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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| Keneticam | Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:17 am Post #2001 |
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Right.......
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WTF!? ARE u serious? The entire Oda army is cut? My precious Nouhime....is gone? This is crazy. Wat are they doing to the game this time around? Are they focusing on a different part in time where the Oda army isn't there? I also LOVE female Mago! She replaces Nouhime for me. I really hope Gracia makes it in! I'm sure SB Gracia would be AWSOME! |
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| Claus | Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:21 am Post #2002 |
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old hag
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Yeah, the battle of Sekigahara. Tehcnically they aren't cut, since they died last game, they just aren't coming back. No, but seriously, this is just becoming a giant load of bull crap. I' gonna buy it, but i am not happy with the 'marketing' desicions Kobayashi is making. It seem like he got a kid to pick out characters said kid did not like, to be cut. |
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| eklineage | Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:23 am Post #2003 |
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God of the Valkyrur
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Not a kid. A yaoi fangirl. Why do you think Kenshin and Kasuga were made into npcs? |
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| Keneticam | Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:26 am Post #2004 |
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I see....so instead of the basis being Honnoji its Sekigahara? So the Oda is gone along with Yoshimoto, and Nagamasa. However I remember reading that there are gonna be alot of new characcters. So lets hope for the best. I'm actually excited to see what new characters are gonna be added. I'm thinking the ball and chain dude is Sakon! It just fits him in my eyes. Edit: Hey! that makes Mago the first female character revealed to be playable right? Theres gonna be alot of new female characters added right? Edited by Keneticam, Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:40 am.
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| DoctorVancouver | Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:50 am Post #2005 |
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Time Lord
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I'm liking Maggie, the multi guns on the leg look promising. Not devastated about the news of Kenshin and Kasuga, but then again I've never played a true BASARA game. Also glad to see Yoshihiro coming back. @Xanxus: glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of Muneshige when I saw the silhouette. |
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| eklineage | Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:52 am Post #2006 |
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I hope so. I don't like this sausage fest roster so far.
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| PhineBuyM3 | Wed Dec 2, 2009 5:04 am Post #2007 |
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Han's Unifier
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WTF? why is Magoichi Saika being portrayed as a female, I have no problem with female characters in general but Magoichi was a man; this really grinds my gears. |
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| eklineage | Wed Dec 2, 2009 5:18 am Post #2008 |
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I thought it was the head of the clan that earns the title or name of Magoichi Saika. |
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| Claus | Wed Dec 2, 2009 5:18 am Post #2009 |
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Have you ever played basara? That should answer your question itself. But still, Saika Magoichi was the name given to the head of the Saika clan, so this Magoichi is just the daughter of another one, i'm not sure who though, but since she is the head of the clan, her name is MAgoichi. SAme goes for "Katakura Kojuro" and "fuuma Kotaro".
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| Yedo | Wed Dec 2, 2009 5:36 am Post #2010 |
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Words Words Words ghghg hg hgh
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Saika is pretty neat. I just hope she plays differently from Nouhime. While Noh's style is fun at first...it gets boring and more boring the more you play as her. |
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| DarkDante | Wed Dec 2, 2009 7:45 am Post #2011 |
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A new power is rising
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Well guys we got to think positive, maybe with the fact that only 2 PCs were revealed (Mago and KG) this week, means the next update might be sooner than we thought? I mean I can't imagine Kenshin and Kasuga will appear on the main site, and have entire weeks dedicated to them would be incredibly lame... Also I'm praying the new silhouette is a Tokugawa retainer or at least at Eastern army character, enough with the West already! Anyway the next update should be riveting stuff, Shimazu Yoshihiro? Even Itsuki and Zabii have their cult followings... but Yoshihiro?
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| eklineage | Wed Dec 2, 2009 8:00 am Post #2012 |
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God of the Valkyrur
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Kobayashi screwed the fans over with this update. But I rather not speak of it anymore. To make you want to play with Kenshin even more... he also has the title of Godspeed Holy General. But we have Mitsunari so it's not a total loss. Now for Kasuga... Kuzu... Edited by eklineage, Wed Dec 2, 2009 8:01 am.
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| BlackKite | Wed Dec 2, 2009 9:16 am Post #2013 |
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長宗我部菜々
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Hmm, now that I'm trying to see the bigger picture, maybe you guys shouldn't solely blame Kobayashi for this. Perhaps this one too gets 'plagued' by Capcom's 'new generation marketing' ploy. Street Fighter 3 and Ace Attorney 4 also got this kind of treatment after all. Then, if the fanbase still has a considerable amount and the demand is still high, Kobayashi will pull out a SF4 for SB4, bringing every characters there playable. Anyway, enough with the negativity, even I should reduce it within myself as well. Even though full scans haven't appeared yet, I pretty much get the explanation of the stars thing near enemy general's lifebar. It does indicate enemy strength level, and it is determined by the number of bases the enemy holds. So the more bases you capture, they will get weaker. Then again in Ieyasu's video, Sasuke's 4 stars do indeed seem to come from the 4 areas that are still red. |
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| necrosis | Wed Dec 2, 2009 9:27 am Post #2014 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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Betting Kenshin is day 1 DLC like RE5 VS mode. Whores. |
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| Lord Rizal | Wed Dec 2, 2009 9:44 am Post #2015 |
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Mastery over mind and body.
