father and in the game she could try and talk since into him. It would be a dream come true since she was cut from SW3.
Well Mitsuhide is dead in this game so that option is out. But if they add Hosokawa Tadaoki in, it would make her story a lot better.
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Heavenly Snow
Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:33 am
I would be so ecstatic if they added Gracia into it! LOL she would be pure opposite of her father and in the game she could try and talk since into him. It would be a dream come true since she was cut from SW3.
What, and have the hardcore SW fans claim Capcom stole Gracia from SW? If she did pop up, I'd actually like to see her act a little more like her father. Mitsuhide was pretty wicked, from what I've read.

"Convert to Christianity... OR I WILL EAT YOUR SOULS!"

That'd be badass.
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Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:42 am
Heavenly Snow
Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:33 am
I would be so ecstatic if they added Gracia into it! LOL she would be pure opposite of her father and in the game she could try and talk since into him. It would be a dream come true since she was cut from SW3.
Well Mitsuhide is dead in this game so that option is out. But if they add Hosokawa Tadaoki in, it would make her story a lot better.
Mitsuhide dies in every game, like Nobunaga dies in every SW game, but he still comes back in the next installment, like Mitsuhide will come back again in this next installment. Gracia could very well be in it.

And Mitsuhide is depicted as being demented and sadistic in SB, so I think he and Gracia would be EXACT opposites! It would add for a greats story too!
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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I think Master of Musou meant that in this installment Mitsuhide (as well as all (?) Oda-related chars like Nagamasa and Yoshimoto) is gone for good.

But I hope that Gracia will appear though. Looking at her father, she has potential to be an interesting character. She could have connections with Mitsunari, and anyway except insane Oichi we don't have any evil females in the game...

What are they gonna do with the religion thing though? I bet they'll ignore it entirely...(and maybe make her a new member of the Zabii cult?) Hosokawa Allelujah? XD
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:35 am
What are they gonna do with the religion thing though? I bet they'll ignore it entirely...(and maybe make her a new member of the Zabii cult?) Hosokawa Allelujah? XD
Hey, if Xavi, for whatever reason, gets the axe, then I could really imagine her taking over the cult in his stead.

It'd be almost like MAD TV all over again...

"With Jesus and unholy demon power on my side, how could I lose?" :hehe:

Only thing? Well, technically, Gracia is already her "converted" name. She wouldn't need something like "Allelujah" to make even more "festive". :D
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They can't axe Zabii...along with Matsunaga, he's one of the best character concepts they came up with, IMO...they can't eliminate the best comedy goldmine they have...

Besides he'd work well with Gracia, wouldn't he? I'd imagine her as totally merciless against anyone, but melting like butter before him....
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:12 am
The day after tomorrow, if we're lucky, we're gonna be squealing about the new chick and Keiji's new (probably) direction as a character!

Anyway, spoiler or not, I'm gonna buy Famitsu on thursday at 3-4 AM (Japan time). So the HQ scans will be coming by then. If someone doesn't precede me, of course...
Not to mention the two returning characters we'll probably see. Again, I'm gunna bet we'll have Kojurou and Sasuke officially announced, but theres always that chance we'll get someone else... Speaking about Sasuke and Kojurou, I wonder if thier personality's have changed at all, seeing how thier lords slightly have (both being pretty down in the dumps), it'd also be interesting seeing how Kojurou would react with Yoshiaki (when hes confirmed).

Anyway, about Gracia, I could definitely see her in sporting a giant scythe or maybe even a whip. Kobayashi promised more females after all. From a design perspective, I admit that the gothic loli style is kinda obvious, especially seeing as though Mitsuhide was her father, but think what Tsuchi could do with it. Masamune's design is clearly based off a stereotypical samurai, but Tsuchi made it so bad ass. Or perhaps she'll go for the whole "good girl" routine, being christian and all, and sport angelic like robes and such, the total opposite of her father (which is kinda cliché, but again, think what Tsuchi can do with it :hehe: )

We're pretty close to the Famitsu spoilers now. Like HNB, I think it'd be great to see an official release date. They must be pretty far along with development now... they must have some sort of idea. Oh, and cheers for getting the Famitsu when its out NDY, we might get a crappy scan from the spoilers after all and we'll need a HQ version pronto. Well, heres hoping for the silhouette to show something supporting 'his' inclusion.
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BTW, when did we get the character trailer?

It was at the TGS right? :huh:

Cause I really hope we´ll get a character trailer for the four "old revealed characters" this week...I just can´t wait to hear Tadakatsu showing off his moves and telling us about his reasons to fight and his story :sly:
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True, I hope they add it too...we need info badly, especially about Motochika and Yoshitsugu (IMHO). I guess the next site update will be Mitsunari's video?
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i made sound stupid or sumit but did some1 say nobunaga and mitsuhide have been cut
and dumb question number 2 is the game coming out in europe or just japan and NA
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Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:49 pm
i made sound stupid or sumit but did some1 say nobunaga and mitsuhide have been cut
and dumb question number 2 is the game coming out in europe or just japan and NA
Don't know why you skipped this topic.
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I just re-watched the Sengoku BASARA anime (don´t know why, just felt like it :P )

And I really have to say, even though I´m still angry about how some characters are treated in the anime...I can´t deny that I really like some scenes of the anime.

I mean episode 5 and 6 are damn epic. Especially when Masamune gets pissed off and walks towards Mitsuhide...

I really hope they bring that much emotion into the SB3 story. I mean we know what the voice actors are capable off and Seki´s "WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" screams in the SB3 trailer are allready promising. ^_^

Yosh, now I´m pumped up for some SB news. Let it flow, Mr. K, I´m ready for the SB week :ph43r:
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I would really want a useless type character to appear in this, like to replace Yoshimoto Imagawa. Maybe they'll throw in Terumoto Mori :hehe: ?

Everybody still believe Matsu will be getting her appearance again?
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Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:00 pm
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Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:49 pm
i made sound stupid or sumit but did some1 say nobunaga and mitsuhide have been cut
and dumb question number 2 is the game coming out in europe or just japan and NA
Don't know why you skipped this topic.
Honestly i swear that wasnt there earlier lol, will the characters have their stupid Devil Kings names or will they have their proper names like Kenshin Uesugi not Frost
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^ i was wondering this too. Well the name is SB: Samurai Heroes so i will assume it will have their original names.
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eklineage
Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:43 pm
^ i was wondering this too. Well the name is SB: Samurai Heroes so i will assume it will have their original names.
Exactly. Hope that helps.
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eklineage
Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:43 pm
^ i was wondering this too. Well the name is SB: Samurai Heroes so i will assume it will have their original names.
Well, Kobayashi said the only diference between the two games will be the language. ;)
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Do we know if the game will be dual audio?
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Not much is known about the game. All known information is at the info thread.
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One more day.
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eklineage
Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:51 pm
One more day.
Aint that a spam :unsure: . Hmm, I wonder, this character will probably be Ginchiyo ;) . I'm curious if they will show any of the old lot, maybe Matsu :sad: (happy tears).
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Again, I'd like to think that, now with Sengoku Musou 3 out of the way (it's being released this week), now the information floodgates for SB3 will be opening.

If this game is indeed going to be released within the March/April '10 window (keeping true to the fiscal reports that alluded to such, well, the hype train has got to be put into gear...now.

Famitsu is probably biting at the bit for its next big scoop, after all. And BASARA 3 sounds like a good thing to hype up during the holiday season, up to its release in early spring.
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