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Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi!
Topic Started: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:46 pm (399,263 Views)
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 7:39 pm
The new guy
I agree with Crimsondramon, Edward The Black Prince, and ~in3vitableTIMING~ ball-and-chain guy is probably Sakon Shima. Maybe the idea of SW Sakon having a heavy cleaver is influencing my intuition, but Ishida needs a strong enforcer. Though, since this is BASARA, I wouldn't be surprised if was a giant pocket-watch or something.

:hehe: Almost looks like SW3's Masanori Fukushima with that hair shape and wide shoulders....

Magoichi Saika... the Woman
@~in3vitableTIMING~ - wasn't that Onimusha 2 with Magoichi?

Anyway, the gender swap is fine with me seeing how "Magoichi" is just a title for leader of the Saika clan. Bring on a female Kotaro Fuma while you're at it, Capcom.

So many guns... Date can get away with holding six swords (he'll get arthritis by his mid-thirties for it), but can Mago use so many guns?

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Add my thanks to HokutoNoBen, Nine Demons Yoshitaka, and BlackKite for the scans.
Double thanks to Nine Demons Yoshitaka and BlackKite for the much appreciated translations too.

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Speaking of translations, the many mentions of dead Hideyoshi means he's not going to be in, yes? A shift in focus to later era?

I can't wait to see the SB Ginchiyo Tachibana... :wub:
lol I wasn't talking about Mago I was talking about Sakon I liked the way Onimusha protrayed him and that he was overly loyaly and followed Mitsunari

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the new silhouette really caught me off guard if it ends up to be sakon

But Mago wielding six guns wasn't what I had in mind I was thinking she'd use her guns not Simultaneously but one after the other maybe throw in a few kicks

Edit: but if i'm being REALLY HONEST I mean dead honest, I think capcom could have done better with Mago, I don't want to sound ungreatful but her design is a tiny bit off, if where thinking about Magoichi and making him into a female I would of added more dark green or given her some sort of equipment (even if it wasn't useable) and givin her BOOTS not sandals the final design is ok I don't hate it or anything i'm just a little bit dissapointed.

Dame it still burns... KASUGA! why her of all characters.... :( BAKANA!
Edited by ~in3vitableTIMING~, Tue Dec 1, 2009 9:26 pm.
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MAAAAAAAGOOOOOOO XD

I like how they made him into a her. Her design looks like, really awesome. I hope they portray her personality good.

I wanna see a SB Gracia Hosokawa. :D

On a side note: Kasuga a NPC?! D: Well that sucks. I HOPE they don't make Matsu a NPC or Nouhime.
Edited by Gracia_Tama, Tue Dec 1, 2009 10:19 pm.
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 4:44 pm
Pretty pissed off. How do you make a previous playable character into an npc? Ridiculous.
This x 10.

I could care less about Kasuga, but Kenshin? Meh on the update, and I've been waiting so long for it too...

Even worse is that now that Kobayashi has shown Kenshin and Kasuga, it brings up the fact that other characters could also be turned NPC.

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I'd laugh if Matsu was in, but NPC :sad: .

I'd honestly just lol at it and probably post some "u mad" pic. :rolleyes:

I just hope that Hisahide isn't still an NPC. I could see Devilsking's anger. :XD



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Tue Dec 1, 2009 10:18 pm
MAAAAAAAGOOOOOOO XD

I like how they made him into a her. Her design looks like, really awesome. I hope they portray her personality good.

I wanna see a SB Gracia Hosokawa. :D

On a side note: Kasuga a NPC?! D: Well that sucks. I HOPE they don't make Matsu a NPC or Nouhime.
Nouhime is cut along with the rest of the Oda, no word on Ichi though. Mitsuhide is also cut, as is Yoshimoto and Nagamasa.

I'm still peeved about Kenshim, if more characters are going from playable status to NPC status, then i think they should be added in as DLC soon after its release, or imma shoot Kobayashi! :hmmm: SO i'm guessing Shingen will ne a NPC also, and appear in maybe one battle, probably Sekigahara, which is better than him being cut completely, but it still pisses me off.

Why couldn't they just make them playable, but in free mode only, just have no stories? That would be SO much better, it just makes no sense why they didn't do that, they could even just copy and paste their move sets over from the last game and add in some extra unfs to the move sets.

Witha all these damn cuts and NPC statuses it makes me wonder if there will even be more characters than the last game, im' starting to thik not unless Kobayashi wants to add 15 new characters. And we are never ging to find out about this for another 3 months or so because Kobayashi is being a jack*ss.