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Maggie looks pretty sweet. Gotta love a girl with some firepower Am I the only one excited about Yoshihiro? He's always been among my top 5 favorites in both SW and SB. Im not too thrilled about the NPC Kenshin and Kasuga move...makes me think they'll pull the same on Toshiie and Matsu. But so long as they make up for it with exciting new characters (which they are so far) then I'll be fine with it. As for this new guy...I cant see him as Sakon, Mogami, or Kanetsugu. Just doesn't fit their style. I know SB tends to throw tradition out the window, but this just isnt one of those three, cant be. My guess is Masanori Fukushima, Naomasa Ii, Kiyomasa Kato, or Ujisato Gamo. Its definitely a no holds barred type of warrior...not a refined one like Sakon or Kanetsugu. I'd also like to bring up two ideas I had... First, I was thinking about Mitsuhide and Oichi. Kobayashi did state that he had something interesting planned for Oichi (iow, she's in the game still), so I was wondering if they could pull a Tenkai and keep Mitsuhide in. It would be a fitting story, no? After all this time, the psychotic reaper has been hidden away, licking his wounds, and savouring the oncoming chaos...Just sounds perfect to me. Also, I just had a nice conceptual idea for Kanetsugu...since he's all about "Love", why not make him a stereotypical Don Juan Ladies' Man? Seems Basara-ish enough? |
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| Hondam | Wed Dec 2, 2009 9:57 am Post #2016 |
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I'd agree with you if not for the fact that Capcom already has given their Kanetsugu an established character- the crazy and reckless Muteki-sama- something which this new guy could fit perfectly, imo. Though that isn't to say I wouldn't mind it being Naomasa or someone else either. |
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| Manta Punk | Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:19 am Post #2017 |
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Agreed. Not to mention the Niigata talk show approaching very soon. If Kanetsugu is in, I couldn't think of a better time to announce him, so what would be the point of giving us a totally unrelated silhouette? Anyway, after sleeping on the news, I realise it wasn't as devastating as I thought it was. Sure, we're now all a bit nervous as to who'll be playable and such, but after playing as Kenshin and Kasuga for the past 3-4 games, the hype of the new characters is weighing out my doubts as to who'll be cut. The only I would've had a problem with is Nagamasa, only getting to play him in one "proper" BASARA game, but with this game focused upon Sekigahara, I can understand. Also, Matsunaga. After re-watching the Anime, the sick bastard is too awesome. He needs to playable sometime ![]() If we do get a gracious amount of new characters to make up for cuts and NPCs, I'll be happy. We've had our turn playing with past characters such as Kenshin so, again, if its to make room for the new comers... so be it. I know it would've been nice to finally play as some of the characters in Hi-Def, with a new skill set, but as Koba promised, they'll return in future installments. Remember, this is BASARA's first try on "Next Gen" (even though its technically Current Gen) and they have to get used to it. I agree its a pretty baby-ish excuse, but I can see why if its true. If this game truly is the first stepping stone before they can become totally diverse in "Next Gen" technology, I say go for it. All the more reason to look foward to the inevitable Heroes expansion pack. And I'll no doubt be supporting this game wether its a pile of crap or the best thing since sliced bread. |
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| Lord Rizal | Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:20 am Post #2018 |
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Mastery over mind and body.
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Eh, I keep hoping they just do away with that version of Kanetsugu. Its just not very tasteful or flashy. I imagine him more suave and tactical, propably using something like a rapier-stilleto set, longsword and shield, or maybe a machine gun guitar (just for laughs ).
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| yashgupta_21 | Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:22 am Post #2019 |
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Sergeant
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Are they taking up that part of the history, where Oda was dead, and the job of unifying Japan was taken up by Tokugawa Ieyasu? This might as well be the final game then. Do we have Toyotomi Hideyoshi as of yet? Edited by yashgupta_21, Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:25 am.
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| DarkDante | Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:09 am Post #2020 |
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A new power is rising
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I don't think it's Kanetsugu, he would never be shown minus his signature love crest helm, given it's appeared both as an equippable item in past games and he was shown wearing it in the anime. Besides it would of made much more sense to show him (if it was him) in this update than Mago, given the appearance of Kenshin and Kasuga... li Naomasa? Possibly but he also has a pretty distincive helm of his own and he is typically shown to be heavily armoured in that crimson armour of his... this mystery silhouette looks to be wearing more clothing than bulky armour. I still think it's Yoshiaki or at the very least an Eastern affiliated character and here's why: 1) If you remember the very first silhouettes shown were that of Ieyasu and Mitsunari, after that we got Hondam and Yoshitsugu and now Mago and Keiji. Obviously we don't know Mago's alliegances but besides that the pattern is East vs West. Now Shimazu Yoshihiro is undeniably in the next update and he's as "Western" army as they come... 2) The lack of Eastern Army love so far, East gets a updated Ieyasu while the west gets 2 brand spanking new PCs and looking at the roster now it's in danger of becoming too one sided, the Eastern dudes are bound to show up any time now. West Mitsunari Yoshitsugu Motochika Motonari Yukimura Sasuke Keiji Kenshin? Kasuga? East Ieyasu Hondam Masamune Kojuro (I have no idea where Mago will end up) 3) The design, the character looks rugged and warrior-like. The way the shoulders stick out, what looks to be either torn or fur shoulders/wraps around him, the ball and chain. Whoever this guy is I'm betting he's one tough SOB, perhaps even tough enough to take on a crazy guy like Masamune. So what better a design for a great warlord of the far north and most bitter enemy of the Date clan like Yoshiaki?? Edited by DarkDante, Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:12 am.