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Tue Dec 1, 2009 10:35 pm
I'm still peeved about Kenshim, if more characters are going from playable status to NPC status, then i think they should be added in as DLC soon after its release, or imma shoot Kobayashi! :hmmm:
In all my complaining, I had completely forgot about DLC. I hope they make use of it and don't make us pay for it.

If more have to become NPC's, I'd say Zabii, Itsuki, and Matsu. I'd say those would be the best choices if they have to. Just make Hisahide playable.

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Tue Dec 1, 2009 10:43 pm
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 10:35 pm
I'm still peeved about Kenshim, if more characters are going from playable status to NPC status, then i think they should be added in as DLC soon after its release, or imma shoot Kobayashi! :hmmm:
In all my complaining, I had completely forgot about DLC. I hope they make use of it and don't make us pay for it.

If more have to become NPC's, I'd say Zabii, Itsuki, and Matsu. I'd say those would be the best choices if they have to. Just make Hisahide playable.

Well, IMO i think thats the idea, make the fan favourites NPC and make them pay extra for it later, and the really sad thing is that i would actually probably pay for the DLC.

I have the gut feeling that Hisahide is either cut completely or NPC, and when i think of that reality, i feel kinda nauseous which is really weird. But Hisahide has to be in eventualy right?
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 10:43 pm
If more have to become NPC's, I'd say Zabii, Itsuki, and Matsu. I'd say those would be the best choices if they have to.

That would be gut meltingly painful :sad: . Seeing her in-game, in front of my face, her, right there, but not on a character select screen, It would be a few nights of a wet soggy pillow from my tears :sad: .

Although, I have a sneaky feeling there's gonna be a catch. I have a lil thing inside of me saying she's playable, I mean, they have to carry through at least one girl right ^_^ . The catch will be that Toshiie is NPC though, therefore just having the wife (although that wouldn't bother me either).
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Kenshin as a NPC.....OUCH! l never imagined that one of the Uesugi's powerful leaders will be downgraded to a NPC. But O well, what are you going to do? :/

Female Magoichi looks hot. The guns she wield make me even fall in love with her even more. :wub:

So the JP release date is in March while the NA release date is in the Summer? That's cool. :cool:
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ALRIGHT! Lady Mago is HOT FIRE! I approve of this character design already! :D

Sorry that it wasn't "her" BK. But then again, it's not over until it's over, right? ^_^;

Interesting that KG is now truly rolling deep with the Uesugi. Did he and the "lovebirds" have a falling out, or were there other reasons that caused him to move on? In any case, now it's pretty much a definite that, by default, KG and the lovebirds will be on differing sides of the war. Almost makes me sad...

But not nearly as sad as the other things that this scan has brought to life. KG's description looks like it will be the final nail in the coffin for my main, Hideyoshi, it looks like. Gyat dammit.

Kenshin and Kasuga are back...! ....but as NPCs...?! What?! What the hell? This is going to make Sasuke pretty weird (assuming HE's playable, at least!), because now one of his designated "pairs" is no longer playable. Sure, it won't stop them from probably fighting each other and possibly helping each other out once in a while...but still. :unsure: ...Gyat dammit.

Dagnabbit, Koba! You're "DMC4-ing" this game, too! I still want to believe, but you're forcing me to drink a whole lot of vinegar to go with the nice bits of nectar! -_-


Ah well, game not coming til May at the earliest means I'll have plenty of time to spend with Hokuto Musou. Maybe Trinity too, if Koei EVER gets to releasing that game...
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To be honest, I wouldn't even mind if we had to pay for DLC. BASARA is one of my favourite game series and I have no problem paying extra to get the full experience. Still, I reckon the game should have everything when its released. What is it with Hack n Slash games on Next Gen consoles not giving us all the content. I'm hoping against hope this game isn't another pathetic attemp like DW6, but judging by the videos, no matter how many characters we'll get, the game still looks like a blast to play.

Anyway, why is there so many people thinking Sakon is the silhouette? Is it because of his bulkish appearance in SM?
Remember, this is BASARA. We can see the differences between the shared characters of the games. Hell, the recently revealed Magoichi proves my point. I'm seriously hoping its Kanetsugu. Not just because I desperately want him in and really dig the weapon the silhouette is sporting, but I think a character as 'heavy' as the silhouette would be a interesting spin on Kanetsugu.

Well, heres looking foward to the HQ scans. I wanna know what sort of connection Motochika has with Magoichi...
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:13 pm
Kenshin as a NPC.....OUCH! l never imagined that one of the Uesugi's powerful leaders will be downgraded to a NPC. But O well, what are you going to do? :/

Female Magoichi looks hot. The guns she wield make me even fall in love with her even more. :wub:

So the JP release date is in March while the NA release date is in the Summer? That's cool. :cool:
Nossir! JAP release summer, June-ish, ENG release: this time next year.....T_T (sigh, another year till i get my hands n this gmae, I WANT TO IMPORT DX )

ANd about MAgo, why are poeple saying she has blonde hair? It really looks red to me. I want to know if i'm the only one who sees the red, to make sure i'm not just going blind.

Still, i love the red hot design, she is going to be a blast.

@BDS: If either of those two will be a NPC it will probably be Matsu, why would they want to displease their Yaoi fangirls?


@Manta Punk:" Personally, i think its Muneshige.
Edited by Claus, Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:21 pm.
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:20 pm
@BDS: If either of those two will be a NPC it will probably be Matsu, why would they want to displease their Yaoi fangirls?
What do you mean. Girls fancy her :unsure: ?
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Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:20 pm
@Manta Punk:" Personally, i think its Muneshige.
oh snap!!!!!! :hehe:

Bingo!! throwing Sakon out of the window now :lol: , its not capcoms style to give sakon that kinda look it doesn't look defensive enough :/ but now you've said Muneshige... thats seems like even more of a possibility and yoshihiro is there to back him up, i'm still far from guessin its kanetsugu only because of how he has to fit in physically not just with the Uesugi's exsiting team members but yukimura :cool:
Edited by ~in3vitableTIMING~, Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:49 pm.
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@BDS: If either of those two will be a NPC it will probably be Matsu, why would they want to displease their Yaoi fangirls?
What do you mean. Girls fancy her :unsure: ?
What i mean is that if either Toshi or Matsu will be a NPC, i think it will be Matsu because she isn't a guy, so there isn't any Yaoi possibilities.

@~in3vitableTIMING~: Exactly what i think, it just doesn't scream Sakon to me, because this silhoutte looks really offensive and "IN YO FACE"! I don't quite feel the Kanetsugu vibe either. Plus no heart crested helmet, and i know that would be in his design, it would be empty wihtout it, so my bet is on Muneshige.

DAMN! i need the renders asap :crazy: I want to make a crap load of Mago sets, a farewell sig to Kenshin and Kasuga, and a good'ol Keiji sig.
Edited by Claus, Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:57 pm.
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Predicted, and a load of bull about Kenshin.
**** this *****!
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Predicted, and a load of bull about Kenshin.
**** this *****!
I was waiting for a post from you. :hehe:

It seems funny how many people was so hyped for the update and now they wish it never happened.
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I'M NOW THINKING OF EVEN MORE WAYS TO KILL KOBYASHI NOW.


Ok.
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hoo boy,a new updates and all hell breaks loose.....

what can i comment on?lets see.......
-female mago...seen that coming from miles ago>.<,never thought she will be masamune but with six guns instead>.<,the character design reminds me of that chaos legion chick,which was also capcom's doing IIRC

-kenshin as NPC.....great! more reason NOT to include a playable matsunaga for kobayashi,

if someone as important(and pretty much an SB "regular" which appeared in ALL SB games) as kenshin got downgraded to an NPC,and the one that did NOT die in SB2&SB2H(hideyoshi&hanbei)died/gone in SB3

considering all games shares the same canon then the chances of matsunaga appearing in >SB3< is now a sure 0% since,again,he blew up big in the PAST,pre SB2 story(of course flashback gaidens in the future games still yields hope for those who got shafted)

still about kenshin being NPC we now have 3 outcomes for kojuuro&sasuke's fate,we all know they're in the game but since it took so damn long to announce them......

1.both will be shafted to NPC's
2.both will be playable
3.one of them will be NPC

lets face it:new console=lots of cuts for the sequel game,looks like even capcom is not immune from this fact......

as for the ball&chain guy,i like the design,slender but wields huge weapon that is NOT a buster sword.....my comments on the predictions?

-sakon? could be,but since he needs to be loyal to mitsunari,becomes his brain and all,i can't see how he fits in with the SB version of mitsunari,which is bent to wage war against all of japan for killing hideyoshi(unlike hanbei,who follows hideyoshi because hideyoshi is Rao~err have a great vision for the perfect japan)

-kanetsugu? again,its possible,but still a bit far fetched,i mean,he's supposed to be a joke character,a built in loser created for the sake of comedic value in SB,if he were playable with a serious plot and ultra awesome moveset then it'll just wreck his already "perfect" image IMO

but hey,they did it to ieyasu,and changed yukimura a bit,so its still possible.....