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| Lord Rizal | Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:49 am Post #2021 |
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Mastery over mind and body.
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I definitely agree that its got to be an Eastern affiliate. Though I have to ask, what was Naomasa's signature helm? I know he wore red armor and referred to himself as the Red Devil, and that he used the old Takeda standard of Fu Rin Ka Zan, but nothing of a signature helm. Though I am sure he did have one (any dignified samurai noble had to have his own unique, flashy helm :P), I just haven't heard anything special about it. |
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| DarkDante | Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:02 pm Post #2022 |
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It's usually red and has 2 extremly long horns on it: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/jelena_macan/Japan/Hikone/003-Ii_Naomasa.jpg Granted it's not as famous as Kanetsugu's love, Tadakatsu's antlers or Masamune's Cresent Moon helm, it's still something I don't feel he would be included without. After all li is known as much for his striking apperance in full crimson armour as much as his exploits on the battlefied. Edited by DarkDante, Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:12 pm.
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| wodash | Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:23 pm Post #2023 |
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undefeated in all directions
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the deal with SB3 is,its a sequel,when the contents are not as huge and at least on par with its prequels,fans will get MAD this is the same with the whole DW6&DMC4 fiasco,not even the "we're just getting comfortable with the new engine" reason is enough to shut the angry fans up lets compare it to the first gundam musou,probably the most lacking in content in a musou game history but people does not rant much about it,since it was a first of its "kind",then out comes GM2 with buttloads of new contents without much cuts,people was jumping up and down,despite some shortcomings at the end also:it seems SW3 looks better in the marketing area now,what's with no character cuts(IIRC) that new game mode and their own characters,plus several new dudes that's quite pleasing to watch if i have to admit,sure the gameplay WILL pale in comparison with SB3 as far as i am concerned but no one could deny the fact that it does a better transition from SW2XL/WO2 than SB2H/SBBH to SB3(meaning:people wont miss the old game and/or regret selling their SW2 copy to buy SW3,for example) Edited by wodash, Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:47 pm.
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| Manta Punk | Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:43 pm Post #2024 |
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Well, SM's Kanetsugu didn't have the famous helmet in SM2, so not having it doesn't totally rule him out. Besides, perhaps the helmet just didn't fit the over all design of the character. Maybe he has his famous love kanji embedded into the chain ball Heh, sorry for sounding like a fan boy, but I'm reckoning this is Kanetsugu's only chance to appear as a unique character. The Niigata talk show is very near and he has realtions with all the recently revealed characters (again, apart from Mago), so I'm kinda seeing this as his last chance to make it Oh, and Magoichi will probably be supporting the West, having relations with Motochika and all. Still theres always a chance these "relations" won't be on good terms... wodash: Well, I agree people have the right to moan. Especially seeing as this is a sequel and we should have more content than the past games. Still, if its true that Koba and crew are getting comfortable with the technology, I understand. This game probably won't have the financial backing as the likes of SF4 and DMC4 and I reckon it was risk to even put it on PS3, not to mention that there gunna try there luck with a over seas release. Again, even if this game is just the first step to something good, I'll support it in any way I can. The only reason I don't apply this logic to DW6 is because after several attempts at expansion packs and such, the game still hasn't got it right. Anyway, I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves thinking this game is going to suck. True, the future looks foggy, but it ain't over until its over. EDIT: Anyway, I don't wanna go into the whole SM3 vs SB3 debate. It'll only rile people up. Edited by Manta Punk, Wed Dec 2, 2009 1:28 pm.
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| Jonathan Joestar | Wed Dec 2, 2009 1:03 pm Post #2025 |
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Hey, Whats with the bad mood and the complains...we get our news...but nobody like it seems... we think Kesnhin wasn't goin to be in the game...and now he is a NPC...wel it's almost the same...We have to get over some Thinks and look the Good ones And if it get some characters cut..or NPC's..we still Buy the game |
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ARE u serious? The entire Oda army is cut? My precious Nouhime....is gone? This is crazy. Wat are they doing to the game this time around? Are they focusing on a different part in time where the Oda army isn't there?


No, but seriously, this is just becoming a giant load of bull crap. I' gonna buy it, but i am not happy with the 'marketing' desicions Kobayashi is making. It seem like he got a kid to pick out characters said kid did not like, to be cut.




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