-muneshige? ah,another kyushu resident is always a nice addition,and the weapon of choice seems to rival fellow native chesto shimazu,so i presume the SB kyushu folks like uber huge weapons no matter what size they're body is....

-kiyomasa? a last minute spark in my head,the costume is perfect for hosting that tiger skin of his............and that he's also important in sekigahara>.<
Edited by wodash, Wed Dec 2, 2009 1:01 am.
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Mukatsuku...

On the other hand, I'm almost besides myself all giggly about Maggie, especially how she apparently is Suzuki Shigetomo who is the child of Suzuki Shigehide, who is the Magoichi that SW uses. Boy, I could think up some funny and/or badass fanart right there.

Also, here's my left-field guesses for chained ball man: Todo Takatora, Satake Yoshishige, Akashi Teruzumi, or Konishi Yukinaga.

With Kobayashi's unpredictability, we can't bank on the silhouettes being related to anyone already revealed anymore.
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kobayashi has his head too far up where the light don't shine. Honestly, putting K&K as npcs is just mocking us. "haha you can't play us... look at our godly movesets!"

As for dlc... it's just so much better when all the stuff are on disc. Are they trying to surpass Namco in terms of stupidity? Really, I thought it couldn't get worse than releasing Tales of the Abyss just when Final Fantasy 12 is about to come out.
Edited by eklineage, Wed Dec 2, 2009 1:34 am.
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Well we've seen female Magoichi since Vasara 3, so it's kinda expected.

But... yeah, the next silhouette is going to be hard to guess...
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It is definately NOT Sakon or Kanetsugu me thinks. Erm, no idea, I aint too knowledgeable 'bout Sengoku soooo (if only this was ROTK :hehe: ).

I'm assuming the character is young, quite light and unbelievable in strength (male Itsuki type) and may not be somebody expected :wacko: .
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My guess is Mogami Yoshiaki (probably wishful thinking) but I've always pictured him being this badass warlord in the far north, and what weapon screams "don't **** with me!" more than a oversized ball & chain? :D

Anyway Mago looks awesome, she reminds me a lot of Lightning though, which I would say is a good thing. Hopefully her S string is more fun that Nouhime's was....

But come on Kasuga AND Kenshin as NPCS? Let's just reduce the clan which started it all (Sekigahara) to a bunch of NPC wannabes. :rolleyes: And I'm not liking Kanetsugu's chances at all right now. I've got this sneaking suspicion Kobayashi has taken the lazy option and chosen Keiji as the main Uesugi character...
So now what happens to Toshiie? Matsu? Kojuro? Sasuke? Ujimasa? Kotaro? Hisahide? :/
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Again...I just can't help but be quite "blown". :hehe:

I mean, Koba's design philosophies escape at the moment. He ran this same game in DMC4, and now it looks like he's doing a similar thing over here.

People were expecting DMC4 to mean more Dante....possibly more Vergil too, after coming from DMC3, which was an awesome entrant. Then we found out that the simp, Nero was the main star of the show. ...eheh. <_<

But hey! Dante is still going to play a big part! And oooh! Look at Trish and Lady! They're here too! They gotta be playable characters too...right....? RIGHT...!? :blink:

Oh, and for those of you who liked Vergil and his distinct playstyle? Yeah, you get nothing either! "Zannen~!"

And this is all put on the table BEFORE you talk about DMC4's other problems, mainly in the form of poor gameplay design and etc. :sick:


And now, here we are with SB3. Already, we're dealing with guaranteed "cut outright" content. Then we get other established personalities turned into NPCs.

In a series that's so reliant on fan service, why is Koba allowing for things that deliberately do more to piss fans off? It's like some sort of "Reverse Smash Dojo" effect, where in, now we're starting to get to the point of dreading info dumps! :hehe:


At this point...I dunno. I'm still pumped for the game, decently. But I can only take so much, before my old fears of "this ain't BASARA no mo'!" may start to be realized.
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I'm not looking forward for any more info batches atm. Maybe they'll make sasuke as a npc. Bu bu but, they promised lots of new characters!!! Kobayashi is a d**k. It's that simple.

But who knows... maybe we'll get to play as enemy generals in this game.
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